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Quote from: shinratensei_ on April 21, 2024, 09:15:21 AM

well indeed some people out there are quite judgemental, even though its absolutely fine working 9-5 not all people are cut it for entrepreneurship some just want to work and enjoy life.
for those kind of people pursuing career by working 9-5 is nothing wrong, they enjoy it too, after all entrepreneurship or even investment is more difficult than what it seems.

I've seen plenty of people that enjoy working 9-5 because they just love the job themselves and willing to go work overtime and be fine with it even without increase in salary over the course of the year committing to the company they worked in and be fine with it, sometime life is not all about salary and I do agree, do whatever we find pleasing.

also, this rat race thing is just not really a thing, some people that thinks they are in a rat race working 9-5 simply put just don't enjoy their lives, they are too fixated in earning money that they forgot that there are something more than earning money, of course i could be wrong in this regard but at least thats what I viewed so far.

A lot depends on what job you work in, in what country, and so on. You can work 8 hours a day to earn much more than the average entrepreneur earns, and you don’t have to worry about paying taxes, and many other issues that an entrepreneur must think about constantly, even during non-working hours.

There are positive and negative sides to every business, some people like to be an entrepreneur, others find it easier to go to work and get paid, but I first mentioned that it matters where you work, because in one country the salary can be 500 dollars, and in another 5,000 dollars, that’s the whole difference, but the country’s standard of living will most likely allow you to live with an average salary, and the person will decide for himself whether this is enough for him, or whether he wants more.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on April 19, 2024, 06:24:52 PM

Xcode7, I can boldly tell you that so many people love to be slaves, lol, funny how it sounds but that is the true. I am still a student and so many occasions that me and some other fellow students were having conversations about what they want to achieve after graduating from the university but the response of some students suggests that they want to be slave for the rest of their life, either to the government or to a private firm. Most students wants to wants to get a job in big companies and some wants to get a government work so that they can be getting pension after they retired but what do I want? I want to own my own company, I want to employ people too so they they can work for me and would be happy if that can come to light.

When you have a desire like that it can also give rise to different judgments in the eyes of other people because you also want to enslave other people to work for your company so that you can feel pleasure from it, right? Even though it is based on their own desires, I don't think it is necessary to say that they are slaves because they also want to try with the version that they themselves understand in their life. So there is no need to hope that other people can have the same desires as you because everyone has different desires and this can also change over time or when your friends have graduated from that university.

In terms of what you say, it's good, but it's only good for yourself, even though in general you also have room to help other people by giving them work. But when you say that people who work for other people are slaves, it will also lead to yourself wanting to employ other people in your company so that it gives the impression that you also want to make other people your slaves.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on April 18, 2024, 01:32:22 PM

I find it amusing when people talk about not being a slave to the 9-5 workday, the "working rats" or whatever they call it. How else is someone supposed to support themselves then? The way I see it, yes, it's all about the money, but if you do something you truly like or love, then everything else seems to fall in place. I LOVE what I do for a living, and it makes my life that much better because I'm making money and enjoying what I do, so I don't feel like I'm a part of the "rat race".

well indeed some people out there are quite judgemental, even though its absolutely fine working 9-5 not all people are cut it for entrepreneurship some just want to work and enjoy life.
for those kind of people pursuing career by working 9-5 is nothing wrong, they enjoy it too, after all entrepreneurship or even investment is more difficult than what it seems.

I've seen plenty of people that enjoy working 9-5 because they just love the job themselves and willing to go work overtime and be fine with it even without increase in salary over the course of the year committing to the company they worked in and be fine with it, sometime life is not all about salary and I do agree, do whatever we find pleasing.

also, this rat race thing is just not really a thing, some people that thinks they are in a rat race working 9-5 simply put just don't enjoy their lives, they are too fixated in earning money that they forgot that there are something more than earning money, of course i could be wrong in this regard but at least thats what I viewed so far.

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Quote from: junder on April 19, 2024, 03:40:42 PM

and if they don't have a job then they could become slaves to people who have money to carry out their orders and their goal is to get money so they can continue their life,

Wow that is such a capitalistic statement. To say that there is no other choice but for us to be enslaved by those richer than us is quite unmotivating to be honest. Lots of people myself included wouldn’t want to spend the rest of our lives being tied to our bosses and their silly orders that are sometimes dehumanizing.

