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But we see that several players have also rejected their offers because they are still focusing their careers on the European leagues and of course in the highest competition.

Sure. The top players who are still in the golden age like Lautaro Martinez will prefer to focus on playing in the top leagues in the world. Only those players who are not in their best form anymore who consider to move to Saudi. They focus on earning money, they don't really care about their career anymore.

Quote from: arimamib on July 22, 2023, 06:30:42 PM

Seeing Lautaro Martinez, of course he is in good harmony with Inter Milan, so he is definitely very comfortable at Inter Milan until his contract ends.

Unless there is an interesting offer from the top clubs, Lautaro Martinez probably prefers to stay. But I'm sure that he is posible to leave if there is an offer form the top clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, or big clubs in EPL.

Your perception may be correct. Because those who go to the Saudi Arabian League, of course they have achieved a lot in their individual careers so they are more focused on finding a bigger salary for their next career. But for Martinez he is still young and he still has many dreams he has to achieve on the European league stage.

On the other hand I see the good progress that Ac milan has made in this transfer window as they got fresh funds after successfully selling Tonali to Newcastle United. Where the finances they get can be easy for them to bring in many players in this transfer window. I see them as the most active team in this transfer window in Serie A because for now Ac milan has got 7 new players who will be an additional force for them for next season. One of the greatest signings is Pulisic because he has good qualities that he can develop with AC Milan in the next season.

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Quote from: flipme on July 23, 2023, 10:43:50 AM

Everyone knows that there is a contract crisis between Paris Saint-Germain and Mbappe. According to new reports, a similar crisis is taking place between Osimhen and Napoli. Napoli wanted to increase the release clause in Osimhen's contract to 173 million euros. Osimhen wanted the release clause in his contract to remain at 100 million euros. We can talk about the existence of a really serious crisis. While Europe's giant clubs want to transfer Osimhen, it will not be easy for Napoli to convince Osimhen to a new contract. I think it would be a better choice for Napoli to sell Osimhen for 100 million euros instead of convincing him after this stage.

However, Napoli are still a little safe because Victor Osimhen's contract will end in 2025 meaning Napoli can speculate if anyone wants to sign Osimhen. Meanwhile, Mbappe's case is different, PSG can't do much because his contract will expire at the end of this season but yeah Napoli will have to see what happens to Mbappe so they don't have the same problem, they have to prepare a new contract or release it at a high price before 2024. Recently the media reported that Napoli and Osimhen had differences of opinion regarding the price of his release Napoli want 173 million for the club that wants to take him while Osimhen wants around 100 million we know Napoli's intention is that no club approaches him because they think the price is too high.

After all, Napoli's position is more advantageous they still have a long time to make a decision, I think Napoli want Osimhen to stay for at least one more season even if there is a club that wants to pay 173 million Napoli don't mind because they can use the money to find a new striker. We also know that PSG are interested in Osimhen they wouldn't mind spending a lot of money if in the end Mbappe leaves PSG, the figure of Osimhen is considered suitable to replace Mbappe's role.

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Quote from: flipme on July 23, 2023, 10:43:50 AM

Everyone knows that there is a contract crisis between Paris Saint-Germain and Mbappe. According to new reports, a similar crisis is taking place between Osimhen and Napoli. Napoli wanted to increase the release clause in Osimhen's contract to 173 million euros. Osimhen wanted the release clause in his contract to remain at 100 million euros. We can talk about the existence of a really serious crisis. While Europe's giant clubs want to transfer Osimhen, it will not be easy for Napoli to convince Osimhen to a new contract. I think it would be a better choice for Napoli to sell Osimhen for 100 million euros instead of convincing him after this stage.

Many big clubs are trying to increase the contract prices of their best players. They do this so they don't lose one of their best players and to make the selling price of these players expensive and recognized by the world. It should be known that good players like Osimhen and Mbappe are very difficult to find, and it is only natural that the price is increased to be very expensive so that it is not easy to buy them.

