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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 27, 2023, 06:13:13 PM

Sampdoria started working with Pirlo and he is going to be the new coach in Sampdoria for the next season.
They wanted to start working with Fabio Grosso but since he didn't accept the offer to work there, they sent an offer to Pirlo.
The thing he needs to do is to help Sampdoria get back in Serie A and it seems they need a long-term plan for it.

So he returned to competition in his country after only one year in Turkey with unsatisfactory results?
Seeing Sampdoria drop to Serie B is quite surprising after they were able to stay in Serie A for about a decade but eventually had to return to lower competitions because it was difficult to compete, maybe it will be a question whether Pirlo can bring his new team back up to Serie A in just one or two seasons? because his career at the previous two clubs was not so brilliant, when at Juventus he could only lead his club as Coppa Italia champions, and in Turkey, the club he managed was only able to finish outside the top 5 so he decided to resign.
Sampdoria must have enough money if they want to quickly return to Serie A, because with money they can bring in players who can help them to get back to Serie A competitions.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 27, 2023, 03:19:05 PM

Inter had a wonderful season even though they couldn't be competitive for the Serie A title. Winning two titles and qualifying for the Champions League finale must be more than enough for the team. Inzaghi must have consolidated his seat a little more by this season. They could have even gone for the Serie A title also if it weren't for their bad performance at defending in the time period until the World Cup.

Now they must be financially stronger also and I will be expecting them to make decent improvements for the squad. Inter are seen as the number one title contender next time according to bookies already. They will need to maintain this level to prove them right for sure.

I wonder who will be brought after Lukaku and Dzeko's departures too. They should make their choice of striker carefully to have a nice duo with Lautaro.

Inter Milan deserved more acknowledgment; after all, they won big this season, which made everything go well for them. They have contributes and intricate projects to complete before the start of the next season, one of their strikers, Dzeko, has left the club, and they are battling hard to bring Romelu Lukaku back to San Siro. The Nerazzurri have beneficial offers to bring the Belgium international back to the club, but it appears that it will be tough because Chelsea wants an increase in bids, having already turned down Inter Milan's first offer. Let's hope they can consummate the deal before the transfer window shuts.

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Quote from: asriloni on June 27, 2023, 06:34:27 PM

The question is which team that is willing to buy him? His release clause was very high and i think that only big clubs that owned by billionaires can afford to buy him from napoli. Osimhen's contract is still remain a bit long at this moment with napoli. Im sure that osimhen will stay even longer in napoli instead of leaving from this club. It's enough for him to get another scudetto again with napoli next season. He can choose to leave from the club but his buyer must able to pay non sense price for him which is no even worthy. It's better waiting his contract to end soon rather than try get him right now. I think that any clubs that want him must wait for next season rather than try to bet on him right now.

That's about the fact that Napoli will be able to win the Scudetto again and this season I have very big doubts, because all the events of last season were akin to a miracle, and miracles usually have properties not to be repeated too often, that's why a miracle is called a miracle Wink

Osimhen obviously would not want to stay with Napoli, just as it is obvious that no club is either willing or able to pay the 150 million euros requested by Aurelio De Laurentiis. Therefore, for the time being, most likely Osimhen will stay in Napoli and continue to please the fans of the team. Another question is whether Osimhen will be so joyful and, accordingly, equally scoring, we will find out in the near future.

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Right the loan is over and Inter Milan would have to make an offer that Chelsea accepts. But Lukaku could get into a complicated situation when Chelsea received an offer from Saudi Arabia that is above that from Inter Milan, Chelsea would want to sell him to Saudi Arabia but he doesn't want to go there. But if he stays in Chelsea and Pochettino already made clear that Lukaku isn't part of his plans, he could end up sitting on the grandstand and not even be nominated for the games in the Premier League. That would be the worst case scenario for him but also an asshole move by Chelsea.

I feel that Inter Milan will not get a second agreement to borrow Lukaku again from Chelsea. Because for now Chelsea is one of the teams that has sold more players and this option might also be exercised with Lukaku. if inter milan can't afford to buy Lukaku from Chelsea it could be that Lukaku will go to another team.

Indeed, the Saudi Arabian team is very financially strong in recruiting star players. I think only saudi arabia team is front to get Lukaku because no other team really wants to get Lukaku in this season window. I also heard that Ac milan wants to buy Lukaku, but are they really serious.

Chelsea really plans to release Lukaku they have set a price of 44 million for this player Inter as one of the clubs who want it seems unable to pay that much, besides that Milan also included one who wanted it reportedly Milan is willing to pay 40 million obviously Milan's offer is closer than the price that Chelsea wants. Previously Lukaku got an offer from the Arab League it's just that Lukaku refused because he still wanted to continue the competition in Europe, it seems he doesn't really think about salary.

