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Quote from: darkseid1199 on March 21, 2017, 12:33:33 PM

Quote from: ValeryBark on March 21, 2017, 11:51:23 AM

Today ended the first Senate hearing about the break-in Russian servers the democratic party. As expected, no evidence confirming the involvement of Russian no. Waiting for the continuation of the play.

According to Obama there was enough evidence to show that the Russians hacked the DNC and thus manipulated the outcome of the elections, why dont the government release such information to the public so that we can judge by ourselves if the election was rigged or not.

Russians hacked the DNC - TRUE
Russians hacked the elections - FALSE

Hacking of the DNC voter rolls can't be equated to hacking of the elections. For sure, it had some impact in states such as Michigan and Wisconsin, by encouraging the Sanders supporters to stay at home. But it is nothing when compared to the Democrats engaging in massive voter fraud in Detroit and Minneapolis.

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Quote from: ValeryBark on March 21, 2017, 11:51:23 AM

Today ended the first Senate hearing about the break-in Russian servers the democratic party. As expected, no evidence confirming the involvement of Russian no. Waiting for the continuation of the play.

According to Obama there was enough evidence to show that the Russians hacked the DNC and thus manipulated the outcome of the elections, why dont the government release such information to the public so that we can judge by ourselves if the election was rigged or not.

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Today ended the first Senate hearing about the break-in Russian servers the democratic party. As expected, no evidence confirming the involvement of Russian no. Waiting for the continuation of the play.

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There is no reason and evidence to indicate that the elections were hacked, Commey was certainly influential with how Trump won the election.His last minute investigation into the email servers was a turning point in the election campaign.

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Quote from: canine2017 on March 18, 2017, 11:48:35 AM

Quote from: ustradebitcoin on March 17, 2017, 12:18:22 PM

there is zero evidence that Russian hacking influenced the election in any way
may be the Russians did some hacking But that’s not why Hillary is a loser.

It does not matter that Hillary is a loser. The main thing that expats can interfere in the American strategic institutions. The Internet makes defenseless Americans. This is very bad.

The hackers targeting the DNC voter roles can't be interpreted as an attack on the "American strategic institutions". The reason is that the DNC is not an "American strategic institution". It can happen to any political party, in any country.

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Quote from: ustradebitcoin on March 17, 2017, 12:18:22 PM

there is zero evidence that Russian hacking influenced the election in any way
may be the Russians did some hacking But that’s not why Hillary is a loser.

It does not matter that Hillary is a loser. The main thing that expats can interfere in the American strategic institutions. The Internet makes defenseless Americans. This is very bad.

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Quote from: swastik384 on December 15, 2016, 02:41:50 AM

How can anyone claim that US election get hacked? Did Trump really won by hacking? Isn't that was a fair election? If it really get hacked now what steps US will take place for it? Do they again have election or Trump will be the next President?

No one is claiming the election was hacked. The outcome of the election wasn't influenced at all by the Russian's hacking the email of people in the Clinton campaign. The news outlets do refer to it as "hacked election" but it's a buzz term that's more easy to say than "hacked emails of Democratic campaign for the Presidential election".

Even the news agencies that phrase it as "hacked election" will fully admit that the election result was not hacked or influenced in any way.

EVERYONE (shockingly) agrees on this point!

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Quote from: ustradebitcoin on March 17, 2017, 12:18:22 PM

there is zero evidence that Russian hacking influenced the election in any way
may be the Russians did some hacking But that’s not why Hillary is a loser.

There was no need even for hacking, there was even the lack of information about this in order to crush a big storm and excitement in the political world. It is not yet clear whether these fakes have achieved their goal, but we hope to still find out.

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there is zero evidence that Russian hacking influenced the election in any way
may be the Russians did some hacking But that’s not why Hillary is a loser.

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Quote from: criptix on March 17, 2017, 09:57:13 AM

Read foundations of geopolitics.
This is what you call soft politics nowadays.
Without even one bomb putin got his lover in the white house.

It is a fact that trump loves putin. There are no alternative facts regarding this.

I think that Putin had a direct impact on Trump. Most likely he had an influence on the surrounding Trump elite. Now these friends Trump constantly caught and suspended. In the long term, Putin could lose the battle for Trump.

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Read foundations of geopolitics.
This is what you call soft politics nowadays.
Without even one bomb putin got his lover in the white house.

It is a fact that trump loves putin. There are no alternative facts regarding this.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 17, 2017, 02:16:55 AM

Quote from: mastermold on March 16, 2017, 08:11:35 AM

US accused Russia for hacking elections, but i dont think so that US elections were hacked. They hacked the DNC’s e-mail servers, then released thousands of e-mails.

That very likely impacted the election. But Russia didn’t actually hack the voting systems or directly alter the result.

There is no sufficient proof to claim that it was the Russian government agencies which hacked into the DNC email server. Why can't it be the Sanders supporters? After all, the main purpose of the hack was to show that Sanders was cheated out of a victory during the Democrat primaries.