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Juventus are still waiting on Vlahovic to leave or stay. PSG and Real Madrid are the most rumoured teams now. For now he seems closer to PSG and this transfer will even be more important if Mbappe leaves this summer as well. But even if he doesn't PSG still need to sign a player to the attacking line.

Real Madrid are also looking for a striker now. If they don't sign Mbappe this summer they will need to look for another good striker. Vlahovic is definitely a candidate for that. Until seeing an official offer these are all rumours of course. But while Juventus are open to offers for Vlahovic there is a good opportunity for those teams.

As we know, Ancelotti called Vlahovic on the phone and they had a meeting. This is very positive news. If a transfer is planned, the player and the coach must make a preliminary interview. They probably have come to an agreement among themselves, but there is also the issue of money.
The player that Real Madrid is really interested in is Mbappe and it's pretty expensive too. So the budget can be a bit of a challenge Cheesy

Ancelotti called him? I didn't know that. Then things are getting more serious on Real Madrid side as well. I have heard about PSG to have got really close to finishing this deal honestly but there is still no progress officially. This might still be an opportunity for Real Madrid to join this race as well.

Juventus don't care about where he goes now. They only care about the amount of offer they get and to finish the deal before August 4 as well. Depending on this transfer they will find a new striker for themselves.

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Quote from: arimamib on July 22, 2023, 06:30:42 PM

But we see that several players have also rejected their offers because they are still focusing their careers on the European leagues and of course in the highest competition.

Sure. The top players who are still in the golden age like Lautaro Martinez will prefer to focus on playing in the top leagues in the world. Only those players who are not in their best form anymore who consider to move to Saudi. They focus on earning money, they don't really care about their career anymore.

Quote from: arimamib on July 22, 2023, 06:30:42 PM

Seeing Lautaro Martinez, of course he is in good harmony with Inter Milan, so he is definitely very comfortable at Inter Milan until his contract ends.

Unless there is an interesting offer from the top clubs, Lautaro Martinez probably prefers to stay. But I'm sure that he is posible to leave if there is an offer form the top clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, or big clubs in EPL.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 23, 2023, 01:40:00 PM

In the past yeah, Pogba made a great contribution to Juventus. But I mean the seasons from 2012/13 to 2015/16. Other than that Pogba has done nothing since he joined the team back after leaving Manchester United. He played in only 10 games in total in which he didn't even play properly last season.

In this situation I think that it is quite risky for Juventus to give him another chance. He can get a lasting injury once again during the season and it would mean nothing to keep him in the squad. There is no guarantee for that maybe but I'm still doubtful about that.

Pogba is a world-class player with good skills, this was seen when he played for Juventus and then for Man United and then returned to Juventus. But unfortunately, because he has been injured too often, his movements have become very slow, and unable to give pressure on opponents.

Yes, I agree with your opinion, and because of that Juventus should have made the right decision by letting him go, after all, Juventus will be at a loss if they keep retaining a glass-footed player (easily injured), even though he is good, but if he is often injured, what's the point of keeping him. it would be better for him to pay to buy other players, players who are minimally injured, even though they are not as good as him but their performances are stable. Talented player but injury prone. I feel sorry for him.

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Quote from: klidex on July 23, 2023, 10:24:13 AM

Why do you doubt Paul Pogba performance at the Juvents club?
Even though Paul Pogba is also an important role at this club and his contribution to Juvents is also very good even though it sometime look inconsistent but in reality he was able to appear solid with other player who were able to bring Juvents to a conference league ticket.

This is probably due to the injury he experienced, an injury that is really in a crucial part and sometimes still recurs. This is what makes his performance not as optimal as he was in the past time. And this really affects the quality of the team. of course, even if they are still at Juventus later, they must still have new talented players who can at least become the main or main coating when suddenly the injury recurs. By the way, Juventus suffered many losses last season and they got sanctions that made Juventus, especially the players, drop a lot. So for sure this season, they want the best

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Quote from: flipme on July 23, 2023, 10:43:50 AM

Everyone knows that there is a contract crisis between Paris Saint-Germain and Mbappe. According to new reports, a similar crisis is taking place between Osimhen and Napoli. Napoli wanted to increase the release clause in Osimhen's contract to 173 million euros. Osimhen wanted the release clause in his contract to remain at 100 million euros. We can talk about the existence of a really serious crisis. While Europe's giant clubs want to transfer Osimhen, it will not be easy for Napoli to convince Osimhen to a new contract. I think it would be a better choice for Napoli to sell Osimhen for 100 million euros instead of convincing him after this stage.

