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I also think so and in my opinion it is better to avoid betting on this match, it is very risky to bet on an inconsistent team like Napoli especially since the betting market is very favorable towards them.
From what happened in Napoli's last few matches and also Victor Osimhen's inconsistent performance, everything is possible to happen in this weekend's match against Verona, and it is true that Verona's quality is not better than Napoli, but the consistency of a team is very crucial, and I try to avoid betting on this match, I think it's better.

There are plenty of other matches to bet on if you are hesitant to bet on the Verona vs Napoli match, and it looks like there won't be any more matches this week in Serie A than Milan and Juventus. But I will also enjoy some of the matches for tomorrow in Serie A even though I don't place bets anywhere because tomorrow there are only three matches in Serie A with opponents who are not quite evenly matched in strength so there won't be any matches that might be more exciting.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 20, 2023, 09:33:06 AM

I was pleasantly surprised by Fiorentina, this team is playing really well. Prandelli had also said not to underestimate the Fiorentina, that the team was growing significantly and was experimenting with new tactical forms and strategies. You can see, I would like to say, they beat Napoli.

Early on, Fiorentina is growing rapidly but will this only be at the beginning or be able to maintain until the end of the season? I say it's still very difficult for Fiorentina.
Previously beating Napoli away from home was of course a surprise let alone winning 1-3 Fiorentina are now in a new form as well as with the strategy, I think this might be a good start, if they continue to be able to beat equal opponents why it is not possible to continue to survive until half of the season.

It was quite surprising indeed for Fiorentina with its development this season, and also defeated the Serie A champion last season with a very high point namely Napoli with a score of 3-1, V.italiano really gave a very significant change to Fiorentina this season very well.
But I am still doubtful, because now it can still be calculated into the session of the start of the season, which, if Fiorentina cannot reduce its development continuously, the strategy will be easy to guess and break by other teams.

While Napoli itself can be said to experience a downturn at the beginning of this season, because its competitors are getting stronger and continue to grow, I will give a little prediction that for the end of this season Napoli will not get the glory like last season.

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Quote from: temple on October 19, 2023, 06:30:59 PM

If there is any intention to have Osimhen stay with Napoli beyond this season, then putting him on the bench would be a pretty bad idea as he would lose market value and he would lose interest in further negotiating with Napoli. That is why I am sure that as soon as he is available again, he won't spend any time on the bench unless it is necessary for reasons like recovery and slowly getting him back into the game. I think the chances for Giovanni Simeone to take the first role against Osimhen are very small. There is too much risk and potential damage involved for such a decision.

It is a bad situation, I myself am very disappointed with what happened and I am not a Napoli fan
when these things happen we really feel sad for sport, in the end even if we support a different team we love sport and good matches
knowing that a good player is afflicted and cannot give his best is very sad and greatly disappoints those who love sport

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 20, 2023, 09:33:06 AM

I was pleasantly surprised by Fiorentina, this team is playing really well. Prandelli had also said not to underestimate the Fiorentina, that the team was growing significantly and was experimenting with new tactical forms and strategies. You can see, I would like to say, they beat Napoli.

Early on, Fiorentina is growing rapidly but will this only be at the beginning or be able to maintain until the end of the season? I say it's still very difficult for Fiorentina.
Previously beating Napoli away from home was of course a surprise let alone winning 1-3 Fiorentina are now in a new form as well as with the strategy, I think this might be a good start, if they continue to be able to beat equal opponents why it is not possible to continue to survive until half of the season.

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Why do we even speak about Empoli here ? This team is a disgrace for Serie A right now with only 1 goal scored and I wouldn't be surprised if another round of illegal betting or something similar will emerge and Empoli name will be on that list because lets be honest here , we are talking about one of the strongest internal championships in Europe and after 8 games it's not normal for a team to have only 1 goal scored. Anyway , I'm certain Empoli will relegate by the end of the season as there are a few really strong teams who deserve a chance to Serie A. Cool

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 20, 2023, 09:33:06 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 19, 2023, 06:10:46 PM

Fiorentina have been one of the team on the rise as you know. Their next game is going to be against Empoli home. I already see a win there for Fiorentina honestly. Empoli changed their manager a short time ago but I don't expect this to make them resist Fiorentina strongly here. They would need some time to recover.

