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Quote from: Kemarit on August 02, 2024, 02:23:53 AM

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It's fight week already and the WBA champion, Israil Madrimov is not backing down to the challenge of being the first to beat Terrence Crawford. Madrimov not just wanted to beat Crawford but he wants to win in style. Terrence Crawford of course is expecting another achievement on his already legendary career by becoming a 4 division world champion after fight night.

And if we look at the betting lines, the over and under is 10.5. And the odds are very appealing already as it is above 1.8x. It's just a matter on how we see Crawford winning this fight. Will he go early and try to force himself and look for the knockout right away? Or uses his technical abilities with his jabs and feints and set traps?

We all know how intelligent Crawford is, he wouldn't be this great if he don't know how to uses his abilities. And yeah, another belt for him and it will make him a 4x world champion, from lightweight to welterweight, including the undisputed championship at light welterweight and welterweight.

I'm sure he will be very patient and size up his opponents until he figures out the right time to knock them out. Terrence Crawford is one of the most patient boxers I've seen; he is not in a hurry and will give enough time to figure you out, but when he does, he will lay a perfect execution to beat his opponent.

That's exactly what he did against Spence; he had matured to be a highly technical boxer, which is why I like him to face Canelo, so we'll know who is the best technician.
This early, I would like to congratulate Terrence. He will be a four-division champion and is still getting better.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 31, 2024, 08:37:17 AM

It's fight week already and the WBA champion, Israil Madrimov is not backing down to the challenge of being the first to beat Terrence Crawford. Madrimov not just wanted to beat Crawford but he wants to win in style. Terrence Crawford of course is expecting another achievement on his already legendary career by becoming a 4 division world champion after fight night.

And if we look at the betting lines, the over and under is 10.5. And the odds are very appealing already as it is above 1.8x. It's just a matter on how we see Crawford winning this fight. Will he go early and try to force himself and look for the knockout right away? Or uses his technical abilities with his jabs and feints and set traps?

We all know how intelligent Crawford is, he wouldn't be this great if he don't know how to uses his abilities. And yeah, another belt for him and it will make him a 4x world champion, from lightweight to welterweight, including the undisputed championship at light welterweight and welterweight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 31, 2024, 08:37:17 AM

It's fight week already and the WBA champion, Israil Madrimov is not backing down to the challenge of being the first to beat Terrence Crawford. Madrimov not just wanted to beat Crawford but he wants to win in style. Terrence Crawford of course is expecting another achievement on his already legendary career by becoming a 4 division world champion after fight night.

Yes, and it's interesting to see that Crawford is bigger than Madrimov in their face-off. I thought that Madrimov as natural 154 lbs should be the bigger guy,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRc6Oc6hRw

That death stare of Crawford is scary to watch. So I will go with Crawford here in this fight, I will wait for more interesting betting lines though. I'm looking for Crawford to soften up Madrimov early and then going for a kill in the middle of the rounds. Sort of like what he did against Spence Jr, he will try to read what he can offer and then counter in the body and head later for a knockout win.

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Meanwhile, Saudi's Turki Alalshikh continues to lure Canelo Alvarez into a mega-fight with Terrence Crawford. We'll see if that happens as the money is pretty sure not a problem to stage the fight.

I think it's not the question whether he can bait the hen here, it's the amount of the bait that HE Turki Alalshikh can offer to Canelo. It was reported that Canelo is looking like for $150 million to fight Crawford in Saudi. So we will see that, and for sure HE Turki Alalshikh bag is deep.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 07, 2024, 09:40:26 AM

I'm sure he is looking for a Canelo fight, I hope Canelo also has Crawford in his mind, it's hard for these two greats to not face in the ring because they have a claim for the greatest boxer of this era.
Crawford never declined any challenge, we can't say the same with Canelo who is just cherry-picking his opponents before heading for retirement.