There are other ways to succeed in life without having to sacrifice your own pride.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on April 19, 2024, 06:24:52 PM

Quote from: Xcode7 on April 19, 2024, 04:55:14 AM

But not everyone has the opportunity and can do that.
Sometimes circumstances force them to do things just for money and make it difficult for them to get out of the circle of slavery.
Loving what we do and getting results or money from it is everyone's dream, but it all comes back to opportunity and also people's ability to make it happen.
And finally it cannot be denied that people will be forced to do many things just for money, in order to continue their life.

Xcode7, I can boldly tell you that so many people love to be slaves, lol, funny how it sounds but that is the true. I am still a student and so many occasions that me and some other fellow students were having conversations about what they want to achieve after graduating from the university but the response of some students suggests that they want to be slave for the rest of their life, either to the government or to a private firm. Most students wants to wants to get a job in big companies and some wants to get a government work so that they can be getting pension after they retired but what do I want? I want to own my own company, I want to employ people too so they they can work for me and would be happy if that can come to light.

It's true that most people want a job that can give them an income throughout their life and receive a retirement salary from where they work and I don't think there's anything wrong with this, but that type of person will find it very difficult to develop and they can only get one income. to be able to fulfill their needs and for those who like challenges of course they will try something that interests them and if they are successful in that field of course this will enable them to enjoy the results of what they have done.

If you want to open a company, of course this is very possible because you are still young and still have the opportunity to learn about the business you are starting and will be able to build the business by employing other people and I am very sure you will be successful in this business.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on April 19, 2024, 04:55:14 AM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on April 18, 2024, 01:32:22 PM

I find it amusing when people talk about not being a slave to the 9-5 workday, the "working rats" or whatever they call it. How else is someone supposed to support themselves then? The way I see it, yes, it's all about the money, but if you do something you truly like or love, then everything else seems to fall in place. I LOVE what I do for a living, and it makes my life that much better because I'm making money and enjoying what I do, so I don't feel like I'm a part of the "rat race".

But not everyone has the opportunity and can do that.
Sometimes circumstances force them to do things just for money and make it difficult for them to get out of the circle of slavery.
Loving what we do and getting results or money from it is everyone's dream, but it all comes back to opportunity and also people's ability to make it happen.
And finally it cannot be denied that people will be forced to do many things just for money, in order to continue their life.

Xcode7, I can boldly tell you that so many people love to be slaves, lol, funny how it sounds but that is the true. I am still a student and so many occasions that me and some other fellow students were having conversations about what they want to achieve after graduating from the university but the response of some students suggests that they want to be slave for the rest of their life, either to the government or to a private firm. Most students wants to wants to get a job in big companies and some wants to get a government work so that they can be getting pension after they retired but what do I want? I want to own my own company, I want to employ people too so they they can work for me and would be happy if that can come to light.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on April 19, 2024, 04:55:14 AM

But not everyone has the opportunity and can do that.
Sometimes circumstances force them to do things just for money and make it difficult for them to get out of the circle of slavery.
Loving what we do and getting results or money from it is everyone's dream, but it all comes back to opportunity and also people's ability to make it happen.
And finally it cannot be denied that people will be forced to do many things just for money, in order to continue their life.

In order to survive, it is clear that everyone needs money to meet their needs, and if they don't have a job then they could become slaves to people who have money to carry out their orders and their goal is to get money so they can continue their life, also of course everyone have their own desires, whether it's something they want, like being able to own the property they dream of or something else, I think everyone can do anything to get money when they don't have any money at all.

with the reality that "you have money, you have power" is real, I feel that, in my environment there is a friend who is famous for being rich with his money and property, many people approach him to get money from him. and because he has a lot of money, he can order people as much as he likes, because he is the one who has the money so he can support his friends around him by treating them all the time or other things. This is not strange because it is real.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on April 18, 2024, 01:32:22 PM

I find it amusing when people talk about not being a slave to the 9-5 workday, the "working rats" or whatever they call it. How else is someone supposed to support themselves then? The way I see it, yes, it's all about the money, but if you do something you truly like or love, then everything else seems to fall in place. I LOVE what I do for a living, and it makes my life that much better because I'm making money and enjoying what I do, so I don't feel like I'm a part of the "rat race".