Fiorentina beat even Napoli away recently and they are in great shape now. They can even be in the race for top 4 this season if they keep this form during the first half of the season.

I was pleasantly surprised by Fiorentina, this team is playing really well. Prandelli had also said not to underestimate the Fiorentina, that the team was growing significantly and was experimenting with new tactical forms and strategies. You can see, I would like to say, they beat Napoli.

Fiorentina was able to play well against Empoli because Empoli is a very weak team and they lost a few days ago with Roma, 7-0. But Fiorentina can be a strong team and can't beat Napoli easily. Napoli is a popular team in the Italian league who always lead the points table every time. So beating Napoli will be a huge challenge for Fiorentina. But Fiorentina has done it this time. Fiorentina has also overtaken Napoli in the points table. Napoli look very weak this time

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When a player is suspended, the whole team is informed and when a club has been confronted with it many times in the past, they have an intense way of controlling it all. And everyone knows the story of juventus and the scandal and the relegation to Serie B, this fear mybe still exists in the management. In the last season the point deduction, 2x, and now it continues with the players. It is like being unwell, which leads in many cases to a turbulence, so no extreme good performances as a team. How would you feel if you were supended from your dream of being a soccer player, not good, and mybe the team also.

Not everything can depend on the team, if the management does some kind of financial fraud, then the players may not even be informed about it, but in the end everyone suffers (when the team was sent to Serie B).

Also, the team cannot control players who may use doping, of their own free will or with any medications. In this case, the player, and not the entire team, will be responsible for his actions.

Juventus is playing better this season and I even hoped that they would be able to compete for the Scudetto, but now Alegre is involved in a scandal with bets, and he faces disqualification for 3 years. This looks like a lack of discipline in the team and not due to some kind of bad luck.

Therefore, basically Juventus does not seem to have healthy management because obviously, with so many problems that happen will certainly have an impact on team performance . After all, the fact is Juventus also had a good performance last season but unfortunately, with the point deduction penalty that Juventus experienced last season . Of course, made Juventus look like they did not have a big motivation to compete stronger and better in the top four . Also at this moment, although Juventus is only focused on Serie A but in fact, I judge that Juventus is stillnot completely good at this moment. What's more, iffor example Juventus have another problem this season or at this moment, then I sure Juventus will again decline in performance and quality this season and it is inevitable if for example Juventus have another problem.

Juventus' performance in this league is still good now. But sometimes their performance is seen to drop a lot. In the game of football, it is natural that no team will be able to win the match all the time. Juventus is in the 3rd position in the points table so far. However, Milan and Inter are playing very well this time and they are still ahead of Juventus by many points. If Juventus pay more attention to their performance they will be able to do better. this trust can be placed on them

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Quote from: tusandii on October 20, 2023, 02:57:54 AM

Actually, I have already stated some of my opinions in other threads, but here perhaps more people will provide opinions to strengthen my beliefs.
I have a little doubt about Napoli who will play against Verona and my doubts always focus on their mainstay player, Victor Osimhen, who currently looks erratic or inconsistent, has had a slight decline in performance and I doubt if Napoli can win this away match even though Verona is considered not very strong but they got home advantage and had the opportunity to use a defensive strategy and end the match in a draw.
I'm worried that a surprise will happen in this match while I also placed a bet on this match.

I don't even plan to bet on Napoli winning that match. Because Napoli, who will not be strengthened by Osimhen, will clearly experience a decline in building attacks. For me, this match is more likely to end in a draw. Osimhen's injury will clearly have a big impact. Even though Osimhen will only be absent in the next 3 matches. But Napoli will definitely have difficulties in these 3 matches. Because they are used to relying on Osimhen at the spearhead of their attacks.

