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Quote from: Pulsar77 on April 17, 2023, 09:43:07 AM

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It is funny how Sassuolo usually have won at home against Juventus even when Juventus were fighting for the title and even have won it,they used to lose the game at Sassuolo,I remember the 2-1 lost game of them in the season where Sassuolo was just promoted to Serie A a couple of seasons ago.
However it is not only Juventus who have screwed up,all the big teams,Milan,Napoli and Inter screwed up their games and Juventus was just a continuation of such happening,for this week I never remember a Serie A with more surprise results than this week where all the big teams except Lazio who won comfortably and Roma who is winning now,all of them did not win their games.

Yeah exactly. This week has been one of the worst match weeks for most of top teams in the league. Only Roma and Lazio were able to get a win and they were really easy ones as well. Of course there is a reason behind those point losses as well. Their mind must have been busy with their matches in European cups. However Roma were also in the same situation but they didn't want to care less about their Serie A match. Because it was another important match for them to keep themselves in top four.
Milan are lucky to finish the week in top four anyway thanks to Inter's unexpected loss. Seriously how can Inter lose that match? Grin

Inter tried really hard to win that match. They had also made a lot of attacks. But sadly, none of them were actually very good or well planned in my opinion. And I could feel that Inter was actually getting very frustrated toward the end of the match. And that frustration was the only reason they ended up conceding.

Actually, when I was watching the match, it actually felt like that was the only chance that Monza got. They ended up converting that. But all the chances that Inter got were not converted. No one actually can blame them. They are the only ones to blame for the loss.

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Quote from: Bobrox on April 18, 2023, 09:37:29 AM

Lazio and AS Roma are top six teams standing success win last match after other team from Napoli, Milan, Inter and Atatalanta losing their points. Crucial with Inter Milan have focus on second leg games in Champion League have defeated by AC Monza and their opportunity return to the top fourth standing this week have been failed.

Lazio seems comfortable on 2rd position because they have ten points left from Inter Milan and five winning games later Lazio will get Champion League ticket for next season, AS Roma has the same opportunity with Lazio because consistent on 3rd standings with 8 matches left but most crucial two games later against Atalanta and Milan, winning against Atalanta and Milan exactly Roma will be close with 3rd standing and Champion League spot ticket next season.

I hope that the championship will end with the same position of the teams as it is now. I have nothing against Inter, but a team with 11 defeats does not look very good in the top 4. By the way, it’s a pity that outrights are not available now and you can’t see bookmakers’ quotes for the top 4 (is it really so important for them to know the results in the Champions League in order to assess the chances?). It seems to me that Lazio is already in the 1.2 region, and Roma is 1.5-1.6.

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As always I said here:

Source: https://twitter.com/InArteMatt/status/1648233665271324675

Now they are trying to do the same thing with the -15 points.

It will be interesting this week.

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I think that's a bit about being a "big club" as well, you have to grease the right hands as well as being a good team. If you are a good team but the federation of your nation is out to get you, it could be refs, it could be VAR it could be points, anything bad could happen to you. If you want to be big, and I mean really big, then you need to focus on how you could convince them to do nothing about what you do.

I agree that -15 points was an overkill for what has happened, and there is an obvious situation where Juventus is being attacked right now, even as a foreigner who has never been to Italy and has absolutely no fandom over Juventus, I can see that clearly so that means Juventus must have pissed some people off.

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Quote from: Bobrox on April 18, 2023, 09:37:29 AM

Lazio and AS Roma are top six teams standing success win last match after other team from Napoli, Milan, Inter and Atatalanta losing their points. Crucial with Inter Milan have focus on second leg games in Champion League have defeated by AC Monza and their opportunity return to the top fourth standing this week have been failed.

Lazio seems comfortable on 2rd position because they have ten points left from Inter Milan and five winning games later Lazio will get Champion League ticket for next season, AS Roma has the same opportunity with Lazio because consistent on 3rd standings with 8 matches left but most crucial two games later against Atalanta and Milan, winning against Atalanta and Milan exactly Roma will be close with 3rd standing and Champion League spot ticket next season.

For me personally it was very unexpected that Lazio and AS Roma could finish in the top four, because previously I assumed Lazio and AS Roma would not be able to maintain their position in the top four. But yes, because the competing teams in the top four such as Inter, Atalanta and maybe also Juventus, at the same time these teams are experiencing a decline in performance.

So, with these different trends, it will certainly make it easier for Lazio and AS Roma to be in the top four maybe until the end of the season. Of course, for me this is an achievement for Lazio as well as AS Roma and what's more, when Serie A has a different title winner it is Napoli, and in fact Serie A also has a new representative for next season's Champions League for Lazio and also AS Roma.

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I didn't understand that Inter will lose the match in today's Inter vs Monza match of the Italian League. I thought that Inter is ahead in the points table, so maybe Inter will win the match. But the players of Inter team could not score any goals in the match. Monza showed an amazing performance. Both teams played very well in the early part of the game but Monza took the lead with 1 goal in the 78th minute. After that neither team managed to score another goal. In the end Monza won by 1 goal.

The reason why Monza can beat Inter Milan is not just because Monza had a good performance against this team but the main reason for this result was the poor performance of Inter Milan they had a good time for just a few weeks when they were in the second place of the table but recently they have an unstable situation and even in the games they won they have poor performance.

Inter Milan have had problems in their line of attack since this season has just started. they are good at making chances but they are terrible at finishing. Inter Milan's defeat by Monza was very unexpected. because I didn't think that Monza would be the winner in that match. and This is a pretty embarrassing result for Inter Milan.

