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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 16, 2023, 06:02:58 PM

There is a new era started for Napoli with the departure of Spalletti and the arrival of Rudi Garcia. Rudi Garcia isn't a manager whose career is full of achievements maybe. But he made Lille the Ligue 1 champions in the past. If he builds up a good level of chemistry with his players at Napoli then they can still be in the title race next season as well.

But this is mostly dependent on whether they lose their most important players or not. Osimhen's price tag must be around 130-140 million euros. This is a really huge amount and even the richest teams think twice before paying this for him. If Napoli manage to keep Osimhen for next season then they can really be very competitive once again.

I think Rudi garcia is familiar with the atmosphere of Serie A because he has coached Rome before. I think a big challenge will come to him next season because Napoli's status is the reigning champion. With his coaching style, I'm sure he will be quickly understood by Napoli players. Well, one support for him is to keep his core players from leaving for other clubs in this season's transfer window, such as Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia.

Next season Napoli will be one of the teams that is highly reckoned with in Serie A after their good performances this season. Even next season Napoli will be quite busy with a busy schedule and I think Rudi garcia should understand this from now on where he has to buy better players to support himself in helping Napoli retain the title next season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 16, 2023, 06:02:58 PM

There is a new era started for Napoli with the departure of Spalletti and the arrival of Rudi Garcia. Rudi Garcia isn't a manager whose career is full of achievements maybe. But he made Lille the Ligue 1 champions in the past. If he builds up a good level of chemistry with his players at Napoli then they can still be in the title race next season as well.

He has also a wonderful journey with as roma. I think that rudi is more competence in managing italian club rather than galtier. I remember when napoli linked to the galtier. Glad to see that if the club is not hiring, galtier as a new manager. galtier would be able to destroy the club.
Rudi is a bit better as he has good experience in italian league. I remember rudi was almost making as roma to be a winner in the league but it ends as runner-up a long time ago.

It seems like that things have become the main consideration from napoli's president to sign him as a new coach. Rudi knew the condition in serie a.

Aurelio De Laurentiis seems to take it as how competence him to be a new coach for napoli. As long as it's not galtier and im fine with it.

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There is a new era started for Napoli with the departure of Spalletti and the arrival of Rudi Garcia. Rudi Garcia isn't a manager whose career is full of achievements maybe. But he made Lille the Ligue 1 champions in the past. If he builds up a good level of chemistry with his players at Napoli then they can still be in the title race next season as well.

But this is mostly dependent on whether they lose their most important players or not. Osimhen's price tag must be around 130-140 million euros. This is a really huge amount and even the richest teams think twice before paying this for him. If Napoli manage to keep Osimhen for next season then they can really be very competitive once again.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 16, 2023, 05:36:09 AM

It seems that the election of Rudi Garcia as the new coach of Napoli has left a lot of negative opinions about him and I quite agree with what my friends are saying here. It is clear that Galtier has far better quality than Rudi Garcia, but we cannot change what has happened and look at the fact that Napoli will be handled by Rudi Garcia.

Napoli can choose better coach than rudi or galtier. Galtier was not good caused by he was winning a trophy in the farmer league. The quality is far compared with a competitive competition like serie a.
There are so many world class manager available to handle the club but the thing that surprises me is how can napoli consider rudi after he has been sacked by al nassr?
He is a former of as roma coach.

Quote from: rendravolt on June 16, 2023, 05:36:09 AM

There will definitely be significant changes at Napoli and I don't even know what will happen to Napoli next season with such intense competition every week. It is likely that Napoli will go into a gradual decline and that will be the reason some of their players will leave the club mid-season, but there is also no doubt that after hearing the new coach some of the Napoli players will accept offers from other European clubs.