And Napoli's performance was even a little disappointing in their last match. like when Napoli had to accept defeat at home to Fiorentina. I think this has made everyone start to doubt this team's performance this season. Because usually Napoli are unbeatable when playing as hosts. But this season is completely different.

@Arenga I personally feel that one should avoid wagering on Napoli because they’re in complete mess and I’m not surprised if their decline continues. Furthermore I’m eagerly waiting for Victor to leave the club because he deserves a better club who values him and matches his ambitions and sadly Napoli is no longer that club and lastly I’m hoping that he can secure a transfer away as early as the January transfer window.

The truth is that Napoli are currently in declining in form and recently the most lethal weapon which is the club's striker Victor Osimhen picked up an injury while he was in playing for his country Nigeria during the FIFA international break.
That being said, I don't think Napoli are now a finished club that can't still deliver good results. They play away against Verona tomorrow and I'm optimistic that Napoli will win that very game.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 20, 2023, 09:33:06 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 19, 2023, 06:10:46 PM

Fiorentina have been one of the team on the rise as you know. Their next game is going to be against Empoli home. I already see a win there for Fiorentina honestly. Empoli changed their manager a short time ago but I don't expect this to make them resist Fiorentina strongly here. They would need some time to recover.

Fiorentina beat even Napoli away recently and they are in great shape now. They can even be in the race for top 4 this season if they keep this form during the first half of the season.

I was pleasantly surprised by Fiorentina, this team is playing really well. Prandelli had also said not to underestimate the Fiorentina, that the team was growing significantly and was experimenting with new tactical forms and strategies. You can see, I would like to say, they beat Napoli.

Playing at home against Empoli, who are currently in the relegation zone, is certainly a very good moment for Fiorentina to get three points again. After all, basically I also never underestimate Fiorentina because yes, I still remember very well when in the past Fiorentina had a very good form too when there was still Batistuta. So yes, because I am aware of history, I never underestimated Fiorentina until now. Until finally, this season Fiorentina managed to regain their best form and currently Fiorentina can also compete in the top four and of course that is a great development that Fiorentina has managed to have this season.

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Quote from: hahay on October 20, 2023, 07:54:22 AM

Therefore, basically Juventus does not seem to have healthy management because obviously, with so many problems that happen will certainly have an impact on team performance . After all, the fact is Juventus also had a good performance last season but unfortunately, with the point deduction penalty that Juventus experienced last season .

They have good management and strategies that make them a greatest club in Italy. Their participation in Superb League project harms them a lot and I believe punishment they got from EUFA actually comes from their intention to join Superb League project. The doping case of Pogba is unexpected but what happened with Fagioli is like personal issue of the player.

Generally Juventus will have many difficulties in this season even they got Chiesa back. I disagree with Juventus with their treatment on Bonucci as he is one of their legendary players. I don't know their internal issues but on tip of iceberg, with what I saw, I can not agree with Juventus as they should give Bonucci more respect from all contributions he made for them.

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Of course, made Juventus look like they did not have a big motivation to compete stronger and better in the top four . Also at this moment, although Juventus is only focused on Serie A but in fact, I judge that Juventus is stillnot completely good at this moment.

They can complete this season in top four and return to Champions League. It is their biggest task in this season as Champions League will be like a money milk source for them. With Juventus, be able to join Champions League can help their finance a lot as their finance is still affected by Covid 19.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 19, 2023, 06:10:46 PM

Fiorentina have been one of the team on the rise as you know. Their next game is going to be against Empoli home. I already see a win there for Fiorentina honestly. Empoli changed their manager a short time ago but I don't expect this to make them resist Fiorentina strongly here. They would need some time to recover.

Fiorentina beat even Napoli away recently and they are in great shape now. They can even be in the race for top 4 this season if they keep this form during the first half of the season.

