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Quote from: Accardo on July 02, 2024, 11:03:12 PM

Yet, taking the mentality off their mind would be very difficult. They already trust the process and will continue doing it for a while. Before something then stroke their mind to have a rethink. All these costs time and, for some, money. Adding to the expenses that would be made in the casino. You'd notice how hard people make it for themselves when it comes to gambling.

It's true, I think that if a person goes to a place where they pay because they are told that they will get good results and if by chance they have some luck and win even if it's little, then I think that person will keep going, the bad thing is that the person spends double, first in the place they go that will take more and more money, and second the money they spend at the casino, and apart from all that it creates a dependency on going to that place where they will take money from them, and that the person becomes a fanatic about those things afterwards, and if a person who is a fortune teller or a witch or something like that is told that they are good for doing those things, well they will be there.

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Quote from: erep on July 01, 2024, 11:07:50 AM

We are obliged to give good advice to help other people control their gambling behavior beyond limits, but we do not need to force everyone to accept our advice because some people ignore our advice because they are already addicted to gambling. However, we have to remind them not to easily believe in superstition in determining bets, because that is just our thinking as if we can win bets without analysis or how to look for opportunities from gambling. Be a wise gambler by determining a budget that you can afford to lose and still look for opportunities to win, even though it is not a guarantee of winning the bet, at least you already know the game pattern in determining the chances of winning.

The best advice you can give to a gambler is to tell them to be a responsible gambler and, if possible, give them ideas and strategies on how to go about their gambling lifestyles so that they may not become addicted. I have discouraged some people from going into gambling because they wanted to take it as a means of earning money, but rather they could handle it as a fun activity. Even if a gambler has had a bad experience with gambling, they should advice their mate to learn from their own mistakes.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 02, 2024, 09:33:37 AM

Personally I don’t think it is our responsibility to try and get someone out of their gambling addiction especially if we don’t really know the person. An advice or two may be good but you do not need to force them nor should you.

Unless they are a family member I think it would be better to intervene, whether they like it or not because most likely your family will be affected as well.

I can assure you that it is our responsibility because there is no one who is addicted to gambling who doesn’t want to quit, whether he is rich or not, because addiction deals with mental stress and you will be disturbed when you are addicted, but you see it as not your responsibility unless he is your family member, which will definitely define you as someone who is so selfless because you want to focus on a good life for your family members but you can’t do it for other people, which defines your selfishness. Furthermore, in history, everyone in the world is a brother, no matter their race or complexion, because we are all children of Adam and Eve, so I will say it is our responsibility to focus on those who are addicted to gambling because they need it.

The key on here is that you shouldnt really be that making yourself that getting addicted because on the moment that you do find yourself getting addicted with gambling then you would really be stormed out by tons of things like having those kind of impulsive emotions which do comes from your delusional decisions and this is something that whats matter with those people who cant think off well already on the things that they are really that having. If you are someone whose really that have good control about finances then you wont really be applying any kind of beliefs that you do read up or something that would be on your mind.
We do know that there are indeed gamblers who would really be coming after about testing out different methods and strategies on which you do believe that it would work.

You should not make yourself that being too desperate on things because on the moment that you do find yourself having those thinking that it would really be that effective
then you would really be keeping yourself pushing for it to work even if its means that you are losing tons of money but cant be able to have such control.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 02, 2024, 09:33:37 AM

Personally I don’t think it is our responsibility to try and get someone out of their gambling addiction especially if we don’t really know the person. An advice or two may be good but you do not need to force them nor should you.

Unless they are a family member I think it would be better to intervene, whether they like it or not because most likely your family will be affected as well.

I can assure you that it is our responsibility because there is no one who is addicted to gambling who doesn’t want to quit, whether he is rich or not, because addiction deals with mental stress and you will be disturbed when you are addicted, but you see it as not your responsibility unless he is your family member, which will definitely define you as someone who is so selfless because you want to focus on a good life for your family members but you can’t do it for other people, which defines your selfishness. Furthermore, in history, everyone in the world is a brother, no matter their race or complexion, because we are all children of Adam and Eve, so I will say it is our responsibility to focus on those who are addicted to gambling because they need it.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on July 03, 2024, 04:56:18 AM

I also sometimes still meet players in physical casinos who wear things that they think help them, but I don’t take this seriously, for me it’s a thing of the past, because gradually young people are doing without such items. I noticed that the older people are, the more superstitious they are. In any case, if a player with a talisman comes to play and wins, he begins to think that it was all thanks to him that all this happened, and if he loses, he can throw it in the nearest trash can. The fact is that in any case we will get losses and wins as a result and there is no need to attach talismans to it, because this is just what is in the player’s head and his fabulous thoughts.

