Topic: Islamic State 'beheads second US journalist' (Read 3083 times)
whether the news is true? there should be a study back if the news is true? but what if there is a non-Muslim kills a Muslim but not seheboh this news? whether the media is only in favor of one group only and discredit the other group? where is a journalistic independence, which is always preaching the factual and reliable, hopefully the media not only in favor of one group ...
ISIS has very unreasonable ,
If they uphold Al-Quran , they not do like that..
Their actions outside the way in Al-Quran,Killing is an act accursed for Allah.
Someone must stop them,
Let's pray them stop and gone
If they uphold Al-Quran , they not do like that..
Their actions outside the way in Al-Quran,Killing is an act accursed for Allah.
Someone must stop them,
Let's pray them stop and gone
+1
any updates about these guys? I heard they are now operating in several muslim countries too.
They've spread a bit, controlling more land mass than government-controlled sections in Syria and Iraq, mostly pushing in North Syria, now. They continue to be organized in Sinai and to its West, which they claim as their Levant. NATO & relateds' non-ground military actions in Syria will likely succeed in keeping Assad in power but fail to actually root out ISIL. ISIL continues to hold many Iraqi and Syrian oil fields. However, the US & rest of NATO have been successful in recruiting Kurds and trying to get them on the West's side, great because the Kurds control a good many oil fields and had ambiguous diplomatic goals. NATO's actions will also prevent ISIL from properly taking Syria over and setting up a true government. Turkey still considers what to do with ISIL. ISIL gave an outline of countries they want to take (old-time Levant) which doesn't include Turkey, and given Turkey hates Assad (it's their condition for joining the war against ISIL), Turkey isn't willing to go all-out and burn all ISIL bridges, getting itself involved in a long occupation just yet. -And anyway, ISIL needs to sell its oil at a steep discount -- Turkey is maybe keeping that in mind and wondering if NATO will refuse both to oust Assad and commit ground troops, and maybe they also wonder what the USG would do if Turkey were to negotiate with ISIL.Without (yet another) military occupation, it's basically just a slowly failing quarantine. I'll be surprised if it doesn't turn into a ground war for NATO. US/Turkey diplomacy is what everything's waiting on while ISIL continues pushing out. If it fails, NATO almost has to put boots on the ground and occupy Iraq and Syria. IMO.
any updates about these guys? I heard they are now operating in several muslim countries too.
Beheaded the third british already..
this is a trap, the same one Bin Laden used successfully to cripple America.
they are provoking America intentionally so that they spend another trillion dollars bombing a bunch of people on camels thereby bankrupting America completely.
once the food stamp checks stop coming all they have to do is sit and watch the united states tear itself apart.
they are provoking America intentionally so that they spend another trillion dollars bombing a bunch of people on camels thereby bankrupting America completely.
once the food stamp checks stop coming all they have to do is sit and watch the united states tear itself apart.
ISIS has very unreasonable ,
If they uphold Al-Quran , they not do like that..
Their actions outside the way in Al-Quran,Killing is an act accursed for Allah.
Someone must stop them,
Let's pray them stop and gone
If they uphold Al-Quran , they not do like that..
Their actions outside the way in Al-Quran,Killing is an act accursed for Allah.
Someone must stop them,
Let's pray them stop and gone
Obama will create another war. Just one operation killing the head of the ISIS or an airstrike maybe. I think america should also make a threat.
Killing the ISIS head will not achieve anything. ISIS is not an organization which is concentrated around one individual. In no time the leader will be replaced. Did the US managed to destroy Al Qaeda, after the assassination of Osama bin Laden? If Obama wants to defeat ISIS, then my advice to him will be:
#1. Make sure no financial support reaches the ISIS from Qatar and Saudi Arabia
#2. Make sure that the mercenaries are not able to cross over from Turkey to Syria (right now the Turkish authorities are allowing this, as the ISIS is fighting Kurds as well)
#3. Revoke the citizenship of all those European / American / Australian mercenaries fighting for ISIS and freeze their assets
#4. Give weapons and training to secular groups which are fighting the ISIS, such as the Peshmerga
#5. Use air strikes to destroy the ISIS heavy weaponry.
I dont know what Obama is cooking right now. 2 innocent foreign are dead because of this thing called freedom. Obama should move now. He said he is not threatened by it but still he should strike back now.
May be Obama is thinking that the ISIS pose no threat to mainland US and therefore he doesn't need to bother about them. Also, his term will come to an end in 2-years time. He don't want to tarnish his reputation by undertaking another war, causing thousands of American casualties. But what will happen if the ISIS launch a terror attack in the mainland US?
Obama will create another war. Just one operation killing the head of the ISIS or an airstrike maybe. I think america should also make a threat.
I imagine he'll probably start dying his hair soon... wouldn't want to look weak.