I was pleasantly surprised by Fiorentina, this team is playing really well. Prandelli had also said not to underestimate the Fiorentina, that the team was growing significantly and was experimenting with new tactical forms and strategies. You can see, I would like to say, they beat Napoli.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on October 20, 2023, 08:24:59 AM

Quote from: tusandii on October 20, 2023, 02:57:54 AM

Actually, I have already stated some of my opinions in other threads, but here perhaps more people will provide opinions to strengthen my beliefs.
I have a little doubt about Napoli who will play against Verona and my doubts always focus on their mainstay player, Victor Osimhen, who currently looks erratic or inconsistent, has had a slight decline in performance and I doubt if Napoli can win this away match even though Verona is considered not very strong but they got home advantage and had the opportunity to use a defensive strategy and end the match in a draw.
I'm worried that a surprise will happen in this match while I also placed a bet on this match.

I don't even plan to bet on Napoli winning that match. Because Napoli, who will not be strengthened by Osimhen, will clearly experience a decline in building attacks. For me, this match is more likely to end in a draw. Osimhen's injury will clearly have a big impact. Even though Osimhen will only be absent in the next 3 matches. But Napoli will definitely have difficulties in these 3 matches. Because they are used to relying on Osimhen at the spearhead of their attacks.

And Napoli's performance was even a little disappointing in their last match. like when Napoli had to accept defeat at home to Fiorentina. I think this has made everyone start to doubt this team's performance this season. Because usually Napoli are unbeatable when playing as hosts. But this season is completely different.

@Arenga I personally feel that one should avoid wagering on Napoli because they’re in complete mess and I’m not surprised if their decline continues. Furthermore I’m eagerly waiting for Victor to leave the club because he deserves a better club who values him and matches his ambitions and sadly Napoli is no longer that club and lastly I’m hoping that he can secure a transfer away as early as the January transfer window.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 20, 2023, 02:57:54 AM

Actually, I have already stated some of my opinions in other threads, but here perhaps more people will provide opinions to strengthen my beliefs.
I have a little doubt about Napoli who will play against Verona and my doubts always focus on their mainstay player, Victor Osimhen, who currently looks erratic or inconsistent, has had a slight decline in performance and I doubt if Napoli can win this away match even though Verona is considered not very strong but they got home advantage and had the opportunity to use a defensive strategy and end the match in a draw.
I'm worried that a surprise will happen in this match while I also placed a bet on this match.

I don't even plan to bet on Napoli winning that match. Because Napoli, who will not be strengthened by Osimhen, will clearly experience a decline in building attacks. For me, this match is more likely to end in a draw. Osimhen's injury will clearly have a big impact. Even though Osimhen will only be absent in the next 3 matches. But Napoli will definitely have difficulties in these 3 matches. Because they are used to relying on Osimhen at the spearhead of their attacks.

And Napoli's performance was even a little disappointing in their last match. like when Napoli had to accept defeat at home to Fiorentina. I think this has made everyone start to doubt this team's performance this season. Because usually Napoli are unbeatable when playing as hosts. But this season is completely different.

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Empoli can't have any chance against Fiorentina even if they are in their best form, still, Fiorentina is a team they didn't lose a game in the last five games they had and Fiorentina is also in fourth place in the Serie A. I think the rates for this game are fair enough to bet on Fiorentina against Empoli and take less risk.

Empoli has 1W 1D 6L this season and will play Fiorentina next. There is still hope for them because the current season remains ongoing at mid-season, giving them more time to prepare for the challenging competition ahead. Empoli is currently working extensively to prevent relegation this season. I believe it would be the initial goal this season since it would be a big slap in the face of the team's board members. Empoli boss, Aurelio Andreazzoli, could be sacked this season; it's only a question of time before the board issues a sack letter aggressively.

Every team certainly has its own motivation to move forward, but I don't think Empoli will be able to do anything when they play an away match against Fiorentina. In terms of the odds offered by the bookies, they are quite different and Fiorentina with odds @ 146 will definitely win easily. Fiorentina had difficulties at the start of the season and in the last few matches they have started to find their form again.

I think Fiorentina has returned to the right track and seeing that Empoli is currently in the relegation zone, it is not difficult for Fiorentina to beat them. Certainly Fiorentina will maintain its position in the top 4 and they will continue to keep their distance from Napoli's pursuit. Regarding Aurelio Andreazzoli's dismissal, I think that could happen if they still lose 2 or 3 more matches and Empoli have to move quickly before they continue to achieve minor results.