I do agree with that. It's caused by a different coach will give different impact toward the club. As far as i know that if a team that has been building properly can be destroyed by the incapability of a new coach to handle the club like the old coach.
We will see that how good he is coaching napoli in the pre match. It seems like that he will be implementing the strategy that has ever used in roma / nassr into the napoli.
Im not sure if he will able to use all of skills that owned by osimhen.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on June 16, 2023, 02:59:59 PM

I see great potential in this Roma team. I also see that Jose Mourinho can take this team towards better results and be successful. A lot of people might disagree with me but I honestly think that if José Mourinho is given enough time and backed up with enough money he will actually be able to beat this team and compete for the league title. And money is a very big factor here. Without money, they will not be able to get the players which they want and success will always be away.

i heard unpleasant news, Roma plans to sell Roger Ibanez to West Ham or Tottenham and Kluivert to Bournemouth, i know Roma's current performance is not in good condition, especially since the quality of Roma players can be said to be below that of the big teams other italians like juventus, inter and milan. the thing that i can predict in the future if Roma only sells, not by buying good players is performance that is definitely stagnant or tends to decline, we might only see Rome fail to finish in the top 10 next season.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 16, 2023, 03:24:56 PM

In this season we saw Roma had a good coach and Jose Mourinho did a good job there but even the best coach needs some tools and these tools are players they have.
That's why even if Jose Mourinho says in Roma for another season and tries harder with this team, he needs some more investments for his teams to hire better players, otherwise even the next season he can't achieve anything with the Roma we saw in this season.

I do not dispute what you have said, but in my opinion, Roma this season is the same as last season, namely finishing in 6th place. Even in this season, they seem to have failed to go further in their achievements in Serie A because they failed to close the season in top 4 .

They also experienced other failures in the European league where Roma had to lose to Sevilla which made Roma close this season without a trophy. But on the one hand, Roma performance in the Europa league was very impressive because Dybala et al made it to the final and maybe that is a pretty good achievement for them.

I think roma needs an injection of power for next season. Therefore Mourinho should be given a lot of money to make changes in the team by bringing in some great players to support their strength for next season. Mourinho is no doubt his skill in building a team but this time it looks like he needs time to bring Roma to win the scudetto.

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The inability of Rome to offer sufficient financial opportunities reduces the success of Jose Mourinho. Of course, their players are not of poor quality, but the squad size and quality of Inter and Juventus are better than Roma. Their backups are also of higher quality and they do not experience disruptions in their plans in rotation. Mourinho, on the other hand, may not get the desired efficiency there after a player is injured. If we think from this point of view, I think the successes achieved with Rome are more valuable.

Well, Roma is not a bad team. The players that they have are not bad. But the strength of the squad overall is not very good. As if one player gets injured, it is very hard to replace him at this moment with a player who will actually be able to perform at the same level as him. We have seen the exact thing happen in the last season. They were not able to replace injured players properly. That’s why they have lost a few matches that they probably shouldn’t have.

This obviously can be fixed with money. But I wonder if José Mourinho is actually going to have the financial freedom to get the players in the squad that he wants.

Undoubtedly, Roma's current squad is made up of world class players that are enough to achieve whatever is expected them to achieve at the club.
However, the depth and of the squad isn't as strong as some of their Italian counterparts and that's why it'll be very difficult for Jose Mourinho to well with the current sqaud. Roma's financial strength doesn't give Mourinho the advantage of signing any player of his choice at the moment. Surely they're gonna get few additional players to the Roma side before the end of the summer but that must be players within the club's financial strength

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Quote from: Distraction on June 16, 2023, 12:33:08 PM

Juventus have completed the season with a big disappointment. They only managed to make it to the Europa Conference League and that's all. No titles no noteworthy achievements. I know that their points were dropped and they were technically demoted from their Champions League groups chance. But this is still not an excuse for Allegri undoubtedly.

Certainly, especially for the players and coaches. They have tried very hard, gaining point after point, but in the end their hopes had to be dashed due to the club's mistake which had to bear the sanction of point deductions. This of course has a significant impact not only on the number of points but also on the mentality and emotions of the players. So that they often seem unfocused and lack enthusiasm in the match. And before that, they had entered the top 4 again after their points were returned, but in the end, they had to give up again because the sanctions on the club were actually applied and the point reduction really knocked them out. This is a lesson for Juventus, especially club management and also for all clubs to be more careful and not make illegal decisions for the good of the club.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 16, 2023, 03:24:56 PM

In this season we saw Roma had a good coach and Jose Mourinho did a good job there but even the best coach needs some tools and these tools are players they have.
That's why even if Jose Mourinho says in Roma for another season and tries harder with this team, he needs some more investments for his teams to hire better players, otherwise even the next season he can't achieve anything with the Roma we saw in this season.