But not everyone has the opportunity and can do that.
Sometimes circumstances force them to do things just for money and make it difficult for them to get out of the circle of slavery.
Loving what we do and getting results or money from it is everyone's dream, but it all comes back to opportunity and also people's ability to make it happen.
And finally it cannot be denied that people will be forced to do many things just for money, in order to continue their life.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on April 18, 2024, 01:32:22 PM

I find it amusing when people talk about not being a slave to the 9-5 workday, the "working rats" or whatever they call it. How else is someone supposed to support themselves then? The way I see it, yes, it's all about the money, but if you do something you truly like or love, then everything else seems to fall in place. I LOVE what I do for a living, and it makes my life that much better because I'm making money and enjoying what I do, so I don't feel like I'm a part of the "rat race".

Those who do work every day of course hope that the income they will get from this work can support them and everyone who does this work certainly hopes for money, but for those who have a skill and they can do it whenever they like and people Others expect the work to be done, very few people can do it, of course those who need that person's skills must be willing to wait for that person to do what they tell them to do and those who have these skills are very happy to do the work that they and other people do. cannot force them to complete as they wish.

I always advice my friends and household that working is not a bad idea. But everyone should have a skill something that whenever there is a free time one can do it and get more money. Not all work last forever, so it is good to have a backup plan. Because in some worst cases where one is being dropped out of work the skill will be an alternative source of earning until one gets a new job if they really want to work.

What i value most in life is when i see people doing what they have passion for. Like my friend would always say, there are people who loves to work on a daily basis, they have passion for it. If they stay a day without moving out of their house and go to work they are not complete. But only few people understand that doing what you have passion for is what will make you go viral in that field.

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I find it amusing when people talk about not being a slave to the 9-5 workday, the "working rats" or whatever they call it. How else is someone supposed to support themselves then? The way I see it, yes, it's all about the money, but if you do something you truly like or love, then everything else seems to fall in place. I LOVE what I do for a living, and it makes my life that much better because I'm making money and enjoying what I do, so I don't feel like I'm a part of the "rat race".

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Quote from: Marvelockg on February 21, 2024, 07:14:38 AM

What's the essence of all the hustle and bustle and learning and reading and keeping all the sleepless night? Isn't it all about money?

What if I don't want to go through all these process, don't care if I'm a graduate or not or if I'm good at speaking good English or not buth I'm just focused on how to make the money and end up making the money, won't the end justify the means?

All these things are the essence of life, it is something you can't really do without. You must strive to get what you want in life . Life has never been easy . You must work to make it in life, even if you decide not to go university you still need basic education in life. Don't be worried about the struggle of life, this is how life have been designed. Life is just like a structure which you need to develop it . When the foundation of life is faulty it can affect one through our lifetime.

Learning and reading is also a strategy of making, so you don't need to give up too, it is just part of life which you need to succeed.

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It can be said for people like us, people born into disadvantaged families, people from poor countries. Knowledge will be the only key, the only path that leads us to success and the opportunity to escape poverty. We should not be too delusional when comparing ourselves with the world's geniuses. Without knowledge, we will become people of the lowest class in society and have no chance to change our lives.

I feel like people talk down on education just to make themselves feel better about not having an education or just to make an excuse for it. Having a formal education doesn't just teach you to to be good in your particular field, it teaches you how to handle life in general. It broadens your mind, it makes you think outside of the box. It's no secret that people who are educated are more successful than people who aren't educated. When you have an education, it leads to a wire more knowledge.
I understand that the world we live in is evolving and dynamic, but that's the even more reason to get an education.

You see athletes that are already making so much money studying for degrees, musicians and Hollywood stars that are already rich and famous are getting degrees and taking educational courses, yet people who have no money, no fame and no education with down and talk down on education. That's pure delusion.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on April 18, 2024, 06:44:27 AM

Without education you become nothing. Education doesn't just means formal education, I mean you have to keep learning. You can only make money by learning.
People are always quick to point how how this billionaire and this billionaire are colleges dropouts or how they didn't finish high school, but they fail to point how how much knowledge these people accumulate. You can't be whatever you want to be without knowledge.

Acquire Knowledge is the only way to make money. It's when you don't use the knowledge acquired that makes you lack money.
Also, it's not all about money for everybody. Some people just want the knowledge to learn new stuff. There are people that take higher courses and degrees, not because they want to make any money from it but they just want the knowledge to know new things.

