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Quote from: shinratensei_ on December 24, 2023, 09:22:32 AM

Napoli is performing so badly this time. I cannot deny the fact that if Napoli remains clueless during the game against Roma, it has a significant impact.

Indeed. Napoli performed badly, they totally failed to maintain their performance in the last season. They are even defeated by AS Roma with 2 goals. We know that AS Roma played inconsistently. If Napoli was defeated by them, it means Napoli played more inconsistently this season. It is a worse season for Napoli.

Quote from: shinratensei_ on December 24, 2023, 09:22:32 AM

The club is also rarely making opportunities. This is the main problem that was also affecting the performance from the club in UCL.

What opportunities do you mean? Shot attempts?
If Napoli made lack of shot attempts, it means there is a problem with their midfielders and attackers.
I think they have quality players on those lines, they just played with no good motivation and have bad teamwork.

Quote from: shinratensei_ on December 24, 2023, 09:22:32 AM

Mezzarri is failed to bring napoli back again to the best performance. There are indications that Napoli may be in the midst of making arrangements for a new coach to take over, potentially replacing the current one. Napoli is always showing a disappointing performance.
Napoli has sent off itself off from the title race. This is the major problem that must be solved by the club.

Mazzarri seems to follow Rudi Garcia. He failed to improve Napoli performance and the mentality among the players. I don't know if Napoli may plan to change their coach again. Sure, no chance for joining the race of the title. Napoli probably tries to finish in the UCL zone only. However, it is not easy if we look their current perfromance.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 24, 2023, 02:55:29 PM

After osimhen got a red card I think that was the genesis of Napoli's fall in the match against Roma, Napoli already had a very poor form and had a poor performance along side so the red card made things even worse for them because they were already struggling with complete players, a man down made it even worse.

Roma was beaten by bologna few day back and bologna nis a team that when compared to Napoli in strength and dept so it was more like a team below Napoli was able to win bologna so definitely or most likely Napoli should have been able to win Roma with little stress but then it turned out roma became a hectic game for Napoli to play, the next two games which osimhen will be missing is definitely going to have some effect on Napoli performance and their results will be affected aswell.

Napoli lacklustre performances continue and the chance to defend their serie a title tightens up as well even their chance for champions league football is also slim as they are now 4 points of champions league place (even though the super league charge is on).

Questionn is, when will the napoli underperforming coach be sacked?

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Actually, Napoli wasn't bad, but they didn't have many options after receiving 2 red cards in the game. They lost 2-0, this is a big problem. Their performance is far from last year's magnificent Napoli. Roma, on the other hand, has been in great form. Napoli was an important opponent for them and they managed to return from this match with 3 points.

So, if there were no red cards in this match Napoli might not have lost maybe both teams play a draw Roma was just lucky in this situation. Sad to see Napoli currently in 7th position because we know that last season Napoli was the best team in the Italian League for some reason they can't maintain their position even though they are still playing the same squad there are only a few players who have moved. Osimhen, who is usually always a mainstay, is now unable to do the same as last season he seemed to be missing something in his abilities.

I don't think Napoli have a chance to win the Scudetto again this season even for a place in the champions league I doubt it, what exactly is missing from this club?
Is it just because their competitors are playing better or is this just an unlucky season for Napoli? sometimes questions like this are difficult to answer.

As we know, Inter and Juventus have become stronger than the previous season, not to mention Milan which has increased its strength by recruiting several better quality players. It must be admitted that in this case Napoli is under greater pressure to maintain the Scudetto, another thing is the change of coach who is considered a poor successor to Spalletti-Rudi Garcia-Walter Mazzarri.

I agree that the red card received by Napoli gave Roma the freedom to control the game, and we know that previously Mourinho squad was more unstable than Napoli now. So I think Roma was lucky because Matteo Politano and Osimhen got red cards.

In my opinion, Napoli can no longer defend the Scudetto, it is very impossible with a very small chance. At least their current effort is to get close to the UCL zone and finish there when the season ends. Meanwhile in the Coppa Italia they have lost, their situation is very difficult to understand at the moment.