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Quote from: borovichok on October 20, 2023, 07:48:01 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 19, 2023, 06:36:02 PM

Empoli can't have any chance against Fiorentina even if they are in their best form, still, Fiorentina is a team they didn't lose a game in the last five games they had and Fiorentina is also in fourth place in the Serie A. I think the rates for this game are fair enough to bet on Fiorentina against Empoli and take less risk.

Empoli has 1W 1D 6L this season and will play Fiorentina next. There is still hope for them because the current season remains ongoing at mid-season, giving them more time to prepare for the challenging competition ahead. Empoli is currently working extensively to prevent relegation this season. I believe it would be the initial goal this season since it would be a big slap in the face of the team's board members. Empoli boss, Aurelio Andreazzoli, could be sacked this season; it's only a question of time before the board issues a sack letter aggressively.

But Fiorentina is getting their best performance, even though basically Empoli can put up a little resistance and hope to get a win in this match with a little luck, so that they can prevent them from entering the relegation zone, but this match will be very difficult for Empoli to win, even though they will use as much power as they can, for the match against Fiorentina this time the strength comparison is too far in my opinion.

At least Empoli can hold the score 0:0 to a draw, which is quite great in my opinion, I would be grateful if Empoli can get a 1:0 win and take three points from Fiorentina.

The coach's consequences will be at stake if Empoli continues to have no progress.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on October 20, 2023, 01:00:27 AM

When a player is suspended, the whole team is informed and when a club has been confronted with it many times in the past, they have an intense way of controlling it all. And everyone knows the story of juventus and the scandal and the relegation to Serie B, this fear mybe still exists in the management. In the last season the point deduction, 2x, and now it continues with the players. It is like being unwell, which leads in many cases to a turbulence, so no extreme good performances as a team. How would you feel if you were supended from your dream of being a soccer player, not good, and mybe the team also.

Not everything can depend on the team, if the management does some kind of financial fraud, then the players may not even be informed about it, but in the end everyone suffers (when the team was sent to Serie B).

Also, the team cannot control players who may use doping, of their own free will or with any medications. In this case, the player, and not the entire team, will be responsible for his actions.

Juventus is playing better this season and I even hoped that they would be able to compete for the Scudetto, but now Alegre is involved in a scandal with bets, and he faces disqualification for 3 years. This looks like a lack of discipline in the team and not due to some kind of bad luck.

Therefore, basically Juventus does not seem to have healthy management because obviously, with so many problems that happen will certainly have an impact on team performance . After all, the fact is Juventus also had a good performance last season but unfortunately, with the point deduction penalty that Juventus experienced last season . Of course, made Juventus look like they did not have a big motivation to compete stronger and better in the top four . Also at this moment, although Juventus is only focused on Serie A but in fact, I judge that Juventus is stillnot completely good at this moment. What's more, iffor example Juventus have another problem this season or at this moment, then I sure Juventus will again decline in performance and quality this season and it is inevitable if for example Juventus have another problem.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 19, 2023, 06:36:02 PM

Empoli can't have any chance against Fiorentina even if they are in their best form, still, Fiorentina is a team they didn't lose a game in the last five games they had and Fiorentina is also in fourth place in the Serie A. I think the rates for this game are fair enough to bet on Fiorentina against Empoli and take less risk.

Empoli has 1W 1D 6L this season and will play Fiorentina next. There is still hope for them because the current season remains ongoing at mid-season, giving them more time to prepare for the challenging competition ahead. Empoli is currently working extensively to prevent relegation this season. I believe it would be the initial goal this season since it would be a big slap in the face of the team's board members. Empoli boss, Aurelio Andreazzoli, could be sacked this season; it's only a question of time before the board issues a sack letter aggressively.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 19, 2023, 06:36:02 PM

Empoli can't have any chance against Fiorentina even if they are in their best form, still, Fiorentina is a team they didn't lose a game in the last five games they had and Fiorentina is also in fourth place in the Serie A. I think the rates for this game are fair enough to bet on Fiorentina against Empoli and take less risk.