Young people who realizes that superstitious will not helps them to wins will not trying to use it. They will thinks that playing gambling is not related to that thing so they will just playing gambling and enjoy their time. We can prohibit those people from wearing that stuff because they still believes that thing but we should care of ourselves and always limits our gambling activity.

Maybe they will see by themselves that wearing that stuff will not helps them wins in gambling games so they will lets it off from them. That needs awareness from them that superstitious is not a way to helps them to wins when playing gambling but if they can't realizes that, we can't do anything. We can hopes that they don't makes a noisy when they playing gambling so we can enjoy our gambling activity with fun.

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Quote from: G_Besar on July 03, 2024, 08:48:25 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on July 02, 2024, 09:33:37 AM

Personally I don’t think it is our responsibility to try and get someone out of their gambling addiction especially if we don’t really know the person. An advice or two may be good but you do not need to force them nor should you.

Unless they are a family member I think it would be better to intervene, whether they like it or not because most likely your family will be affected as well.

If it's not someone we know or in other words someone from our own family, of course there's no need to spend more time giving advice repeatedly to that person. Because each person also has their own mind to do anything with decisions that come from themselves, so from what you say it seems quite appropriate to apply to everyone who likes to give advice to all gamblers. Because in this world there are also rich people who like to gamble and consider it as a hobby and they are never hungry when they lose from any gambling.

Yes, on the other hand, what you say is true, if the person who is addicted is not one of our closest family members, then there is no need to overdo it in giving suggestions and advice, because it might be quite draining of our energy and time, and in Plus, they are nobody, in the sense that they are nothing more than other people who don't have a close relationship with us. This means that caring for other people is indeed a good thing, but if it disturbs your time then don't continue.

Addiction is a situation that is really difficult to overcome, and usually someone who has entered the addiction phase has a different mindset and perspective towards gambling, and when you continue to force them to follow the things you say and suggest then there is a possibility that they will think that you are too involved in their affairs or their choices, and also on the other hand it is possible that the people you are giving advice to are those who have a good approach to gambling where they can control themselves well, that is possible.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 02, 2024, 09:33:37 AM

Personally I don’t think it is our responsibility to try and get someone out of their gambling addiction especially if we don’t really know the person. An advice or two may be good but you do not need to force them nor should you.

Unless they are a family member I think it would be better to intervene, whether they like it or not because most likely your family will be affected as well.

If it's not someone we know or in other words someone from our own family, of course there's no need to spend more time giving advice repeatedly to that person. Because each person also has their own mind to do anything with decisions that come from themselves, so from what you say it seems quite appropriate to apply to everyone who likes to give advice to all gamblers. Because in this world there are also rich people who like to gamble and consider it as a hobby and they are never hungry when they lose from any gambling.

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Actually gambling is completely based on luck. However, this gambling definitely requires some experience and skill. Gambling can never be evil gambling can be very bad for those who become addicted to it and 10 other people may call gambling evil after seeing them but I say gambling is not evil only leisure entertainment. This gambling game is used for taking. There are many people who use this gambling game as a means of earning money and there are many people who take this gambling game as entertainment. Gambling is never evil for a person who takes this game as entertainment, it is definitely a good pastime for him. I take this gambling as entertainment. I use this gambling to pass my free time. I never consider gambling as bad. OP I don't endorse the person you had the conversation with. But of course I would say that gambling should be for entertainment and gambling should never be a bad addiction and a means of making money.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on July 01, 2024, 01:45:58 PM

People should stop interfering to some issues they have no idea about, gambling is not demonic and also not what we can do and get ourself into serious trouble, why am saying this is because many have been existing as non gamblers and still behave strangely in addictions over other things they do, still commit a lot of atrocities and we see them as nothing together with what they do as not been superstitious, we only have to focus on ourselves and the characters we behave while alone and in public, this will show how disciplined we are.

You are right but one thing that makes people talk some superstitious stories about gambling is because they failed to gamble responsible andafter several losses upon losses, they put the blame on gambling instead of blaming themselves for gambling irresponsible.

If a gambler gambles with caution and for fun, he will be able to control his losses without any problems and will use only the amount of money that he can afford to lose. Gambling is a game that involves staking which we know that it is based on luck and not any spiritual manipulation.

