It Is Not Against Forum Rules For Users To Post Your Personal Information Here! - page 2.

LostDutchman

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Quote from: Maged on July 14, 2014, 08:22:14 PM

Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

I've been thinking that maybe it would be an improvement to require that dox be posted along with sources for all of the data, and ban dox that doesn't come from a "public source" (government site, news story, Facebook, etc.). This would make casual doxxing more difficult, help readers determine whether the dox is actually accurate, and hamper distribution of info obtained from illegal sources (hacking, etc.). I'm not sure that it would help enough to be worth the trouble, though.

The problem is that it means that people can't post things like shipping info and unpublished email addresses attached to PayPal accounts used in a scam. Ultimately, it comes down to whether or not it's more important to protect innocents vs denying scammers from reusing an identity.

PMs work well for that sort of thing and if they then CHOOSE to make the info public, that's another matter.

Maged

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Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

I've been thinking that maybe it would be an improvement to require that dox be posted along with sources for all of the data, and ban dox that doesn't come from a "public source" (government site, news story, Facebook, etc.). This would make casual doxxing more difficult, help readers determine whether the dox is actually accurate, and hamper distribution of info obtained from illegal sources (hacking, etc.). I'm not sure that it would help enough to be worth the trouble, though.

The problem is that it means that people can't post things like shipping info and unpublished email addresses attached to PayPal accounts used in a scam. Ultimately, it comes down to whether or not it's more important to protect innocents vs denying scammers from reusing an identity.

LostDutchman

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Hey, thanks for getting my post and thread moved to where it properly belongs!

Been a long day here in BFL Land and I need all the help I can get!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISmgOrhELXs

The Dutchman.

LostDutchman

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Quote from: jekv2 on July 14, 2014, 08:05:59 PM

Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

Quote from: Maged on July 14, 2014, 07:45:41 PM

That is the problem. There is no way that the forum could verify every scam accusation, nor should it have to now that there are more appropriate services available for this. Since we can't make exceptions to allow for people to post the personal information of scammers, we have two choices:

1) Remove all posted personal information, like Reddit.
2) Allow everyone to post personal information about anybody.

Bitcoin attracts a lot of scammers, so I would tend to err on safer side of allowing all personal information. Not to mention, if it wasn't posted here, it would just be posted somewhere else. Public information cannot be made unpublic.

Right.

I do feel for innocent victims of doxxing, though. I welcome suggestions on how to improve forum policy in this area.

Close bitcointalk.org down.

Edit:
Am I being sarcastic or for real?

Sarcastic, of course, you silly boy!

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jekv2

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Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

Quote from: Maged on July 14, 2014, 07:45:41 PM

That is the problem. There is no way that the forum could verify every scam accusation, nor should it have to now that there are more appropriate services available for this. Since we can't make exceptions to allow for people to post the personal information of scammers, we have two choices:

1) Remove all posted personal information, like Reddit.
2) Allow everyone to post personal information about anybody.

Bitcoin attracts a lot of scammers, so I would tend to err on safer side of allowing all personal information. Not to mention, if it wasn't posted here, it would just be posted somewhere else. Public information cannot be made unpublic.

Right.

I do feel for innocent victims of doxxing, though. I welcome suggestions on how to improve forum policy in this area.

Close bitcointalk.org down.

Edit:
Am I being sarcastic or for real?

LostDutchman

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Quote from: theymos on July 14, 2014, 08:00:10 PM

Quote from: Maged on July 14, 2014, 07:45:41 PM

That is the problem. There is no way that the forum could verify every scam accusation, nor should it have to now that there are more appropriate services available for this. Since we can't make exceptions to allow for people to post the personal information of scammers, we have two choices:

1) Remove all posted personal information, like Reddit.
2) Allow everyone to post personal information about anybody.

Bitcoin attracts a lot of scammers, so I would tend to err on safer side of allowing all personal information. Not to mention, if it wasn't posted here, it would just be posted somewhere else. Public information cannot be made unpublic.

Right.

I do feel for innocent victims of doxxing, though. I welcome suggestions on how to improve forum policy in this area. However, forum policy must be consistent, and I'm not going to start deciding who's guilty and who's not.

I've been thinking that maybe it would be an improvement to require that dox be posted along with sources for all of the data, and ban dox that doesn't come from a "public source" (government site, news story, Facebook, etc.). This would make casual doxxing more difficult, help readers determine whether the dox is actually accurate, and hamper distribution of info obtained from illegal sources (hacking, etc.). I'm not sure that it would help enough to be worth the trouble, though.

Well, I think it would but thank you for noticing this thread and recognising the problem.

I cannot thank you enough for your efforts in maintaining this forum and do not think for one second that I was calling into question your honesty or integrity.

Again thank you for your help but I do beleive that the privacy of forum must be preserved in order to maintain an atmosphere of free and open communiction.

The Dutchman.

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Quote from: LostDutchman on July 14, 2014, 07:05:21 PM

It Is Not Against Forum Rules For Users To Post Your Personal Information Here!

That's right! Why did you surprise though?

theymos

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Quote from: Maged on July 14, 2014, 07:45:41 PM

That is the problem. There is no way that the forum could verify every scam accusation, nor should it have to now that there are more appropriate services available for this. Since we can't make exceptions to allow for people to post the personal information of scammers, we have two choices:

1) Remove all posted personal information, like Reddit.
2) Allow everyone to post personal information about anybody.

