It sucks that 1xbit still runs - page 2.

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Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 02:08:50 AM

Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

When people like you and myself not at all bothering and spreading awareness about not to play on 1xbit, I guess we may go them bankrupted over the time due to low to no player to their casino. Still, when they are actively promoting on other platforms for new user, we cannot do anything about them.

Just imagine a situation like they solve all the accusation against them at least on this forum, then they can exist and run campaigns here, definitely you will not have any concern on them, right? This could be one of them reason why scammers are allowed to continue on this forum. Honest people will try to resolve all the accusation but in my opinion we cannot expect such honesty from 1xbit team any more as they are not focusing on building reputation but too keen on attracting players through campaigns.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 22, 2022, 11:08:53 AM

Quote from: 1miau on December 21, 2022, 08:27:26 PM

If someone hasn't tagged all known accounts of 1xbit, feel free to do so:

I have supported the flags against them. That's what every concerned forum user should do in the right way to make others aware of it regardless of whether they are DT members or non-DT members. But unfortunately there are still many who don't care about this, I have even included some of the participants in the 1xbit campaign on my ignore list. I hope there are many people who will support the flag, they should care.

Exactly this, even if someone is not a DT member yet, it's still important to send out a negative trust for scammers. That way we will achieve two important points:
- 1xbit will see a massive opposition against scamming people here on Bitcointalk. 1xbit will see that they are not welcome here and hopefully leave Bitcointalk somewhen.
- Even if someone is not DT member yet, it can happen quickly in the future to become DT member. Since DT rules have changed and DT became much more decentralized, it's quite possible for everyone to become a DT (2) member one day.

Supporting a flag and giving out accurate trust is always useful.

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To an extent you can understand why members would want to sign up to a signature campaign paying the sort of money 1xbit do but having said that I think we all as a collective have a responsibility to try to minimise the impact they could have on vulnerable and gullible people as well as newbies. It is a thin line in most cases and blurred lines on others occasions when it comes to handling signature campaigns that have such a torrid reputation.

We as a community cannot get it right all the time even with the best of intentions but at the very least we can try our best to take teh course of actino we deem to be best for the majority.

Quote from: CryptoPanda on December 20, 2022, 04:24:08 PM

That’s the sad reality but we do our best. You have done a good job tagging members that are greedy enough to wear the signature and promote the casino. I salute you for that. I don’t see any of the signature participant posting on this thread, some of them were quite vocal about the legitimacy of the casino in the beginning. They are now silent though I see them posting in gambling sections.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on December 21, 2022, 11:13:52 PM

Previously they already knew and understood the consequences of joining the 1xbit signature campaign, but still dared to join there, that is what is called ignoring fraud charges.

Back to the first chapter: The average user promoting 1xbit is a user who has previously been negatively tagged. That's a fact. Then because they are accepted as participants even without good quality posts, this triggers their desire to earn money. There are only a handful of neutral users willing to promote 1xbit because there are other campaigns that are also potentially safe.

All of them know the consequences, in fact I'm sure they were ready in case they account were banned from the forum because promoting 1xbit.

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Quote from: 1miau on December 21, 2022, 08:27:26 PM

If someone hasn't tagged all known accounts of 1xbit, feel free to do so:

Manager1xBit / Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2759
1xbit_official / Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2204

I have supported the flags against them. That's what every concerned forum user should do in the right way to make others aware of it regardless of whether they are DT members or non-DT members. But unfortunately there are still many who don't care about this, I have even included some of the participants in the 1xbit campaign on my ignore list. I hope there are many people who will support the flag, they should care.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on December 21, 2022, 09:50:29 AM

Quote from: Razmirraz on December 21, 2022, 08:17:30 AM

One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.

I think the other way around, it's because forums don't moderate scams. If the forum will moderate the scam, then we will no longer see 1xbit campaigns on this forum. Also, mods may not think about banning campaign participants as long as they post something sensible, but if these participants post perfunctory and break a lot of rules, they will be banned.

