It Is Not Against Forum Rules For Users To Post Your Personal Information Here!

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 25, 2014, 04:39:21 AM

I've previously had the impression of this forum sticking true to it's 'principles of free speech'. (This is from theymos, not me). The forum has always very very rarely modified anything in Scam Accusations. It seems that some administrators forget these principles when it is convenient for them, which they do have the power to do, but they shouldn't pretend that such principles apply in practice.

Oh, and theymos's dox is in plenty of places.

Has has removed the dox of obviously innocent people before. KWH was one such person he removed the dox of.

IIRC he has mentioned before that he will remove personal information if it was obtained by hacking or it is clearly obvious to theymos that the person is innocent of scamming. Theymos must have considered himself innocent of scamming or maybe the dox was obtained via hacking, it did have the last 4 digits of his CC which seems to indicate it came from a retailer or such.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 23, 2014, 07:43:50 PM

The reason that I am asking, which I am sure you will grasp, is that there appears to be unfair selective enforcement of the rules.

Why are you so interested in seeing Theymos dox being public?

Just curious.

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I've previously had the impression of this forum sticking true to it's 'principles of free speech'. (This is from theymos, not me). The forum has always very very rarely modified anything in Scam Accusations. It seems that some administrators forget these principles when it is convenient for them, which they do have the power to do, but they shouldn't pretend that such principles apply in practice.

Oh, and theymos's dox is in plenty of places.

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It is even worse guys, I saw some people (they have a red or cyan coin) who have the power to delete threads, edit posts of regular users and even ban people! Shocked

How can this be allowed?? I want that power too! Sad

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My opinion is that if LD actually fucked somebody over via some sour deal(s), then he should be doxxed, but not because somebody may have the red-ass toward him because of his post history.

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Quote from: dserrano5 on August 24, 2014, 12:51:03 AM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 23, 2014, 07:43:50 PM

That is how, not why.

Because:

- If theymos isn't a scammer he perfectly knows it, so removing his dox is removing the dox of a known (to him) innocent honest person, which is ok.
- If theymos is a scammer, well of course he's going to remove it

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Schrodinger's dox? theymos is both a scammer and not a scammer when he removes his dox? Or is that just a paradox. I don't think he can be in a superposition of both.

Ah well.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 23, 2014, 07:43:50 PM

That is how, not why.

Because:

- If theymos isn't a scammer he perfectly knows it, so removing his dox is removing the dox of a known (to him) innocent honest person, which is ok.
- If theymos is a scammer, well of course he's going to remove it

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Quote from: ForgottenPassword on August 17, 2014, 11:02:42 PM

Because this is a privately owned forum and they can do as they please.

That is how, not why. The reason that I am asking, which I am sure you will grasp, is that there appears to be unfair selective enforcement of the rules.

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Do you want your dox deleted from here or something?

This issue isn't about me, and I have never bought myself into this. So stop trying to divert the subject onto me, ad hominem style.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 17, 2014, 10:33:36 PM

Bumping this post.

Why are the dox of theymos deleted, but not the dox of anyone else?

Because this is a privately owned forum and they can do as they please. They have said before that the rules are flexible. It usually isn't the best idea to post the dox on the accused's website. There are plenty of high SEO ranking websites that'll happily publish dox.

Do you want your dox deleted from here or something? I doubt they will do that considering the mountain of substantiated accusations against you. Maybe if you settle your debts with everyone or prove your innocence they will remove them. Although being hacked still justifies having your dox up as you are not capable of handling others funds so maybe they won't.

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Quote from: tvtoyz on July 15, 2014, 12:48:13 AM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on July 15, 2014, 12:38:37 AM

Sure:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--668570

(This isn't the thread that Confessions posted, Confessions posted it in Scam Accusations and that was deleted [not just moved to trashcan])

Also:

Quote from: SweetBits.biz on July 02, 2014, 10:39:17 PM

The proof of Theymos dox being deleted are gone, but I swear I seen it two times in the last week, and it was deleted both times pretty quick.

Wow. I come here from LBC, and already starting to see some shady stuff going on. Explanation?

Bumping this post.

Why are the dox of theymos deleted, but not the dox of anyone else?

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Quote from: jekv2 on July 14, 2014, 10:32:31 PM

Even Theymos had to laugh at this so damn hard.

Laughters unite!

Doesn't seem like he laughed. Instead, he is looking at ways in which forum policy could be changed.

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Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

Quote from: Maged on July 14, 2014, 07:45:41 PM

That is the problem. There is no way that the forum could verify every scam accusation, nor should it have to now that there are more appropriate services available for this. Since we can't make exceptions to allow for people to post the personal information of scammers, we have two choices:

1) Remove all posted personal information, like Reddit.
2) Allow everyone to post personal information about anybody.

Bitcoin attracts a lot of scammers, so I would tend to err on safer side of allowing all personal information. Not to mention, if it wasn't posted here, it would just be posted somewhere else. Public information cannot be made unpublic.

Right.

I do feel for innocent victims of doxxing, though. I welcome suggestions on how to improve forum policy in this area. However, forum policy must be consistent, and I'm not going to start deciding who's guilty and who's not (again).

I've been thinking that maybe it would be an improvement to require that dox be posted along with sources for all of the data, and ban dox that doesn't come from a "public source" (government site, news story, Facebook, etc.). This would make casual doxxing more difficult, help readers determine whether the dox is actually accurate, and hamper distribution of info obtained from illegal sources (hacking, etc.). I'm not sure that it would help enough to be worth the trouble, though.

