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Quote from: bering on December 06, 2023, 02:26:51 AM

There are some big matches will be available this weekend

Juventus vs Napoli
Atalanta vs Milan
Roma vs Fiorentina

For the match between Juventus vs Napoli i haven't checked the odds yet but i will assume Juventus is the favourite because we all know as a defending champion Napoli performance was quite dissapoint this season and this also makes they have to changing manager from Rudi Garcia to Walter Mazzari and their recent match result also doesn't really good because Napoli has just lose from Inter Milan with big scores and in this match too i feel like Napoli will be suffering another lose because their opponent Juventus is in the good shape now and their performance was quite stable and Juventus has just joined with Inter Milan for race title so my prediction is Juventus will going to win this match with narrow score

I checked the odds and you are right that Juventus is indeed the favorite with odds @ 2.42 and the visiting team with odds @ 3.00 and a draw with odds @3.00, with odds that are not that different the betting market seems to see that Napoli still has a chance to win or at least get a draw, and I agree that Juventus is in very good shape this season in contrast to Napoli who are still trying to rediscover their best form.
However, from the three matches above, what is interesting is that Atlanta is more favored than AC Milan even though the difference in odds is quite small, the home team which has just suffered a fairly heavy defeat to Torino may also experience another defeat because AC Milan is currently in good shape after three matches quite disappointing and AC Milan is also still trying to ensure that the point difference is not too far from Juventus or Inter Milan to maintain their chances of challenging for the championship this season.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 05, 2023, 10:47:38 PM

Osimhen's performance has been declining so hard once spalletti has announced that he left from napoli. The new coach was unable in exploring his performance like spalltti did. It's a set back for napoli. Osimhen's stat is very bad compared to the last season.
Kvarat was also getting snowballing impact caused by the decision by spalletti to left from there.The impact from spalletti was also really big. It was even making its opponents were so careful when they were facing napoli.
Things are so different right now. Napoli is not the same like what it used to be. The new coach was not able bringing the golden time of napoli last season. This club is performing so badly.
It seems like that the chance is pretty small for napoli to get back to back champion with the current performance. Im very skeptical toward this club.

the statistics are wrong since they don't know how to use it in team strategy properly
it's not possible for a player to be top scorer one year and the worst in Serie A a year later, something doesn't add up
I opt for Rudi Garcia who did more damage than anything else, he was like a bomb

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on December 06, 2023, 02:08:02 AM

He may have some reasons of his own. Spaletti may be a good coach, but he is a human being first and foremost and his priorities can change. He may have some problems that he cannot explain to everyone and that is why he left Napoli. That's why it's not right to blame him because the team he built has become like his child. Doesn't he want to be with you in the continuation of your success? There must have been a serious reason why he had to quit coaching.

Yes that's right. He has his own reasons to leave Napoli after winning the Tropy Serie A with Napoli even though a lot of news developed he died Napoli because of salary problems but for me it was not the reason. Sometimes love is deeper, he must go, they cannot give everything that is appropriate for him. When he trains Napoli, he trains with an intimate approach for each player, in addition to Spaletti's tactics working well because he has a player who is ready to fight with each other.

But as long as Napoli lived in Spaletti, Napoli immediately changed drastically this season which made me sad after a beautiful year last year. I still hope they can still get the top four until the end of the season in Serie A and can get out of the UCL group stage.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on December 05, 2023, 10:12:03 PM

Not that Napoli isn't a good club, they are and that's why they showed that sign of improvement last season that almost got them into the semi finals of the Champions League, I believe that's the best they have gone in a long while. This season hasn't been too great for them, and is like a cures to every team that won the league title will don't perform well the next season.

Napoli is facing a tough season this season, their performance continues to decline, meaning that their position in fourth place is taken over by Roma and they have to drop to fifth place. The improvement in performance experienced by Roma is very significant, after only being able to achieve 1 win in the first six weeks of this season, Jose Mourinho troops have now succeeded in being in the top four.
Now Roma performance is very different compared to the first six weeks of Serie A, their goal productivity has also increased. Roma increasing performance could be a threat to Napoli, if their performance continues to decline, Napoli will be in danger of failing to finish in the top four.

