Is this true or some superstitious believe about gambling? - page 9.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

That is the man's believe and not my believe, gambling is not satanic if only you know what you are doing that is doing it right with your habit towards gambling, I completely agree with you that the man has lost so much for him to have come up so such conclusions about gambling being satanic. However, so far people that win are being paid I don't think if there is anything wrong with it perhaps no body has ever been forced to gamble it has always been a deliberate action or activity which is meant to be considered to be for a fun, gambling becomes problematic if only focused are made on maximizing profits which of course has no guarantee, it is either you win or loss.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

What's your opinion about this please?

The evil tempts humankind since the early times, as we can see on the stories and teachings which have been told to us by our ancestors and which are intrinsic to our societies and cultures, doesn't matter where you are from, as it's common to all of us.

Naturally, the desire and pursue for money is directly related to that temptation, which turns mankind into greedy individuals who lose control over their principles and values, so they can achieve material wealth and become more important and influent among their pairs. We don't know exactly from where such temptations come from, how they take control of us, and why some individuals are stronger than others when resisting to them.

But we can't deny it doesn't happen or doesn't exist. However, it's not possible to say demons manipulate the bets' results on the favour of the casino, because we know there is factor called house edge, which gives a mathematical advantage to the casinos on long run. That is why they profit and gamblers lose.

That factor "house edge" is what the passenger points as the demon. lol. It's misinformation that led to it, he needed to be educated on how gambling works. While people try to let gamblers see the game in a false view, being countervailing could be the case. Because the gambler also wouldn't accept whatever a non gambler has to say, in an unpleasant manner. Hence, gamblers who get to associate with free speech non gamblers who wish to air out their critic on gambling, they should engage them as well and not feel stigmatized. This will not only help the player, but the non gambler would be learning something new. The risky aspect of it, is that the non gambler can become a gambler and may not be opportune to have indebt knowledge of gambling.

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Quote from: Obari on June 15, 2024, 11:37:25 AM

Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.

We don't know where the guy was coming from. It may be his new religion or previous bad experience in gambling. But if you are a responsible gambler, you don't need to worry about people having giving such piece of advice. You know your limits and you are not stepping anyone's toes.

Every individual has their own beliefs in life. We all just need respect when it comes to this aspect. We don't need to force anyone to follow our faith in something. It is better to give some guidance to other people if they ask it from you. Otherwise, it is none of our business to poke someone else's life.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

What's your opinion about this please?

The evil tempts humankind since the early times, as we can see on the stories and teachings which have been told to us by our ancestors and which are intrinsic to our societies and cultures, doesn't matter where you are from, as it's common to all of us.

Naturally, the desire and pursue for money is directly related to that temptation, which turns mankind into greedy individuals who lose control over their principles and values, so they can achieve material wealth and become more important and influent among their pairs. We don't know exactly from where such temptations come from, how they take control of us, and why some individuals are stronger than others when resisting to them.

But we can't deny it doesn't happen or doesn't exist. However, it's not possible to say demons manipulate the bets' results on the favour of the casino, because we know there is factor called house edge, which gives a mathematical advantage to the casinos on long run. That is why they profit and gamblers lose.

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Quote from: Obari on June 15, 2024, 11:37:25 AM

Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.

Very funny to hear all this, the devil this and that, avoid this and that or you belong to the devil. People should learn to understand that everyone of us are different, what I would prefer doing might be completely different from what the next person might find interest doing. Gambling is not satanic, it only has an intense disadvantages when in the hands of those who do not follow the basic restrictions and eventually get addicted then you see how hard life becomes for these people giving the gambling haters enough reason to point fingers as the suffering coming from the devil instead of mismanagement of gambling habits.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on June 15, 2024, 12:42:44 PM

Casinos are not making people addicts it is just the people who abuse gambling in the wrong way and then try to blame the system instead of taking responsibility. This stranger from the bus had the wrong influence or confused himself with religious beliefs and conspiracy theories spread around the internet and created his version of why gambling is bad.

It's like demons have no other job than looking for people who open their app and make bet. Tongue

We should really be thinking up on this way on which its true that casinos arent make or existing for making people that addicted, it is really just that peoples actions are the ones made them able to experience those worst conditions because of addiction and this is something that they should really be that trying out to realize and not everything should really be blamed into casino platforms but rather into your own self.

Applying any superstitious beliefs would really be just that depending into someones preference yet each person does have their own thinking and belief into things. If they are get used to on following
those things since from the start then they would really be that definitely be doing it until the end not unless they would really be making up those realizations that it isnt always something that you could
really be able to rely on when it comes to gambling results. This is why it would really be always best that you should really know on what you are dealing with.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

There is no doubt that the casino and the bookies (in case you are betting) will earn more than the gamblers but there is no truth that demons helping the casino owners. The model and algorithm of gambling (including the house edge) are designed in a way that it will favour the casino more than the end user (the gambler).