There are scenarios on how an admin can ban a campaign, there are lots of guidelines you can read in this thread:

Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)

Well, that's my point. Thank you for clarifying the meaning of my post above.
Speaking of sloppy or low-quality posts, those who advertise 1xbit very rarely make quality posts. I very often see them on gambling boards with all kinds of different postings that have no purpose, in other words, they make posts to chase the weekly quota to get paid from 1Xbit.

Quote from: CryptoPanda on December 21, 2022, 01:49:45 PM

Quote from: Razmirraz on December 21, 2022, 08:17:30 AM

Snip.

They are not ignorant of the scam accusations, the members who apply and participate in the campaign know and understand the consequences of joining 1xbit signature campaigns. Majority of the accounts are already have negative feedback, recently woken accounts, and member accounts with low quality posts which I suspect are part of a large farm.

Previously they already knew and understood the consequences of joining the 1xbit signature campaign, but still dared to join there, that is what is called ignoring fraud charges.
There are lots of fraud accusations aimed at them in this forum, some users have also created a special thread about the dangers of joining 1Xbit. Those who advertised 1Xbit have earned a red trust that has never been forgotten, they are very difficult to be accepted in other campaigns after 1xbit ended.

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Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 02:08:50 AM

I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

Don't be surprised because they are paying for press releases and they are supported by big article sites like https://www.publish0x.com/ what's really disgusting is instead of a 1XBIT representative posting the press release the administrator of www.publish0x.com are the one posting it, even if they have a disclaimer on it they are allowing 1XBIT to have a space in their platform.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on December 21, 2022, 01:49:45 PM

They are not ignorant of the scam accusations, the members who apply and participate in the campaign know and understand the consequences of joining 1xbit signature campaigns. Majority of the accounts are already have negative feedback, recently woken accounts, and member accounts with low quality posts which I suspect are part of a large farm.

Exactly, all these negative trusted accounts will have huge difficulties to find a legitimate campaign after 1xbit because accounts will get irreversibly damaged by promoting 1xbit after joining 1xbit campain. Normally, no scam company will run a signature campaign here when it's well known that the product is a scam.
But 1xbit is paying for huge advertisements everywhere, also on Coingecko or Coinmarketcap recently.
It's very sad to see how scamming people is still profitable.
1xbit will only go away if everyone is aware that's it's a scam company and as long as new and unexperienced people find out the hard way (get scammed), 1xbit will be around. Roll Eyes

All we can do is bring up scam accusations against 1xbit, support all flags on all accounts of 1xbit and give out a massive negative trust.
Every negative trust for 1xbit scammers is deserved!
We can't do much but it's honest work!

If someone hasn't tagged all known accounts of 1xbit, feel free to do so:

Manager1xBit / Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2759
1xbit_official / Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2204

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Quote from: Razmirraz on December 21, 2022, 08:17:30 AM

Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 02:08:50 AM

Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.
1Xbit will continue to run on this forum as long as there are users who are still greedy collecting Bitcoin fractions from Scam sites. Apart from the BTT forum, 1Xbit also allocates funds for the promotion of their website.

They are not ignorant of the scam accusations, the members who apply and participate in the campaign know and understand the consequences of joining 1xbit signature campaigns. Majority of the accounts are already have negative feedback, recently woken accounts, and member accounts with low quality posts which I suspect are part of a large farm.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on December 21, 2022, 08:17:30 AM

One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.

I think the other way around, it's because forums don't moderate scams. If the forum will moderate the scam, then we will no longer see 1xbit campaigns on this forum. Also, mods may not think about banning campaign participants as long as they post something sensible, but if these participants post perfunctory and break a lot of rules, they will be banned.

There are scenarios on how an admin can ban a campaign, there are lots of guidelines you can read in this thread:

Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)

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Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 02:08:50 AM

Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.
1Xbit will continue to run on this forum as long as there are users who are still greedy collecting Bitcoin fractions from Scam sites. Apart from the BTT forum, 1Xbit also allocates funds for the promotion of their website.