The top 4 is a serious danger for Napoli this year. Because there are serious losses in their performance and they are losing big points even though they are almost the same squad as last year. Rome passed them, they won't make much of a difference, but we can watch a head-to-head fight between the four teams. It's time for Napoli to be more careful.

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Quote from: reagansimms on December 06, 2023, 02:03:02 AM

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on December 05, 2023, 10:12:03 PM

Not that Napoli isn't a good club, they are and that's why they showed that sign of improvement last season that almost got them into the semi finals of the Champions League, I believe that's the best they have gone in a long while. This season hasn't been too great for them, and is like a cures to every team that won the league title will don't perform well the next season.

Napoli is facing a tough season this season, their performance continues to decline, meaning that their position in fourth place is taken over by Roma and they have to drop to fifth place. The improvement in performance experienced by Roma is very significant, after only being able to achieve 1 win in the first six weeks of this season, Jose Mourinho troops have now succeeded in being in the top four.
Now Roma performance is very different compared to the first six weeks of Serie A, their goal productivity has also increased. Roma increasing performance could be a threat to Napoli, if their performance continues to decline, Napoli will be in danger of failing to finish in the top four.

I agree with you on Napoli being poor this season and I believe they won't go far in the champions league and talking about Roma, I'm quite impressed with the way they climbed up the that very position they are now. Was expecting them to be struggling with form and all of a sudden they got that consistency back.
At this point I can't even see Napoli beating any team without struggling, they must concede a goal and winning against Roma is not going to happen as it is.
The former champions, talking about Napoli won't make it to the champions league next season if they don't do anything about their form and I wish V. Osimhen would take the chance of leaving the club if a better team comes calling.

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There are some big matches will be available this weekend

Juventus vs Napoli
Atalanta vs Milan
Roma vs Fiorentina

For the match between Juventus vs Napoli i haven't checked the odds yet but i will assume Juventus is the favourite because we all know as a defending champion Napoli performance was quite dissapoint this season and this also makes they have to changing manager from Rudi Garcia to Walter Mazzari and their recent match result also doesn't really good because Napoli has just lose from Inter Milan with big scores and in this match too i feel like Napoli will be suffering another lose because their opponent Juventus is in the good shape now and their performance was quite stable and Juventus has just joined with Inter Milan for race title so my prediction is Juventus will going to win this match with narrow score

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Quote from: borovichok on December 05, 2023, 10:55:54 PM

Quote from: X-ray on December 05, 2023, 10:47:38 PM

Osimhen's performance has been declining so hard once spalletti has announced that he left from napoli. The new coach was unable in exploring his performance like spalltti did. It's a set back for napoli. Osimhen's stat is very bad compared to the last season.
Kvarat was also getting snowballing impact caused by the decision by spalletti to left from there.The impact from spalletti was also really big. It was even making its opponents were so careful when they were facing napoli.
Things are so different right now. Napoli is not the same like what it used to be. The new coach was not able bringing the golden time of napoli last season. This club is performing so badly.
It seems like that the chance is pretty small for napoli to get back to back champion with the current performance. Im very skeptical toward this club.

Watching a formidable club that was struggling developing to become one of the toughest club under Luciano Spalleti but now emphasize on the club's structure and performance in matches. There's absolutely nothing improving about them, I wouldn't blame Aurelio De Laurentiis for the current situation on ground, instead I blame Luciano Spalleti for the wrong decision he decided to go through the exits of the Diego Maradona stadium with brief informative excuses of longing to have enough time to spend with his family and private life.

He may have some reasons of his own. Spaletti may be a good coach, but he is a human being first and foremost and his priorities can change. He may have some problems that he cannot explain to everyone and that is why he left Napoli. That's why it's not right to blame him because the team he built has become like his child. Doesn't he want to be with you in the continuation of your success? There must have been a serious reason why he had to quit coaching.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on December 05, 2023, 10:12:03 PM

Not that Napoli isn't a good club, they are and that's why they showed that sign of improvement last season that almost got them into the semi finals of the Champions League, I believe that's the best they have gone in a long while. This season hasn't been too great for them, and is like a cures to every team that won the league title will don't perform well the next season.