Haha, this is the thing I find the funniest every time someone says this. They like to compare themselves to billionaires like Gates or Elon, they believe that the other two billionaires do not need to go to college and have a college degree to still become billionaires. And they thought they could also do what the other two billionaires did, they began to criticize and despise education.

It can be said for people like us, people born into disadvantaged families, people from poor countries. Knowledge will be the only key, the only path that leads us to success and the opportunity to escape poverty. We should not be too delusional when comparing ourselves with the world's geniuses. Without knowledge, we will become people of the lowest class in society and have no chance to change our lives.

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Without education you become nothing. Education doesn't just means formal education, I mean you have to keep learning. You can only make money by learning.
People are always quick to point how how this billionaire and this billionaire are colleges dropouts or how they didn't finish high school, but they fail to point how how much knowledge these people accumulate. You can't be whatever you want to be without knowledge.

Acquire Knowledge is the only way to make money. It's when you don't use the knowledge acquired that makes you lack money.
Also, it's not all about money for everybody. Some people just want the knowledge to learn new stuff. There are people that take higher courses and degrees, not because they want to make any money from it but they just want the knowledge to know new things.

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Quote from: CageMabok on April 12, 2024, 03:26:34 PM

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Money will solve 90% of your problems and make the other 10% easier, when people say its not all that important usually they were born in middleclass or already gave up, keep the hustle.

As long as it can still be used in life, of course it is not appropriate to call it something that is not important even though its use is only to buy the things we need. For me, money is just a bridge to solve some problems that are not that complicated, because on the one hand we all also have to realize that not all problems can be solved with money even though money can be used as a bridge to make it easier for us to solve problems. But the main point is that it must still be considered important as long as it can still be used in our own lives.

I completely agree with you. Money is just a means of solving problems, and let it solve many of the problems, but not all of them. For example, parenting: they won't grow up to be good people if you just give them money and ask them to "play somewhere else." They need to be engaged, showing them their positive qualities.
And these qualities are developed only if you work hard on yourself, overcome difficulties and proudly walk the path of life. That is, in addition to money, you need to be able to work on yourself and be an example.

And someone who knows nothing but how to make money is rather a pathetic person who will not really receive the real respect of others.

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Quote from: Marvelockg on February 21, 2024, 07:14:38 AM

What's the essence of all the hustle and bustle and learning and reading and keeping all the sleepless night? Isn't it all about money?

What if I don't want to go through all these process, don't care if I'm a graduate or not or if I'm good at speaking good English or not buth I'm just focused on how to make the money and end up making the money, won't the end justify the means?

I sometimes feel that some of these ideal process that has been accepted by the majority of the people in the society as a part to be taken to greatness is too complex. I mean, we can just learn how to read and write and focus on how to make money. Those who want to become engineers can choose to do so but those that don't want to pass through those route shouldn't be seen as less of a person because at the end of the day, it's mostly all about money.

Today most of the people around wanted to go to school to learn or become a professional to have an stable job with a stable salary in the near future, because they know how hard to earn money if we don't have a good job, in my country before we can get job we need to have a higher education we cannot get a good work if we are only high school graduate so before we can focus on making money we need to have a good education first, even if we do business we still need a good education because writing and reading is not enough we also need to be good on mathematics, calculation, strategy, ways on how to improve business. Everything is all about money we we work hard wake up early etc. to earn money but education is a good way yo earn money.

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Quote from: Marvelockg on February 21, 2024, 07:14:38 AM

What if I don't want to go through all these process, don't care if I'm a graduate or not or if I'm good at speaking good English or not buth I'm just focused on how to make the money and end up making the money, won't the end justify the means?

If this is easy as you said then no one will go to school to graduate and build their career path just to get a job. You’re right that everyone is busting their asses to earn money so with your suggestion is being lazy and magically earn money by competing to others that have a better education to you?

There’s some people that really become rich with even graduated but most of them have brilliant mind. So if you think that you are like then you can skip school and build your own business and company but there’s no way to achieve that if you are just a regular person just like the majority that’s why getting a bachelors degree is the common path because it’s easy to get a job having this qualification rather than nothing.