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Quote from: tiCeR on June 27, 2023, 05:28:39 PM

Right the loan is over and Inter Milan would have to make an offer that Chelsea accepts. But Lukaku could get into a complicated situation when Chelsea received an offer from Saudi Arabia that is above that from Inter Milan, Chelsea would want to sell him to Saudi Arabia but he doesn't want to go there. But if he stays in Chelsea and Pochettino already made clear that Lukaku isn't part of his plans, he could end up sitting on the grandstand and not even be nominated for the games in the Premier League. That would be the worst case scenario for him but also an asshole move by Chelsea.

I feel that Inter Milan will not get a second agreement to borrow Lukaku again from Chelsea. Because for now Chelsea is one of the teams that has sold more players and this option might also be exercised with Lukaku. if inter milan can't afford to buy Lukaku from Chelsea it could be that Lukaku will go to another team.

Indeed, the Saudi Arabian team is very financially strong in recruiting star players. I think only saudi arabia team is front to get Lukaku because no other team really wants to get Lukaku in this season window. I also heard that Ac milan wants to buy Lukaku, but are they really serious.

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The high price is very appropriate in my opinion because Victor Osimhen's quality is very good and at a very young age, now many new shining stars are priced at high prices so it's only natural that Napoli set a pretty fantastic price for this flagship player.
Victor Osimhen is actually better off leaving Napoli and choosing to join other top European top teams, this is all for the future development and advancement of Victor Osimhen's career, especially since he is still young and there are still many things he can achieve.

The question is which team that is willing to buy him? His release clause was very high and i think that only big clubs that owned by billionaires can afford to buy him from napoli. Osimhen's contract is still remain a bit long at this moment with napoli
Im sure that osimhen will stay even longer in napoli instead of leaving from this club. It's enough for him to get another scudetto again with napoli next season.
He can choose to leave from the club but his buyer must able to pay non sense price for him which is no even worthy. It's better waiting his contract to end soon rather than try get him right now.
I think that any clubs that want him must wait for next season rather than try to bet on him right now.

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Sampdoria started working with Pirlo and he is going to be the new coach in Sampdoria for the next season.
They wanted to start working with Fabio Grosso but since he didn't accept the offer to work there, they sent an offer to Pirlo.
The thing he needs to do is to help Sampdoria get back in Serie A and it seems they need a long-term plan for it.

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Quote from: tiCeR on June 26, 2023, 03:12:42 PM

If Lukaku can continue with his performance then he is an important player as he had 16 scorer points in total in roughly 20 games I think. That is remarkable considering that he came from Chelsea and had lost all his confidence. He should not start any new experiments in his career and either stay with Inter Milan now and try to negotiate a contract that lasts for a few years or he should do something completely different, but not go to a club in Eruope like he tried with Chelsea. At his age it could mean a bad ending for him if he can't continue with his performance and ends up on the bench again.

You mean Lukaku will be with Inter Milan next season. Well, everything must be well aligned with the development of Lukaku status at Inter Milan for now because Lukaku loan period with Inter Milan will end this month. So there must be more appropriate steps that must be taken by Inter Milan for Lukaku if Inter Milan still wants to use his services next season, namely by permanent Lukaku from Chelsea. If Inter Milan doesn't do that I think Lukaku will play for another team next season because Chelsea will sell him when his loan ends this month. Indeed, if you look at his performances this season with Inter Milan, of course Lukaku has made an extraordinary contribution to Inter Milan front line where Lukaku is the second player after Martinez to score the most goals in the Inter Milan squad. Lukaku future is full of uncertainty because Inter Milan does not have a strong enough budget to make Lukaku status permanent. That is what has become an obstacle for Inter Milan in this matter.

Right the loan is over and Inter Milan would have to make an offer that Chelsea accepts. But Lukaku could get into a complicated situation when Chelsea received an offer from Saudi Arabia that is above that from Inter Milan, Chelsea would want to sell him to Saudi Arabia but he doesn't want to go there. But if he stays in Chelsea and Pochettino already made clear that Lukaku isn't part of his plans, he could end up sitting on the grandstand and not even be nominated for the games in the Premier League. That would be the worst case scenario for him but also an asshole move by Chelsea.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 27, 2023, 04:08:48 PM

Quote from: Distraction on June 27, 2023, 03:19:05 PM

Inter had a wonderful season even though they couldn't be competitive for the Serie A title. Winning two titles and qualifying for the Champions League finale must be more than enough for the team. Inzaghi must have consolidated his seat a little more by this season. They could have even gone for the Serie A title also if it weren't for their bad performance at defending in the time period until the World Cup.