Some people have superstitious beliefs and therefore they are relating the edge of the casino as a divine help, while actually it is not. Gamblers already know that casino owners are at the advantage, however, if the gamblers play sensibly and responsibly they could also make money out of it (and demons help the gamblers too Wink

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Casinos are not making people addicts it is just the people who abuse gambling in the wrong way and then try to blame the system instead of taking responsibility. This stranger from the bus had the wrong influence or confused himself with religious beliefs and conspiracy theories spread around the internet and created his version of why gambling is bad.

It's like demons have no other job than looking for people who open their app and make bet. Tongue

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Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 14, 2024, 10:18:38 AM

he is not a casino owner, there is little chance of him being a person who is involved in gambling, so anyone who thinks correctly will see that he is a liar, if he really had some power then he would be very rich, he He could match all the lottery tickets, he could match all the sports betting games. With that I'm saying that we shouldn't believe in nonsense things like superstition

I am equally an African and we also have witch doctors in My country. So I can tell you that people with super powers have boundaries to what they reveal, they may have powers to predict a game and win in gambling, but there a risk and task regarding witch prediction, and if you don't have the mind to take the risk then you can not be granted what you seak. That is to tell you that nothing good comes so easy the witch doctors are not exempted in the task of using vudu to generate a betting code, but they chose not to, because they want to leave longer. Anything that involves making excessive money with vudu, be it gambling or whatsoever all are money ritual. That is why they chose not to use such power to become rich because of the side effect of it.

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Quote from: Wakate on June 14, 2024, 02:50:22 PM

We all have different opinions about gambling and it's important follow our own not minding what other people think because that could have serious effects on us as gamblers if we keep thinking about other people's opinions. We have to get motivated and keep working and creating a better strategies that would always be profitable with high winning ratio compared to losses. Planning and executing are the things that would would trigger us to make money as gambler not minding or bothering oneself about what other gamblers think about us. The concentration should be to make money because that is the major reasons why we all are working.

Do you think that the concentration is to make money in gambling? that's actually not recommendable if that's what you're talking about. But, on the other hand, gamblers are meant to concentrate mostly on the business which actually yields them money. What people think about gambling and us the players doesn't have much impact on what the casino tends to provide for players as results. It could be win or its opposite.

Nothing actually beats being open towards non gambler's expression and questions about us. A lot of them would learn via this medium and the perspective they have the player would change immediately. Isn't it why we read and learn about gambling, to teach others and change their perspective. When we allow false thoughts flow within non gamblers it opens a threat to the players to always accept they're doing the wrong thing.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

I don't see any room for prejudice against gambling in today's technological age. Gambling is a game where gamblers predict their own wins and losses. Gambling sites have many games and they are made very difficult so that gamblers cannot win them easily. You can win up to 2x-1000x more if you gamble. Do you think it should be very easy to become such a win in moments? So before going to gamble you must be careful and accept these risks and then start gambling. There should be no superstition in gambling. If he loses in gambling, he should understand that it is his misfortune and he should accept the responsibility with a smile.

We all have different opinions about gambling and it's important follow our own not minding what other people think because that could have serious effects on us as gamblers if we keep thinking about other people's opinions. We have to get motivated and keep working and creating a better strategies that would always be profitable with high winning ratio compared to losses. Planning and executing are the things that would would trigger us to make money as gambler not minding or bothering oneself about what other gamblers think about us. The concentration should be to make money because that is the major reasons why we all are working.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it,

What's your opinion about this please?

It's true that people will always have diverse opinions about gambling, but yet that doesn't make gambling an evil act, as it's just a mere business which involves trying of luck. Hence, if you see people speak so bad about gambling, it's literally a sign maybe they might have lost huge sum to gambling or either knows someone who lost huge sum to gambling. Gambling is not a sin, and can never be an act of demonic manipulation, it's just business, and the earlier these people understand it this way as the primarily aim/concept of gambling, the better for them, because the probability of the casino winning is always higher than that of the gambler, which is why if you lucky enough to win, you could get paid over a $10,000 by simply betting with ordinary $5 to $10.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

I don't see any room for prejudice against gambling in today's technological age. Gambling is a game where gamblers predict their own wins and losses. Gambling sites have many games and they are made very difficult so that gamblers cannot win them easily. You can win up to 2x-1000x more if you gamble. Do you think it should be very easy to become such a win in moments? So before going to gamble you must be careful and accept these risks and then start gambling. There should be no superstition in gambling. If he loses in gambling, he should understand that it is his misfortune and he should accept the responsibility with a smile.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

- It depends on whether you believe what the person told you; if you believe what he said, for sure you will stop gambling. But in your story, you didn't believe what he said because you laughed, didn't you? But anyway, you can just ignore what he mentioned.

Maybe it can be said that some gamblers become bad because of gambling, but there are others who do not become bad despite the fact that they gamble. So, that means it depends on us if we become bad because of gambling.