Napoli is facing a tough season this season, their performance continues to decline, meaning that their position in fourth place is taken over by Roma and they have to drop to fifth place. The improvement in performance experienced by Roma is very significant, after only being able to achieve 1 win in the first six weeks of this season, Jose Mourinho troops have now succeeded in being in the top four.
Now Roma performance is very different compared to the first six weeks of Serie A, their goal productivity has also increased. Roma increasing performance could be a threat to Napoli, if their performance continues to decline, Napoli will be in danger of failing to finish in the top four.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 05, 2023, 11:17:04 PM

Spalletti decision was not wrong, he had chosen his own path without any pressure from any party. Now Napoli is sinking even further after shining last season, his departure has created a deep longing for Napoli fans who have succeeded in leading Napoli to win the Scudetto race.

Spalletti departure was not without reason, he had predicted this would happen, the competition this season is much tougher than last season. Rather than being berated by Napoli fans for being deemed unable to maintain his team's performance and the worst possibility ending with his dismissal, he chose to leave honorably with all the beauty he left behind.
Everyone must respect his decision, the reason for his departure is also very reasonable even though there are other things that have not been revealed to the public.

You're right, we all have our paths to follow and my personal decisions to carry out this season, absolutely no room for relenting for efforts when Luciano Spalleti was incharge, he develop and reinstated his pattern and it have one of the very competitive stats for Napoli but these new coaches lack the experience and I believed the board doesn't also give time for them to excelled in the club. Napoli never planned for Luciano Spalleti to exits the club after winning the scudetto for the club, he was opportune to decides his fate for the club and the only thing that came through his mind was to leave? Luciano Spalleti dissapoints everyone the moment he walk through those doors of Maradona stadium.

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Quote from: borovichok on December 05, 2023, 10:55:54 PM

Quote from: X-ray on December 05, 2023, 10:47:38 PM

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Watching a formidable club that was struggling developing to become one of the toughest club under Luciano Spalleti but now emphasize on the club's structure and performance in matches. There's absolutely nothing improving about them, I wouldn't blame Aurelio De Laurentiis for the current situation on ground, instead I blame Luciano Spalleti for the wrong decision he decided to go through the exits of the Diego Maradona stadium with brief informative excuses of longing to have enough time to spend with his family and private life.

Spalletti decision was not wrong, he had chosen his own path without any pressure from any party. Now Napoli is sinking even further after shining last season, his departure has created a deep longing for Napoli fans who have succeeded in leading Napoli to win the Scudetto race.

Spalletti departure was not without reason, he had predicted this would happen, the competition this season is much tougher than last season. Rather than being berated by Napoli fans for being deemed unable to maintain his team's performance and the worst possibility ending with his dismissal, he chose to leave honorably with all the beauty he left behind.
Everyone must respect his decision, the reason for his departure is also very reasonable even though there are other things that have not been revealed to the public.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 05, 2023, 10:47:38 PM

Osimhen's performance has been declining so hard once spalletti has announced that he left from napoli. The new coach was unable in exploring his performance like spalltti did. It's a set back for napoli. Osimhen's stat is very bad compared to the last season.
Kvarat was also getting snowballing impact caused by the decision by spalletti to left from there.The impact from spalletti was also really big. It was even making its opponents were so careful when they were facing napoli.
Things are so different right now. Napoli is not the same like what it used to be. The new coach was not able bringing the golden time of napoli last season. This club is performing so badly.
It seems like that the chance is pretty small for napoli to get back to back champion with the current performance. Im very skeptical toward this club.

Watching a formidable club that was struggling developing to become one of the toughest club under Luciano Spalleti but now emphasize on the club's structure and performance in matches. There's absolutely nothing improving about them, I wouldn't blame Aurelio De Laurentiis for the current situation on ground, instead I blame Luciano Spalleti for the wrong decision he decided to go through the exits of the Diego Maradona stadium with brief informative excuses of longing to have enough time to spend with his family and private life.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on December 05, 2023, 09:51:40 PM

Quote from: Smack That Ace on December 05, 2023, 07:41:45 PM

I actually do not think that he's going to extend his contract. Because as far as I know, he does not feel at home in the club. It will definitely be a big surprise for me if he does renew his contract. I would like to see him go to a big English Premier League club. He definitely has the capability of performing for a big English Premier League club. So for me, it is not going to be surprising if he does that. I think it will probably take a little time for him to actually settle down in the English Premier League. But I think he is very much capable of doing that. I just don't think he will actually be able to unlock his full potential if he stays in Napoli.