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It seems that Milan chose to keep Piorli at least for now.

His position it is not safe whatsoever. Next week we have a break and that will be the key moment for the sack if he does not win next week before the Xmas break.

You know Pioli is an experienced manager who won them the Serie A after a lot of years. So he deserves another chance, right? I think he needs to be given the time to fix this squad for the season. They are in the Europa League right now out of the Champions League and they are actually looking comfortable to secure a top 3 position in the Champions League. So I would say they have nothing more to achieve this season. Pioli can be given the time to fix the team. I don't see a new manager joining and achieving more.

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After osimhen got a red card I think that was the genesis of Napoli's fall in the match against Roma, Napoli already had a very poor form and had a poor performance along side so the red card made things even worse for them because they were already struggling with complete players, a man down made it even worse.

Roma was beaten by bologna few day back and bologna nis a team that when compared to Napoli in strength and dept so it was more like a team below Napoli was able to win bologna so definitely or most likely Napoli should have been able to win Roma with little stress but then it turned out roma became a hectic game for Napoli to play, the next two games which osimhen will be missing is definitely going to have some effect on Napoli performance and their results will be affected aswell.

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I have lost confidence in Napoli as they can no longer finish as top four in the league anymore due to their inconsistency and poor performance in their matches. Rudi Garcia is not a good that can lead Napoli to success because he is not an expert in the coaching field.

It was a bad day for Napoli yesterday as both strikers were given red card and they were left with no striker, which gave Roma the opportunity to win all three points. If not for that Napoli played with two men down, it would have been difficult for Roma to win the match. If Napoli continue in this way, they might not qualify to Europa cup next season because I know that it is impossible for Napoli to qualify to the champions league.

Aurelio De Laurentiis deserves to be blamed because he confidently fired Rudi Garcia midway, the appointment of a new successor Walter Mazzarri, is not an instant solution to improve the club's performance to be more stable. So it is quite reasonable to say that releasing Spalletti was a fatal mistake, it is proven that currently Napoli are having difficulty penetrating the European zone, let alone retaining the Scudetto trophy. The defeat to AS Roma was another form of player frustration, the squad mentality was in a worrying situation.

In my opinion, Napoli will have difficulty creating a positive trend in the future even though their next opponent is relatively easy, because they lost two strikers at once on the front line. It is very likely that Napoli will be fasting for a title this season, a realistic target is to pursue a ticket to the European route for next season, Walter Mazzarri is under great pressure now.

The match official spoiled the game with his harsh card matching orders though. The least he could have done was to at least calmed the situation leading to the very first Red card shown towards Politano.
Disappointed with Politano who should have also controlled his emotions and not react immediately to the bad tackle from the player chasing him.

Victor Oshime included, the first was quite understanding, the second though was leading to a quick counter attack, he didn't stop the ball and at the same time didn't stamp on the player. His approach from behind was just not right. There was no way he could have escaped that card.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 24, 2023, 11:36:35 AM

AS Roma still have the same problem every season, this season too they don't seem to have changed much from the previous season. Yes they are inconsistent and it is very difficult to create that consistency. It's not too bad, but it's not enough to bring them into the tight competition for the Scudetto title. To be in the top 4 alone seems like they will struggle with their current performance. Unless they can improve it in the second round later.
One of the problems they have is the defense that is still easy to be penetrated by opponents, and that makes it dificult for them to win every match. 8 wins, 4 draws and 5 defeats is something that is not satisfactory.

It's true, but it seems like AS Roma fans have excessive expectations and they think AS Roma can be better than the previous season but in fact that's not the case at all. Because after all, basically AS Roma is only trying to get into the top four, meanwhile AS Roma always fails in the competition and fails to survive to stay in the top four.

Therefore, there is no hope for AS Roma to win the scudetto because yes, basically AS Roma still does not have the quality to reach the top of the Serie A standings. With failures like that, it is at least not surprising if there are statements about AS Roma needing strong finances to be able to have more stable and better quality and performance.