I believe Napoli with the desire to raise his clause to 173M EUR so that he stays and no other team dares to pay the clause, while Osimhen wants 100M EUR so that he is easier to move to another team because for me with 100M EUR there are still several other teams that dare with the clause and reportedly Man United and Chelsea are waiting for the news or said to be interested in the Nigerian player.

But there is another note that the club president still believes Osimhen can still stay, it also depends on the situation of their agent with his new contract.

They would perhaps agree to meet in the middle of those two numbers, somewhere around 125M EUR. Unless Osimhen scores more goals than last season, he knows very well that nobody would be willing to pay 173M EUR for him and in my opinion he isn't worth that much anyway. Sure there could be a situation when a striker is needed and a club is willing to pay whatever it costs to find a new one, but I think it would be anything but an easy decision to pay as much for him. He has been consistent for several years, but he is not the 30 goals per season player. I know times have changed a lot, but considering that Ronaldo was below 100M EUR back then also means something here. If Osimhen had a goal per game ratio that is closer to 1.0 than to 0.5, maybe that price would make some sense.

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Quote from: klidex on July 23, 2023, 10:24:13 AM

Why do you doubt Paul Pogba performance at the Juvents club?
Even though Paul Pogba is also an important role at this club and his contribution to Juvents is also very good even though it sometime look inconsistent but in reality he was able to appear solid with other player who were able to bring Juvents to a conference league ticket.
I know that even though Juvents still have problem with offense but that is not a problem for Juvents to get up next season and still need senior player in it to be able to appear stronger and get the title they want, such as the champions league.
In addition, this new player, as you said, will strengthen the performance of the Juvents club to continue to try to get the best position in the standings and regarding the news that Vlahovic will leave Juventus, this is not true because he is still under contract with Juvents for the next 3 year.
So in essence Juventus in the next season will give a strong performance and prove to the whole world that Juvent can rise from this adversity.

pogba didn't play anything last season and juventus played without him, with that it was clear that juventus doesn't need him, i don't know if the juventus coach will put him to play this season, i have many doubts about that, but as we haven't seen him playing yet, so it's very difficult to say if he could contribute a lot to the team or not, and it seems to me that juventus is not very well financially so they could accept pogba playing, di maria preferred to leave juventus because probably saw that juventus has no good future with this current coach, they play badly, although they win the games

speaking of serie A, tomorrow we will have a good friendly game, I'm talking about this game:

real madrid - milan

despite being a friendly game, if the two teams play with their best players, it may be that we see a great game, real madrid will be without benzema so i ask myself: will milan win this game or will milan lose in this game? real madrid goes into this game as the favourite, i think they are underestimating milan, i still don't see where i can watch this game. milan last season had problems in attack and defense, we'll see if this season they managed to correct that, although i doubt it very much because i didn't see any big signings made by milan

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Quote from: flipme on July 23, 2023, 10:43:50 AM

Everyone knows that there is a contract crisis between Paris Saint-Germain and Mbappe. According to new reports, a similar crisis is taking place between Osimhen and Napoli. Napoli wanted to increase the release clause in Osimhen's contract to 173 million euros. Osimhen wanted the release clause in his contract to remain at 100 million euros. We can talk about the existence of a really serious crisis. While Europe's giant clubs want to transfer Osimhen, it will not be easy for Napoli to convince Osimhen to a new contract. I think it would be a better choice for Napoli to sell Osimhen for 100 million euros instead of convincing him after this stage.

