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Quote from: bitgolden on August 16, 2023, 12:40:26 PM

Quote from: Doell on August 16, 2023, 07:31:39 AM

The news I heard was not too serious, so Osimhen will be available maybe at the start of Napoli match this season. Well, you're right. Napoli at the UCL against Milan without Osimhen, they couldn't do anything, there is no reliable striker. But in Serie A maybe if the opponent is not a strong team, I think Napoli can still win without Osimhen Sir. Yes, Osimhen is very important, Napoli don't want to sell this player anywhere because Osimhem is still young and of course it will be very expensive in the future if his continue to be in good performance.

Osimhen is not the win or lose maker for Napoli, they have other players as well but they have lost their best defender as well. I do not think that they have made replacements that would be needed, and their new manager is not as good as the old one as well if you ask me, not for this roster at least.

Things will not be easy for them, but at the very least having Osimhen is a good thing, if they sold him for 120 million like they could, they could have bought a striker for 60 million and a defender for 60 million and just play like they did last year and be better. Unfortunately they didn't and this will cause them to not have the amount of success they had last year and will end up with a much worse result without a doubt.

Yes your analysis is correct, Napoli has lost almost half of its strength this season even though Osimhen is still in the squad. Losing a great defender and a great coach will certainly affect the team as a whole. So I agree that Osimhen must be released immediately when there is a fairly high price offer and immediately look for several other players to maintain the balance of the team. Then in my opinion even if Osimhen is maintained then I would bet that Napoli will no longer be able to dominate Serie A like last season.

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Quote from: Distraction on August 16, 2023, 03:41:17 AM

First it seemed like Osimhen was injured but now I can't see any information related to any injury. I guess that this means he has recovered already which is great news for Napoli. But I don't know if he would be a starter in the lineup against Frosinone this week. It depends on how much he does training and gets ready for the match.

But with or without his being in the starting lineup Napoli should still be able to make a good start to the season.

Frosinone are new in the league this season and they are unpredictable for now. But against the last champion I don't know how good they can be despite its being only the beginning of the season.

Victor Osimhen did not suffer a long injury indeed, he only needed a few weeks' rest and it is very likely that Victor Osimhen will be in the line-up for Napoli's first match in Serie A this weekend.

But for Napoli's initial match I doubted a little if they would play well, because indeed in this team a lot of changes have occurred, especially the most influential one is the change of coach, I have seen the betting exchange and Napoli are quite the favorite to win the match with a handicap of -1 points .5 and I avoid betting in this Napoli first match, in my opinion it is quite risky.

Actually, even though Victor Osimhen's injury isn't too bad I would agree more if he stays completely rested for 1 month so that he really recovers because if he is forced to be absent from matches I'm worried that the injury will get worse and this is Napoli's first match so there's no need to push too hard. compete.
I also don't bet on Napoli matches because this is very dangerous because the changes in the current players and coaches make Napoli a little difficult to predict unless you have done several matches, maybe you can see how Napoli is doing at the moment.
But even though I don't bet on this match I hope Napoli will still win because even though it only the first game but if you can get points early it much better to secure his position.

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Quote from: marcous on August 16, 2023, 11:10:56 AM

I wonder why Victor Osimhen price is so high, because he managed to bring Napoli to the Scudetto and became the top scorer in Serie A last season. Especially if Osimhen manages to become the top scorer in the UCL and brings Napoli to win it, the price will be even crazier, because trophies and awards are proof of the quality of a player.

I don't think it's only because he won trophies or because he was the top scorer in Serie A last season, but the truth is that Victor Osimhen is a young, talented striker, and we all know that. With Victor Osimhen's performances last season, despite some issues with injuries, I may say that being the top scorer in Serie A deserved the price because of his hard work. If we talk about Victor Osimhen's transfer price, how much did Bayern Munich pay to complete Harry Kane's move at his age?age of 30 years.

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Many clubs can take him out of Napoli for now, PSG, Madrid, Chelsea, Man City can do it. But it's just that the club doesn't make Osimhen their target, it could also be that the FFP rules are their current obstacle.

Seriously, I'm also confused as to why Victor osimhen isn't always the first choice target for this team you mentioned, is it because the price is too high and he doesn't deserve the price Napoli offered? I don't think it's because it isn't worth it. I believe Napoli could have reduced the price or rushed to sell it to Saudi Arabian club Al-Hilal, which offered Napoli €140 million. But all I am thinking is that we still need the impact of Victor Osimhen on the team.

