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Quote from: saxydev on December 18, 2022, 10:55:37 AM

They are same casino,

Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 18, 2022, 03:08:21 PM

I don’t think 1xbet and 1xbit are the same company,

Quote from: bitcointlkacc on December 18, 2022, 07:12:08 AM

Advertising on Bitcointalk is nothing. Look how these scammers are manipulating people around the world:
FatFork proved that 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58106716

1xbet in Spain, 1xbet.es only accepts deposits in fiat currency, it doesn't handle cryptocurrencies, so I don't think what FatFork says is proof that they are a scam.

1xbet.es, the sponsor of Barcelona, is not a casino scam.

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I don’t think 1xbet and 1xbit are the same company, I know 1xbet as a legitimate casino. Ixbit on the other hand have questionable reputation in the business. I don’t see any solid evidence that links the two casinos together, I have read allegation that 1xbit is affiliated with a new casino being promoted on bitcointalk and the evidence brought forward was that both casinos have similar designs. I think these kinds of allegations are the reason scam isn’t moderated on the forum, the moderators hands are full with dealing with plagiarism and spam reports.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 18, 2022, 10:49:37 AM

Quote from: bitcointlkacc on December 18, 2022, 07:12:08 AM

Advertising on Bitcointalk is nothing. Look how these scammers are manipulating people around the world:
FatFork proved that 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58106716

See what sponsorship deals 1xBit/1xBet have:
- FC Barcelona Global Partner - https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors
- Italian Serie A League - https://www.legaseriea.it/en/lega-serie-a/sponsor-e-partner

This is one of the biggest casinos in the world. They don't care about negative trust on Bitcointalk at all.
I'm just surprised that such serious institutions as Barcelona and Serie A can't check who they work with.

I have been very doubtful about what you say. Either 1xbit and 1xbet are not the same company or if they are, I'm going to think they are not a scam site.

Why do I say this? I just went to the link you put up about Barcelona sponsors and I see that 1xbet has a legal license to operate in Spain. It is a fiat site like the others that operate there, under the supervision of the Directorate General of Gambling, in the Ministry of Consumer Affairs.

So 1xbet can't be scamming because it is strictly regulated and monitored.

Even so, it could be that 1xbit is scamming, or that 1xbet is scamming in other places, but not in Spain.

They are same casino, I don't get why they have this reputation on this forum tho, since September I do a lot of sportsbetting on their site and I had 0 problems with winnings over 5k...

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Quote from: bitcointlkacc on December 18, 2022, 07:12:08 AM

Advertising on Bitcointalk is nothing. Look how these scammers are manipulating people around the world:
FatFork proved that 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58106716

See what sponsorship deals 1xBit/1xBet have:
- FC Barcelona Global Partner - https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors
- Italian Serie A League - https://www.legaseriea.it/en/lega-serie-a/sponsor-e-partner

This is one of the biggest casinos in the world. They don't care about negative trust on Bitcointalk at all.
I'm just surprised that such serious institutions as Barcelona and Serie A can't check who they work with.

I have been very doubtful about what you say. Either 1xbit and 1xbet are not the same company or if they are, I'm going to think they are not a scam site.

Why do I say this? I just went to the link you put up about Barcelona sponsors and I see that 1xbet has a legal license to operate in Spain. It is a fiat site like the others that operate there, under the supervision of the Directorate General of Gambling, in the Ministry of Consumer Affairs.

So 1xbet can't be scamming because it is strictly regulated and monitored.

Even so, it could be that 1xbit is scamming, or that 1xbet is scamming in other places, but not in Spain.

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Quote from: bitcointlkacc on December 18, 2022, 07:12:08 AM

Advertising on Bitcointalk is nothing. Look how these scammers are manipulating people around the world:
FatFork proved that 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58106716

It's beyond logic why they are still running when they are exposed accused and despised by the gambling community here, I guess they are well funded and they managed these by bribing advertising platforms and massive advertising like what they are doing right now here and on other platforms.

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See what sponsorship deals 1xBit/1xBet have:
- FC Barcelona Global Partner - https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors
- Italian Serie A League - https://www.legaseriea.it/en/lega-serie-a/sponsor-e-partner

This is one of the biggest casinos in the world. They don't care about negative trust on Bitcointalk at all.
I'm just surprised that such serious institutions as Barcelona and Serie A can't check who they work with.

Really surprising maybe because the organizers see these accusations as baseless because they do not have a pending legal case and the organizers considered these allegations as hearsay, 1XBIT, and 1XBET really know how to present their case, and they have good lawyers.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on December 17, 2022, 01:04:38 PM

So far I have tag some 1xxxxxshit campaign participants as untrustworthy users. Whatever the reason they are promoting the campaign

Money. And none of them really care about what feedback you left for them.

Of course, money is the reason for all participants. What I really regret is that some users with neutral reputation are also promoting the campaign even though many people have warned them and tagged many participant. I know what I did to few participant wouldn't change things, but at least it could keep more people from promoting the campaign.