Now they must be financially stronger also and I will be expecting them to make decent improvements for the squad. Inter are seen as the number one title contender next time according to bookies already. They will need to maintain this level to prove them right for sure.

I wonder who will be brought after Lukaku and Dzeko's departures too. They should make their choice of striker carefully to have a nice duo with Lautaro.

The next season for Inzaghi will be very unpleasant/dangerous - expectations for Inter are high, they are Serie A favorites and any result in the Champions League, except for the final again, will (purely psychologically) be perceived as a deterioration in the result. I highly doubt that luck (in opponents which were on their way to the final) will be on the side of Inter again and I am not at all sure that they will take the Serie A title.

I think it is not that easy anyway in the Serie A when you are the coach of one of the best clubs Pressure will be high but I also think that when a coach had one successful season it is usually safe to say that they are firmly established in the whole business. Even if they lose they job one day here, they also know that they will have another good job elsewhere tomorrow. Inzaghi with his last season has fully arrived I think

But also, at this time Inter fans may have realized that the results from last season especially in the Champions League were extraordinary and are likely not to be achieved season after season. But they will still expect Inzaghi to play for titles.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 27, 2023, 03:19:05 PM

Inter had a wonderful season even though they couldn't be competitive for the Serie A title. Winning two titles and qualifying for the Champions League finale must be more than enough for the team. Inzaghi must have consolidated his seat a little more by this season. They could have even gone for the Serie A title also if it weren't for their bad performance at defending in the time period until the World Cup.

Now they must be financially stronger also and I will be expecting them to make decent improvements for the squad. Inter are seen as the number one title contender next time according to bookies already. They will need to maintain this level to prove them right for sure.

I wonder who will be brought after Lukaku and Dzeko's departures too. They should make their choice of striker carefully to have a nice duo with Lautaro.

The next season for Inzaghi will be very unpleasant/dangerous - expectations for Inter are high, they are Serie A favorites and any result in the Champions League, except for the final again, will (purely psychologically) be perceived as a deterioration in the result. I highly doubt that luck (in opponents which were on their way to the final) will be on the side of Inter again and I am not at all sure that they will take the Serie A title.

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Quote from: babo on June 27, 2023, 02:19:18 AM

Allegri did wonders with the many injured players he had, I really like him as a coach (as I like Spalletti) he's someone who works and doesn't complain and does his best with what he has
he's not like Antonio Conte who complained every day about something he didn't have

If you don't experience a point deduction maybe Juventus will manage to finish in second or third place in my opinion. This achievement was extraordinary and he made it through a phase where many players were injured, but with a makeshift squad he was able to end the season in seventh place in the standings. Allegri is a coach who can make players work hard on the pitch and his tactics are also very good in making the most of the players he has available.

Next season Juventus must set a much bigger target and bring in several players according to the team's needs which is what is really needed, in order to be able to compete again with the top teams in Serie A in the race for the Scudetto and qualify for the Champions League.

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Inter had a wonderful season even though they couldn't be competitive for the Serie A title. Winning two titles and qualifying for the Champions League finale must be more than enough for the team. Inzaghi must have consolidated his seat a little more by this season. They could have even gone for the Serie A title also if it weren't for their bad performance at defending in the time period until the World Cup.

Now they must be financially stronger also and I will be expecting them to make decent improvements for the squad. Inter are seen as the number one title contender next time according to bookies already. They will need to maintain this level to prove them right for sure.

I wonder who will be brought after Lukaku and Dzeko's departures too. They should make their choice of striker carefully to have a nice duo with Lautaro.

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Quote from: Texac on June 27, 2023, 01:25:03 PM

Chelsea's performance last season was very poor. And so they want to rebuild the team. One of the reasons for Chelsea's erratic performance was the poor bonding between the players. So Chelsea's new coach is keen to sell old players to form the team he wants. I expect Chelsea to perform better next season than last season even after selling Lukaku.

It's true but last season they took the beating of the owner's change
Abramovich had to leave the team property in a hurry
which was certainly not healthy for the team itself

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 26, 2023, 06:44:09 AM

As Dzeko is about to join Fenerbahçe and Lukaku is also about to leave the team I wonder what Inter are planning to do. Because they will need to bring at least one centre-forward to the team in this case. Even one might not be enough in the long run thinking of injury or suspension cases as well. One of these strikers should be a reliable one who can make a good duo with Martinez and the other one can be just a good substitute player who can do well when there is a need for him.