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Quote from: Doell on August 16, 2023, 07:31:39 AM

The news I heard was not too serious, so Osimhen will be available maybe at the start of Napoli match this season. Well, you're right. Napoli at the UCL against Milan without Osimhen, they couldn't do anything, there is no reliable striker. But in Serie A maybe if the opponent is not a strong team, I think Napoli can still win without Osimhen Sir. Yes, Osimhen is very important, Napoli don't want to sell this player anywhere because Osimhem is still young and of course it will be very expensive in the future if his continue to be in good performance.

Osimhen is not the win or lose maker for Napoli, they have other players as well but they have lost their best defender as well. I do not think that they have made replacements that would be needed, and their new manager is not as good as the old one as well if you ask me, not for this roster at least.

Things will not be easy for them, but at the very least having Osimhen is a good thing, if they sold him for 120 million like they could, they could have bought a striker for 60 million and a defender for 60 million and just play like they did last year and be better. Unfortunately they didn't and this will cause them to not have the amount of success they had last year and will end up with a much worse result without a doubt.

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2 of AC Milan players are likely to leave in the next few days. De Ketelaere is one of those who has undergone medical tests with his new club Atalanta, as a loan player with permanent options. Another player is a Krunic. According to the last rumors I read, Fenerbahce will bid Krunic for 9 million euros for four-years contract duration. Personal deal has been made between Krunic and Fenerbahce, now we are waiting for AC milan and Pioli to complete this transfer
Milan really filled with new players earlier this season.

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Quote from: shogun47 on August 16, 2023, 09:06:28 AM

That is easier said than done because as you just mentioned it could also have been himself who wanted a break and that could have many reasons that they agreed on to not become public. Maybe he has some health issues or feels burned out or something, it is all possible. But since we haven't really found out so far what the real reason was, I doubt that this will change unless one of the two, I mean either the club or Spalletti, openly talk about it. Napoli is still an attractive team for a coach so I think he didn't let go without important reasons.

It is not uncommon to have some coaches that decide to go on sabbatical but it is strange to leave after a successful campaign. I suspect he is having some undisclosed health issues. He is Sixty-five years old and can be prone to sickness. It might also be to spend more time with his friends and family. At this age, he needs to spend quality time with his wife Tamara, children, and even grandchildren. He only announced that he has given all he has and needs to rest. I respect his decision because he understands his body and was not driven by financial gain. Some coaches will even sign a new contract because of the money. I really wished that they won the Champions League last season. It would have been a glorious departure.

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Quote from: marcous on August 16, 2023, 11:10:56 AM

I wonder why Victor Osimhen price is so high, because he managed to bring Napoli to the Scudetto and became the top scorer in Serie A last season. Especially if Osimhen manages to become the top scorer in the UCL and brings Napoli to win it, the price will be even crazier, because trophies and awards are proof of the quality of a player.

Victor Osimhen is one of the players that brought Napoli back to form last season by leading the team to win the Italia Seria A after the club was without a trophy for a very long time. After that, he won the golden boot by being the top scorer, and he is a good striker that every team was aiming to have as of last season because of his pace and strength in scoring goals.

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Many clubs can take him out of Napoli for now, PSG, Madrid, Chelsea, Man City can do it. But it's just that the club doesn't make Osimhen their target, it could also be that the FFP rules are their current obstacle.

Napoli wants to maintain their team performance again this season, which is why they are probably charging a high fee for any team that is willing to buy Osimhen. Therefore, most of the teams that had the intention backed out, and now Saudi Arabia's Al Hilal are willing to take him off Napoli, but I think Napoli have yet to make their final decision about the player's future.

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Quote from: Davian144 on August 16, 2023, 08:09:52 AM

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Getting good players is not as easy as you say Milan needs a lot of money that has to be spent on just one player, whereas if you buy more than one player, it will disrupt Milan's financial condition. At least if you want to buy new players, Milan must consider players who are much needed so that the money used will not be wasted.

Apart from having to consider the position of the players needed by Milan itself, the amount of the transfer fee must also be seen by Milan if they are keeping their cash fairly well in terms of buying players. Because Milan must be able to be strong this season in order to get a title in Serie A even though the competition will still not be easy because Napoli and Inter also still have strong potential this season.

For me personally, buying a lot of players is also not a solution to be able to improve team performance. Because at least, as long as Milan still has players in its squad, then of course Milan can also maximize the potential of each player it has. Because anyway, if Milan buy a few more players close to the end of the transfer window like this, then the players they bring in also don't have enough time to adapt.

So yes, at least that is one of the reasons I think buying players is not a solution to improve the quality of the team. Because after all, Milan is not a team with a lot of money like Arab businessmen who can pay expensive great players at the same time. So yes, with a squad like this too if Milan manages to maximize its potential, then of course Milan will still succeed too, especially in Serie A.