The Seria's This season has been extremely competitive, with three clubs qualifying for different European finals and returning home empty-handed. They didn't accomplish anything, but they did take some excellent measures to get it to the finals. Roma's opponents, Sevilla, smashed them in penalty shootouts. AS Roma has to enhance their game by bringing in more talented players. José Mourinho's objective is to win trophies with the club; there are certainly more titles to be won, but we all know he can't accomplish it with the current roster; he needs to make some changes.

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In this season we saw Roma had a good coach and Jose Mourinho did a good job there but even the best coach needs some tools and these tools are players they have.
That's why even if Jose Mourinho says in Roma for another season and tries harder with this team, he needs some more investments for his teams to hire better players, otherwise even the next season he can't achieve anything with the Roma we saw in this season.

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Yes, I agree with that, the management of AS Roma should be able to provide greater support for Jose Muourinho to build this team even better, it's been 2 seasons since Mourinho's arrival, there have been a lot of changes in this team and it's much better and I'm sure if Roma spends some players quality stars, it is likely that Mourinho will provide much better results next season.
Roma are very lucky to have a coach who is very experienced and of good quality. It has been a long time since the Roama team left some of the top Serie A teams, but now they are back in the top flight and should be reckoned with.

No one will underestimate Roma as long as they have good form in Serie A regardless of who is the coach. Roma played well and were able to compete closely in the Serie A standings under Mourinho, but Roma have not won the Scudetto since they last won it in the 2000–01 season. Mourinho has led Roma to the UEFA European Conference League title in the 2021-2022 season, but he failed to win another title where his team only finished runners up in the Europa League this season.
Roma must help Mourinho build a better team next season if he wants to stay longer. It is clear that Mourinho, who has experience, will be more likely to present tough competition among other top Serie A teams from season to season.

I see great potential in this Roma team. I also see that Jose Mourinho can take this team towards better results and be successful. A lot of people might disagree with me but I honestly think that if José Mourinho is given enough time and backed up with enough money he will actually be able to beat this team and compete for the league title. And money is a very big factor here. Without money, they will not be able to get the players which they want and success will always be away.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on June 16, 2023, 01:49:45 PM

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If they finished at the fourth position then they could have at least kept their consistency. But it is ruined also. I don't know what the new board are thinking about Allegri now. I would have already sacked him because of the poor look in most part of the season. Allegri's system isn't good anymore. Juventus should be able to create more goal chances than this. Even Vlahovic couldn't become very effective like in the last season due to this.

If not get 10 points deduction Juventus has chance for finishing on top fourth standings placed and participants in Champion League next season, but fatal mistake with not transparent and manipulative about transfer values made FIGC have deduction 10 points for Juventus. Indeed points deduction, Juventus faced many problem in this season with Allegri tactic more boring and he can't make Juventus play attractive for scoring many goals on every games.

Dušan Vlahović has consistent performance with previous club Fiorentina, but under Allegri he faced difficult keep scoring goals on every games and I don't think wrong with Dušan Vlahović but how difficult for understanding with Allegri's scheme.

All that has passed now, take this punishment as a reminder that they will not do the same in the future because of course this will only hurt themselves in the end.
The opportunity to be in the Champions League just slipped away, they also could only be in the Conference league next season and that was unimaginable before for a club like Juventus.
Talking about Dusan is indeed a bit complicated. His decline was very pronounced and indeed as you said it looks like Dusan has indeed lost momentum at Juventus and he failed to adapt to Allegri's scheme.
On the other hand, he is also rarely able to get the ball very well for himself which makes it a bit difficult for Dusan as he is always a bit of a good supply when it comes to the ball. Injuries also took a toll on him in this regard which made it even more difficult for Dusan this season.

Now some news that he is interested in several big clubs are still being heard but indeed there is still no development whatsoever regarding this matter. Now he also has to try even harder because his potential is still very good and it would be a shame if his potential which had been honed at Fiorentina had to be destroyed at Juventus.