Only people who are ready for negative tag would apply and promote such a scam casino, so it's hard for me to believe that someone unknowingly applied for and promoted it.

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Advertising on Bitcointalk is nothing. Look how these scammers are manipulating people around the world:
FatFork proved that 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58106716

See what sponsorship deals 1xBit/1xBet have:
- FC Barcelona Global Partner - https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors
- Italian Serie A League - https://www.legaseriea.it/en/lega-serie-a/sponsor-e-partner

This is one of the biggest casinos in the world. They don't care about negative trust on Bitcointalk at all.
I'm just surprised that such serious institutions as Barcelona and Serie A can't check who they work with.

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1XBIT proves that advertising works and there's corruption among influencers and reviewers, there are reviewers that give 1XBIT high ratings and advertising networks accepts money to advertise 1XBIT and since scam is not moderated in this forum they can promote their platform here, but with all the warnings we've given here the gamblers who played here are lesser now they have to spend more to combat these warnings that will stand as long as they do not resolve these accusations.

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They are paying a premium to advertise the casino. You may find 1xbit banner on every crypto site even the explorer pages, with some 1xbit links. And I think they are also paying winners making it look like they are fixing thier reputation. They are however pretty much judged in this forum for they obviously didn't fix the accusations from bitcointalk users.

Sucks as it may. advertising works and it's not up to us to shut them down, you can only wish people outside the forum do some research.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on December 17, 2022, 05:45:08 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on December 17, 2022, 05:09:43 PM

As no group and no individual has taken legal action against them, I am beginning to think about the actual number of victims being much smaller than estimated because many of the allegations and accusations against 1xbit are without substance or evidence, mostly just newbie accounts complaining of scams. There is a probability 1xbit are still selective scamming but they have not resolved the open cases against them therefore cannot be trusted.

Several attempts have been made to try to discourage members from joining their campaigns and for them to stop displaying the 1xbit signature but as you said the website has not been shut down. If the victims form a group and take legal action as one, then it might be the way forward to try to actually bring an end to their business. but there is no desire for victims to do it.

Here is my contribution to try to minimise the impact 1xbit are having in the forum and I would like to thank all those members that are trying to discourage 1xbit signature campaign participants from using the forum to promote them: REQUEST FOR ATTENTION OF: All 1xbit Signature Campaign Participants

The number of victims here can't be large since it's not a gambling forum and most people posting in the gambling sections are only doing it because of requirements from their signature campaign. As we can see in scam accusation threads, people really concerned by what casinos are doing to their customers are just a small handful in reality, and I suspect many of users to post about 1xbit not because they really want to stop a scammy casino but because they need to make a post about a gambling topic actually. Personally I've used this casino in the past and I've been able to withdraw my funds and my winnings without issues, that's all I can say about them.

There’s been an open allegation against them on the forum for a long time which is yet to be resolved but the company still goes about its business on the forum, opening new signature campaigns as if nothing’s happened. They are quite untouchable because scams are not moderated on the forum. It’s a tricky thing what to believe, @Saint-loup says he was able to withdraw his winnings from the casino successfully, other people may not be so lucky. some of the problems users are having with the casino are partly their own fault of not reading the T&C and the issues are not particular to 1xbit but other online casinos as well. But they have such a bad reputation that it's embedded in my mind that they are not to be trusted. Personally I wouldn't risk using this casino when there are reputable casinos.

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OP, can you stop the wave of scams going on in the world? The same can be said about this casino. As long as there is a demand for such gambling sites, this or that casino will exist, there will be deceptions, and there will be people who are willing to be deceived. Every time a reasonable person invests money somewhere, he should learn more about who he trusts. Yes, casino ads are very common on the internet, but it's worth a little tinkering and hitting a few bottom links in a search and discovering that the 1xBit site is a scam.
Do people who go to play there do it?
One thing always surprises me: people playing in a casino are usually greedy, but as with their greed, they allow themselves to be so stupidly deceived and give money without hesitation or regret.

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Quote from: rat03gopoh on December 17, 2022, 12:20:28 PM

Legal action seems too complicated and expensive. If their promotional power is using advertising services outside of forums, then it's good to start reporting that to ad providers. In the end, the bad experiences of users written on various review sites will knock more into public awareness that this casino isn't worth playing.

I have also noticed how 1xbit advertise themselves on reputable crypto webpages, last time I checked some news web I liked I realized they decided to advertise it by publishing a "tutorial" on how bet on the casino. I felt disappointed and never read that web again.

I take for granted those web operators do not even know what they are promoting and (even worse) do not care enough to do a simple research before advertising. Because of it, I am not sure how effective would be to alert ad providers about this, they probably prefer to pocket the money and not to ask many questions.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on December 17, 2022, 11:08:53 AM

Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 03:08:50 AM

Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

There were members whom 1XBIT scammed that planned to file legal claims and fight for its closure but we never heard from them anymore, with so many people they've scammed the authorities should close this casino, but they have money and money can corrupt people.
Just look at the number of members participating in their campaign, they have three campaigns running right now, two for the World Cup and the other one for their regular campaign, Bitcointalk community has done its part in fact if we did not expose them the number of their victims could be ten times more.