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I think so too. Because after V.Osimhen was a little disrespected when a video mocking him circulated. I think since then Osimhen started not being motivated to play optimally at Napoli. We can see that now Osimhen is not as productive as he was last season. He became less aggressive. Like a lack of motivation. I think Osimhen harbors quite reasonable disappointment. Because last season he was like a hero who brought Napoli to the title. And this season he actually had to feel hurt by some of the noise that occurred on social media which was made by the club's social media account which made posts about Osimhen. Even though the video or post was quickly deleted, everything has already spread. And Osimhen might consider going to another club. When his contract ends or when another club makes a good offer. But currently Osimhen's contract at Napoli is still quite long. that is, until 2025. I doubt Osimhen will wait until his contract is up.

Osimhen's performance has been declining so hard once spalletti has announced that he left from napoli. The new coach was unable in exploring his performance like spalltti did. It's a set back for napoli. Osimhen's stat is very bad compared to the last season.
Kvarat was also getting snowballing impact caused by the decision by spalletti to left from there.The impact from spalletti was also really big. It was even making its opponents were so careful when they were facing napoli.
Things are so different right now. Napoli is not the same like what it used to be. The new coach was not able bringing the golden time of napoli last season. This club is performing so badly.
It seems like that the chance is pretty small for napoli to get back to back champion with the current performance. Im very skeptical toward this club.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on December 05, 2023, 10:26:44 PM

Juventus are not playing in many competitions this season so it is advantageous for them to focus on Serie A and can also avoid player fatigue and injuries. The match between Juventus vs Inter Milan ended in a draw where both teams were only able to score one goal each in the match. The competition between Inter Milan and Juventus will be even more exciting because the points between the two are quite close, which will give rise to a much more competitive rivalry.

Almost all teams will have difficulty focusing in many competitions because it can make players tired and injured, especially if the squad they have is not comparable so it is difficult to rotate. But Inter Milan can definitely overcome that even though in the end they failed to win many titles in one season.

I don't think it will have a big impact on the team, in fact teams that play in several competitions, especially those that play in European competitions, will have greater motivation and will also be able to build a more solid chemistry within a team to show or maintain their consistency.
However, for Juventus, who do not have a qualified squad this season, between the core players and the back-up players, they have a slight advantage because they only need to focus on their Serie A matches.

And it must be admitted that Juventus' performance this season has improved quite significantly when compared to last season so that now they can compete at the top of the standings for the Scudetto.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on December 05, 2023, 07:51:26 PM

Juventus have very strong squad with similar quality and strength like Inter Milan but they have an advantage that can be helpful for them to take Scudetto against Inter Milan in this season. They will have to play only in Serie A and Scudetto is the only big title they are aiming at in this season. It's very different than Inter Milan that play and compete in both Serie A and Champions League.

With a final match in Champions League last season and unfortunately failed against Manchester City, Inter Milan will really want to play as best as possible in Champions League and hope that they will have another final match. This obsession will cause big issues for Inter Milan in their competition with Juventus in Serie A. They are strong but it is always hard to play in two big competitions to win both titles and Juventus can take advantage of this.

Juventus are not playing in many competitions this season so it is advantageous for them to focus on Serie A and can also avoid player fatigue and injuries. The match between Juventus vs Inter Milan ended in a draw where both teams were only able to score one goal each in the match. The competition between Inter Milan and Juventus will be even more exciting because the points between the two are quite close, which will give rise to a much more competitive rivalry.

Almost all teams will have difficulty focusing in many competitions because it can make players tired and injured, especially if the squad they have is not comparable so it is difficult to rotate. But Inter Milan can definitely overcome that even though in the end they failed to win many titles in one season.