The most obvious problem with the Canelo vs Crawford fight would be that Canelo fights at 168 lbs while Crawford is at 154 lbs, may not seem the most massive difference but it's there's a huge gap. Crawford may seem to never decline any challenges but he's for sure not naive enough to rushed head-first into things. If Crawford looks at Canelo and sees a guy he believes he can beat, and get motivated to bulk up he for sure can outbox Canelo.

But I see Canelo using his power advantage and using straight punches along with those nasty body shots to KO Crawford. Canelo's strategy will always relied on his explosive raw strength, although there's a 14 lbs difference, Canelo were made for its durability. Crawford's thing is counters and timing, but Canelo is one of the most defensive responsible boxers in sport and that would be a major fact if Crawford stay in his old style.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 08, 2024, 09:37:41 PM

How I wish Canelo would just accept Saudi's offer to fight Crawford. It's not necessary to happen in Saudi anyways if Canelo does not want to go to the desert. Because Alalshikh and his team are willing to host even outside of their country and this card where Crawford is headlining is their first and there's more to come for sure. But Canelo already said, no amount of money can move his decisions. I don't know why Canelo does not want this, he already ducked Benavidez but somehow he does not want to hear people saying he beat a blown up welterweight. I honestly see the Mexican superstar stopping Crawford and I hate it to be honest but a part of me wanted to see this fight happening.

I don’t see Crawford beating Canelo either. Canelo will just weight bully his way to victory. He doesn’t have many option though. Benavidez and Morrell were forced to go up another weight class due to Canelo avoiding them. I consider Berlanga a Rolly Romero level opponent, who lucked his way into a major fight because of the influence of his promoter. Crawford is at least a step up from that, even if he is much smaller.

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It's fight week already and the WBA champion, Israil Madrimov is not backing down to the challenge of being the first to beat Terrence Crawford. Madrimov not just wanted to beat Crawford but he wants to win in style. Terrence Crawford of course is expecting another achievement on his already legendary career by becoming a 4 division world champion after fight night.

Meanwhile, Saudi's Turki Alalshikh continues to lure Canelo Alvarez into a mega-fight with Terrence Crawford. We'll see if that happens as the money is pretty sure not a problem to stage the fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 08, 2024, 09:37:41 PM

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I'm sure he is looking for a Canelo fight, I hope Canelo also has Crawford in his mind, it's hard for these two greats to not face in the ring because they have a claim for the greatest boxer of this era.
Crawford never declined any challenge, we can't say the same with Canelo who is just cherry-picking his opponents before heading for retirement.

How I wish Canelo would just accept Saudi's offer to fight Crawford. It's not necessary to happen in Saudi anyways if Canelo does not want to go to the desert. Because Alalshikh and his team are willing to host even outside of their country and this card where Crawford is headlining is their first and there's more to come for sure. But Canelo already said, no amount of money can move his decisions. I don't know why Canelo does not want this, he already ducked Benavidez but somehow he does not want to hear people saying he beat a blown up welterweight. I honestly see the Mexican superstar stopping Crawford and I hate it to be honest but a part of me wanted to see this fight happening.

That pride of Canelo though, it was already in his favor since he is the heavier fighter, so I don't see any reason why he would not accept that offer. Maybe he really sees Crawford as a tough opponent and anticipates he might struggle in the fight. Canelo has been winning easy fights, but with easier opponents as well. I think it's time for him to take a risk again and fight a quality boxer, a champion boxer like Crawford.

I haven't read how much the offer was, but I'm sure it was a huge amount of money since that promoter usually pays good money, as we can see from the heavyweight fights.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 07, 2024, 09:40:26 AM

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I'm sure he is looking for a Canelo fight, I hope Canelo also has Crawford in his mind, it's hard for these two greats to not face in the ring because they have a claim for the greatest boxer of this era.
Crawford never declined any challenge, we can't say the same with Canelo who is just cherry-picking his opponents before heading for retirement.