Serie A is a very competitive league and to survive there a team needs to be consistent and good. AS Roma is currently doing not too bad but not good enough to get them a spot in the Uefa Champions League. For the past few years, AS Roma has been playing in the Europa League and I kind of forgot last when they played Uefa Champions League.

This season they are not doing so bad, but they are not doing very good either as well. They are in the 6th position right now but they have the potential to play in the UCL but it's very low. They have to be consistent like their opponents. They keep dropping points against relatively weaker teams and can't do much against bigger teams. They need to fix these to get better.

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Quote from: Falconer on December 24, 2023, 12:36:03 PM

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I have lost confidence in Napoli as they can no longer finish as top four in the league anymore due to their inconsistency and poor performance in their matches. Rudi Garcia is not a good that can lead Napoli to success because he is not an expert in the coaching field.

It was a bad day for Napoli yesterday as both strikers were given red card and they were left with no striker, which gave Roma the opportunity to win all three points. If not for that Napoli played with two men down, it would have been difficult for Roma to win the match. If Napoli continue in this way, they might not qualify to Europa cup next season because I know that it is impossible for Napoli to qualify to the champions league.

Undoubtedly, Napoli has been very inconsistent since the start of the season and doesn't look like the Napoli team that won the Italian Serie A last season with a high point point difference. They managed to finish behind Real Madrid in their group to reach the knockout stages of the UEFA champions league but has been absolutely poor in the league as they're currently 7th in the Italian league table.

That been said, since the club sacked their former manager Rudi Garcia, the new manager Walter Mazzarri has improved the performance of the club and could've won the league game against Roma yesterday had they finished the game with eleven men. They're currently four points behind fourth placed Bologna and if they can improve in their performance, they can still finish the season in the top four of the league table.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 24, 2023, 11:36:35 AM

AS Roma still have the same problem every season, this season too they don't seem to have changed much from the previous season. Yes they are inconsistent and it is very difficult to create that consistency. It's not too bad, but it's not enough to bring them into the tight competition for the Scudetto title. To be in the top 4 alone seems like they will struggle with their current performance. Unless they can improve it in the second round later.
One of the problems they have is the defense that is still easy to be penetrated by opponents, and that makes it dificult for them to win every match. 8 wins, 4 draws and 5 defeats is something that is not satisfactory.

It's true, but it seems like AS Roma fans have excessive expectations and they think AS Roma can be better than the previous season but in fact that's not the case at all. Because after all, basically AS Roma is only trying to get into the top four, meanwhile AS Roma always fails in the competition and fails to survive to stay in the top four.

Therefore, there is no hope for AS Roma to win the scudetto because yes, basically AS Roma still does not have the quality to reach the top of the Serie A standings. With failures like that, it is at least not surprising if there are statements about AS Roma needing strong finances to be able to have more stable and better quality and performance.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 24, 2023, 09:50:54 AM

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Napoli's quality of play has dropped a lot from their previous performances, they have been playing much better in the Italian league but why are they playing so badly this time around. They have been seen at the top of the points table for most of the time but this time they have moved to the 7th position. This is really funny. Even with a team like Roma, they won the match 2-0 today, so wasn't it because of Napoli's weakness? So why don't you blame them for their losses? It happened because Napoli played carelessly

Napoli management is not in good condition after the departure of a figure who played a very important role in last season's success. Serie A has become unfavorable for Napoli again and they have to admit that they deserve to be in 7th position. In their last match against Roma, for 90 minutes they were only able to make 2 shots on target their performance dropped drastically, there was no aggressive play as usual, Osimhen and Matteo were also given red cards so the empty attack line clearly gave Roma a big advantage in bombarding the defense which had lost the key game.

The performances that Nopali played with last season are not there this season, maybe it was the success of one man that they are behind this season due to his departure. But it has to be admitted that Napoli played the worst in today's match, their performance was very disappointing and they couldn't attack much against Roma. The way they attacked today against Roma, they must have been in seventh position because their attacking moments were not very good. After Matteo Politano was sent off for a red card, Napoli attacked more badly, and their game changed even more when another player received a red card in the 86th minute. And Roma took this opportunity to win by two goals against Napoli on their home ground and their attack was superb.

