Topic: Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi killed! (Read 685 times)

Yes, they had to, but the death of Abu Bakr will weakened them. Now they are searching or has chosen already his predecessor and will announced in the coming days.They are fighting for their ideology and its hard to eliminate but I think its better to focus on educating the young ones that war is never an answer. More government support on basic services to  earn their trust to this affected place I think will convince some to go back in government.

The strength of ISIS came directly from economics, their seizing and operating oil wells. This in turn seemed to be "allowed" by Obama/Hillary. Quite curious, right?

Now they've lost all those, so they are very weak. And we're playing a shooting gallery.

It seems like they are trying to elect their new leader so his death might be indirectly confirmed by them as well.
So sad that this terrorism organization is not eliminated after their leader's death. I hope they are going to be weaker at least.

It seems like they are trying to elect their new leader so his death might be indirectly confirmed by them as well.
So sad that this terrorism organization is not eliminated after their leader's death. I hope they are going to be weaker at least.

I don't follow them so I don't know if they've already confirmed it but from what I observed from groups like this, they are usually slow to confirm deaths compared to how quick they are to take credit for attacks.

Though groups like this usually have an appointed successor, there often are some struggles between factions after the figurehead dies.

All the king's horses and all the King's men,

Couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again!

I’m glad he is dead, I just hope the doggie that helped get him is ok.  Good job delta force and wishing a speedy recovery for the doggo. 

You are right and I do agree with you that IS has now evolved out from one man terrorist group. In fact, the day Baghdadi was killed ISIS broadcast ed a propaganda video confirming their new leader. The new in charge was supposedly right man of Bin Laden and has also spent time with Baghdadi in jail. Nevertheless, I congratulate all for such a great news. Such extremist do deserve such execution.

Don't forget there's someone always ready and available to take his place supposedly this news is correct (which probably is). The second in command will take over his position and then continue from where he stopped. IS has out grown a one man terrorist group, kiling the leader won't have much effect since he can easily be replaced also if I'm not mistaken Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi wasn't a very public individual, he doesn't come out openly often like others terrorist leaders do.

Not much of an achievement here, IS as a terrorist group hasn't been defeated. This is just a distraction for 2020 general election. Trump just been Trump with his tweet "something very big has just happened" trying to overhyped the situation for his benefit.

Do we have a confirmation from ISIS side?
I want to see something like that in order to believe that he is really dead. I mean they haven't refused the Trump allegations but they haven't confirmed al-Baghdadi's dead as well.

^^ I don't believe Americans as well. I am just saying that a confrmation of his death needs to be confirmed from both sides.
The US claims that his body turned into pieces after the explosion. However, they manage to throw him in the sea. Not any evidence about that. How about being alive and recruited by the CIA in order to learn top secrets? Have you ever thought about that?

by Stephen Lendman (stephenlendman.org - Home - Stephen Lendman)

The late Chalmers Johnson, a CIA consultant from 1967 - 1973, called for Langley's abolition, stressing that democracy and the agency's existence are incompatible.

Along with collecting and disseminating intelligence, agency operatives "perform such other functions and duties related to intelligence affecting the national security as the National Security Council may direct."

The above quote is all about the CIA's dark side, an unaccountable force unto itself, operating extrajudicially worldwide.

The late William Blum documented its involvement in assassinating foreign leaders, removing others by coup d'etats, propping up friendly despots, operating secret torture prisons, and other unlawful practices. Its agenda includes virtually every conceivable form of wrongdoing.

It tried or succeeded in toppling scores of governments worldwide, Blum saying:

"If you flip over the rock of American foreign policy (throughout) the past century, this is what crawls out: invasions, bombings, (subversion), overthrowing governments, suppressing (popular) movements for social change, assassinating political leaders, perverting elections, manipulating labor unions, manufacturing 'news,' death squads, torture, (chemical), biological (and nuclear) warfare, (radiological contamination), drug trafficking, mercenaries," police state repression, and endless wars on humanity.

From 1968 – 1973 in Southeast Asia, the CIA ran or was involved in the Phoenix Program with US Special Forces and its own Military Assistance Command Vietnam-Special Operations Group (MACV-SOG).

Why else would there be a new leader immediately after the US claims to have killed Baghdadi? I believe there were also reports that known ISIS social media channels were sharing condolences after he was killed; I have zero interest in reading ISIS propaganda, or otherwise reading anything any of them says, so I haven't been able to personally verify this.

Do we have a confirmation from ISIS side?
I want to see something like that in order to believe that he is really dead. I mean they haven't refused the Trump allegations but they haven't confirmed al-Baghdadi's dead as well.

Few weeks in, seems he really is dead, especially if the suicide vest story was true. Or at least heavily injured if not. Whether you believe ISIS are authentic terrorists or not, what we can be almost sure is that this is not over yet.

Such a great news for the affected regions and their people that the evil is finally dead. USA did good job with operation "Kayla" but sad for the dog. If you notice Trump's speech after the encounter, he mentions two words strongly in his speech " Dog" and "Coward". This was surely to entice extremist as they hate these two words the most.