How I wish Canelo would just accept Saudi's offer to fight Crawford. It's not necessary to happen in Saudi anyways if Canelo does not want to go to the desert. Because Alalshikh and his team are willing to host even outside of their country and this card where Crawford is headlining is their first and there's more to come for sure. But Canelo already said, no amount of money can move his decisions. I don't know why Canelo does not want this, he already ducked Benavidez but somehow he does not want to hear people saying he beat a blown up welterweight. I honestly see the Mexican superstar stopping Crawford and I hate it to be honest but a part of me wanted to see this fight happening.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 07, 2024, 06:41:17 AM

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I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Possible, that could be his next aim, and make another record if he can unify at 154 lbs as he had done it at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. So in this era, he could be one of the best fighter that we have seen, he has cemented his legacy with that big win against Spence.

But if he really want to put all arguments are rest, yeah, unifying again will be great for him. It could be very challenging though as there are a lot of good boxers in this division with his arch nemesis, Errol Spence, and then Tim Tzsyu and Fundora.

If Terrence is going to do that he should do that in a short period as time is not on his side anymore he is already 36 years old he cannot do what he has done in the past fighting only once a year he should stop fighting low level or tune fight and go straight fighting titlist so he can accomplish his goal to become one of the all-time great.

I'm sure he is looking for a Canelo fight, I hope Canelo also has Crawford in his mind, it's hard for these two greats to not face in the ring because they have a claim for the greatest boxer of this era.
Crawford never declined any challenge, we can't say the same with Canelo who is just cherry-picking his opponents before heading for retirement.

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Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Possible, that could be his next aim, and make another record if he can unify at 154 lbs as he had done it at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. So in this era, he could be one of the best fighter that we have seen, he has cemented his legacy with that big win against Spence.

But if he really want to put all arguments are rest, yeah, unifying again will be great for him. It could be very challenging though as there are a lot of good boxers in this division with his arch nemesis, Errol Spence, and then Tim Tzsyu and Fundora.

He already beat Spence, so he has a higher chance of beating him again.

The thing is, if Spence beats Fundora, that would be like beating Tszyu as well. Among the champions, Spence would then be ranked number one. For now, we just need to see if Spence can become a champion again, so they can prepare for a possible rematch in a unification match. This would still be a big fight, as it's a championship fight like the last time they met.

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Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Possible, that could be his next aim, and make another record if he can unify at 154 lbs as he had done it at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. So in this era, he could be one of the best fighter that we have seen, he has cemented his legacy with that big win against Spence.

But if he really want to put all arguments are rest, yeah, unifying again will be great for him. It could be very challenging though as there are a lot of good boxers in this division with his arch nemesis, Errol Spence, and then Tim Tzsyu and Fundora.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 06, 2024, 05:55:01 AM

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Crawford has proven a lot already and deserved to be the favorite. But maybe 5:1 is just too high, probably because of the money flowing from Crawford and since Madrimov is not that popular. But I am expecting a good fight somehow. This is a good fight for Crawford, a chance to become a 4 division world champion.

Error Spence is rumored to fight WBC/WBO champion Sebastian Fundora. It's easier to make since both are under the PBC umbrella. But upon the withdrawal of Tszyu against Ortiz, he might activate his rematch clause with Fundora. I think Tim will knockout Fundora this time and take back his belt and the WBC.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 06, 2024, 05:55:01 AM

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 06, 2024, 02:29:05 AM

Now that Deontay Wilder lost against Zhang, he is not fighting in this card against hot undefeated prospect Jared Anderson. There were earlier rumors that Zhang is the one that will replace but Martin Bakole is offically the guy that will fight Anderson. This is another great showdown, between two heavyweight prospects and there's a lot of opportunity for the winner.

As for Vergil Ortiz, it seems like he is out of the card. Maybe they're having a hard time finding for Tszyu's replacement. Earlier, Ryan Garcia volunteered and Ortiz was happy to face him. But maybe it was only a bluff by Ryan Garcia to tell his huge fanbase that he is not scared to fight anybody at any weight.

But in any case, Ryan Garcia has a pending case because of his supposedly used of Ostarine, so I doubt that he can just get a fight right now until the decision is handled to him (most likely suspension, for how long, we don't know as of this time).

