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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 26, 2024, 05:25:35 AM

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Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. Cheesy

I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

Bivol and Beterbiev is also with the same attitude, probably it's mostly American that really trash talk to sell the fights. Manny Pacquiao during his prime didn't trash talk even if he understand everything in English. And mostly this boxers rely on this fight to do the talking.

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 26, 2024, 05:25:35 AM

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

True, Bud's counter is underrated, but we have seen it in many of his fights, that he can read his opponents and then adjust during the fight, similar to Floyd. Madrimov hasn't seen a fighter in Bud's caliber so he might be in for a big surprised when he can't land his power punches, specially his jumping left hook.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 26, 2024, 05:25:35 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 25, 2024, 06:38:29 AM

Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. Cheesy

I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

Or maybe there is also this language barrier? I do agree though, I remember the Maidana vs Broner, wherein Broner was really trash talking, but Maidana didn't bite anything as obviously he didn't understand what Broner is saying but it's way below the belt. But it was the classic example of trash talking gone wrong, Lol.

I think Bud will have no problems at 154 lbs, although with just eye balling Madrimov, he looks bigger and stronger. But I think Bud will figure him out in about 2-3 rounds and then go counter all night and I wouldn't be surprised that he will utilized his upper-cut here.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 25, 2024, 06:38:29 AM

Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. Cheesy

I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

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Quote from: yazher on April 25, 2024, 07:16:03 AM

It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.

This is a good fight for Terrence Crawford, new set of challenge and so another belt will he is, here is the highlight of Madrimov vs Kurbanov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiQ4ko1yciM

You'll the judge if he has a chance against Crawford or not. But for me, Crawford is still in his prime and so I doubt that the style of tools Madrimov have is enough to defeat even if this is 154 lbs. So good choice of Crawford to fight him, just like when Manny is going up in weight, careful match making of the champion and then Manny will just walk down the champion and annexed their belt.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2024, 08:21:13 AM

Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.

and this is also good for his career because he needs to grow now and this fight will give him
more popularity and yeah may face bigger names in the future once he make this win favoring him.

Quote from: yazher on April 25, 2024, 07:16:03 AM

It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.

yup, as he is growing older he needs to add more flavor to His career readying for the future.
Will also vote for Crawford in this fight though.

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Quote from: Text on April 25, 2024, 08:36:25 AM

It's not uncommon for promoters to support or hype their fighters and angle the narrative in their favor to make the fights more interesting, it’s part of the business. He can be a bit biased towards his fighters, but he does bring up some good points. The size difference is significant, and we haven't seen Crawford at 154 before. Madrimov's power is no joke either.

I do agree, but as boxing fans, we haven't heard of Madrimov, although as per Eddie Hearn he had a fight in Saudi and it's impressive. But common, if he is that hype we have heard his name at 154 lbs already. What size difference? Crawford might be walking around 154 lbs off season so there is no problem with the weight and the power here. You can said the same with Errol Spence power, it's no joke but Crawford knock him out.

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Crawford's experience and technical skills are undeniable, but age and weight class can be factors. It'll be interesting to see how his speed and power translate at 154. He has consistently shown his skill and adaptability in the ring, but moving up in weight class always brings new challenges. Madrimov, being undefeated and holding the WBA title, is no pushover either.

For me that's not much any difference to be honest, As I have said, 154 lbs could be Crawford's comfortable weight, no need to drain himself to 147 lbs. While Madrimov still needs to go down to that weight and diet. But we will see, for sure though, Crawford will be the favorite even if he is the challenger here.

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It's not uncommon for promoters to support or hype their fighters and angle the narrative in their favor to make the fights more interesting, it’s part of the business. He can be a bit biased towards his fighters, but he does bring up some good points. The size difference is significant, and we haven't seen Crawford at 154 before. Madrimov's power is no joke either.

Crawford's experience and technical skills are undeniable, but age and weight class can be factors. It'll be interesting to see how his speed and power translate at 154. He has consistently shown his skill and adaptability in the ring, but moving up in weight class always brings new challenges. Madrimov, being undefeated and holding the WBA title, is no pushover either.

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It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.