I believe Napoli with the desire to raise his clause to 173M EUR so that he stays and no other team dares to pay the clause, while Osimhen wants 100M EUR so that he is easier to move to another team because for me with 100M EUR there are still several other teams that dare with the clause and reportedly Man United and Chelsea are waiting for the news or said to be interested in the Nigerian player.

But there is another note that the club president still believes Osimhen can still stay, it also depends on the situation of their agent with his new contract.

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Quote from: klidex on July 23, 2023, 10:24:13 AM

Why do you doubt Paul Pogba performance at the Juvents club?
Even though Paul Pogba is also an important role at this club and his contribution to Juvents is also very good even though it sometime look inconsistent but in reality he was able to appear solid with other player who were able to bring Juvents to a conference league ticket.
I know that even though Juvents still have problem with offense but that is not a problem for Juvents to get up next season and still need senior player in it to be able to appear stronger and get the title they want, such as the champions league.
In addition, this new player, as you said, will strengthen the performance of the Juvents club to continue to try to get the best position in the standings and regarding the news that Vlahovic will leave Juventus, this is not true because he is still under contract with Juvents for the next 3 year.
So in essence Juventus in the next season will give a strong performance and prove to the whole world that Juvent can rise from this adversity.

In the past yeah, Pogba made a great contribution to Juventus. But I mean the seasons from 2012/13 to 2015/16. Other than that Pogba has done nothing since he joined the team back after leaving Manchester United. He played in only 10 games in total in which he didn't even play properly last season.

In this situation I think that it is quite risky for Juventus to give him another chance. He can get a lasting injury once again during the season and it would mean nothing to keep him in the squad. There is no guarantee for that maybe but I'm still doubtful about that.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on July 22, 2023, 11:20:44 PM

Actually, the figure of Lautaro Martinez is indeed a player who can develop better if he has the opportunity to play at another club in a bigger league such as the Premier League. But for now Inter milan certainly won't let one of their mainstay strikers go. Because currently Inter Milan is in the middle of a striker crisis. Even to prevent Lautaro Martinez from going to another club, it is reported that Inter Milan has set Lautaro Martinez's transfer price to be very high. I think the method used by Inter Milan is similar to that used by Napoli in keeping Osimhen on the transfer market.

Currently, it is reported that Inter Milan has set a price of around 150 million Euros for price of their flagship striker. However, it is reported that currently there are clubs from the Arab League who are interested in signing Lautaro Martinez. But fortunately Lautaro Martinez rejected the offer from the Arab club. Even though the salary offered by the Arab club is very high. But Lautaro Martinez decided to stay at Inter Milan. Of course, Inter Milan must thank Lautaro Martinez for deciding to remain loyal to the club.

I feel like if he does leave, it would not be for cheap and if they can sell him for a lot of money then they could end up with a good amount of money that can be used to get more players. Inter is not doing well financially even after a UCL finals and not buying players that would be great, they haven't spent all that much money even though they have earned so much money.

This is why I believe that the best thing to do for them would be selling Martinez and then using that money to get new players. Better yet, they should be using all the money they have made from UCL into the team already and not doing that right now, I feel like they should and that could be the most important thing that would be very good in the end.

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What are the predictions with the friendly matches that will start in the next few days, especially Inter Milan, Simone Inzaghi's team will compete against Al Nassr which is strengthen by superstar Cristiano Ronaldo. Interesting, this is Inter's first match after lose in the Champions League Final, of course we want to see how Inzaghi recovers all the players in his team.

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Apparently, it would be a mistake if Napoli kept Osimhen to stay. Because anyway, this is the moment where Osimhen is on the rise, so if for example in the next season Napoli's performance and also Osimhen's performance decreases then maybe Osimhen's selling value will also decrease. So yes, I think it would be better for Napoli to be willing or let Osimhen leave if there are big European clubs who are willing to pay him in the transfer market this time. But, if Napoli have long-term prospects then of course, holding Osimhen could also be the right choice. But unfortunately, this certainly cannot be a definite guarantee for Napoli from time to time.

