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Topic: IT STILL ISN'T BACK TO "NORMAL"! - page 3. (Read 5783 times)

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April 11, 2013, 02:44:30 AM
#24
Do you people even read the graph? In the background it says the first sell-off is at institutional investors... Sounds about where we're at. And then the crash back to the mean is after the "public" background wording. LOL if you think bitcoin is known by the public.

Except we did get institutional investors and the public does know. Where do you think the demand flooded in from? Early adopters? "Public" isn't qualified in that graph. So even a 1% exposure could lead to the bubble playing out.

We hardly tapped into institutional investors, and through that alone we can assume we're not at the public stage.

Also, the crash happens after the public phase. Are you trying to say that this is the most the public will ever know about bitcoin? If i went out and asked 100 people about bitcoin, i'd be shocked if more than 1 knew anything about them. I've also spoken with credible economists who have never even heard of it.

No that's not correct, a bubble doesn't mean the end of bitcoin it means the end of this crazy run up. The public will learn about it more in the future but it is pretty public now and has been in most major respectable newspapers. I'd have thought theres more non professional investors in bitcoin atm than professional investors based on what I have seen around the forums.

If this were the case, then why does the "public" section end before the crash? I think we can agree that the general public is far from informed on bitcoin, and the strong presence of "non-professionals" on here is because all "internet nerds" are a tiny niche that know about bitcoin and are more likely to post on forums and so you get an unrealistic representation of the whole population on here.
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April 11, 2013, 02:38:42 AM
#23
Do you people even read the graph? In the background it says the first sell-off is at institutional investors... Sounds about where we're at. And then the crash back to the mean is after the "public" background wording. LOL if you think bitcoin is known by the public.

Except we did get institutional investors and the public does know. Where do you think the demand flooded in from? Early adopters? "Public" isn't qualified in that graph. So even a 1% exposure could lead to the bubble playing out.

We hardly tapped into institutional investors, and through that alone we can assume we're not at the public stage.

Also, the crash happens after the public phase. Are you trying to say that this is the most the public will ever know about bitcoin? If i went out and asked 100 people about bitcoin, i'd be shocked if more than 1 knew anything about them. I've also spoken with credible economists who have never even heard of it.

No that's not correct, a bubble doesn't mean the end of bitcoin it means the end of this crazy run up. The public will learn about it more in the future but it is pretty public now and has been in most major respectable newspapers. I'd have thought theres more non professional investors in bitcoin atm than professional investors based on what I have seen around the forums.
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April 11, 2013, 02:19:23 AM
#22
Do you people even read the graph? In the background it says the first sell-off is at institutional investors... Sounds about where we're at. And then the crash back to the mean is after the "public" background wording. LOL if you think bitcoin is known by the public.

Except we did get institutional investors and the public does know. Where do you think the demand flooded in from? Early adopters? "Public" isn't qualified in that graph. So even a 1% exposure could lead to the bubble playing out.

We hardly tapped into institutional investors, and through that alone we can assume we're not at the public stage.

Also, the crash happens after the public phase. Are you trying to say that this is the most the public will ever know about bitcoin? If i went out and asked 100 people about bitcoin, i'd be shocked if more than 1 knew anything about them. I've also spoken with credible economists who have never even heard of it.
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April 11, 2013, 02:14:43 AM
#21
I should add that this graph assumes the largest pools of disposable funds are in the hands of the public, and not the institutional investors.

That has changed slightly in recent years.
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April 11, 2013, 02:14:05 AM
#20
also argument against OP:  media attention is just starting
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April 11, 2013, 02:13:47 AM
#19
Do you people even read the graph? In the background it says the first sell-off is at institutional investors... Sounds about where we're at. And then the crash back to the mean is after the "public" background wording. LOL if you think bitcoin is known by the public.

Except we did get institutional investors and the public does know. Where do you think the demand flooded in from? Early adopters? "Public" isn't qualified in that graph. So even a 1% exposure could lead to the bubble playing out.
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April 11, 2013, 02:12:49 AM
#18
Regardless of who is right I think there's some compelling reading here.

We won't know who's right until after the fact.

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April 11, 2013, 02:09:45 AM
#17

One graph is worth a thousand words.

edit: fixed the graph showing 175$ "back to normal"

No, 266->105 is just the "first sell off"
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Do you people even read the graph? In the background it says the first sell-off is at institutional investors... Sounds about where we're at. And then the crash back to the mean is after the "public" background wording. LOL if you think bitcoin is known by the public.


Edit: This is also assuming this graph has any merit in this new technology... Which it likely doesn't
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April 11, 2013, 02:09:08 AM
#16
No, 266->105 is just the "first sell off"
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April 11, 2013, 02:04:58 AM
#15
Well at least bitcointalk is back to normal, no crazy mofo lag anymore. We'll see about the bitcoin, I am definitely thinking it could easily hit $50 again, all it will take is one major holder to sell off today and we will have panic again. I'll wait to buy at $50! (I also might regret this Tongue)

I buy at 50$ tommorow too.
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April 11, 2013, 02:02:51 AM
#14
Well at least bitcointalk is back to normal, no crazy mofo lag anymore. We'll see about the bitcoin, I am definitely thinking it could easily hit $50 again, all it will take is one major holder to sell off today and we will have panic again. I'll wait to buy at $50! (I also might regret this Tongue)
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April 11, 2013, 02:01:09 AM
#13
I'm sorry but I don't se ANY indications of a "bubble" popping here. If anything, I see a technical issue that caused a panic sell-off.
The fact that SO many accounts are coming into the market only means MORE and MORE money to be added to the system.
That means bulls and speculators, but more people will speculate uptrend.
just my 2cts.
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April 11, 2013, 01:56:30 AM
#12
So were at bear trap?
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April 11, 2013, 01:53:47 AM
#11
So were you ignoring that "Media Attention" label because it doesn't fit your assumptions or? Plus the "enthusiasm," "greed," yea. Definitely haven't seen any of that around here. $100,000 per BTC definitely isn't "Delusion." People saying bitcoin isn't a bubble because it's something that's never been before, that's not "New Paradigm" either.

What's funny is I actually got caught around that bear trap @ $71.50. Although I might have been part of the sell off leading into it. Who knows. Pretty spot on in my eyes.
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April 11, 2013, 12:43:51 AM
#10

One graph is worth a thousand words.

edit: fixed the graph showing 175$ "back to normal"

No, 266->105 is just the "first sell off"
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April 11, 2013, 12:23:25 AM
#9
This chart is valid for every bubble I have ever seen, and I've been following stock and currency markets since around the Asian crisis of 97-98.
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April 11, 2013, 12:14:09 AM
#8
I feel like we're going to see some big movement within the next ten hours.
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April 11, 2013, 12:12:35 AM
#7
Fixed the graph.
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April 11, 2013, 12:09:35 AM
#6
Bitcoin will go into economic textbooks soon  Grin
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April 11, 2013, 12:08:37 AM
#5
I still think we're in the midst of the trap. Might go up to $200 still, who knows. Stupid money aplenty around here.
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