ISIS Threatens Putin/Russia - page 2.

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Quote from: Rassah on September 11, 2014, 12:44:55 AM

Quote from: Honeypot on September 10, 2014, 11:42:54 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 10, 2014, 09:58:15 PM

Al Qaeda has dealt a MASSIVE blow to USA, not in the forms of jets hitting buildings, but in the form of a totally unnecessary and wasteful $3 trillion dollar war, which in part led to massive economic damage to US. I wonder if these guys are just trying to provoke anyone they can to try to screw countries like Al Qaeda did?

This again?

Do some better research. I bet you think housing crisis happened because of the war expenses too.

Just a hint - global economics and national budget doesn't work the same way as a personal checkbook.

Did 9/11 and Iraq/Afghanistan war contribute to the economic depression in 2001/2002?

You need to educate yourself on the definition of 'depression'.

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Quote from: Honeypot on September 10, 2014, 11:42:54 PM

Quote from: Rassah on September 10, 2014, 09:58:15 PM

Al Qaeda has dealt a MASSIVE blow to USA, not in the forms of jets hitting buildings, but in the form of a totally unnecessary and wasteful $3 trillion dollar war, which in part led to massive economic damage to US. I wonder if these guys are just trying to provoke anyone they can to try to screw countries like Al Qaeda did?

This again?

Do some better research. I bet you think housing crisis happened because of the war expenses too.

Just a hint - global economics and national budget doesn't work the same way as a personal checkbook.

Did 9/11 and Iraq/Afghanistan war contribute to the economic depression in 2001/2002?

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Quote from: Rassah on September 10, 2014, 09:58:15 PM

Al Qaeda has dealt a MASSIVE blow to USA, not in the forms of jets hitting buildings, but in the form of a totally unnecessary and wasteful $3 trillion dollar war, which in part led to massive economic damage to US. I wonder if these guys are just trying to provoke anyone they can to try to screw countries like Al Qaeda did?

This again?

Do some better research. I bet you think housing crisis happened because of the war expenses too.

Just a hint - global economics and national budget doesn't work the same way as a personal checkbook.

Rassah

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Al Qaeda has dealt a MASSIVE blow to USA, not in the forms of jets hitting buildings, but in the form of a totally unnecessary and wasteful $3 trillion dollar war, which in part led to massive economic damage to US. I wonder if these guys are just trying to provoke anyone they can to try to screw countries like Al Qaeda did?

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 05, 2014, 12:12:19 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 05, 2014, 11:41:37 AM

The US and Russia may not be best friends, but I welcome Russia's sentiments and wish more countries would follow suit to put an end to ISIS and middle eastern terror groups once and for all.

I agree with you.
In order to stop ISIS, the most dangerous terrorist group in history, everybody should work together, friends and enemies, USA, NATO, EU; Russia and even Iran.

I agree, although it is more complicated then that they might all have one common enemy together.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 07, 2014, 08:09:14 AM

They may be having too many enemies. But none of them wants to do the direct fighting against them, with the exception of Bashar al Assad. Also, the ISIS do have some powerful individuals backing them. And that means that they will exist for a long time to come, and may even expand to new territories, such as Egypt, Turkey and Libya.

Turkey isn't a good option. At first turks are strong and well equipped. The army has a good reputation within the population and it's a NATO member, what would give an excuse for the NATO members, to send an army there. Libya is their best bet, that's a mess without a real government,a lot of islamists are already there and in addition it's the perfect place to link up with their supporters across the Maghreb, in Sudan and Niger and escalate the whole thing to new heights.

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Quote from: FortuneJack on September 07, 2014, 05:03:40 AM

ISIS has accumulated too many enemies, I don't think they will exist much longer

They may be having too many enemies. But none of them wants to do the direct fighting against them, with the exception of Bashar al Assad. Also, the ISIS do have some powerful individuals backing them. And that means that they will exist for a long time to come, and may even expand to new territories, such as Egypt, Turkey and Libya.

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ISIS has accumulated too many enemies, I don't think they will exist much longer

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Quote from: beetcoin on September 04, 2014, 04:26:05 PM

i can't tell if they're actually serious about attacking america and other nations. i guess they want to to be confused whether they are really crazy enough to provoke america. an attack on american soil would pretty much guarantee deployment of troops to re-take ISIS strongholds.

i bet the U.S. and west wouldn't mind attack on russia though.. keep them occupied Cheesy

Remember the Second World War ? Allied force and Russians attacked Nazi Germany from from East and the West to meet each other. How about US & Russian forces meet each other on the ground of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria ? I wish everyone increases their oil reserve before the war break out.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 06, 2014, 01:34:48 AM

Quote from: Bonam on September 04, 2014, 05:38:43 PM

Of course, unless they actually interfere with Russian interests, it is unlikely Russia will do anything to them, so they aren't taking much of a risk by "threatening" Russia.