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Quote from: hahay on December 05, 2023, 10:56:26 AM

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Victor Osimhen extending his contract at Napoli is something I never expected to happen after everything that happened with the striker and the club. I feel this player is just doing it for the money and I don't think he would stay beyond 2025 and the clause attached to his contract is going to be around $100m, but it hasn't been signed.
Well if he's not doing it for the money I think Napoli board doesn't want to lose on both side just like what's happening at PSG, I really just wish a better club would come and get him before the start of January transfer.

Yes, it would be a shame if Osimhen extended his contract at Napoli. Because ya, ofcourse it would be better for Osimhen to play at a better and big club out there that atleast, has good results also in the Champions League in every season and not only good in the domestic league. Osimhen is still young so of course, it would be more appropriate if Osimhen left because I am sure, if Osimhen leaves of course Osimhen will also get paid handsomely. Therefore, if for example Osimhen extends his contract at Napoli, I amsure it has nothing to do about money.

Not that Napoli isn't a good club, they are and that's why they showed that sign of improvement last season that almost got them into the semi finals of the Champions League, I believe that's the best they have gone in a long while. This season hasn't been too great for them, and is like a cures to every team that won the league title will don't perform well the next season.
To me is not at the money for a young player like him, I have come to understand that it has to be done that way just to increase his wages, high pay and I know for sure that Napoli won't have anything to lose at the end of the deal, that's if any better club comes for him. I feel they asked for the contract to be extended just to get something out from it and is never about his selfish interest I think.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on December 05, 2023, 07:41:45 PM

I actually do not think that he's going to extend his contract. Because as far as I know, he does not feel at home in the club. It will definitely be a big surprise for me if he does renew his contract. I would like to see him go to a big English Premier League club. He definitely has the capability of performing for a big English Premier League club. So for me, it is not going to be surprising if he does that. I think it will probably take a little time for him to actually settle down in the English Premier League. But I think he is very much capable of doing that. I just don't think he will actually be able to unlock his full potential if he stays in Napoli.

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I think so too. Because after V.Osimhen was a little disrespected when a video mocking him circulated. I think since then Osimhen started not being motivated to play optimally at Napoli. We can see that now Osimhen is not as productive as he was last season. He became less aggressive. Like a lack of motivation. I think Osimhen harbors quite reasonable disappointment. Because last season he was like a hero who brought Napoli to the title. And this season he actually had to feel hurt by some of the noise that occurred on social media which was made by the club's social media account which made posts about Osimhen. Even though the video or post was quickly deleted, everything has already spread. And Osimhen might consider going to another club. When his contract ends or when another club makes a good offer. But currently Osimhen's contract at Napoli is still quite long. that is, until 2025. I doubt Osimhen will wait until his contract is up.

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He's still a young lad but all I see in him is a complete leader and legend. He should be a role model to the younger players from his country still dreaming and hoping they make it pro! Two awards to his name last night and I was so excited seeing that for the Nigerian big man. Why extend his contract with a club that disrespected you after everything last season? Let's not forget he said no to Saudi Arabia for a deal that would be worth 1 Billion Naira in the Nigerian Currency to remain with Napoli and this is how they treat him ?

He should move to the Premier League. He'll definitely win the Champions League with Chelsea in the nearest future with them. He's the best attacking option for Chelsea. I'll love to see it happening.

I think extending his contract and playing in other clubs are not mutually exclusive. He could extend his contract and then he could end up with being sold to another team for a lot of money, Napoli trusted him and gave him time when he wasn't this great, and then he got better and better and showed himself there, it would be nice gesture to extend his contract before he leaves and then he leaves for a bigger club.

Of course if Napoli insists on not selling him, or keep asking 150+ for him then I would say that it is his right not to extend his contract and leave, there is no need to let Napoli block his move. I am not sure what the situation is like that for them, but it could definitely be worth it if he is allowed to leave.