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 20, 2022, 03:40:04 PM

The structure of the forum (not just related to 1xbit but all websites that range between highly suspect and out-and-out scams) is as such that they are not moderated in the forum and that is why they have been space to breathe here.

As you rightly said, we cannot kick them out and as they have lost all concerns about their trust ratings there is not way to tackle them. One way to cause some form of disruption to their plans within the forum is to discourage members from participating in their signature campaigns.

There is no solution to the problem unless they authorities close it down or they actually address every single complaint against them and settle all outstanding issues then start a journey towards being a genuine trustworthy business. Unfortunately, things do not seem like they will change any time soon.

Quote from: CryptoPanda on December 20, 2022, 02:38:49 PM

I don’t think 1xbit is a worthy discussion. We know they know we can’t kick them out of the forum. It’s obvious they do not care about their trust rating on bitcointalk, they get enough publicity outside the forum with zero or minimal confrontation. No one except us here at bitcointalk care about the illegal activities of 1xbit, they have zero confrontation on the other websites they advertise their casino. if you search on the internet “is 1xbit a scam” you will find a bitcointalk thread about 1xbit on the first page. That’s why the victims of 1xbit keep on coming here to lay their complaints forgetting that bitcointalk isn’t the official page of 1xbit.

I fully agree! But why such serious institutions as FC Barcelona and Serie A cooperate with them?!? Does that mean they are the idiots? If so, let show them that!!! Why we do nothing outside Bitcointalk? Let's not close ourselves, let's help the whole society!

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 20, 2022, 03:40:04 PM

The structure of the forum (not just related to 1xbit but all websites that range between highly suspect and out-and-out scams) is as such that they are not moderated in the forum and that is why they have been space to breathe here.

As you rightly said, we cannot kick them out and as they have lost all concerns about their trust ratings there is not way to tackle them. One way to cause some form of disruption to their plans within the forum is to discourage members from participating in their signature campaigns.

There is no solution to the problem unless they authorities close it down or they actually address every single complaint against them and settle all outstanding issues then start a journey towards being a genuine trustworthy business. Unfortunately, things do not seem like they will change any time soon.

That’s the sad reality but we do our best. You have done a good job tagging members that are greedy enough to wear the signature and promote the casino. I salute you for that. I don’t see any of the signature participant posting on this thread, some of them were quite vocal about the legitimacy of the casino in the beginning. They are now silent though I see them posting in gambling sections.

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The structure of the forum (not just related to 1xbit but all websites that range between highly suspect and out-and-out scams) is as such that they are not moderated in the forum and that is why they have been space to breathe here.

As you rightly said, we cannot kick them out and as they have lost all concerns about their trust ratings there is not way to tackle them. One way to cause some form of disruption to their plans within the forum is to discourage members from participating in their signature campaigns.

There is no solution to the problem unless they authorities close it down or they actually address every single complaint against them and settle all outstanding issues then start a journey towards being a genuine trustworthy business. Unfortunately, things do not seem like they will change any time soon.

Quote from: CryptoPanda on December 20, 2022, 02:38:49 PM

I don’t think 1xbit is a worthy discussion. We know they know we can’t kick them out of the forum. It’s obvious they do not care about their trust rating on bitcointalk, they get enough publicity outside the forum with zero or minimal confrontation. No one except us here at bitcointalk care about the illegal activities of 1xbit, they have zero confrontation on the other websites they advertise their casino. if you search on the internet “is 1xbit a scam” you will find a bitcointalk thread about 1xbit on the first page. That’s why the victims of 1xbit keep on coming here to lay their complaints forgetting that bitcointalk isn’t the official page of 1xbit.