As you said Osimhen currently on the rise, it would be good if Napoli could let Osimhen left to any club in Europa, although his current age is 24 but at least Napoli can earn big money. Considering him high injury rate so yes Napoli may could be wrong if their keeps holding Osimhen, because also in next season Osimhen price could drop if Napoli can't got winning Scudetto again. By the way if Osimhen left, I think Premier League is better for him because as far as I know also Osimhen really want to play at there.

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Quote from: harapan on July 23, 2023, 08:48:45 AM

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I prefer to see lautaro play in saudi league.

Why would you prefer a player like Lautaro Martinez to play in Saudi Arabia? He's still very good and he's one of Inter's most important players. If Inter are in a tough spot does that mean they should sell all their important players? Won't that put they in an even more difficult position? They're not the only club with debt and they can manage it.
I believe Inter will reject an offer for Martinez except that offer is too good to be true. Paying off their debt is not the only focus of the club and selling player is not the only source of income. Things are bad for Inter, but not as bad to an extent where they can't even keep their few big players.

@harapan, I understand what you are saying. But I also want to see him in the Saudi League. I said that because I want to see him play alongside Cristiano Ronaldo in Al Nassr. That is going to make the team a lot stronger and they will basically win Almost anything in my opinion. But that is not going to be the best thing for his career in my opinion. He still is playing really well, and he should not go to a league that might actually end his career. And I think if he does end up going to the Saudi League it is going to potentially end his career. At least he’s not going to be in the competitive scenario anymore.

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Quote from: flipme on July 23, 2023, 10:43:50 AM

Everyone knows that there is a contract crisis between Paris Saint-Germain and Mbappe. According to new reports, a similar crisis is taking place between Osimhen and Napoli. Napoli wanted to increase the release clause in Osimhen's contract to 173 million euros. Osimhen wanted the release clause in his contract to remain at 100 million euros. We can talk about the existence of a really serious crisis. While Europe's giant clubs want to transfer Osimhen, it will not be easy for Napoli to convince Osimhen to a new contract. I think it would be a better choice for Napoli to sell Osimhen for 100 million euros instead of convincing him after this stage.

I also think that this would be the best thing to do for Napoli,getting 100 million Euros for such player would benefit them in the long term as they can sign 3 good midfielders for the price of this player.I think he gave his best at Napoli and gave them the title after more than 33 years of waiting so it is only natural for him to be wanting to go to a good club.I don't know any concrete offer for him but I think that Real Madrid is in desperate need of good strikers like him so most probably they are willing to pay those 100 million Euros without any problems whatsoever.

Apparently, it would be a mistake if Napoli kept Osimhen to stay. Because anyway, this is the moment where Osimhen is on the rise, so if for example in the next season Napoli's performance and also Osimhen's performance decreases then maybe Osimhen's selling value will also decrease. So yes, I think it would be better for Napoli to be willing or let Osimhen leave if there are big European clubs who are willing to pay him in the transfer market this time. But, if Napoli have long-term prospects then of course, holding Osimhen could also be the right choice. But unfortunately, this certainly cannot be a definite guarantee for Napoli from time to time.

Napoli should sell Osimhen if any club is willing to pay big money for Osimhen. They will benefit financially. And money is needed to strengthen the team. However, if Napoli management wants to dominate Serie A next season then they should definitely keep Osimhen in the squad. And adding more talented players to the team by providing bigger funds. If Napoli cannot prepare big funds, then keeping Osimhen in the squad will not be profitable for them. If Osimhen's performance deteriorates, Napoli won't be able to demand big money for Osimhen next season.

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Quote from: flipme on July 23, 2023, 10:43:50 AM

Everyone knows that there is a contract crisis between Paris Saint-Germain and Mbappe. According to new reports, a similar crisis is taking place between Osimhen and Napoli. Napoli wanted to increase the release clause in Osimhen's contract to 173 million euros. Osimhen wanted the release clause in his contract to remain at 100 million euros. We can talk about the existence of a really serious crisis. While Europe's giant clubs want to transfer Osimhen, it will not be easy for Napoli to convince Osimhen to a new contract. I think it would be a better choice for Napoli to sell Osimhen for 100 million euros instead of convincing him after this stage.