Yes, this is true on which not all things we do have in mind would really be something that be conclusive or could really be applied to all. Perceptions and views would really be that different to each other but it cant really be denied that when it comes to gamblimg impressions and views on which it would really be biased on the negative side on which its not really that surprising. Believing others words? It would really be just that depending on you because we do have our own will and thinking about various things on which it would really be that so impossible that you would really be just that simply agreeing on what others been saying and you would really be tending to make yourself that completely stop just because you had believe that gambling is bad or something that will really be affecting you negatively.

When it comes to gambling then it isnt really that bad, as long you arent that compromising something then you should really be just that fine. It is really just that there are really individuals
who would really be going into certain extents and this is why they do really end up on a disaster.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 14, 2024, 10:18:38 AM

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I mostly agree with your point of view and I was aware there is a very strong belief in Africa with comes to witch doctors, spiritual healing and other things which have sound like Mumbo Jumbo to many of us. Though, There is something interesting I read about in one of those little books/maganizes the Jehova Witnesses usually like to spread around for people to follow their church.
That specific versión of the magazine has an story about a young girl from the United States who apparently had the power to see the future of others on the short and mid term. She started to use that ability to make predictions for fun, with her friends, telling them what was going to happen to them the next day, quite mundane things, like whether they were going to get some extra money from their parents, or get their car broken down. However, in the story she was unable to see her own future not even a single day ahead, only the future of others.

The story concludes that she stopped doing those things after understanding with the help of the Jehova witnesses that she was getting information from fallen angels.

Perhaps, a similar is what goes own with those witch doctors and healers from Africa? What do you think?

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

- It depends on whether you believe what the person told you; if you believe what he said, for sure you will stop gambling. But in your story, you didn't believe what he said because you laughed, didn't you? But anyway, you can just ignore what he mentioned.

Maybe it can be said that some gamblers become bad because of gambling, but there are others who do not become bad despite the fact that they gamble. So, that means it depends on us if we become bad because of gambling.

The moderate view is that everything that may arise from gambling will depend on how we respond and react, if someone has the conclusion that the winnings are manipulated and leaves it all to the casino owner who owns the winnings and whatever it becomes like real and superstitious.
But we have to find out how the house performs against us? Is it really controlled? or is it just a random calculation so that luck can be created in gambling without any third party to get it.

Believe it or not this is indeed back to each one, the good and bad effects also depend on the gambler who does it.

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 12, 2024, 05:55:03 PM

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

- It depends on whether you believe what the person told you; if you believe what he said, for sure you will stop gambling. But in your story, you didn't believe what he said because you laughed, didn't you? But anyway, you can just ignore what he mentioned.

Maybe it can be said that some gamblers become bad because of gambling, but there are others who do not become bad despite the fact that they gamble. So, that means it depends on us if we become bad because of gambling.

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I live in Africa and here in Africa since I was born I have always heard stories of many people who went to witch doctors to have luck in life, I have always heard stories of people who went to witch doctors to earn a lot of money. If these people who went to witch doctors to make a lot of money or change their lives were successful, I honestly doubt very much that they really succeeded, but it is a fact that a good part of the people in my country, when they are in despair in life, they immediately They spend what little money they have left going to my country's wizards because they believe he will be able to fix their lives. For example, this is a photo of one of my country's wizards

he is not a casino owner, there is little chance of him being a person who is involved in gambling, so anyone who thinks correctly will see that he is a liar, if he really had some power then he would be very rich, he He could match all the lottery tickets, he could match all the sports betting games. With that I'm saying that we shouldn't believe in nonsense things like superstition

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Quote from: Marvelockg on June 13, 2024, 05:53:20 AM

Gambling is a normal play that just got monetized to become a business for the owners and a source of joy and some sort of passive streams of income for others. Those
set of people that are superstitious with gambling are the same set of people that think that almost everything is demonic including being a fan of a sports team or evening using the Internet is also demonic.

For as long as I know, gambling isn't something that's all that complex to understand that will make me factor out any sort of demonic trends into it. Instead of assuming that gambling is demonic, I would rather think that borrowing is actually demonic as it's always deficult to pay back from someone you've borrowed from and maybe we could ascride such deficulty to mean that the person you borrowed the said money from could use strange power to stop you from being able to pay the money back as at when due

It happens,the superstitious believe about gambling is that since gambling is what people like,the enemy of a particular person can make him so addicted to gambling that there is no amount of money he will win from gambling that will be enough to settle his problem,he must always want to spend all of them for nothing,keep borrowing more when it finishes,and remain in debt because a spell has been kept on him.
While on the other hand, someone can borrow you money,and go fetish for you to be unable to pay the money in time so that when he will eventually ask you,it will be that the money has increased,and the debtor will be unable to pay,which will result in him giving out one of his landed properties to pay the person that borrowed him.

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