Knowing something through learning to read and so on is a self-concept so as not to be deceived by other people, after that we will know all the problems that exist, with knowledge we can also get a decent job, and as a result get something called money. There are also people who don't have knowledge or education, that doesn't mean they can't get money, they can also get money in their own way, they have other skills, there are even rich people who come from people who dropped out of school but they realize that to earn money so that he becomes rich by working, whatever the work is, the important thing is that it does not conflict with other people and is halal.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on April 15, 2024, 10:45:18 AM

Indeed, having skills does not guarantee that we will be rich, but at least if we are skilled and able to master the field we are working in, then we will always be able to make a profit, even if it is not much. However, what you say is also true, that we must continue to develop the abilities we have, and combine the skills we have with other skills. So that we can maximize the business and profits obtained.

That's true, even though we have good skills, it doesn't guarantee that it will make us rich, especially if we have a sense of laziness that can't be eliminated. In my opinion, if we have skills then we should be able to utilize them by developing them slowly, which may feel boring at first because as you said it can produce profits even if it's not much, but I myself believe in "effort that will not betray the results". If we really want a comfortable life then the choice is in our own hands to determine, what's more, everyone needs money to survive or for other things, with current developments that are increasingly sophisticated we must be able to make the best use of it.

There is no instant success, of course everything starts with small things that are done well and can then grow wider, just believe that when there is someone who is satisfied with our results or skills, word of mouth will spread quickly, especially with current developments. Sophisticated technology makes everything easier, such as communication, buying and selling, or others. If we can utilize the skills we have and take advantage of technological developments, we can definitely make a profit.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on April 15, 2024, 10:07:45 AM

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How can you be successful in making money when you actually don't know the process of making money? It might be what ever skill or craft, but in other for you to do it well and be successful, you need to learn, either through school if it's a professional course or a craft.

Have a hand work will not ensure you that you will be rich from your hand work, if you don't have the knowledge to make the hand work function well by looking for a good environment where you can communicate to people who speaks English language to advertise their products to grow financially. I have seen many people that learned crafts before to established their business, and later discovered that they need to go back to school to study the course to become a professional not to remain in hand work only that to have some document to back their professional career up.

Indeed, having skills does not guarantee that we will be rich, but at least if we are skilled and able to master the field we are working in, then we will always be able to make a profit, even if it is not much. However, what you say is also true, that we must continue to develop the abilities we have, and combine the skills we have with other skills. So that we can maximize the business and profits obtained.

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how do you think that business can survive in difficult time? See it's very wrong to skip the learning process because if you do, in the nearest future you will surely pay for it due to incompetence or mismanagement of fund , because you were not trained or educated in the craft.

The business will collapse, when you don't have the knowledge or capacity to grow the business higher because business is just like a new born baby that will start growing with the knowledge of her mother, until the child will be mature which is likewise business, you grow business until it start bringing money to the owner, because you have taken your time to study and learned to acquire skills that will help you to accumulate profits from your business.

Once again, what you say is true, that the knowledge and skills that have been acquired are one of the main factors for someone to be able to manage, develop and maintain their business well. However, stating that a business will immediately collapse without the knowledge to develop it, is a picture that is too black and white and too narrow, because in my opinion the world of business is not that narrow. because there are still many factors that can influence the success or failure of a business.

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How can you be successful in making money when you actually don't know the process of making money? It might be what ever skill or craft, but in other for you to do it well and be successful, you need to learn, either through school if it's a professional course or a craft.

Have a hand work will not ensure you that you will be rich from your hand work, if you don't have the knowledge to make the hand work function well by looking for a good environment where you can communicate to people who speaks English language to advertise their products to grow financially. I have seen many people that learned crafts before to established their business, and later discovered that they need to go back to school to study the course to become a professional not to remain in hand work only that to have some document to back their professional career up.

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how do you think that business can survive in difficult time? See it's very wrong to skip the learning process because if you do, in the nearest future you will surely pay for it due to incompetence or mismanagement of fund , because you were not trained or educated in the craft.

The business will collapse, when you don't have the knowledge or capacity to grow the business higher because business is just like a new born baby that will start growing with the knowledge of her mother, until the child will be mature which is likewise business, you grow business until it start bringing money to the owner, because you have taken your time to study and learned to acquire skills that will help you to accumulate profits from your business.

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