Napoli are in desperate need of Osimhen's presence in the squad, and they will be willing to let him go if their asking price is agreed by the club looking to sign him. It is certainly a difficult situation for Napoli, as they insist on the price they want at the moment.
I don't even hear anything coming from Osimhen, it seems like he'll just go along with what Napoli say, because maybe he knows that Napoli is the club that made his name.
But is it a good option if he stays at Napoli? With no disrespect to Napoli, I think he should try to join a bigger club.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 23, 2023, 11:13:45 AM

Quote from: flipme on July 23, 2023, 10:43:50 AM

Everyone knows that there is a contract crisis between Paris Saint-Germain and Mbappe. According to new reports, a similar crisis is taking place between Osimhen and Napoli. Napoli wanted to increase the release clause in Osimhen's contract to 173 million euros. Osimhen wanted the release clause in his contract to remain at 100 million euros. We can talk about the existence of a really serious crisis. While Europe's giant clubs want to transfer Osimhen, it will not be easy for Napoli to convince Osimhen to a new contract. I think it would be a better choice for Napoli to sell Osimhen for 100 million euros instead of convincing him after this stage.

I also think that this would be the best thing to do for Napoli,getting 100 million Euros for such player would benefit them in the long term as they can sign 3 good midfielders for the price of this player.I think he gave his best at Napoli and gave them the title after more than 33 years of waiting so it is only natural for him to be wanting to go to a good club.I don't know any concrete offer for him but I think that Real Madrid is in desperate need of good strikers like him so most probably they are willing to pay those 100 million Euros without any problems whatsoever.

Apparently, it would be a mistake if Napoli kept Osimhen to stay. Because anyway, this is the moment where Osimhen is on the rise, so if for example in the next season Napoli's performance and also Osimhen's performance decreases then maybe Osimhen's selling value will also decrease. So yes, I think it would be better for Napoli to be willing or let Osimhen leave if there are big European clubs who are willing to pay him in the transfer market this time. But, if Napoli have long-term prospects then of course, holding Osimhen could also be the right choice. But unfortunately, this certainly cannot be a definite guarantee for Napoli from time to time.

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Quote from: fachant on July 23, 2023, 07:31:49 AM

Juventus team is not able to perform as before. The team was not able to do any extraordinary performance in the last season. But with Paul Pogba and some more players in the team, maybe the team can do better next season. But Paul Pogba needs to perform better.

Next season all teams will probably give a different appearance in the match, especially with the several new players they got through the current transfer market so there will be a more different feel than before and it won't just happen to the Juventus team. I believe that next season maybe every team has to fight to be better because the coaches will always make changes for the better in the clubs they coach.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 23, 2023, 07:25:00 AM

Paul Pogba's future is not certain at Juventus. He has a possibility to leave the team this summer which would be the best for Juventus as well. Because he has done nothing good for Juventus until now. He missed a huge number of matches due to getting injured. It was a big mistake for Juventus to sign him from Manchester United even if it was a free transfer.

Pogba has been earning money without doing something for a long time. This must be an unnecessary load on Juventus as his salary is 10 million euros.

For now there are two interested teams according to rumours: Persepolis FC, Al-Ahli SFC. If Pogba is okay to join one of them Juventus should take this opportunity.

Juventus actually still want to give a chance for Pogba to prove himself to Juventus that he still deserves to play in this team so basically Pogba future is still safe at least until next season although during joining with Juventus he was gets long term injured which make he was unable to playing regularly with Juventus so that's why Pogba was refuse the offers from several clubs who interested to him including Arabian club because he still want to playing with Juventus but there was a bad news for him that Pogba will missed the first match in Serie A

Previously i would like to watching the match Juventus vs Barcelona because i want to see the progress of this team but it is confirmed today that Barcelona has officially to canceled this match because some of Barcelona players have contracted gastroenteritis virus which make they were unable to playing with full squad but this friday Juventus will do other friendly match against AC Milan

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