As a gambler, if we cannot set ourselves in the way we should gamble or accept gambling, then its negative effects will definitely affect our gambling. And I have to take the responsibility myself. I cannot measure others in the same way because of my mistakes. Others can manage responsible gambling. I don't want to accept suggestions from those who give suggestions to others after failing themselves. Because a successful person always sees the positive side and a failed person can expect nothing but failure and negative words. Not everyone wins at gambling. But irresponsible gambling is sure to result in loss. But we can't blame Gambling for that.

A common mistake in gambling is to think it is easy. Gambling totally depends on prediction and prediction will be successful if luck is good. For this gambling should always be taken as fun. It is not a profession. If one considers it as a profession then it will have a negative effect on him and at some point he will become addicted to gambling because the addiction of easy win from gambling will distract him from his normal thinking. gambling win is always luck depend so no one should take it seriously. this is common factor of gambling.

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 02, 2024, 03:58:14 PM

Quote from: Doan9269 on July 01, 2024, 01:45:58 PM

People should stop interfering to some issues they have no idea about, gambling is not demonic and also not what we can do and get ourself into serious trouble, why am saying this is because many have been existing as non gamblers and still behave strangely in addictions over other things they do, still commit a lot of atrocities and we see them as nothing together with what they do as not been superstitious, we only have to focus on ourselves and the characters we behave while alone and in public, this will show how disciplined we are.

You are right but one thing that makes people talk some superstitious stories about gambling is because they failed to gamble responsible andafter several losses upon losses, they put the blame on gambling instead of blaming themselves for gambling irresponsible.

If a gambler gambles with caution and for fun, he will be able to control his losses without any problems and will use only the amount of money that he can afford to lose. Gambling is a game that involves staking which we know that it is based on luck and not any spiritual manipulation.

As a gambler, if we cannot set ourselves in the way we should gamble or accept gambling, then its negative effects will definitely affect our gambling. And I have to take the responsibility myself. I cannot measure others in the same way because of my mistakes. Others can manage responsible gambling. I don't want to accept suggestions from those who give suggestions to others after failing themselves. Because a successful person always sees the positive side and a failed person can expect nothing but failure and negative words. Not everyone wins at gambling. But irresponsible gambling is sure to result in loss. But we can't blame Gambling for that.

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You are right but one thing that makes people talk some superstitious stories about gambling is because they failed to gamble responsible andafter several losses upon losses, they put the blame on gambling instead of blaming themselves for gambling irresponsible.

If a gambler gambles with caution and for fun, he will be able to control his losses without any problems and will use only the amount of money that he can afford to lose. Gambling is a game that involves staking which we know that it is based on luck and not any spiritual manipulation.

The randomness of the games themselves is what causes those superstitious beliefs, after all if a person wins a large amount of money when they are wearing a hat, and then this happens again, they may come to associate the times they won with the hat and believe it is special, when we know that it was just a coincidence and the hat had no way to manipulate the results, but once a person has formed such an opinion, it is almost impossible to convince them about their mistake.

Superstitious can't be related to gambling but some people still believes that happens to them so they will still used something that smell superstitious. We can't force them to leaves that things related to superstitious because if they still believes, that will difficult to tells that gambling is not related to superstitious.

When we go to physical casino, maybe we still sees some people wear something such as bracelets, pendants, necklaces or even rings that they believes can give them good luck when they gamble. That will be up to them if they still believes such thing. As long as they don't harm other gamblers and not make a noisy on the casino, they will allows to use that things. But for wins the games, that will be depends on their luck and how good they have that analysis.

I also sometimes still meet players in physical casinos who wear things that they think help them, but I don’t take this seriously, for me it’s a thing of the past, because gradually young people are doing without such items. I noticed that the older people are, the more superstitious they are. In any case, if a player with a talisman comes to play and wins, he begins to think that it was all thanks to him that all this happened, and if he loses, he can throw it in the nearest trash can. The fact is that in any case we will get losses and wins as a result and there is no need to attach talismans to it, because this is just what is in the player’s head and his fabulous thoughts.

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Quote from: South Park on July 02, 2024, 04:11:14 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on July 02, 2024, 03:58:14 PM

You are right but one thing that makes people talk some superstitious stories about gambling is because they failed to gamble responsible andafter several losses upon losses, they put the blame on gambling instead of blaming themselves for gambling irresponsible.