Why Sanders this scandal? In America, there are quite legal ways to punish the Democrats for it. Moreover, the defeat of Democrats is not indirectly beneficial to the Sanders. No. It's definitely Russian. They are in this thread are most interested.

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THERE ARE SOME good reasons to believe Russians had something to do with the breaches into email accounts belonging to members of the Democratic party, which proved varyingly embarrassing or disruptive for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. But “good” doesn’t necessarily mean good enough to indict Russia’s head of state for sabotaging our democracy.

There’s a lot of evidence from the attack on the table, mostly detailing how the hack was perpetrated, and possibly the language of the perpetrators. It certainly remains plausible that Russians hacked the DNC, and remains possible that Russia itself ordered it. But the refrain of Russian attribution has been repeated so regularly and so emphatically that it’s become easy to forget that no one has ever truly proven the claim. There is strong evidence indicating that Democratic email accounts were breached via phishing messages, and that specific malware was spread across DNC computers. There’s even evidence that the attackers are the same group that’s been spotted attacking other targets in the past. But again: No one has actually proven that group is the Russian government

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Quote from: mastermold on March 16, 2017, 08:11:35 AM

US accused Russia for hacking elections, but i dont think so that US elections were hacked. They hacked the DNC’s e-mail servers, then released thousands of e-mails.

That very likely impacted the election. But Russia didn’t actually hack the voting systems or directly alter the result.

There is no sufficient proof to claim that it was the Russian government agencies which hacked into the DNC email server. Why can't it be the Sanders supporters? After all, the main purpose of the hack was to show that Sanders was cheated out of a victory during the Democrat primaries.

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Quote from: eddie13 on March 16, 2017, 08:33:17 AM

The real story..

Nobody accused anyone of "hacking the election"... The election did not get hacked..

Hillary/the DNC/Democrats got hackes along with podesta and a lot of nasty shit about the democrats was found out because of these hacks..

So the sore loser left claim that the hacks on the democrats INFLUENCED the election, not that the election/votes were hacked..

The hackers just released relevant information to the people that proved hillary is as shitty as we thought..

Thank you hackers..

If the election was "hacked" it was by illegal mexicans voting FOR hillary, non-computer related hack..

This information was thrown to the masses, so that the public began to resent and plans were for the United States to be overwhelmed by a wave of protests. This is so clear to whom this state of affairs is beneficial.

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The real story..

Nobody accused anyone of "hacking the election"... The election did not get hacked..

Hillary/the DNC/Democrats got hackes along with podesta and a lot of nasty shit about the democrats was found out because of these hacks..

So the sore loser left claim that the hacks on the democrats INFLUENCED the election, not that the election/votes were hacked..

The hackers just released relevant information to the people that proved hillary is as shitty as we thought..

Thank you hackers..

If the election was "hacked" it was by illegal mexicans voting FOR hillary, non-computer related hack..

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Quote from: PeterTheGrape on March 15, 2017, 04:09:35 AM

Quote from: swastik384 on December 15, 2016, 02:41:50 AM

How can anyone claim that US election get hacked? Did Trump really won by hacking? Isn't that was a fair election? If it really get hacked now what steps US will take place for it? Do they again have election or Trump will be the next President?

There is enough evidence to say that the election probably was hacked.

The solution would be to have people buy the presidency instead of buying votes. The candidate who pays the most gets the office. This would lead to more honest elections.

Losers in the election has the big tendency to react by denying things that they have really lost. They dont want to accept the fact that they lost the election and thats why they will make many issues to cover up their loses. In case of Clintons losing the election she cannot accept the fact that she lost amidst the billions of funds she spent and so she declared that the election was hacked by Trump to deny the Trump that she really lost the election.

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US accused Russia for hacking elections, but i dont think so that US elections were hacked. They hacked the DNC’s e-mail servers, then released thousands of e-mails.

That very likely impacted the election. But Russia didn’t actually hack the voting systems or directly alter the result.

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Quote from: philggg on March 15, 2017, 02:36:57 AM

You cannot rule it out that the Russian help to hack the us election because you will notice that putting and Obama are not good friends so he want obbama or Clinton out of power

It is well known that Putin hated Clinton. Indications are that he might have favored Trump to win the POTUS elections of 2016. That said, Putin had no major role in the elections. The voting machines were not connected to the internet, and therefore it was not possible to hack them.

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Quote from: swastik384 on December 15, 2016, 02:41:50 AM

How can anyone claim that US election get hacked? Did Trump really won by hacking? Isn't that was a fair election? If it really get hacked now what steps US will take place for it? Do they again have election or Trump will be the next President?

For me, I dont believe US elections is really hacked and the reason for that is, for US that prides itself as the most powerful country in the world then its a slap on US intelligence. Also, I believe when two people contest for something that is meant for one person, no matter how fair the process is, the losing party will always find reasons as to why he didnt win the contest...

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