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^^ But you really have to give it to Eddie Hearn for promoting Israil Madrimov and saying that he is the best 154 lbs. Lol. Same with Crawford but here's the big difference between Ryan and other boxers are fa as hyping the fight so that the fans are eager to see it. Here, just the boring talks of how good are each other, like the power, speed and the footwork.

But not sure if this will entice the boxing fans to watch this fight. And most likely this is what Bob Arum says when he was still promoting Crawford is that it's hard to see Terence fight because of this kind of promotions, sort of close to say that it is boring.

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Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on April 24, 2024, 11:58:19 PM

The best fight on this stacked card might be Tim Tszyu vs. Vergil Ortiz. Ortiz was once considered one of the most promising prospects and was ranked #1 by the WBO, where Crawford was champion, and was also WBA mandatory. Unfortunately, his career was derailed by weight problems and health issues. Tszyu has proven to be a great fighter and will probably be favored, but if Ortiz can reach the potential many believed he had then he is capable of overcoming those odds.

Hopefully we can finally see Vergil Ortiz again, he has a promising career because health issues took over. Not sure if he is still in his prime though, but him and Tszyu will be crazy fight.

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on April 24, 2024, 11:58:19 PM

For the main event, this is another nondescript Crawford opponent who looks good on paper but we have yet to see him tested at an elite level. I expect it to be a typical Crawford fight, where he might start slow but becomes increasingly more dominant as the rounds pass and he makes adjustments.

Yes, and it's obvious that this is just a get busy fight for Crawford, just to make his body and mind active and instead of waiting for Spence or even a hypothetical Canelo fight, he might as well accept this fight, take the purse and the money, easy fight for him and so his hype is going to continue.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 24, 2024, 08:15:11 AM

Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It is head scratching that you are listening to Eddie Hearn's speculation. He is the promoter and owner of Matchroom boxing where Madromov is signed. Eddie Hearn is only doing this lying to hype his fighter Madrimov heheheh. Bud Crawford is the pound for pound, no.1, very best boxer in the whole world. I predict that this will be Crawford victory with a knockout before round 10.

@FinneysTrueVision. Agreed. This is a difficult challenge for Tim Tszyu after losing his championship with a split decsion. I reckon he should have a rematch or fight someone who does not have a chance to win against him hehehhe. Ortiz cannot be underestimated.

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The best fight on this stacked card might be Tim Tszyu vs. Vergil Ortiz. Ortiz was once considered one of the most promising prospects and was ranked #1 by the WBO, where Crawford was champion, and was also WBA mandatory. Unfortunately, his career was derailed by weight problems and health issues. Tszyu has proven to be a great fighter and will probably be favored, but if Ortiz can reach the potential many believed he had then he is capable of overcoming those odds.

For the main event, this is another nondescript Crawford opponent who looks good on paper but we have yet to see him tested at an elite level. I expect it to be a typical Crawford fight, where he might start slow but becomes increasingly more dominant as the rounds pass and he makes adjustments.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 24, 2024, 08:15:11 AM

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

This is always true to almost every match. They always make it appear as if they are a close fight, as if they aren't lop-sided. But, at the end of the day, if you look at the odds released by the experts, which will also eventually reflect the flow of money from bettors, it will become clear how a fight like this isn't actually as close as they make it appear. Well, that's marketing and lifting one's fighter, but that won't count in the end.

Madrimov isn't a tested and proven fighter yet. He isn't even that powerful. Crawford might not have fought yet at 154 but it was already his intention way back then to move up. He even revealed how he had a hard time making weight at 147 during their Spence match.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 24, 2024, 08:15:11 AM

Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It's because this fight is at 154 lbs and we haven't seen Crawford at this weight class and so Eddie Hearn doubt Crawford to win this fight. But we all know that this is just to promote this fight.

I think Crawford will still be good at 154 lbs, it's just 7 lbs about his usual weight class and maybe at fight night in the Spence fight, he could be very well above 150 lbs. It's just that Eddie Hearn is exaggerating things and already selling this fight for the boxing fans.

Lately, Hearns has been saying a lot of stupid things like he thinks the match between Garcia and Haney is a draw and now Crawford will have a hard time beating Madrimov, after proving himself against Spence, of course, he wants fans to think that Crawford is still beatable of course he can be upset but doubting Crawford power and skill is another story.