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Quote from: tygeade on August 16, 2023, 09:39:31 AM

There were some "offers" as in like enquiry about how much it would cost to get him, but as we all know Napoli put a 150+ million price tag on him, as high as 180 million with bonuses and such. Which means that we are talking about overrated player without a doubt and that's a big deal.

I think it should be considered to be something that would be a big deal, and I understand that it's not going to be that much of an easy thing for any team to pay that much for him. I get that he is a young and talented player, but paying that much for any player would be way too much, only Saudi league would be able to pay that much and I am sure he doesn't want to go there just yet. This should be the difference maker, that's why he stayed.

I wonder why Victor Osimhen price is so high, because he managed to bring Napoli to the Scudetto and became the top scorer in Serie A last season. Especially if Osimhen manages to become the top scorer in the UCL and brings Napoli to win it, the price will be even crazier, because trophies and awards are proof of the quality of a player.

Many clubs can take him out of Napoli for now, PSG, Madrid, Chelsea, Man City can do it. But it's just that the club doesn't make Osimhen their target, it could also be that the FFP rules are their current obstacle.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 15, 2023, 03:21:45 AM

I don't see any news related to Osimhen's contract extension. But maybe the sides are close to reaching an agreement. I assume Osimhen was waiting to see if he would get any offer from a top team this summer but there is none so far. Then as long as Napoli meet his demands he could really extend with the team.

This will help Napoli put a release clause onto his contract as it has been rumoured as well. It should be around 150-160 million euros. This would at least increase the chance of Napoli to keep Osimhen in the team for long years. Because any team would think twice before paying that much for a player.

There were some "offers" as in like enquiry about how much it would cost to get him, but as we all know Napoli put a 150+ million price tag on him, as high as 180 million with bonuses and such. Which means that we are talking about overrated player without a doubt and that's a big deal.

I think it should be considered to be something that would be a big deal, and I understand that it's not going to be that much of an easy thing for any team to pay that much for him. I get that he is a young and talented player, but paying that much for any player would be way too much, only Saudi league would be able to pay that much and I am sure he doesn't want to go there just yet. This should be the difference maker, that's why he stayed.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 16, 2023, 09:00:12 AM

Lazio has received two additional new ammunition from Juventus to navigate Serie A this season. The two players are Luca Pellegrini and also Nicolo Rovella, it looks like Lazio wants to continue updating the depth of its squad for this season so as not to be left behind by other teams who have made quite a lot of transfers in the summer. Both are young players with defender and midfielder positions, with this making the strategy desired by coach Maurizio Sarri even stronger. It seems that Juventus have no plans to bring these players into the squad list so that this could be an opportunity for Lazio to make loans to these two players from Juventus.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1691782975568933107

Lazio would like to take risk and grow up those young players as they will not have to spend much money for those players and if they succeed to grow those players up, they will get good contributions from those players.

Lazio have some recent good seasons but they don't have too good finance and they can not race with other clubs on transfer market and have to choose a different approach. Generally clubs in Italy can not compete with clubs from Premier League, La Liga in player transfers and they are rebuilding their squads with free players or players from loans just like two players loaned from Juventus to Lazio.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 16, 2023, 08:35:46 AM

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Other teams' performances in Serie A last season were much weaker and more erratic than Napoli's. No team can present a big obstacle for Napoli to win. Napoli are champions easily. But this is unlikely to happen next season. Because Inter Milan and Juventus have strengthened their squads. At the same time the AC Milan management has also spent a lot of money to strengthen the squad. And each of these teams aims to win the title next season. Napoli, on the other hand, have lost their coach. Whether new coach Garcia can stabilize the team is yet to be seen. For these reasons, Napoli cannot be called the most favorite for the title.

Exactly, Napoli won because they were a stable team. So what does the management decide, to become unstable by sending the coach away. Good job. Really stupid. I too am skeptical about Napoli this year, with regret of course.
My Juventus too, this year is not good.

I'm not sure of Luciano Spalletti's departure from Napoli was initiated by the club or because he personally wanted to leave the Italian champions but whichever factor that must have caused him to leave the club should've been avoided by the club's management.
Spalletti brought out the best from most of the first team players at Napoli last season and that's why they were able to win the scudetto. The club's management should've done everything within their power and keep him at the club so he can win more trophies for the club with the current squad that he already knows how to use. Rudi Garcia isn't a bad manager but keeping the former would've been better decision fire the club

That is easier said than done because as you just mentioned it could also have been himself who wanted a break and that could have many reasons that they agreed on to not become public. Maybe he has some health issues or feels burned out or something, it is all possible. But since we haven't really found out so far what the real reason was, I doubt that this will change unless one of the two, I mean either the club or Spalletti, openly talk about it. Napoli is still an attractive team for a coach so I think he didn't let go without important reasons.