If a gambler gambles with caution and for fun, he will be able to control his losses without any problems and will use only the amount of money that he can afford to lose. Gambling is a game that involves staking which we know that it is based on luck and not any spiritual manipulation.

The randomness of the games themselves is what causes those superstitious beliefs, after all if a person wins a large amount of money when they are wearing a hat, and then this happens again, they may come to associate the times they won with the hat and believe it is special, when we know that it was just a coincidence and the hat had no way to manipulate the results, but once a person has formed such an opinion, it is almost impossible to convince them about their mistake.

Superstitious can't be related to gambling but some people still believes that happens to them so they will still used something that smell superstitious. We can't force them to leaves that things related to superstitious because if they still believes, that will difficult to tells that gambling is not related to superstitious.

When we go to physical casino, maybe we still sees some people wear something such as bracelets, pendants, necklaces or even rings that they believes can give them good luck when they gamble. That will be up to them if they still believes such thing. As long as they don't harm other gamblers and not make a noisy on the casino, they will allows to use that things. But for wins the games, that will be depends on their luck and how good they have that analysis.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 02, 2024, 10:56:16 AM

Quote from: Accardo on June 30, 2024, 01:20:52 PM

Gambling isn't meant to be seen as a superstitious activity. Games can't be manipulated by just having a cow eat a flag. They should use their time for something else, maybe researching about the game.

Well in my opinion many people use this kind of things to make money, somehow looking for people to fall for, and they call that "foolproof" trading, there are people who have money and want more and fall for anything they see on the web of course, when people talk about paranormal things and that they can establish certain results and that are aligned to make them money, people are very susceptible and prefer to spend money there, knowing that they are going to lose anyway, but they say "at least I'm going to try to see what happens", I know, because I've seen it myself.

A kind of “the means should justify the end" People don't want to care about the means, anymore, they just want to hit the end at once. If people begin to look into their means of gambling and analyze it, they'll realize that gambling doesn't desire all those paranormal activities.

Yet, taking the mentality off their mind would be very difficult. They already trust the process and will continue doing it for a while. Before something then stroke their mind to have a rethink. All these costs time and, for some, money. Adding to the expenses that would be made in the casino. You'd notice how hard people make it for themselves when it comes to gambling.

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 02, 2024, 03:58:14 PM

Quote from: Doan9269 on July 01, 2024, 01:45:58 PM

People should stop interfering to some issues they have no idea about, gambling is not demonic and also not what we can do and get ourself into serious trouble, why am saying this is because many have been existing as non gamblers and still behave strangely in addictions over other things they do, still commit a lot of atrocities and we see them as nothing together with what they do as not been superstitious, we only have to focus on ourselves and the characters we behave while alone and in public, this will show how disciplined we are.

You are right but one thing that makes people talk some superstitious stories about gambling is because they failed to gamble responsible andafter several losses upon losses, they put the blame on gambling instead of blaming themselves for gambling irresponsible.

If a gambler gambles with caution and for fun, he will be able to control his losses without any problems and will use only the amount of money that he can afford to lose. Gambling is a game that involves staking which we know that it is based on luck and not any spiritual manipulation.

That's correct and it's always been the blame game whenever a gambler loses his/her money. It's simple, we took the risk so it's our own fault. There's always an option to not gamble and that way we won't lose anything. But in our mind, we try to test our luck and if it goes south, we should be ready with the consequences.
Some people forget about this fact and that's why they will go to superstitious beliefs like Satanic or some conspiracy theory about them being cheated by the gambling site. It's just the gambler who didn't think about the losses first and claimed that even if the funds he used are gone it's going to be okay.

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Religious people are usually egoistic and quick to use words that make themselves appear more holy than others. The Bible makes no mention of gambling being demonic so where are these teachings coming from? When topics like this are raised, religious people often refer to gambling as mammon and believe gamblers have made gambling their new god.

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 02, 2024, 03:58:14 PM

You are right but one thing that makes people talk some superstitious stories about gambling is because they failed to gamble responsible andafter several losses upon losses, they put the blame on gambling instead of blaming themselves for gambling irresponsible.

If a gambler gambles with caution and for fun, he will be able to control his losses without any problems and will use only the amount of money that he can afford to lose. Gambling is a game that involves staking which we know that it is based on luck and not any spiritual manipulation.