Scam accusations and doxxes should be made only in one subforum, where IP addresses of posters are displayed.
This would immediately eliminate most of the fake scam accusations on the board while enhancing the credibility of existing ones.
It would also force people to be more responsible with their accusations and doxxing.

The forum should also be fitted with a filter to prevent posters from masking their IPs using free proxy services.
There are numerous sources (updated daily) of public proxies.
Private VPN and proxies are traceable, so it shouldn't matter if posters are using them.

Anonymity should not be abused, in my opinion.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on July 15, 2014, 12:38:37 AM

Sure:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--668570

(This isn't the thread that Confessions posted, Confessions posted it in Scam Accusations and that was deleted [not just moved to trashcan])

Also:

Quote from: SweetBits.biz on July 02, 2014, 10:39:17 PM

The proof of Theymos dox being deleted are gone, but I swear I seen it two times in the last week, and it was deleted both times pretty quick.

Wow. I come here from LBC, and already starting to see some shady stuff going on. Explanation?

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Sure:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--668570

(This isn't the thread that Confessions posted, Confessions posted it in Scam Accusations and that was deleted [not just moved to trashcan])

Also:

Quote from: SweetBits.biz on July 02, 2014, 10:39:17 PM

The proof of Theymos dox being deleted are gone, but I swear I seen it two times in the last week, and it was deleted both times pretty quick.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on July 15, 2014, 12:28:07 AM

Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

Right.

I do feel for innocent victims of doxxing, though. I welcome suggestions on how to improve forum policy in this area. However, forum policy must be consistent, and I'm not going to start deciding who's guilty and who's not (again).

Hypocrisy? Perhaps if you would like to be consistent, you won't delete threads containing your dox and ban the users that posts it.

https://i.imgur.com/jsjQFup.png

Uh Oh.....true story?

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Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

Right.

I do feel for innocent victims of doxxing, though. I welcome suggestions on how to improve forum policy in this area. However, forum policy must be consistent, and I'm not going to start deciding who's guilty and who's not (again).

Hypocrisy? Perhaps if you would like to be consistent, you won't delete threads containing your dox and ban the users that posts it.

https://i.imgur.com/jsjQFup.png

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Even Theymos had to laugh at this so damn hard.

Laughters unite!

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Quote from: LostDutchman on July 14, 2014, 09:37:37 PM

Yeah, we can tell.

Wink

Look here I am

Jeebus my chin hurts laughing so hard at Home

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Quote from: LostDutchman on July 14, 2014, 08:59:11 PM

Well, now, among the things in my Magic Bag of Tricks is little subscription information service that I run, the clients of which are mostly attorneys, PIs, process servers, employers and even the occasional law enforcement agency because what we do is scavenge the net for personal information about the requested party.

You would be surprised what is out there!

Nowlet us suppose there is a forum member who we will call "Johnny Jackass".

Just for shits and grins I decide to expose Johnny and begin my search.

Generally within a few hours I will have his SSN, his street adress and a Google view of that, Google directions to his house, his credit rating, the names of his wife, his kids and maybe even the names of his cats and dogs, as well as his boat registration, if he's got one, his licence plate numbers, a copy of his latest tax return, his Facebook account (hacked); the list goes on and by current forum rules I could post it all and be off Scot free!

Now I wouldn't do any of that but the point is that under current forum rules.............

I COULD!

Beginning to get my point?

Pretty funny, My name is Johnny! LOL hahaa.

You may think some of us may be stupid.If we didn't want out info out there, we wouldn't want it out there,

Word advice. If fbi, etc, it would not be out there if not wanted it to be so.

Check this out.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7847842

Then check this out.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-you-own-a-firearm-688559

See? Get my point?

Then you see.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6751484

Then you see my above info displayed.

Do you see.

It's only if we want you fools to see...

Transparency it's called.

Lol silly rabbits chasing kids like pedophiles... Yes I called agents pedo's, sick fucks.

Edit:

I am dieing for them to come too... But hey you must have a warrant to enter my home in Indiana or I am liable to kill you.

Limbs n pieces they ask?

Lolz...

I am kinda intoxicated atm. and having lots of laughs.

Yeah, we can tell.

Wink

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Well, now, among the things in my Magic Bag of Tricks is little subscription information service that I run, the clients of which are mostly attorneys, PIs, process servers, employers and even the occasional law enforcement agency because what we do is scavenge the net for personal information about the requested party.

You would be surprised what is out there!

Nowlet us suppose there is a forum member who we will call "Johnny Jackass".

Just for shits and grins I decide to expose Johnny and begin my search.

Generally within a few hours I will have his SSN, his street adress and a Google view of that, Google directions to his house, his credit rating, the names of his wife, his kids and maybe even the names of his cats and dogs, as well as his boat registration, if he's got one, his licence plate numbers, a copy of his latest tax return, his Facebook account (hacked); the list goes on and by current forum rules I could post it all and be off Scot free!

Now I wouldn't do any of that but the point is that under current forum rules.............

I COULD!

Beginning to get my point?

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Why didn't anyone protect the victims of the emails that were leaked from gawminers that I posted?

This includes me as well.

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Bitcointalk.org I believe is in a clusterfuck of all things.

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