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It seems that Milan chose to keep Piorli at least for now.

His position it is not safe whatsoever. Next week we have a break and that will be the key moment for the sack if he does not win next week before the Xmas break.

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Quote from: Frankolala on December 24, 2023, 11:27:31 AM

I have lost confidence in Napoli as they can no longer finish as top four in the league anymore due to their inconsistency and poor performance in their matches. Rudi Garcia is not a good that can lead Napoli to success because he is not an expert in the coaching field.

It was a bad day for Napoli yesterday as both strikers were given red card and they were left with no striker, which gave Roma the opportunity to win all three points. If not for that Napoli played with two men down, it would have been difficult for Roma to win the match. If Napoli continue in this way, they might not qualify to Europa cup next season because I know that it is impossible for Napoli to qualify to the champions league.

Aurelio De Laurentiis deserves to be blamed because he confidently fired Rudi Garcia midway, the appointment of a new successor Walter Mazzarri, is not an instant solution to improve the club's performance to be more stable. So it is quite reasonable to say that releasing Spalletti was a fatal mistake, it is proven that currently Napoli are having difficulty penetrating the European zone, let alone retaining the Scudetto trophy. The defeat to AS Roma was another form of player frustration, the squad mentality was in a worrying situation.

In my opinion, Napoli will have difficulty creating a positive trend in the future even though their next opponent is relatively easy, because they lost two strikers at once on the front line. It is very likely that Napoli will be fasting for a title this season, a realistic target is to pursue a ticket to the European route for next season, Walter Mazzarri is under great pressure now.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 24, 2023, 11:36:35 AM

AS Roma still have the same problem every season, this season too they don't seem to have changed much from the previous season. Yes they are inconsistent and it is very difficult to create that consistency. It's not too bad, but it's not enough to bring them into the tight competition for the Scudetto title. To be in the top 4 alone seems like they will struggle with their current performance. Unless they can improve it in the second round later.
One of the problems they have is the defense that is still easy to be penetrated by opponents, and that makes it dificult for them to win every match. 8 wins, 4 draws and 5 defeats is something that is not satisfactory.

AS Roma defense line is one of the problems that Jose Mourinho has not been able to overcome, due to the weakness of the defense, it is very difficult for Roma to appear consistent. Last season Roma almost won the Europa League trophy, their journey was stopped after being defeated by Sevilla in the final.

This season Roma illness has returned like in previous seasons, they are still having difficulty competing in the race for the Serie A title. Mourinho must be able to overcome the problems that have not yet been resolved this season, bringing in new players in the defensive area might be able to make Roma compete in the top four which will enable them to play in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Warkop on December 24, 2023, 10:06:15 AM

It is true that Napoli's condition this season is in very bad condition, because it can be seen from their last 5 matches that they have only won 2 wins. In this match, it was seen that their performance was very poor and they rarely put pressure on Roma's back line and their play was too arrogant, so one of the Napoli players received a red card, giving Roma a big opportunity to score a goal. In my opinion, Napoli played with a lot of emotion in this match so their game was not well coordinated and their attack patterns were chaotic.

Napoli wasn't actually that bad earlier, even last season they did won the league title and earlier this season they started on a fair note until they began to have some rift amongst the players and the coach which later led to the removal of the coach due to the performance of the players reflecting the issues amongst the players.

Napoli since after the change of their coach has been really inconsistent and some times with some chaotic coordination in their performance. They did showed some level of improvement in their performance earlier when they changed their coach but then recently it has seemed like they are going back to playing poorly , against Roma they didn't have good coordination and their performance was really not like it should be but then Roma isn't a small team and they aren't weak either so I wasn't expecting any less especially knowing that Napoli is currently not in a very good form.

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And in my opinion, Roma's victory is not a big surprise because Napoli are really down this season so Roma can take advantage of this to win the match.
As it happened, the amount of drama and cards that were taken out of the referee's pocket indicated that the tension in this game was very high and that was natural because after all, this was a match between two of Serie A's top teams.