Lukaku is among the players who gave their all this season to help Inter Milan succeed, so if we were to list the top players for Inter Milan, we would have to include him. This leads me to believe that even though Lukaku's contract with them is about to expire, I hope they will extend it or renew it so he can play for them again the following year. Additionally, I can see that Lukaku would also like to play for Inter Milan given that other teams like AL Hilal of Saudi Arabia are also looking for him, Because of how well Inter Milan performed the previous season, I believe that this gave him more confidence to remain there. He doesn't want to join another club for fear that they will ruin his reputation there. If he chooses to move on, they won't hear about him like they did before, and we have no idea how the team will perform the following season.

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Quote from: beerlover on June 27, 2023, 09:44:59 AM

Inter made a ton of money last year with being cup winner if I am not wrong, ucl finals runner-up, and being in the top four of the league. When you combine all those together with the extra tickets being sold, and the extra merchandise being sold, and the money you make from winning those and tv rights and all that, the combined money they made is huge.

I criticized them heavily after they sold Lukaku after a great season but that didn't mean that it stopped them, they did very well anyway and I think they are doing a good job, Lukaku is back again as well but he is not really the way he used to be after the injury. Long story short they will have all the financial needs covered and will be able to make a profit when the time comes but first they will build a better squad too.

It's been a very good season for Inter, thanks in large part to a good performance in the Champions League. Whether they will be able to repeat their success in the next Champions League, to be honest, I doubt it, and I am also not sure that they will be able to compete for the Scudetto. In Serie A, they were too unstable, perhaps the reason was also that they gave a lot of strength to the Champions League, but they were not the only ones who had to play in several tournaments. If they really managed to make a good profit this season, then they will have the opportunity to strengthen the team, but I don’t see big transfers expected yet, the last one is Thuram from Borussia Mönchengladbach, and he will join the team as a free agent.

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Saudi Arabia teams are trying desperately to make Allegri join them but also Modric from La Liga rejected a very nice gift from them.
It is about playing competitive football rather than enjoying money which is a little bit surprised.

Modric is a good player and understands that if he leaves Real, his career will end at an unknown club... That's why he chose to continue playing at Real... Nothing surprising about that, money is not the main thing in everyone's life... As for Saudi Arabia, it is interesting to see how they try to attract top players from different leagues to their country... But it seems to me that it won't succeed anyway... They just have a lot of money but little skill...

The case of Luka Modric rejecting to join the Saudi Arabian club at his age is still a big surprise to me because the player is good no doubt but going there he will be offered more than a two years contract and he's going to earn more money than the amount he's been paid in Real Madrid and he can still come back to any team in Europe as a free transfer before officially retiring from playing football. It's obvious he's not playing for the money anymore and he's still believes that he has a lot of work to do in Real Madrid and helping them to win more trophies is definitely going to be he's goal anyway because he has really done well for the them. Good to see a player who have chosen his team over big money it shows the love he has for the team and good football.

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That depends on how progress between lukaku and chelsea. I just read from gazetta if wants to sell him as soon as possible. Chelsea has been even decreasing lukaku's price so much. He is not priced almost a half from previous price.

Chelsea are a rich club but they must obey financial rules from UEFA. They are already in a watch list of UEFA and they will have to try to balance between transfer values from bought and sold players. With players who are receiving high salary and Chelsea don't have plan to use, they will try their best to sell those players and get some sort of money back. Lukaku is in their sale list, no doubt about it.

Chelsea are undoubtedly a rich team, but giving away talent is never a good thing. Of course if he has to raise cash it's another matter, if it were me I wouldn't easily give up a player like Lukaku who can make the difference in the opponents!

Lukaku has hinted he doesn't even want to stay at Chelsea. I think his performance in the Champions league final in which he was in the way of a goal bound ball, and also missed an opportunity to equalize still haunts him.
Perhaps with Inter still looking able to get to the final again, he could redeem himself.

Ac Milan and Al Hilal of Saudi Arabia also has shown interest in Lukaku but he insists on inter Milan. Inter sure gives him the comfort at this point of his career when he is nearing retirement and I feel it suits him his style now.

It is even better to play to a winning strategy from same manager, than to play to one who just got hired, has a team to build, players to offload and players to buy, without even a solid assurance of a final.

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At an age like Luca Modric, there are those who start thinking about money, there are those like Modric where when he feels he can play for a top club like Real Madrid, he will be happy to do it and without thinking about the money that is offered to him. Modric himself must have considered what will happen next when he is unable to provide the best for the club, and surely that is a risk that he will be ready to take on later.