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Lazio has received two additional new ammunition from Juventus to navigate Serie A this season. The two players are Luca Pellegrini and also Nicolo Rovella, it looks like Lazio wants to continue updating the depth of its squad for this season so as not to be left behind by other teams who have made quite a lot of transfers in the summer. Both are young players with defender and midfielder positions, with this making the strategy desired by coach Maurizio Sarri even stronger. It seems that Juventus have no plans to bring these players into the squad list so that this could be an opportunity for Lazio to make loans to these two players from Juventus.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1691782975568933107

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Other teams' performances in Serie A last season were much weaker and more erratic than Napoli's. No team can present a big obstacle for Napoli to win. Napoli are champions easily. But this is unlikely to happen next season. Because Inter Milan and Juventus have strengthened their squads. At the same time the AC Milan management has also spent a lot of money to strengthen the squad. And each of these teams aims to win the title next season. Napoli, on the other hand, have lost their coach. Whether new coach Garcia can stabilize the team is yet to be seen. For these reasons, Napoli cannot be called the most favorite for the title.

Exactly, Napoli won because they were a stable team. So what does the management decide, to become unstable by sending the coach away. Good job. Really stupid. I too am skeptical about Napoli this year, with regret of course.
My Juventus too, this year is not good.

I'm not sure of Luciano Spalletti's departure from Napoli was initiated by the club or because he personally wanted to leave the Italian champions but whichever factor that must have caused him to leave the club should've been avoided by the club's management.
Spalletti brought out the best from most of the first team players at Napoli last season and that's why they were able to win the scudetto. The club's management should've done everything within their power and keep him at the club so he can win more trophies for the club with the current squad that he already knows how to use. Rudi Garcia isn't a bad manager but keeping the former would've been better decision fire the club

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Napoli CEO Aurelio de Laurentiis has stated that Victor Osimhen is not for sale and the club’s financial situation is currently quite healthy.

https://onefootball.com/en/news/napolis-aurelio-de-laurentiis-victor-osimhen-is-not-for-sale-36757879

How many times napoli's president stated if he will not let him go. Osimhen was doing such a thing caused by napoli keeps preventing him from leaving. Osimhen had no choice other than extending his contract by putting the new release clause for him.

Oshimen is an asset to Napoli, a very good asset and must be maintained. At least, even though they don't have a new coach, they still have one of the key players from the club that won Serie A last season. Because it is undeniable that Oshimen's contribution to Napoli is enormous. Even though I don't know how Napoli will perform this season as a whole with its new coach, it is always hoped that Oshimen is able to bring his squad team to always make their best contribution. Even though it might be more difficult than last season to hold the title again, at least they can enter the UCL again. . Their consistency and solidity is also very important.

A big testing season ahead waiting for the Victor Osimhen as he is going to stay for another season with few good players are already out and coach is also new, so life could be no easy, but surely this could be full of adventure for the star player with if he is able to perform like last season then surely they are going to have good end of the another season and impressive reward is also waiting for him but with current situation mostly are feeling now they could be not strong and good as we have them in last season.

Few days left in transfer window and most chances he will be stayed at Napoli but as things going we can have any big twist in coming days as well because right now money is working good for the new generation players which can change their mind in any game for the change of club as well.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on August 15, 2023, 06:10:27 PM

Getting good players is not as easy as you say Milan needs a lot of money that has to be spent on just one player, whereas if you buy more than one player, it will disrupt Milan's financial condition. At least if you want to buy new players, Milan must consider players who are much needed so that the money used will not be wasted.

Apart from having to consider the position of the players needed by Milan itself, the amount of the transfer fee must also be seen by Milan if they are keeping their cash fairly well in terms of buying players. Because Milan must be able to be strong this season in order to get a title in Serie A even though the competition will still not be easy because Napoli and Inter also still have strong potential this season.

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Osimhen's injury hasn't been widely reported, and even I haven't heard about it. If this is a serious injury, Napoli will face many difficulties this season because, despite their strong play, I don't think they can win the title without Osimhen. In addition, even though I think they can play very well, Napoli cannot score goals without Osimhen. Let's take a look at the champions league match between Napoli and AC Milan from last season. Osimhen wasn't in the best of health and missed the first leg, which led to Ac Milan defeating Napoli 1-0. In the second leg, however, osimhen was present and Ac Milan was unbeatable. The first leg affected Napoli because osimhen wasn't there.