I agree with you. Roma's win was expected. Napoli's performance was very erratic. The new coach is still not able to adapt himself well with the players of the team. I also find it unlikely that Walter Mazzarri will improve Napoli's performance very quickly. Napoli have played 8 matches since Walter Mazzarri took over as coach. Out of this they have won only 3 matches and lost 5 matches. We didn't see a good performance from Napoli players against Roma either. They don't try to attack much. I think Napoli's goal was to draw the match. But after receiving two red cards in the second half, they could no longer resist the Roma players.

Actually, Napoli wasn't bad, but they didn't have many options after receiving 2 red cards in the game. They lost 2-0, this is a big problem. Their performance is far from last year's magnificent Napoli. Roma, on the other hand, has been in great form. Napoli was an important opponent for them and they managed to return from this match with 3 points.

It seems napoli needs to tell italy to sack spalletti then napoli can get him back again. Cheesy

It's unbelievable to see that just lost two people are enough to destroy the quality of club. Napoli's performance is so pathetic to be watched. Roma has good enough defense.
Im giving roma credit as the team is not wasting an opportunity to get three points from napoli. This is a perfect result from roma. Napoli goes down again and im so happy with it. Roma is starting to climbing up.
Big UP for roma! although it was winning with two goals combined with red card, but win is a win. I have seen many people were also being contradicted by it. Poor napoli, from zero to hero then zero again.

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AS Roma still have the same problem every season, this season too they don't seem to have changed much from the previous season. Yes they are inconsistent and it is very difficult to create that consistency. It's not too bad, but it's not enough to bring them into the tight competition for the Scudetto title. To be in the top 4 alone seems like they will struggle with their current performance. Unless they can improve it in the second round later.
One of the problems they have is the defense that is still easy to be penetrated by opponents, and that makes it dificult for them to win every match. 8 wins, 4 draws and 5 defeats is something that is not satisfactory.

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Quote from: tusandii on December 24, 2023, 09:14:00 AM

Maybe the situation would have been different if Osimhen and Politano had not left the field because they received red cards.
Anyone will give very bad criticism and everyone will say that Napoli this season is not like last season and it normal if this happens because previously I also thought the result of yesterday's match ended in a draw or Napoli won but in fact surprises can always happen in football so we don't need to be surprised by a sad result like this and there are many reasons that make Napoli so bad and I have often said about the causes.
This is one of Mazzarri toughest tests as a new coach, he has faced a very tough challenge, while Osimhen had to miss several matches because he received a red card. Meanwhile, Osimhen is one of the players who can be relied on and in the upcoming match, I am not sure whether Napoli can get additional points, which is certain don't expect too much anymore.
Roma appeared very impressive and in the match against Napoli Lukaku looked very aggressive and produced 1 winning score for Roma and I am sure Mourinho is very proud of this revenge.

Napoli did their best to hold the game but Roma held onto the home advantage and proved to be the better side. Mazarri took this job with a task given to him, he's got to meet the target or risk his job at the club. There's boo much time for leniency and he should be proactive at his decisions for the the team. Maybe the player shortcomings were a part of the game outcome but still there ought to be provisions for a covering up. Roma are fighting to get back in the race in the league and so is Napoli too. They don't have leisure to take chances and so if anyone chooses to slack, they just have to bear the consequence.

I wouldn't advise any team to just overlook some games. In as much as it may not necessarily be their fault for an unfavorable outcome, they really just have to put in extra strength to work out victories.There are still weeks ahead and corrections should be made. In the coming weeks, Mazarri would be watched sternly and his performance and impact on his squad will be weighed and assessed.