Maybe a day of airstrikes in their region and blame it to russia.
I dont know what Obama is cooking right now. 2 innocent foreign are dead because of this thing called freedom. Obama should move now. He said he is not threatened by it but still he should strike back now.
May be Obama is thinking that the ISIS pose no threat to mainland US and therefore he doesn't need to bother about them. Also, his term will come to an end in 2-years time. He don't want to tarnish his reputation by undertaking another war, causing thousands of American casualties. But what will happen if the ISIS launch a terror attack in the mainland US?
Obama will create another war. Just one operation killing the head of the ISIS or an airstrike maybe. I think america should also make a threat.
Anyway, I've been wondering if these recent killings of American journalists have anything to do with the theories going around now which purport that ISIS is backed by the US. I actually like to see theories, not because I think they're true or because I want them to be true, rather I like what it means for ISIS' hopes of eventually uniting all of Sunni Islam under one banner.
lol... how can anyone claim that the ISIS was created by the US, when they have already declared that their no.1 enemy is the United States? The parent organization of the ISIS is Al Qaeda, which is again an anti-US setup. All of the ISIS leaders are having long histories of Al Qaeda activity. So if the ISIS is indeed created by the US, then we will have to say that the Al Qaeda is also an invention of the Americans.
It's quite the clusterfuck when you look into it.
But I don't see Obama as having military adventurism in his hope chest. He may well be stuck with it, though. I hope he finds a good solution, although I'm not overly optimistic, because as I've mentioned before, I find his negotiation/diplomacy skills to be his weakest suit. I tend to believe he wants to steer the US towards a less intrusive foreign policy, but his timing just hasn't worked out. Events sometimes force policy.
Anyway, I've been wondering if these recent killings of American journalists have anything to do with the theories going around now which purport that ISIS is backed by the US. I actually like to see theories, not because I think they're true or because I want them to be true, rather I like what it means for ISIS' hopes of eventually uniting all of Sunni Islam under one banner. But I don't see Obama as having military adventurism in his hope chest. He may well be stuck with it, though. I hope he finds a good solution, although I'm not overly optimistic, because as I've mentioned before, I find his negotiation/diplomacy skills to be his weakest suit. I tend to believe he wants to steer the US towards a less intrusive foreign policy, but his timing just hasn't worked out. Events sometimes force policy.
The only thing even partially logical is your perspective on a "less intrusive foreign policy". Increased economic sanctions and the aforementioned raid/airstrike aspects tend to support that notion.
I know you're big on the presidency as a bully pulpit but I do not believe that this is a view which is really compatible with the state of the union, the state of technology, etc.; for a lot of the same reasons, I do not consider myself an advocate for democracy. Especially now. This is very sad. Unfortunately, this will keep happening until ISIS is stopped.
Or, when obama is no longer president.
This seems more like a protracted hostage situation, with 'no more air strikes' being the demand that if not fulfilled, leads to another dead hostage. This framing of the situation does target the president directly, but not because he is Obama: the president is the only person who can 'stop' the next murder.Or, when obama is no longer president.
There really is only one way any president should respond to this. In public anyway.
Oh, I believe that the airstrikes shouldn't be stopped. I think obama actually should bomb more, because if he doesn't, ISIS is going to grow, and more journalists beheaded.
Or may be another good idea would be to give a few second hand bomber jets (albeit temporarily) to the Kurdish Peshmerga. Also, how he will bomb the ISIS positions within Syria? The Syrian government will not give permission for the US jets to enter its sovereign territory, and in case if the US does that then they will face a lot of heat in the UN.
ISIS is savage and cruel. They must be stopped at all costs.
Another US journalist (Steven Sotlof) killed by the IS. Appears to have been murdered by the same individual.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...156273317.html
They are not humans but animals.If they are against the western government why don't they just ask for a direct war and see what is gonna happen to them.These bastards must be cut into pieces and feed their pieces to vultures. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...156273317.html
It's quite the clusterfuck when you look into it.
But I don't see Obama as having military adventurism in his hope chest. He may well be stuck with it, though. I hope he finds a good solution, although I'm not overly optimistic, because as I've mentioned before, I find his negotiation/diplomacy skills to be his weakest suit. I tend to believe he wants to steer the US towards a less intrusive foreign policy, but his timing just hasn't worked out. Events sometimes force policy.
But I don't see Obama as having military adventurism in his hope chest. He may well be stuck with it, though. I hope he finds a good solution, although I'm not overly optimistic, because as I've mentioned before, I find his negotiation/diplomacy skills to be his weakest suit. I tend to believe he wants to steer the US towards a less intrusive foreign policy, but his timing just hasn't worked out. Events sometimes force policy.
The only thing even partially logical is your perspective on a "less intrusive foreign policy". Increased economic sanctions and the aforementioned raid/airstrike aspects tend to support that notion.
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