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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 02, 2024, 01:23:40 AM

Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

Anderson’s last fight was one of the worst I’ve seen in a long time. If he doesn’t make any improvements, and just shows up to collect a paycheck, Wilder is going to knock him out. It is still good to see him tested so early in his career. Fighting somebody like Wilder could be the motivation he needs to prove what he is capable of and it should also be a reason to stay disciplined and out of legal trouble, which he has struggled to do these past few months.

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Quote from: aioc on April 28, 2024, 06:14:46 AM

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.

Crawford is just way too good. Tough chin, good skills and has the power to hurt opponents. But there were actually times he struggled and then made adjustments to secure his undefeated record. Old Gamboa was constantly hitting him before Bud hurt the Cuban. Kavaliauskas hurt him bad, Porter and Avanesyan somehow gave him problems before solving the puzzles.

If Canelo gives Bud a shot, I think Canelo stops him. Canelo is in his 30s but is well experienced in the heavier divisions. I doubt Bud's 36 year-old body can survive the onslaught unless Canelo is contented of outpointing and keeping himself safe. Anyways, Bud has already earned his ticket to the Hall of Fame in the future. First ever 2 division undisputed in the 4-belt era, 3 division lineal champion and he might get his 4th division belt if he beats Madrimov.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 27, 2024, 09:13:18 AM

It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.

Madrimov isn't an opponent that Terrence will have to underestimate, his demeanor and fighting style in my opinion looks like the kind that deceives you into thinking that you're going to beat it, plus his power seems to be much more than Terrence so I'm still on the neutral when it comes to this one, seems to me that this is going to be big fight though, really good line ups to the main event, I'm excited for the Latin fighters because it seems to me that there's going to be resurgence of more Latin fighters after all these years.

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Quote from: TravelMug on May 03, 2024, 06:34:45 AM

I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

Yes he is fighting Zhang in fact, he is training hard right now to get into contention again check out this video here

FIRED UP Deontay Wilder sends WARNING to Zhilei Zhang!

I don't think he is taking Zhang for granted after what happened in his last fight against Parker, he cannot take anyone for granted, he knows what Zhang is capable of doing and he knows that Zhang is a technical boxer so he needs to improve his stamina and bring back that Brown Bomber power he was known for, Wilder cannot lose this fight or people will count him out.

It's a very important fight for Wilder, this is a comeback fight for him, or at least a win will put his name slowly in the contention again. Before it was only the 3 of them, Fury, Wilder and AJ.

But Usyk came into the picture and his losses against Fury put him into a tough spot. Now after a big lost against Parker, he will be fighting Zhang, which is a difficult matchup for him. So he better win first before talking about Anderson.

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Quote from: TravelMug on May 03, 2024, 06:34:45 AM

I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

Yes he is fighting Zhang in fact, he is training hard right now to get into contention again check out this video here

FIRED UP Deontay Wilder sends WARNING to Zhilei Zhang!

I don't think he is taking Zhang for granted after what happened in his last fight against Parker, he cannot take anyone for granted, he knows what Zhang is capable of doing and he knows that Zhang is a technical boxer so he needs to improve his stamina and bring back that Brown Bomber power he was known for, Wilder cannot lose this fight or people will count him out.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 02, 2024, 01:23:40 AM

Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

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Quote from: aioc on April 28, 2024, 06:14:46 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2024, 04:50:14 PM

So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

This is going to be an easy win for Crawford and will establish his presence in the 154 lbs and I don't think these names will be a threat to Crawford, I followed many fights of Crawford and he shows perfection both in power and skill something that is lacking on those names.

The odds say Madrimov si almost 5:1 underdog in this fight, so yeah it could be a very easy but intriguing fight for Crawford. As others said, get busy for him this year and then wait for his options at 154 lbs as they might be thinking of going after the weakest champion in Fundora.

Quote from: aioc on April 28, 2024, 06:14:46 AM

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.

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Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

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Quote from: aioc on April 28, 2024, 06:14:46 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2024, 04:50:14 PM

So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

This is going to be an easy win for Crawford and will establish his presence in the 154 lbs and I don't think these names will be a threat to Crawford, I followed many fights of Crawford and he shows perfection both in power and skill something that is lacking on those names.

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

crawford gonna win but i doubt its gonna be easy win even madrimov himself already had over 300 amateur fights, but it gonna be great to show dominance of terrence crawford since we all know he is more experienced and versatile anyway crawford needs to watch out for madrimov punch as well just to not underestimate it, but i think seeing the previous matches from madrimov on youtube i can assume that he still has many weakness showing such as lax defense if i were to bet i'd bet on crawford full on.
this match we will see how madrimov could fare against crawford I doubt he could do much though but i'm pretty sure he could hold on until few rounds then getting KO'd probably thats just my rough guess though since crawford got the reach advantage here. we will see how crawford gonna stomp.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2024, 04:50:14 PM

So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

This is going to be an easy win for Crawford and will establish his presence in the 154 lbs and I don't think these names will be a threat to Crawford, I followed many fights of Crawford and he shows perfection both in power and skill something that is lacking on those names.