Chelsea is a decent option. but I think we also have to remember that the current performance of Chelsea has not been very good. So he will have to be careful about going to Chelsea. If he actually goes to Chelsea, people are going to expect him to perform from day one. And for a player like him, it will be important to settle down in certain surroundings. if he cannot do that, and he thinks that the expectations are too much from himself, he is going to be a problem. And we have seen very recently a few players not being able to perform well in the English Premier League after moving from the Serie A

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Quote from: Doell on December 05, 2023, 04:30:36 PM

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Betting on Atalanta would be a bad luck to you because they would have disappointed you and you will secure a loss. Torino players deserves the three points as they won very easy.

This match make me surprise, and of course disappointed for me. The reason is, I also think Atalanta will probably win and bet on them, because maybe they will be more motivated to steal points. But what happened, Atalanta was beaten very bad and on that game Atalanta couldn't score a single goal.
Now in the last Serie A five matches, Atalanta has not a good record. And in the next match against Milan, I think Atalanta will not get full points. Even, maybe they can't get a draw result. Because on paper Milan is better, and they are also ahead when meet Atalanta based on head to head in last five matches.

Atalanta's record for the last 5 matches has only been 1 win and this is a bad result, the talak defeat to Torino was the worst and embarrassing. Now the two clubs are only 1 point apart and Atalanta must immediately improve the team's performance so as not to lose their place in the top 10. Torino only mediocre team from season to season but this club cannot be underestimated. Torino this season is showing its best and trying to climb to a better ranking than before.

In the next match, you have to be careful because even though Atalanta is playing at home, Atalanta's opponent is quite tough, namely AC Milan, even though Milan is also not in a stable condition, recently AC Milan has appeared impressive and was able to beat Fiorentina and Frosinone, but that took place at Milan's home ground and Milan can make good use of their advantage this time. Milan will play away from home, both teams still have a chance to get the full 3 points and I see that Atalanta's home game is quite good against mediocre teams but bad against elite teams so maybe I will bet on Ac Milan in the next match. .

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 05, 2023, 06:22:04 PM

I'm happy to see Juventus race for the first place in the Serie A because I was predicting to see Juventus win the Serie A and I can even bet on this team because I'm totally sure that Juventus is in the good form enough and because of not playing in the Champions League like other teams do, they can have higher chance compared to Inter Milan.

Juventus have very strong squad with similar quality and strength like Inter Milan but they have an advantage that can be helpful for them to take Scudetto against Inter Milan in this season. They will have to play only in Serie A and Scudetto is the only big title they are aiming at in this season. It's very different than Inter Milan that play and compete in both Serie A and Champions League.

With a final match in Champions League last season and unfortunately failed against Manchester City, Inter Milan will really want to play as best as possible in Champions League and hope that they will have another final match. This obsession will cause big issues for Inter Milan in their competition with Juventus in Serie A. They are strong but it is always hard to play in two big competitions to win both titles and Juventus can take advantage of this.

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Quote from: Richbased on December 05, 2023, 04:50:37 PM

Yeah the both clubs have been dragging the top of the table for some weeks now though I prefer Inter Milan because they score lots of goals in their matches and nothing gives a team more confidence in matches is if they are actually scoring more goals, like teams are always afraid when they meet a club that wins with high goal difference and if a team can score goals, then they definitely gonna win matches so I'm more satisfied with Inter Milan form rather than Juventus. Juventus is a club that though they win their matches but their goal difference ain't much such that their opponents can easily equalize their goals if they have the opportunity to score.

Juventus is actually having quite a hard time at the moment after 2 of their players were suspended and banned from playing. Like what happened to Paul Pogba and Nicolò Fagioli. And plus there are 2 other quite important players who are also still injured, namely Timothy Weah and Mattia De Sciglio. So it is not surprising that even though Juventus can win a match, they prefer to play it safe by strengthening their defense recently. Usually Juventus is the same productive type as Inter Milan. But this time it seems Allegri prefers to play more safely with their squad being quite limited and not having many good second-string players. Meanwhile, Inter Milan is currently in full confidence throughout the season. It's no surprise that they are the most productive this time. And yes, in terms of performance, I also prefer to see Inter Milan. But I always feel sorry for Juventus. So I hope this season can be theirs. They have experienced many difficulties from various sanctions received by both the club and their players. Everything seems to be going smoothly for Juventus for now. So I hope that this season everything can change for the better for Juventus.

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