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Quote from: ShowOff on June 16, 2023, 12:40:51 PM

Juventus are basically far more deserving of qualifying for next season's Champions League than Milan, but because of the point deduction, Juventus must accept this harsh reality. I think Juventus will be better prepared for next season and prove their worth again in Serie A, and I think they have a great chance to provide tough competition with Napoli, Inter and Milan at the top of the table.

If Juventus won the matches with Empoli and Milan, then they would get a place in the Champions League, and they would not even hurt that they were fined 10 points. Therefore, it’s not worth talking about who deserved more, especially since Milan this season was very good in the Champions League and it would be a shame if they could not take part in this tournament again. Juventus in Serie A will fight for the championship, let them find their game, and then they will return to the Champions League.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 16, 2023, 12:33:08 PM

If they finished at the fourth position then they could have at least kept their consistency. But it is ruined also. I don't know what the new board are thinking about Allegri now. I would have already sacked him because of the poor look in most part of the season. Allegri's system isn't good anymore. Juventus should be able to create more goal chances than this. Even Vlahovic couldn't become very effective like in the last season due to this.

If not get 10 points deduction Juventus has chance for finishing on top fourth standings placed and participants in Champion League next season, but fatal mistake with not transparent and manipulative about transfer values made FIGC have deduction 10 points for Juventus. Indeed points deduction, Juventus faced many problem in this season with Allegri tactic more boring and he can't make Juventus play attractive for scoring many goals on every games.

Dušan Vlahović has consistent performance with previous club Fiorentina, but under Allegri he faced difficult keep scoring goals on every games and I don't think wrong with Dušan Vlahović but how difficult for understanding with Allegri's scheme.

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The inability of Rome to offer sufficient financial opportunities reduces the success of Jose Mourinho. Of course, their players are not of poor quality, but the squad size and quality of Inter and Juventus are better than Roma. Their backups are also of higher quality and they do not experience disruptions in their plans in rotation. Mourinho, on the other hand, may not get the desired efficiency there after a player is injured. If we think from this point of view, I think the successes achieved with Rome are more valuable.

Well, Roma is not a bad team. The players that they have are not bad. But the strength of the squad overall is not very good. As if one player gets injured, it is very hard to replace him at this moment with a player who will actually be able to perform at the same level as him. We have seen the exact thing happen in the last season. They were not able to replace injured players properly. That’s why they have lost a few matches that they probably shouldn’t have.

This obviously can be fixed with money. But I wonder if José Mourinho is actually going to have the financial freedom to get the players in the squad that he wants.

It's quite unfortunate if that happens because of course, having players who have good quality will make the rotation of players right. But, if AS Roma and Mourinho are lucky, then I think they can maximize the potential of each player because only in that way AS Roma doesn't have to spend a lot of money. But yes, I also realize it is a difficult job, but if AS Roma really don't have a lot of money to spend, then surely Mourinho will just maximize the skills that every player has.

There is no choice but to take shortcuts to improve the performance of all AS Roma players when there is not enough money to get better skilled players to buy.
Jose Mourinho will not give up just because of unstable finances because Jose Mourinho knows that he has a responsibility to strengthen the club's performance.

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Quote from: asriloni on June 15, 2023, 11:03:20 PM

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As you can see that napoli was just announcing its new coach rudi garcia. To be honest even though if the squad was unchanged but the problem if different coach will be also making so many difference. Rudi garcia will not be using the same strategy as spalletti to handle napoli. Im sure about this.
I don't even know why napoli was picking rudi garcia as a new coach. Napoli needs someone that can handle club properly like spalletti. Garcia termined from al nassr and he is now hired as a new coach in napoli which is a surprise for me.
I never thought if he was him who will become napoli's new coach.

I genuinely do not understand this decision from Napoli. What are they trying to achieve by getting Rudi Garcia as the manager of the club? As the champion of Serie A, I think they should have made better choices in choosing the manager.