There are thousands of mercenaries fighting with the Islamic State from Chechnya and other Caucassian republics of Russia. So there is some interference, although it may not be a direct one. The Russian authorities are already concerned with this, as they believe that these mercenaries can create trouble back home once they return from Syria or Iraq.

AFAIK Chechen fighters came to Syria to fight Assad in the first place. No since all opposition is being slowly weakened, with many fighters joining ISIS, I suppose many of those Chechens will join ISIS as well.
And this can be a real threat to security if they're allowed to go back to Russia.

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Quote from: Bonam on September 04, 2014, 05:38:43 PM

Of course, unless they actually interfere with Russian interests, it is unlikely Russia will do anything to them, so they aren't taking much of a risk by "threatening" Russia.

There are thousands of mercenaries fighting with the Islamic State from Chechnya and other Caucassian republics of Russia. So there is some interference, although it may not be a direct one. The Russian authorities are already concerned with this, as they believe that these mercenaries can create trouble back home once they return from Syria or Iraq.

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Good, let them destroy each other.

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Quote from: RodeoX on September 05, 2014, 01:36:01 PM

Quote from: popolite11 on September 05, 2014, 12:59:27 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on September 05, 2014, 12:12:19 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 05, 2014, 11:41:37 AM

The US and Russia may not be best friends, but I welcome Russia's sentiments and wish more countries would follow suit to put an end to ISIS and middle eastern terror groups once and for all.

I agree with you.
In order to stop ISIS, the most dangerous terrorist group in history, everybody should work together, friends and enemies, USA, NATO, EU; Russia and even Iran.

i think its time for all the superpowers to come together.

I would like to see this happen also, but can it?
Prior to 9/11 Al Qaeda never put more than ten thousand fighters through their base camps. Then we stupidly took the bait and decided to "beat" them. Now its like 12 years later and we face 100 thousand fighters in the IS splinter group alone. The jihadists hold territory in north Africa, Indonesia, the middle east, Nigeria, The Sahel, central Asia, etc. They are stronger than ever and, IMO, it is no longer correct to refer to them all as terrorists. This is a global movement phenomenon. I'm not convinced we can beat them via fighting.

It was a good way to smoke the rats out from their pretend 'we are not racist' 'we are religion of peace' bull shit. Now the whole world knows muslims for what they are.

Try to look at it from long view.

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At least he will protect his people, Obama on the other hand cares only about ISIS and the Muslims and illegals. Obama is our worst enemy in America. If Putin or if the Chechen leader are the ones who actually "defeat" ISIS, boy, that will be the ULTIMATE slap in the face to Obama. But, I wouldn't it doubt it happening.

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Quote from: popolite11 on September 05, 2014, 12:59:27 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on September 05, 2014, 12:12:19 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 05, 2014, 11:41:37 AM

The US and Russia may not be best friends, but I welcome Russia's sentiments and wish more countries would follow suit to put an end to ISIS and middle eastern terror groups once and for all.

I agree with you.
In order to stop ISIS, the most dangerous terrorist group in history, everybody should work together, friends and enemies, USA, NATO, EU; Russia and even Iran.

i think its time for all the superpowers to come together.

I would like to see this happen also, but can it?
Prior to 9/11 Al Qaeda never put more than ten thousand fighters through their base camps. Then we stupidly took the bait and decided to "beat" them. Now its like 12 years later and we face 100 thousand fighters in the IS splinter group alone. The jihadists hold territory in north Africa, Indonesia, the middle east, Nigeria, The Sahel, central Asia, etc. They are stronger than ever and, IMO, it is no longer correct to refer to them all as terrorists. This is a global movement phenomenon. I'm not convinced we can beat them via fighting.

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Meanwhile in the real world Obama continues airstrikes against ISIS militants in Iraq while Russia sends weapons to Assad which ISIS takes pictures with.

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They're making too many enemies, I suspect they won't be around for long, I think you're right guys, this might be something that will bring everyone together, I certainly can't stand the shit heads, they remind me too much of some of the people I see around in my own town, In fact they'll probably be the same people going over there to fight.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 05, 2014, 12:12:19 PM

I agree with you.
In order to stop ISIS, the most dangerous terrorist group in history, everybody should work together, friends and enemies, USA, NATO, EU; Russia and even Iran.

You overestimate the threat that ISIS poses. In fact, as of now, it poses very little threat to the West. If anything, it's doing a good job of attracting radicalized Muslims from the West back to their desert hellhole.

Best option would be to stay the heck out of the middle east. Going in there only ever results in far more trouble than it's worth. The only thing we should do is help evacuate and provide humanitarian help for groups under threat of genocide by ISIS (the Yazidi, etc).

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ISIS is not to bright they now have U.S., NATO, Russia, Israel, Kurds just to name a few all ready to bring forth their destruction. They have managed to bring together an alliance of strange bed fellows for a common cause. They may win several battles but in the end they will lose the war.

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