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

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Now that Deontay Wilder lost against Zhang, he is not fighting in this card against hot undefeated prospect Jared Anderson. There were earlier rumors that Zhang is the one that will replace but Martin Bakole is offically the guy that will fight Anderson. This is another great showdown, between two heavyweight prospects and there's a lot of opportunity for the winner.

As for Vergil Ortiz, it seems like he is out of the card. Maybe they're having a hard time finding for Tszyu's replacement. Earlier, Ryan Garcia volunteered and Ortiz was happy to face him. But maybe it was only a bluff by Ryan Garcia to tell his huge fanbase that he is not scared to fight anybody at any weight.

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Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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Too bad although I was surprised though that he will have a fight with Vergil when he just go to a bloody and messy fight with Fundora and he should have at least a medical suspension for that. And I'm not sure about Vergil Ortiz though, it seems that his career can't really take off with injuries and health issues and fight cancellation, maybe he was jinx or something.

Same here, I think he will have to rest a bit since he just lost to Fundora two months ago. The doctor is right, he needs to follow the order if he still love his career. Doctors are expert on this, they know their job so they will not make a recommendation or disapprove someone to fight without proper examination. Tim Tszyu is really a warrior, he proved that by coming back right away after a loss.

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Anyhow, hopefully they can find a replacement ASAP for Vergil because if I'm not mistaken, this is his debut at 154 lbs and still some time for him to at least become a world champion.

now we are talking about replacement, actually, Sebastian Fundora was just a replacement and yet he beat Tim Tszyu, so Vergil Ortiz Jr could possibly loss in this championship fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 31, 2024, 04:01:14 AM

Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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This was the fight I was most looking to on this card. It was the most evenly matched fight. Outside of this it is mostly showcase fights for the A-side fighters like Crawford and Pitbull Cruz. It is possible that Serhii Bohachuk will step in and fight Vergil Ortiz. Bohachuk will still be a good test for Ortiz.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 31, 2024, 04:01:14 AM

Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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Too bad although I was surprised though that he will have a fight with Vergil when he just go to a bloody and messy fight with Fundora and he should have at least a medical suspension for that. And I'm not sure about Vergil Ortiz though, it seems that his career can't really take off with injuries and health issues and fight cancellation, maybe he was jinx or something.

Anyhow, hopefully they can find a replacement ASAP for Vergil because if I'm not mistaken, this is his debut at 154 lbs and still some time for him to at least become a world champion.

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Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

If Madrimov cannot take Crawford's power shots then he is done. But we'll see. Madrimov is young, undefeated and probably bigger so it's a good test for Bud who's fighting at 154 for the first time. Crawford though has too much experience here except that he is turning 37 this year.

Yes it will be Bud's first time at 154 lbs, but I don't think it will be an issue for him. Perhaps during the fight with Spence he could be very well above 154 lbs during fight night well rehydrated.

Pretty sure Crawford rehydrated to around 160 lbs or more during the Spence fight. But he's most likely smaller in this new division because 154 fighters could reach 170 by fight night. Crawford has the skills and power but giving up too much weight during fight nights is too risky as well.

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At the moment, all the current champions at 154 are yet to defend their belts. I considered ex WBO champ, Tszyu as the best but sadly he suffered a huge cut from an elbow and it cost his belt. So I think all the current champions are at 50/50 against each other.

It was really a huge upset when Fundora won a ugly fight with Tszyu. Maybe they will take a rematch and winner fighting the winner of Crawford vs Madrimov. That will be great for Crawford's legacy as he will get more belts at 154 lbs. But he will be looking for money fight I guess as he is not also getting any younger.

I felt bad for Tim. He was busting Fundora's face in the early rounds. I cannot even remember if Fundora won single round before his elbow opened a huge cut on Tim's head.

There's supposed to be an issue aftermath who's fighting Fundora next since Tim wanted to activate the rematch clause while the WBO announced Crawford as their mandatory. But all of a sudden Saudi's Alalshikh turned things differently. Bud all of a sudden will fight WBA champion, Madrimov while in the undercard Tim will fight GBP's undefeated prospect Vergil Ortiz.

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