Victor Osimhen is crucial to Napoli, which is why they won't even consider putting him on the open market. When Saudi Arabia offers him money, the team informs them that Osimhen is not for sale. If Osimhen's injury is very serious, Napoli will face a significant challenge because they don't have any players in the team who can score goals, and a goal scorer is crucial for a team. Many teams currently have an issue with striker since they lack a quality striker player.

The news I heard was not too serious, so Osimhen will be available maybe at the start of Napoli match this season. Well, you're right. Napoli at the UCL against Milan without Osimhen, they couldn't do anything, there is no reliable striker. But in Serie A maybe if the opponent is not a strong team, I think Napoli can still win without Osimhen Sir. Yes, Osimhen is very important, Napoli don't want to sell this player anywhere because Osimhem is still young and of course it will be very expensive in the future if his continue to be in good performance.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 14, 2023, 03:39:57 AM

Other teams' performances in Serie A last season were much weaker and more erratic than Napoli's. No team can present a big obstacle for Napoli to win. Napoli are champions easily. But this is unlikely to happen next season. Because Inter Milan and Juventus have strengthened their squads. At the same time the AC Milan management has also spent a lot of money to strengthen the squad. And each of these teams aims to win the title next season. Napoli, on the other hand, have lost their coach. Whether new coach Garcia can stabilize the team is yet to be seen. For these reasons, Napoli cannot be called the most favorite for the title.

Exactly, Napoli won because they were a stable team. So what does the management decide, to become unstable by sending the coach away. Good job. Really stupid. I too am skeptical about Napoli this year, with regret of course.
My Juventus too, this year is not good.

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Quote from: Falconer on August 15, 2023, 03:00:01 PM

Several Serie A teams also have the ability to sign expensive players like Juventus did for Ronaldo, Gonzalo Higuaín, Matthijs de Ligt, Dusan Vlahovic, and Arthur Melo a few seasons ago. But a Serie A team has never been richer than some Premier League teams so far in terms of income, but that doesn't make Serie A any worse in terms of the quality of the game.

For this season, Juventus is also still the top team that brings in players more expensively than all other Serie A teams. Juventus have spent 60 million euros at least on their 2 new players with a value of 30 million euros each, they are Manuel Locatelli and Moise Kean.

Before Covid things were completely under their control but recently due to some reason mostly Italian clubs are suffering badly in finances and have no enough funds for bringing top players which need some good solution because if they are not able to settle this surely it's going to hurt their performance and quality as well in last season we have three Italian sides into top three UEFA events but sadly these all fail to win due to difference of quality even in this season mostly clubs are not able to buy players as their requirement because they have no enough funds for this all.

Now in upcoming season, we are going to have good fight for the title between two Milan sides and Juventus with most chances AC Milan can do much better than expectation but still they also need to have few good players which can bring changes for them with Juventus is also surely going to have big change as well.

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Leandro Paredes has been introduced by Roma as their latest signing and he was signed from PSG for a very small fee of around 4 million euros. Previously, Leandro Paredes was loaned to Juventus since last season, but when this season started, it seemed that he was not included in the plans of the new PSG coach, namely Luis Enrique. So the opportunity to leave PSG was wide open and that's where Rome started moving to bring him in. However I think Leandro Paredes is a good defensive midfielder and as long as the team manages him right he will continue to show consistency in his performances. Next, we will wait for the announcement of another player from Roma, namely Renato Sanchez, who also came from PSG with Leandro Paredes.

Leandro Paredes is one of the players who was not included in coach Luis Enrique's list, so it is only natural that he was sold and taken by Roma.
In the previous season Leandro Paredes was a pretty good player and his playing skills looked very competitive, he managed to help other players to create epic game collaborations.
This is a pretty good advantage for Roma because they managed to get a good defensive midfielder at a very low purchase price, thus saving the club's finances even more.
In the transfer market, the name Renato Sanchez, who is also a midfielder from PSG, has also agreed to move to Rome, so that this season, Roma have brought in two midfielders from the same club.
Now it's just waiting for the two of them to be made official so they can compete to strengthen the squad starting this summer.

That's right, especially last year he also became one of the players who brought Argentina to win the world cup. Certainly his achievements cannot be taken lightly and he should have earned a place in one of the big European teams. Mourinho must have been eyeing Paredes for a long time when he was still at Juventus, so his performance has earned a pretty good mark from Mourinho's point of view.

For Renato Sanches, today he was also announced as Roma's second new signing after Paredes. With this, it is complete for the midfield affairs that Mourinho wants and Renato Sanches is only on loan for Roma for one season.

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