I prefer to call his analysis stupid analysis than try to hype the fight.
After Crawford knocks out Madrimov Hearns will make another alibi about his opinion of Crawford just like he did on Garcia.

It's normal for Eddie to support his own fighters like when he supported Haney against Ryan. Madrimov is another champion under Matchroom. At least Eddie is pointing valid points like the size and the punching power. And as Baofeng mentioned, we are yet to see how Crawford performs at 154. Crawford might be 160 on fight night in his previous fights but Madrimov could be 175 on fight night. We'll see if Crawford still has enough power and speed at 36 and fighting bigger guys.

Here is the press conference. The fight is happening in LA but it is part of Saudi's ventures in the sport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

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^ It will not be a big problem for Terrence to climb up since he has been in WW for a long time defending that title. It's even a wonder why he didn't move up like he had been wasting time over this division when he could have made it up when he was in his early 30s.

Still good to see a rematch against Spence. Madrimov is a good entry fight in this division, it's best to move up after if he is aiming big money fights since it is where they are. Maybe Charlo or Canelo next.

Saw a tweet this isn't in Saudi but in LA this August 3?

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2024, 08:21:13 AM

Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.

After he decisively beats Spence he will be the heavy favorite against boxers who are not considered elite and this includes both Madrimov and Fundora, Terrence Crawford is getting wiser he is still undefeated and father time will soon catch him so it is better to protect his record for a big payday in future that is why he avoids Ennis.

Great fights are lining up for Crawford he can challenge any or both the Charlo brothers, and who knows we might end up seeing Crawford challenging Canelo in the future.

Crawford is on a journey to greatness and it's the right decision to move I believe he can take his power and maintain his speed in 154 he might end up wiping the 154 division just like he did in the Welterweight division.

The Spence that he best is not the same Spence on his prime before his major accident occurred. Spence punch is lighter compared before that’s why Crawford manage to easily beat because his punch is not giving much weight to hurt Crawford.

Comparing Spence to the current Champion to a higher division is not the right thing to do because chasing higher division is always a hard task due to the weight adjustment. This is the reason why only few boxers manage to conquer multiple division especially on the middleweight part or higher because they are facing natural big frame for that weight class while they boost their weight just to qualify that might affect their speed during the adjustment.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2024, 08:21:13 AM

Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.

After he decisively beats Spence he will be the heavy favorite against boxers who are not considered elite and this includes both Madrimov and Fundora, Terrence Crawford is getting wiser he is still undefeated and father time will soon catch him so it is better to protect his record for a big payday in future that is why he avoids Ennis.

Great fights are lining up for Crawford he can challenge any or both the Charlo brothers, and who knows we might end up seeing Crawford challenging Canelo in the future.

Crawford is on a journey to greatness and it's the right decision to move I believe he can take his power and maintain his speed in 154 he might end up wiping the 154 division just like he did in the Welterweight division.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 24, 2024, 08:15:11 AM

Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It's because this fight is at 154 lbs and we haven't seen Crawford at this weight class and so Eddie Hearn doubt Crawford to win this fight. But we all know that this is just to promote this fight.

I think Crawford will still be good at 154 lbs, it's just 7 lbs about his usual weight class and maybe at fight night in the Spence fight, he could be very well above 150 lbs. It's just that Eddie Hearn is exaggerating things and already selling this fight for the boxing fans.

Lately, Hearns has been saying a lot of stupid things like he thinks the match between Garcia and Haney is a draw and now Crawford will have a hard time beating Madrimov, after proving himself against Spence, of course, he wants fans to think that Crawford is still beatable of course he can be upset but doubting Crawford power and skill is another story.

I prefer to call his analysis stupid analysis than try to hype the fight.
After Crawford knocks out Madrimov Hearns will make another alibi about his opinion of Crawford just like he did on Garcia.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 24, 2024, 08:15:11 AM

Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It's because this fight is at 154 lbs and we haven't seen Crawford at this weight class and so Eddie Hearn doubt Crawford to win this fight. But we all know that this is just to promote this fight.

I think Crawford will still be good at 154 lbs, it's just 7 lbs about his usual weight class and maybe at fight night in the Spence fight, he could be very well above 150 lbs. It's just that Eddie Hearn is exaggerating things and already selling this fight for the boxing fans.

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