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Quote from: leonair on December 24, 2023, 06:07:15 AM

Napoli's quality of play has dropped a lot from their previous performances, they have been playing much better in the Italian league but why are they playing so badly this time around. They have been seen at the top of the points table for most of the time but this time they have moved to the 7th position. This is really funny. Even with a team like Roma, they won the match 2-0 today, so wasn't it because of Napoli's weakness? So why don't you blame them for their losses? It happened because Napoli played carelessly

Napoli management is not in good condition after the departure of a figure who played a very important role in last season's success. Serie A has become unfavorable for Napoli again and they have to admit that they deserve to be in 7th position. In their last match against Roma, for 90 minutes they were only able to make 2 shots on target their performance dropped drastically, there was no aggressive play as usual, Osimhen and Matteo were also given red cards so the empty attack line clearly gave Roma a big advantage in bombarding the defense which had lost the key game.

I have lost confidence in Napoli as they can no longer finish as top four in the league anymore due to their inconsistency and poor performance in their matches. Rudi Garcia is not a good that can lead Napoli to success because he is not an expert in the coaching field.

It was a bad day for Napoli yesterday as both strikers were given red card and they were left with no striker, which gave Roma the opportunity to win all three points. If not for that Napoli played with two men down, it would have been difficult for Roma to win the match. If Napoli continue in this way, they might not qualify to Europa cup next season because I know that it is impossible for Napoli to qualify to the champions league.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 24, 2023, 10:04:08 AM

Bologna's victory over Atalanta was also quite surprising because both teams were at the same level and I thought the match would end in a draw. But the result was a narrow 1-0 win for Bologna and indeed home advantage is something that is very profitable for Bologna in this match.

The support from Bologna fans was never-ending and that was what resulted in the only goal being scored in the 86th minute which sealed Bologna's victory at home. In fact, Atalanta wasn't that bad either because they also repeatedly threatened Bologna's goal, but the finishing from their players was still felt to be lacking.

The additional 3 points make Bologna more comfortable sitting in 4th position in the standings, but the difference from Fiorentina is only 1 point, which makes their position in the range of being shifted if they get a draw or defeat in the next match. But as long as they can solidify a win like this, Bologna will be able to stay in their current position for longer.

Last week Bologna beat AS Roma and now Bologna has also managed to beat Atalanta. I think the victory that Bologna got really proves that this season their performance has improved very rapidly. In contrast to Bologna last season, which almost didn't get any attention from people at all. Even last season Bologna had to fight very hard to get into 10th place. And Bologna ended last season in 9th place. But it's really hard to believe because now Bologna seems to be getting stronger in 4th place in the standings.

And in the next matches I think Bologna will continue to collect more points. Because in the next few weeks there will no longer be a team as strong as Atalanta and Roma that will confront them. The obstacles that will be faced are still quite long, namely on matchday 22 against Milan. Well, before we get there, I think Bologna will get more wins first. And it would be extraordinary if Bologna ultimately managed to finish in the top 4.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 24, 2023, 10:04:08 AM

Bologna's victory over Atalanta was also quite surprising because both teams were at the same level and I thought the match would end in a draw. But the result was a narrow 1-0 win for Bologna and indeed home advantage is something that is very profitable for Bologna in this match.

The support from Bologna fans was never-ending and that was what resulted in the only goal being scored in the 86th minute which sealed Bologna's victory at home. In fact, Atalanta wasn't that bad either because they also repeatedly threatened Bologna's goal, but the finishing from their players was still felt to be lacking.

The additional 3 points make Bologna more comfortable sitting in 4th position in the standings, but the difference from Fiorentina is only 1 point, which makes their position in the range of being shifted if they get a draw or defeat in the next match. But as long as they can solidify a win like this, Bologna will be able to stay in their current position for longer.

Exactly my man, One would think that the game would've swinged that way ( A full time draw ) but Bologna kept them cool and defended like they should to win all three points at home in the presence and support of the home fans who gave them unwavering support until the end of the game.

Nigerian International Ademola Lookman was the major force in that game for Atalanta as he was dangerously causing problems for the defense of bologna. They should bjave scored more than three goals if they had converted the chances they had.
Thiago Motta has really been doing a lot, they be sitting at the first four clubs in the first half. They could qualify for the first four clubs if they get to double up them performance.

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