You've also got to keep in mind that probably more than 50% of the claims made against 1xbit were likely from cheaters and those looking to try and take advantage of a site. Also, some of those claims were likely from people gambling where it is not legal so those will not be filing a claim anytime soon as well.

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 17, 2022, 05:09:43 PM

As no group and no individual has taken legal action against them, I am beginning to think about the actual number of victims being much smaller than estimated because many of the allegations and accusations against 1xbit are without substance or evidence, mostly just newbie accounts complaining of scams. There is a probability 1xbit are still selective scamming but they have not resolved the open cases against them therefore cannot be trusted.

Several attempts have been made to try to discourage members from joining their campaigns and for them to stop displaying the 1xbit signature but as you said the website has not been shut down. If the victims form a group and take legal action as one, then it might be the way forward to try to actually bring an end to their business. but there is no desire for victims to do it.

Here is my contribution to try to minimise the impact 1xbit are having in the forum and I would like to thank all those members that are trying to discourage 1xbit signature campaign participants from using the forum to promote them: REQUEST FOR ATTENTION OF: All 1xbit Signature Campaign Participants

The number of victims here can't be large since it's not a gambling forum and most people posting in the gambling sections are only doing it because of requirements from their signature campaign. As we can see in scam accusation threads, people really concerned by what casinos are doing to their customers are just a small handful in reality, and I suspect many of users to post about 1xbit not because they really want to stop a scammy casino but because they need to make a post about a gambling topic actually. Personally I've used this casino in the past and I've been able to withdraw my funds and my winnings without issues, that's all I can say about them.

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Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 03:08:50 AM

Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

Legal action is expensive but it can be done besides legal action asking advertising platforms through legal means to stop showing 1XBIT banners is also a good option, their hosting provider is not popular and there's the possibility of a bribe which is why they are still online, but all our warnings and reviews have good results because they are spending huge money to advertise here and on other platforms where they are allowed.
They are doing massive advertising because they are losing players whom they scam, soon all our efforts will snowball and it will bring good results.

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1xbit is still running today is not because of this forum, if 1xbit's advertisements was to be running on this forum alone, trust me, their business would have been long dead, but then, like one of the comments said here, I also have seen their ad on several places outside this forum, so it is not a surprise to me that they are still running.
But the sure thing is that, their current or supposedly customers funding them right now is not from this forum, i can bet that even those promoting them on this forum are not playing on their platform.

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As no group and no individual has taken legal action against them, I am beginning to think about the actual number of victims being much smaller than estimated because many of the allegations and accusations against 1xbit are without substance or evidence, mostly just newbie accounts complaining of scams. There is a probability 1xbit are still selective scamming but they have not resolved the open cases against them therefore cannot be trusted.

Several attempts have been made to try to discourage members from joining their campaigns and for them to stop displaying the 1xbit signature but as you said the website has not been shut down. If the victims form a group and take legal action as one, then it might be the way forward to try to actually bring an end to their business. but there is no desire for victims to do it.

Here is my contribution to try to minimise the impact 1xbit are having in the forum and I would like to thank all those members that are trying to discourage 1xbit signature campaign participants from using the forum to promote them: REQUEST FOR ATTENTION OF: All 1xbit Signature Campaign Participants

Quote from: Z390 on December 17, 2022, 03:08:50 AM

Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

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If it’s just the forum, I don’t think they are having good promotions here. No one in their right mind would trust them or their prompters with the amount of red flags on their account. They know this and the company is spending a lot of money on promotions in and outside the forum. I don’t think bitcointalk is their biggest platform. I see these guys everywhere, they are surprisingly popular for a scam casino. I wonder if they have fixed the withdrawal issues they are having with the site or are they just preying on new users.

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Quote from: rat03gopoh on December 17, 2022, 12:20:28 PM

Legal action seems too complicated and expensive. If their promotional power is using advertising services outside of forums, then it's good to start reporting that to ad providers. In the end, the bad experiences of users written on various review sites will knock more into public awareness that this casino isn't worth playing.

I use to see their ads on one article site where I subscribed in, right now they are not showing the ads anymore but they are now concentrating on the forum signature campaign they have three campaigns right now, and I noticed they are attracting new accounts with no bad trust these new accounts prefer to have a tag because of the high payout rate, they have the money and they are using to platforms where they can advertise their casino.
All the gambling community can do is to report write reviews and testify with proof that this is a scam site and gamblers should stay away from this casino to protect their money.

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if moving on forums doesn't seem very effective they do ads also on other sites too, I'm sure they don't get many subscribers from forums, even if they get subscribers from forums, they only come for bonuses

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