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Quote from: Daniel91 on March 02, 2017, 01:42:34 PM

We can't give definitive answer without concrete facts and profs.
It seems that Putin and Russia really had desire to see Trump as new US President.
Real question is really if they did something about it.
I doubt that Trump, or his team, will work hard on this issue

Public will never know real truth about it.

It is well known to everyone that Putin had preferred Trump over Hillary. Putin is not in good terms with anyone in the Clinton crime family ever since the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999. Putin hates the Clintons, and the Clintons hate him in return.

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I think a lot of this speculation is about some kind of arrogant assumption that European companies etc couldn't be corrupt. Sure, Russia wanted Trump to win, but equally most European countries wanted Clinton to win. Not to mention that if the election had been hacked it's most likely that Trump would have won the popular vote, which he didn't - Clinton gained significantly more votes, it was just the electoral college that made him win.

But this "liberals can't deal with the fact that they lost" thing is quite irritating. People who talk about that don't seem to understand that it's not black and white and the prospect of electoral fraud is not outlandish or impossible - especially knowing that neither Trump nor Clinton are socially responsible or kind. Speculation about electoral fraud doesn't always have to be linked to the side that you're on, and I know being neutral that I would have thought about the same thing about electoral fraud from Clinton as I do about Trump.

The claim that illegal immigrants voted is more outlandish than any of this though - they obviously can't vote because they're not registered, electoral fraud could theoretically be carried out with dead people but definitely not with people who don't exist in the eyes of the law.

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There is no evidence, if there was they would have used it by now to remove Trump from office. The hacking and all the other shit is just propaganda against him.

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We can't give definitive answer without concrete facts and profs.
It seems that Putin and Russia really had desire to see Trump as new US President.
Real question is really if they did something about it.
I doubt that Trump, or his team, will work hard on this issue

Public will never know real truth about it.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on March 02, 2017, 12:27:31 PM

No, it wasn't hacked, tho you can see that there were some illegals voting as well as dead people. So, no hackz involved but frauds.. Liberals just can't deal with the fact that they've lost so they'll cry about everything.

Perhaps not enough dead people and illegal aliens voted in states such as Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. That is the reason why Hillary lost. Hopefully they can make up for that in 2020.

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No, it wasn't hacked, tho you can see that there were some illegals voting as well as dead people. So, no hackz involved but frauds.. Liberals just can't deal with the fact that they've lost so they'll cry about everything.

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Quote from: Forester618 on March 02, 2017, 08:20:26 AM

I'm sure Trump really won honestly. You can argue about why it happened, but that is another question. Always in the elections has the advantage of the ruling party. So Trump had no chance for fraud. Now actions Trump be more adequate and maybe he has a chance to become a good President.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering is a fact. Just mostly resulting into the ruling parties having an advantage upon new competitors.
Regarding "a good" or "a bad" president from what I can see so far he's highly disputed. That seldom ends well.

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Quote from: juras54 on December 26, 2016, 09:41:23 PM

where does the election get hacked? were also recount in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, it was clear even at the Trump added votes

And the recount in Michigan was cancelled, after the Democrats feared that it will unveil the ballot stuffing from their part in the city of Detroit. Overall, the recount exercise added to the credibility of the Trump win.

I'm sure Trump really won honestly. You can argue about why it happened, but that is another question. Always in the elections has the advantage of the ruling party. So Trump had no chance for fraud. Now actions Trump be more adequate and maybe he has a chance to become a good President.

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Quote from: juras54 on December 26, 2016, 09:41:23 PM

where does the election get hacked? were also recount in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, it was clear even at the Trump added votes

And the recount in Michigan was cancelled, after the Democrats feared that it will unveil the ballot stuffing from their part in the city of Detroit. Overall, the recount exercise added to the credibility of the Trump win.

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Quote from: juras54 on December 26, 2016, 09:41:23 PM

where does the election get hacked? were also recount in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, it was clear even at the Trump added votes

There was none. It is just a push from the left to delegitimize Trump's administration before he is even sworn in.

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where does the election get hacked? were also recount in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, it was clear even at the Trump added votes

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Quote from: reginalkri on December 26, 2016, 06:35:31 AM

Who's hacked it then? Not the democrats, and the republican politicians all seemed to hate Trump and did not support it. Who's going to hack all these booths?

There is no doubt that there was a massive amount of voter fraud committed during the POTUS elections in November. But the bad news for the Democrats is that 99% of this voter fraud was committed by their own party members. For example, in a polling booth in Detroit, more than 300 votes were counted, although the total number of voters were around 50. And Hillary won 99% of the vote in that booth.

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Who's hacked it then? Not the democrats, and the republican politicians all seemed to hate Trump and did not support it. Who's going to hack all these booths?

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Quote from: cherline on December 25, 2016, 06:15:32 PM

this is the plan of democrat..they cant accept trump is president now

Hillary lost. From Daniel 4:17:

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The decision is announced by messengers,
the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living
may know that the Most High is sovereign over the
kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he
wishes and sets over them the lowliest of men.

God rules.

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this is the plan of democrat..they cant accept trump is president now

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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 25, 2016, 07:40:46 AM

Hillary lost this elections because she was corrupt, lair and people didn't trust her.

There was one more reason. She won the Democrat nomination through unfair means. Bernie Sanders would have won the Democrat nomination and the POTUS elections, but Hillary rigged the primaries and won the nomination. Democrat delegates including Amy Klobuchar and Al Franken voted for Hillary, despite Bernie Sanders winning the primaries in their home states.

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There is no proofs for such claims.
Losers will always complain and accuse others for their own mistakes.
Hillary lost this elections because she was corrupt, lair and people didn't trust her.
It's simple truth.
I don't think that is so simple to hack entire election.
I guess it's possible in the movie or in human imagination but not in reality.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 25, 2016, 01:45:48 AM

Quote from: Rokket on December 24, 2016, 07:45:48 PM

mahhh..i think Democrats are Very Angry They Lost Their Money Betting on Hillary

Hillary got the money in return for promises that she will be giving tax breaks and incentives to these corporations and banks once she gets elected. But despite the overwhelming odds, Trump won the election, and now Hillary and the Democrats are unable to fulfill the promises they made. Either they should return the money, or they must force the Republicans to give some concessions to these corporations. It is a tough choice.

Of course, the alternative is to simply assassinate her, Mafia style, so it doesn't happen again.

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