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Let's see what decision will be taken by rudi garcia. In my opinion if he will not make major changes in the club.
I can't even predict it if napoli signed rudi garcia as a new coach. he has ever coached roma and roma has become runner up two times under him.

I also do not think that he is going to make so many big changes. He will probably go ahead with the same squad that is already there. He was the coach of Roma from 2013 to 2016, I believe. I am very skeptical about his tactics now though.

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Juventus have completed the season with a big disappointment. They only managed to make it to the Europa Conference League and that's all. No titles no noteworthy achievements. I know that their points were dropped and they were technically demoted from their Champions League groups chance. But this is still not an excuse for Allegri undoubtedly.

If they finished at the fourth position then they could have at least kept their consistency. But it is ruined also. I don't know what the new board are thinking about Allegri now. I would have already sacked him because of the poor look in most part of the season. Allegri's system isn't good anymore. Juventus should be able to create more goal chances than this. Even Vlahovic couldn't become very effective like in the last season due to this.

Juventus are basically far more deserving of qualifying for next season's Champions League than Milan, but because of the point deduction, Juventus must accept this harsh reality. I think Juventus will be better prepared for next season and prove their worth again in Serie A, and I think they have a great chance to provide tough competition with Napoli, Inter and Milan at the top of the table.

I'm not a big Juventus fan but I like their style of play. I things Milan and several other teams realize that Juventus will return to the top of the table next season after their failure this season. Several players are also worth considering for Juventus especially to make their squad depth better, but so far they have a lot of good players on the list.

Yea,Juve did perform better than Milan this past season,even with the deduction of points they still ended up on a good position on the table. I just hope that they will learn from their mistake of what they did that made FIFA to deduct their point and other clubs will also learn from Juve. I believe that next season is a bright one for them because they will come up with a great performance so that they can finish top four on the table. If it wasn't for the point deduct,we would have seen them in next year's UCL.

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The fact that Napoli hired the guy who was fired because of Ronaldo proves a point. Ronaldo himself couldn't find a job at Europe, but the manager he got kicked out ended up finding one. I still think Napoli should have kept their manager that brought them a title 3 decades later, they did something VERY stupid by firing him, but that doesn't change the fact that they needed a new one.

Let's see how Garcia will do, I do not think that he will do all that terribly, he is a decent manager that played very well and I think he will make sure that the team is on the right path as he has taken it, right now they are the latest champions so the goal should be getting that title again, but they may fail and that's alright but they should be high up there at least, top three team.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 16, 2023, 12:33:08 PM

Juventus have completed the season with a big disappointment. They only managed to make it to the Europa Conference League and that's all. No titles no noteworthy achievements. I know that their points were dropped and they were technically demoted from their Champions League groups chance. But this is still not an excuse for Allegri undoubtedly.

If they finished at the fourth position then they could have at least kept their consistency. But it is ruined also. I don't know what the new board are thinking about Allegri now. I would have already sacked him because of the poor look in most part of the season. Allegri's system isn't good anymore. Juventus should be able to create more goal chances than this. Even Vlahovic couldn't become very effective like in the last season due to this.

Juventus are basically far more deserving of qualifying for next season's Champions League than Milan, but because of the point deduction, Juventus must accept this harsh reality. I think Juventus will be better prepared for next season and prove their worth again in Serie A, and I think they have a great chance to provide tough competition with Napoli, Inter and Milan at the top of the table.

I'm not a big Juventus fan but I like their style of play. I things Milan and several other teams realize that Juventus will return to the top of the table next season after their failure this season. Several players are also worth considering for Juventus especially to make their squad depth better, but so far they have a lot of good players on the list.

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Juventus have completed the season with a big disappointment. They only managed to make it to the Europa Conference League and that's all. No titles no noteworthy achievements. I know that their points were dropped and they were technically demoted from their Champions League groups chance. But this is still not an excuse for Allegri undoubtedly.

If they finished at the fourth position then they could have at least kept their consistency. But it is ruined also. I don't know what the new board are thinking about Allegri now. I would have already sacked him because of the poor look in most part of the season. Allegri's system isn't good anymore. Juventus should be able to create more goal chances than this. Even Vlahovic couldn't become very effective like in the last season due to this.

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