The randomness of the games themselves is what causes those superstitious beliefs, after all if a person wins a large amount of money when they are wearing a hat, and then this happens again, they may come to associate the times they won with the hat and believe it is special, when we know that it was just a coincidence and the hat had no way to manipulate the results, but once a person has formed such an opinion, it is almost impossible to convince them about their mistake.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on July 01, 2024, 01:45:58 PM

People should stop interfering to some issues they have no idea about, gambling is not demonic and also not what we can do and get ourself into serious trouble, why am saying this is because many have been existing as non gamblers and still behave strangely in addictions over other things they do, still commit a lot of atrocities and we see them as nothing together with what they do as not been superstitious, we only have to focus on ourselves and the characters we behave while alone and in public, this will show how disciplined we are.

You are right but one thing that makes people talk some superstitious stories about gambling is because they failed to gamble responsible andafter several losses upon losses, they put the blame on gambling instead of blaming themselves for gambling irresponsible.

If a gambler gambles with caution and for fun, he will be able to control his losses without any problems and will use only the amount of money that he can afford to lose. Gambling is a game that involves staking which we know that it is based on luck and not any spiritual manipulation.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Some people need to build up excuses and delusions to try to justify their own mistakes. As you say, it's possible that this person lost a lot of money over time and instead of accepting that it was the fault of his continuous poor choices to keep on adding funds, he probably fell into some religious "awakening" that put the blame on to demons. There are no demons, these sportbooks and casinos are upfront from the very beginning on the games where they have an edge, some people just think they can beat the system and are ultimately driven by their own greed. If you keep gambling purely casual and fun, not expecting to walk away with any money left and certainly not hoping to get madly rich from it, then you fully understand it.

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Quote from: erep on July 01, 2024, 11:07:50 AM

We are obliged to give good advice to help other people control their gambling behavior beyond limits, but we do not need to force everyone to accept our advice because some people ignore our advice because they are already addicted to gambling.

Personally I don’t think it is our responsibility to try and get someone out of their gambling addiction especially if we don’t really know the person. An advice or two may be good but you do not need to force them nor should you.

Unless they are a family member I think it would be better to intervene, whether they like it or not because most likely your family will be affected as well.

Yes, what you say is true, everyone has their own choices and not everyone agrees with something said or suggested by other people, and if only the person who is addicted is someone who doesn't have any close relationship with us. then in the end it is very possible for them to think that we are someone who interferes too much in other people's affairs. Sometimes caring is not always considered a good thing by everyone, but of course in the end maybe they will realize that what we say and suggest is the right thing.

So maybe we can only give them one or two suggestions and the rest is up to them, because in any case there is always regret at the end of the story that will tell them and slap them. As you said, unless for example they are one of our closest family members, there is a big possibility for us to be affected and affected by the addiction they experience, one of which is in terms of family finances.

We do have our own impressions about things on which there would really be those people who would really be sticking into their beliefs and there are ones who do come with that realistic approach specially on dealing up with gambling on which we know that this is something that will really be situational on this aspect. Supertistions could really be neither be applied or not and this would really be that case to case basis.
If someone is really that having that behavior that following those steps and believing that they are really that making that significant influence or impact then it would really be that normally be that followed
or something that they will really be that doing it on the moment that they would really be gambling on.

As long you wont really be that affecting someone then i dont really see any issues with this and this is something that must be considered on which you should really be that mind
on the moment that you do gamble.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 02, 2024, 09:33:37 AM

Quote from: erep on July 01, 2024, 11:07:50 AM

We are obliged to give good advice to help other people control their gambling behavior beyond limits, but we do not need to force everyone to accept our advice because some people ignore our advice because they are already addicted to gambling.

Personally I don’t think it is our responsibility to try and get someone out of their gambling addiction especially if we don’t really know the person. An advice or two may be good but you do not need to force them nor should you.

Unless they are a family member I think it would be better to intervene, whether they like it or not because most likely your family will be affected as well.

Yes, what you say is true, everyone has their own choices and not everyone agrees with something said or suggested by other people, and if only the person who is addicted is someone who doesn't have any close relationship with us. then in the end it is very possible for them to think that we are someone who interferes too much in other people's affairs. Sometimes caring is not always considered a good thing by everyone, but of course in the end maybe they will realize that what we say and suggest is the right thing.

So maybe we can only give them one or two suggestions and the rest is up to them, because in any case there is always regret at the end of the story that will tell them and slap them. As you said, unless for example they are one of our closest family members, there is a big possibility for us to be affected and affected by the addiction they experience, one of which is in terms of family finances.

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