Bitcoin attracts a lot of scammers, so I would tend to err on safer side of allowing all personal information. Not to mention, if it wasn't posted here, it would just be posted somewhere else. Public information cannot be made unpublic.

Right.

I do feel for innocent victims of doxxing, though. I welcome suggestions on how to improve forum policy in this area. However, forum policy must be consistent, and I'm not going to start deciding who's guilty and who's not (again).

I've been thinking that maybe it would be an improvement to require that dox be posted along with sources for all of the data, and ban dox that doesn't come from a "public source" (government site, news story, Facebook, etc.). This would make casual doxxing more difficult, help readers determine whether the dox is actually accurate, and hamper distribution of info obtained from illegal sources (hacking, etc.). I'm not sure that it would help enough to be worth the trouble, though.

LostDutchman

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Quote from: Maged on July 14, 2014, 07:45:41 PM

Quote from: LostDutchman on July 14, 2014, 07:05:21 PM

I think that we all need to petition Theymos for identity protection except for proven scam accusatioins here on this forum.

That is the problem. There is no way that the forum could verify every scam accusation, nor should it have to now that there are more appropriate services available for this. Since we can't make exceptions to allow for people to post the personal information of scammers, we have two choices:

1) Remove all posted personal information, like Reddit.
2) Allow everyone to post personal information about anybody.

Bitcoin attracts a lot of scammers, so I would tend to err on safer side of allowing all personal information. Not to mention, if it wasn't posted here, it would just be posted somewhere else. Public information cannot be made unpublic.

How do you verify the accuracy of such "publicly" posted information?

What is this place?

The Jerry Springer of Bitcoin?

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LostDutchman

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Quote from: SLok on July 14, 2014, 07:33:30 PM

Man you have no integrity, never had it, never will, rotten till the bone (well, intergity maybe Cheesy

)

Quote from: SLok on July 14, 2014, 07:04:53 PM

Old guy, you are the hell food here:
The only stories going around about you show what a faker you are, making up your own secretary, lol, this is just a start, Sally Rand, Nick Danger, rocky racoon, marion sydney lynn, aliasmithorjones, Cindy Hoffs, faking being several online hookers, the list is endless! http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1012937, http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=987268, http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1029034, http://spam-court.com/?q=node/67
I'll keep the list of bankruptcies for now, running off with the money and hiding on mama's farm.

lol. businessman
52lincoln.com
corporationwolf.info
fiftymilespergallon4u.info
freegascards4u.com
onestopcorporationshop.com
rivercitytalk.com
rocket88.info
1600friedchickenavenue.com

Now, now, Slok!

Cool your jets!

We know you are just an excitable boy and I have it on good authority that this very song was written about YOU!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4-pexSVWzM

LostDutchman

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Quote from: Lauda on July 14, 2014, 07:30:22 PM

I'm going to tag this to be moved to meta, off-topic is not the right place for it.
This is just crazy. Basically if someone wanted to make a personal attack on you, the forum rules would allow it. Great.
The rules are just a mess here.

Well, OK.

I didn't think of Meta.

Thanks for your input!

The Dutchman.

Maged

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Quote from: LostDutchman on July 14, 2014, 07:05:21 PM

I think that we all need to petition Theymos for identity protection except for proven scam accusatioins here on this forum.

That is the problem. There is no way that the forum could verify every scam accusation, nor should it have to now that there are more appropriate services available for this. Since we can't make exceptions to allow for people to post the personal information of scammers, we have two choices:

1) Remove all posted personal information, like Reddit.
2) Allow everyone to post personal information about anybody.

Bitcoin attracts a lot of scammers, so I would tend to err on safer side of allowing all personal information. Not to mention, if it wasn't posted here, it would just be posted somewhere else. Public information cannot be made unpublic.

SLok

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Man you have no integrity, never had it, never will, rotten till the bone (well, intergity maybe Cheesy

)

Quote from: SLok on July 14, 2014, 07:04:53 PM

Old guy, you are the hell food here:
The only stories going around about you show what a faker you are, making up your own secretary, lol, this is just a start, Sally Rand, Nick Danger, rocky racoon, marion sydney lynn, aliasmithorjones, Cindy Hoffs, faking being several online hookers, the list is endless! http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1012937, http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=987268, http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1029034, http://spam-court.com/?q=node/67
I'll keep the list of bankruptcies for now, running off with the money and hiding on mama's farm.

lol. businessman
52lincoln.com
corporationwolf.info
fiftymilespergallon4u.info
freegascards4u.com
onestopcorporationshop.com
rivercitytalk.com
rocket88.info
1600friedchickenavenue.com

Lauda

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Terminated.

I'm going to tag this to be moved to meta, off-topic is not the right place for it.
This is just crazy. Basically if someone wanted to make a personal attack on you, the forum rules would allow it. Great.
The rules are just a mess here.

LostDutchman

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First time I've ever heard of a forum which allows the posting of the personal information of others by forum users.

Seems a day or two ago a forum member posted personal information which he thought was about me in order to attempt to impugn my intergity.

He was wide of the mark but I nevertheless complained to the appropriate moderator.

Getting no respones, I complained again and again no response.

Figuring the squeaky wheel gets the grease, I complained yet again and received this response today:

In other words, your privacy on this forum is not guarranteed by forum rules.

Any Tom, Dickwad or Harry can try to figure out who you are and post it all over the place without penalty.

Now I replied to the Mod that I would handle it, so handle I have.

I think that we all need to petition Theymos for identity protection except for proven scam accusatioins here on this forum.

What say you?

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