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 27, 2024, 09:13:18 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 27, 2024, 07:03:57 AM

True, Bud's counter is underrated, but we have seen it in many of his fights, that he can read his opponents and then adjust during the fight, similar to Floyd. Madrimov hasn't seen a fighter in Bud's caliber so he might be in for a big surprised when he can't land his power punches, specially his jumping left hook.

It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.

Mate, he already cemented his legacy already, he is the first boxer to unify all the belts in 2 division, at 140 and 147 lbs. Inoue followed suit as well at 118-122 lbs. So even if he retires now, his name is already in the history of boxing, he already secured his future.

So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 27, 2024, 07:03:57 AM

True, Bud's counter is underrated, but we have seen it in many of his fights, that he can read his opponents and then adjust during the fight, similar to Floyd. Madrimov hasn't seen a fighter in Bud's caliber so he might be in for a big surprised when he can't land his power punches, specially his jumping left hook.

It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 26, 2024, 04:25:35 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 25, 2024, 05:38:29 AM

Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. Cheesy

I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

Bivol and Beterbiev is also with the same attitude, probably it's mostly American that really trash talk to sell the fights. Manny Pacquiao during his prime didn't trash talk even if he understand everything in English. And mostly this boxers rely on this fight to do the talking.

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 26, 2024, 04:25:35 AM

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

True, Bud's counter is underrated, but we have seen it in many of his fights, that he can read his opponents and then adjust during the fight, similar to Floyd. Madrimov hasn't seen a fighter in Bud's caliber so he might be in for a big surprised when he can't land his power punches, specially his jumping left hook.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 26, 2024, 04:25:35 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 25, 2024, 05:38:29 AM

Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. Cheesy

I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

Or maybe there is also this language barrier? I do agree though, I remember the Maidana vs Broner, wherein Broner was really trash talking, but Maidana didn't bite anything as obviously he didn't understand what Broner is saying but it's way below the belt. But it was the classic example of trash talking gone wrong, Lol.

I think Bud will have no problems at 154 lbs, although with just eye balling Madrimov, he looks bigger and stronger. But I think Bud will figure him out in about 2-3 rounds and then go counter all night and I wouldn't be surprised that he will utilized his upper-cut here.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 25, 2024, 05:38:29 AM

Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. Cheesy

I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

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Quote from: yazher on April 25, 2024, 06:16:03 AM

It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.

This is a good fight for Terrence Crawford, new set of challenge and so another belt will he is, here is the highlight of Madrimov vs Kurbanov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiQ4ko1yciM

You'll the judge if he has a chance against Crawford or not. But for me, Crawford is still in his prime and so I doubt that the style of tools Madrimov have is enough to defeat even if this is 154 lbs. So good choice of Crawford to fight him, just like when Manny is going up in weight, careful match making of the champion and then Manny will just walk down the champion and annexed their belt.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2024, 07:21:13 AM

Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.

and this is also good for his career because he needs to grow now and this fight will give him
more popularity and yeah may face bigger names in the future once he make this win favoring him.

Quote from: yazher on April 25, 2024, 06:16:03 AM

It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.

yup, as he is growing older he needs to add more flavor to His career readying for the future.
Will also vote for Crawford in this fight though.

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Quote from: Text on April 25, 2024, 07:36:25 AM

It's not uncommon for promoters to support or hype their fighters and angle the narrative in their favor to make the fights more interesting, it’s part of the business. He can be a bit biased towards his fighters, but he does bring up some good points. The size difference is significant, and we haven't seen Crawford at 154 before. Madrimov's power is no joke either.

I do agree, but as boxing fans, we haven't heard of Madrimov, although as per Eddie Hearn he had a fight in Saudi and it's impressive. But common, if he is that hype we have heard his name at 154 lbs already. What size difference? Crawford might be walking around 154 lbs off season so there is no problem with the weight and the power here. You can said the same with Errol Spence power, it's no joke but Crawford knock him out.

Quote from: Text on April 25, 2024, 07:36:25 AM

Crawford's experience and technical skills are undeniable, but age and weight class can be factors. It'll be interesting to see how his speed and power translate at 154. He has consistently shown his skill and adaptability in the ring, but moving up in weight class always brings new challenges. Madrimov, being undefeated and holding the WBA title, is no pushover either.

For me that's not much any difference to be honest, As I have said, 154 lbs could be Crawford's comfortable weight, no need to drain himself to 147 lbs. While Madrimov still needs to go down to that weight and diet. But we will see, for sure though, Crawford will be the favorite even if he is the challenger here.

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It's not uncommon for promoters to support or hype their fighters and angle the narrative in their favor to make the fights more interesting, it’s part of the business. He can be a bit biased towards his fighters, but he does bring up some good points. The size difference is significant, and we haven't seen Crawford at 154 before. Madrimov's power is no joke either.

Crawford's experience and technical skills are undeniable, but age and weight class can be factors. It'll be interesting to see how his speed and power translate at 154. He has consistently shown his skill and adaptability in the ring, but moving up in weight class always brings new challenges. Madrimov, being undefeated and holding the WBA title, is no pushover either.

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It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.

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