Winning Champions League is a dream for every player and many super star players did not win a single Champions League. Luka Modric has won five Champions League titles and he even won a Ballon d'Or as well as many La Liga titles with Real Madrid. In Croatia, he has been awarding as a best player of Croatia in many years. He can retire anytime he want without regret.

However he still plays very well at nearly 40s and it is another big surprise from Modric. He still don't want to leave Europe and I guess he wants to win one more Champions League with Real Madrid or want to win a title with Croatia. This summer he came very nearly to a first title with his national team but failed in a penalty shootouts by Spain.

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Joining a Saudi Arabian club is a shortcut, especially for those players who have not been looked at by many European clubs, of course the money they will get is so tempting.

Joining a Saudi Arabia club and be rich is not too bad. I believe Modric will join that league soon, maybe after Euro 2024 as after that, it's impossible for him to aim at World Cup 2026.

Yes, winning a prestigious title is a dream for every player, and Luca Modric has earned it with Real Madrid, but that doesn't just make him satisfied and he still wants to wear a Real Madrid uniform when he is no longer young as he is today. And also he is showing a good game to make Real Madrid still want him to be on the list of squad names that will go through the next season. And also his ability on the pitch with his old age still really deserves to be in the squad.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on June 27, 2023, 09:31:07 AM

Don't say a player is not looking at the money or must play in Europe, it's all about your choice, and mind you, some people choose poorly whether you like it or not, but it's their choice. And this still doesn't mean he would not get the offer next year as he only extended his contract by a year with Real Madrid, why not more if he so sees this the way you narrated?

For the record, most players always go for the best offer, and for those that have been well-decorated already, I see no reason why they can't play for the money in the few years remaining in their career. They should think of their retirement above anything else and learn from the former shining players that can no more afford to pay their hospital bills again.

I wouldn't say they don't play for money, because they are also working but their job is a paid hobby. It's clear that they really need money, moreover they will definitely retire and enjoy old age with their family, and of course that requires money. I think we understand when talking about money is the nominal, and it's true that it is a player's choice where they will play. But now it is clear that the nominal money offered will be more when he goes to Arabia.

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That depends on how progress between lukaku and chelsea. I just read from gazetta if wants to sell him as soon as possible. Chelsea has been even decreasing lukaku's price so much. He is not priced almost a half from previous price.

Chelsea are a rich club but they must obey financial rules from UEFA. They are already in a watch list of UEFA and they will have to try to balance between transfer values from bought and sold players. With players who are receiving high salary and Chelsea don't have plan to use, they will try their best to sell those players and get some sort of money back. Lukaku is in their sale list, no doubt about it.

Chelsea are undoubtedly a rich team, but giving away talent is never a good thing. Of course if he has to raise cash it's another matter, if it were me I wouldn't easily give up a player like Lukaku who can make the difference in the opponents!

What's unfortunate is that they only looked at Lukaku's poor performance in the Champions League final, so Lukaku was treated like that. Meanwhile, in reality, Lukaku can of course still play well because after all, every player will certainly get that kind of experience. But yes, because Lukaku's status is a loan player and Chelsea is a club that has Lukaku's contract, but at this moment Chelsea don't seem to want to get Lukaku back in their squad. Also at the same time, it seems that Inter are also looking at it from the same side, so of course Lukaku is a player who is certainly on the list of players to be sold. But unfortunately, it seems that there are still no other big clubs that have an interest in signing Lukaku.

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Quote from: giammangiato on June 27, 2023, 11:17:27 AM

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That depends on how progress between lukaku and chelsea. I just read from gazetta if wants to sell him as soon as possible. Chelsea has been even decreasing lukaku's price so much. He is not priced almost a half from previous price.

Chelsea are a rich club but they must obey financial rules from UEFA. They are already in a watch list of UEFA and they will have to try to balance between transfer values from bought and sold players. With players who are receiving high salary and Chelsea don't have plan to use, they will try their best to sell those players and get some sort of money back. Lukaku is in their sale list, no doubt about it.

Chelsea are undoubtedly a rich team, but giving away talent is never a good thing. Of course if he has to raise cash it's another matter, if it were me I wouldn't easily give up a player like Lukaku who can make the difference in the opponents!

Chelsea's performance last season was very poor. And so they want to rebuild the team. One of the reasons for Chelsea's erratic performance was the poor bonding between the players. So Chelsea's new coach is keen to sell old players to form the team he wants. I expect Chelsea to perform better next season than last season even after selling Lukaku.

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