Imagine that this will be an easy match for Fiorentina because the two teams are in very different conditions, in five matches the bad results experienced by Fiorentina were only 1 draw while Empoli in five matches could only win 1x and draw 1x, and it is very possible that this will become empoli's seventh defeat this season from 9 matches.
Fiorentina doesn't even have difficulty getting 3 points when facing Napoli, especially when facing Empoli, what can prevent Fiorentina from getting 3 points is if one of their players gets a red card, or if they underestimate their opponent so they are caught off guard and Empoli gets the opportunity to attack and score goals, but my prediction is that Fiorentina will score more than two goals in the ninth week of the match.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on October 20, 2023, 03:01:37 AM

Although Fagioli, Tonali and Zaniolo have recently denied the allegations, they are suspicious in this case. All forms of gambling are risky and if you place high bets because your income increases when you become a football player, you will end up in debt like Fagioli. Zaniolo strongly denies the allegations. Such suspicious actions of Italian players were very sad.

Fagioli has not denied allegation. He has proven being involved in illegal gambling. That's why he has been getting some sanctions. Fagioli has been banned for around 7 months starting from now. The good things are coming from juventus.
Juventus has stated that if the club is still supporting him. That's why fagioli is still receiving his full salary even though he will not be playing for around 7 months.

The club was not also giving another sanction to him. Juventus is still on the way to support him at this moment. Fagioli has a better fate than pogba which is not being supported by its club. Juventus has been targeting fabian ruiz from PSG to replace pogba.
Fagioli is lucky enough than pogba caused by the team is still on his side.

Fagioli will able to play next season. He can now start to gamble again. Cheesy

I hope that he should not put himself in a difficult situation by depositing too much money, and as far as I know, football players are not allowed to bet on football. If this is not the case, there will be great manipulations in the game and the players will determine the fate of the games. I think Fagioli has learned his lesson and continues his bets away from football. I think he should be happy that he no longer receives sanctions from Juventus.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on October 20, 2023, 03:01:37 AM

Although Fagioli, Tonali and Zaniolo have recently denied the allegations, they are suspicious in this case. All forms of gambling are risky and if you place high bets because your income increases when you become a football player, you will end up in debt like Fagioli. Zaniolo strongly denies the allegations. Such suspicious actions of Italian players were very sad.

Fagioli has not denied allegation. He has proven being involved in illegal gambling. That's why he has been getting some sanctions. Fagioli has been banned for around 7 months starting from now. The good things are coming from juventus.
Juventus has stated that if the club is still supporting him. That's why fagioli is still receiving his full salary even though he will not be playing for around 7 months.

The club was not also giving another sanction to him. Juventus is still on the way to support him at this moment. Fagioli has a better fate than pogba which is not being supported by its club. Juventus has been targeting fabian ruiz from PSG to replace pogba.
Fagioli is lucky enough than pogba caused by the team is still on his side.

Fagioli will able to play next season. He can now start to gamble again. Cheesy

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on October 20, 2023, 01:00:27 AM

When a player is suspended, the whole team is informed and when a club has been confronted with it many times in the past, they have an intense way of controlling it all. And everyone knows the story of juventus and the scandal and the relegation to Serie B, this fear mybe still exists in the management. In the last season the point deduction, 2x, and now it continues with the players. It is like being unwell, which leads in many cases to a turbulence, so no extreme good performances as a team. How would you feel if you were supended from your dream of being a soccer player, not good, and mybe the team also.

Not everything can depend on the team, if the management does some kind of financial fraud, then the players may not even be informed about it, but in the end everyone suffers (when the team was sent to Serie B).

Also, the team cannot control players who may use doping, of their own free will or with any medications. In this case, the player, and not the entire team, will be responsible for his actions.

Juventus is playing better this season and I even hoped that they would be able to compete for the Scudetto, but now Alegre is involved in a scandal with bets, and he faces disqualification for 3 years. This looks like a lack of discipline in the team and not due to some kind of bad luck.

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