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I don’t think 1xbit is a worthy discussion. We know they know we can’t kick them out of the forum. It’s obvious they do not care about their trust rating on bitcointalk, they get enough publicity outside the forum with zero or minimal confrontation. No one except us here at bitcointalk care about the illegal activities of 1xbit, they have zero confrontation on the other websites they advertise their casino. if you search on the internet “is 1xbit a scam” you will find a bitcointalk thread about 1xbit on the first page. That’s why the victims of 1xbit keep on coming here to lay their complaints forgetting that bitcointalk isn’t the official page of 1xbit.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 20, 2022, 02:26:36 PM

Quote from: bitcointlkacc on December 20, 2022, 11:29:28 AM

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If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, maybe it would be good to write a petition to FC Barcelon and Serie A to take a closer look on this matter and stop advertising this scammers?!

Do you really think they are unaware of these scam accusation, just a google search would provide all these details and these teams are only interested in taking the money rather than looking for the reputation of the club.

There are only two options: Either they don't know that 1xBet and 1xBit are the same company, or FC Barcelona and Serie A have better research than Bitcointalk users.

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Quote from: _act_ on December 17, 2022, 03:41:14 AM

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One of the reasons 1xbit is having more customers (if the gambling site is having more customers), is because it is advertising even beyond this forum, I have seen its ads on many other sites too.

They are not just advertising online but sponsoring major sports leagues as well, this year PSG announced them as their regional partner in Africa and Asia and i have seen their advertisements in television. What is surprising is that they are still active and these major sports teams are taking these sponsorship despite all the scam accusation and even refusing to pay millions of dollars to the users even after a court verdict.

Quote from: bitcointlkacc on December 20, 2022, 11:29:28 AM

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If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, maybe it would be good to write a petition to FC Barcelon and Serie A to take a closer look on this matter and stop advertising this scammers?!

Do you really think they are unaware of these scam accusation, just a google search would provide all these details and these teams are only interested in taking the money rather than looking for the reputation of the club.

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Quote from: bitcointlkacc on December 19, 2022, 11:27:32 AM

It seems we have a complicated situation here and some questions. Two come to my mind:
1) Are 1xBit and 1xBet the same company?
2) If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, can the opinion about 1xBet influence the opinion about 1xBit (and vice versa)?

I don't have enough statement about 1xBet and 1xBit are the same company or not, regarding with 1xBet have many football club become their official partner. For 1xBit have many scam accusation thread and this casino gambling claimed as scam and not allowed for promoting through signature code and get negative feedback if any one want advertising with 1xBit.

Seems can't find with 1xBet ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum, except they don't have any program with signature campaign but not any user have signature code for advertising with 1xBet. There are legal casino gambling or not I don't have specific answer after looking many football team have logo at their T-Shirt with 1xBet.

1xBet has no ANN thread on Bitcointalk or Signature Campaign as it is a FIAT service. Its equivalent in the crypto world is 1xBit. There are many indications that it is the same company, but there is no clear evidence for this.

Going through some investigation on internet I have found information which suggests the parent company behind the operation of 1xbet to be a company called 1X Corp N.V.

This company is allegedly also behind the Bitcoin Casino 1xbit, both supposedly de-facto based in Russia.

I am not sure if both casinos are illegitimate or it is only 1xbit, I assume it would be harder for a fiat casino to scam their clients they way 1xbit does, but again I have no evidence right now.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on December 20, 2022, 08:52:54 AM

Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 02:08:50 AM

Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

1xbit gambling site, not only advertised on Bitcointalk, the ratio is 10/100: 10 here and 100 spread on Google & the internet, which one is dangerous, of course 1xbit advertising is more dangerous outside than here, thankfully 1xbit users on Bitcointalk have a 1xbit scam gambling site warning, as you know, of course users can see the warning and think well 1xbit is dangerous to place bets.

How about 1xbit ads outside of Bitcointalk that have no warning at all, users who see big bonuses, bets are paid multiple times, easy to access and in the end users have problems, you should prevent 1xbit ads on google and free internet without warning, careless users are warned here who keep falling into the same holes.

If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, maybe it would be good to write a petition to FC Barcelon and Serie A to take a closer look on this matter and stop advertising this scammers?!

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