Inter Milan suffered a disappointing 0-1 loss at their home ground against Monza.
They struggled and failed to score a single goal. This result marks their third consecutive home defeat without managing to score. The worst attack, always struggles in front of goal. Inter Milan will have to work hard to turn things around against Benfica following their Champions League return leg. It seems that the road ahead may be challenging, if they want to remain in contention.

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If Atalanta manage to win against Fiorentina today then this is going to be really bad for Juventus. Because the gap between in the standings will be 7 points and it will be much more difficult for Juventus to keep up for a spot in the Europa Conference League. I might understand the loss against Lazio a little despite that bad performance but Juventus shouldn't have played that much bad against Sassuolo which led to another loss. They just gave many chances to Atalanta to get away from them more.

However right now Fiorentina look like the better playing side against Atalanta. If they increase the level of pressure in the second half then they can manage to turn the match around. But actually Fiorentina don't have much goal left for this season so I still doubt that possible comeback. But who knows maybe they can do this anyway thanks to their amazing form in the recent times.

It's still halftime for both teams and I think even though Atalanta are already 1 goal ahead, the result is still not safe considering that Fiorentina have also had good performances in several of their matches. Maybe what will be unexpected is the comeback from Fiorentina and I'm pretty sure they can do it in the second half. Even so, the second H2H often ends in narrow wins for each team. But if Fiorentina fail to comeback then they will target a draw in this match.

Atalanta has been one of the best performing club in the Italian league in the past three seasons but their performance this season has been short of their standard because I was expecting them to finish the season in any of the top four positions.
If they had won tonight, they would've been just two points behind the fourth placed club. They still have some more matches play before the end of the season and with determination, a top four finish is still possible

It's just that Atalanta's victory faded in that match after Fiorentina equalized through a goal scored from the spot in the 56th minute. Even after the score was level, Atalanta was unable to score again and at the same time made the draw score last until the final whistle sounded. With this result, Atalanta will have to be patient again in 6th place in the standings and it seems that next week Atalanta will be closer to Inter if they manage to beat Roma at home.

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Lazio and AS Roma are top six teams standing success win last match after other team from Napoli, Milan, Inter and Atatalanta losing their points. Crucial with Inter Milan have focus on second leg games in Champion League have defeated by AC Monza and their opportunity return to the top fourth standing this week have been failed.

Lazio seems comfortable on 2rd position because they have ten points left from Inter Milan and five winning games later Lazio will get Champion League ticket for next season, AS Roma has the same opportunity with Lazio because consistent on 3rd standings with 8 matches left but most crucial two games later against Atalanta and Milan, winning against Atalanta and Milan exactly Roma will be close with 3rd standing and Champion League spot ticket next season.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on April 18, 2023, 07:38:34 AM

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I didn't understand that Inter will lose the match in today's Inter vs Monza match of the Italian League. I thought that Inter is ahead in the points table, so maybe Inter will win the match. But the players of Inter team could not score any goals in the match. Monza showed an amazing performance. Both teams played very well in the early part of the game but Monza took the lead with 1 goal in the 78th minute. After that neither team managed to score another goal. In the end Monza won by 1 goal.

The reason why Monza can beat Inter Milan is not just because Monza had a good performance against this team but the main reason for this result was the poor performance of Inter Milan they had a good time for just a few weeks when they were in the second place of the table but recently they have an unstable situation and even in the games they won they have poor performance.

Inter Milan have had problems in their line of attack since this season has just started. they are good at making chances but they are terrible at finishing. Inter Milan's defeat by Monza was very unexpected. because I didn't think that Monza would be the winner in that match. and This is a pretty embarrassing result for Inter Milan.

The defeat was indeed surprising, the attacks built by Inter Milan could not penetrate the goal which would have made them score goals. Inter Milan had to experience 5 matches with negative results, of which 4 matches were lost and 1 match ended in a draw. It's not good at all for a team of their size with a streak of negative results at the end of the season.

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I didn't understand that Inter will lose the match in today's Inter vs Monza match of the Italian League. I thought that Inter is ahead in the points table, so maybe Inter will win the match. But the players of Inter team could not score any goals in the match. Monza showed an amazing performance. Both teams played very well in the early part of the game but Monza took the lead with 1 goal in the 78th minute. After that neither team managed to score another goal. In the end Monza won by 1 goal.

The reason why Monza can beat Inter Milan is not just because Monza had a good performance against this team but the main reason for this result was the poor performance of Inter Milan they had a good time for just a few weeks when they were in the second place of the table but recently they have an unstable situation and even in the games they won they have poor performance.

Inter Milan have had problems in their line of attack since this season has just started. they are good at making chances but they are terrible at finishing. Inter Milan's defeat by Monza was very unexpected. because I didn't think that Monza would be the winner in that match. and This is a pretty embarrassing result for Inter Milan.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on April 18, 2023, 07:21:54 AM

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That's really sad to see Juventus's position on the table in danger because of Bologna and Fiorentina while both of these teams are weaker than Juventus usually, we saw Juventus at the top of the table while Bologna was in the middle of the table and Fiorentina near to top but in this season because of the 15 points penalty Juventus can lose it position to these two.

Juventus' situation is very sad this season. because if they don't get a 15-point deduction penalty then Juventus will be in 2nd place in the standings comfortably. but this season Juventus had to fight back after losing 15 points. but what impresses me about Juventus is that their players remain highly motivated this season even though they have had many problems from outside and within the club itself. I think next season Juventus can shine even more.

There are reasons, of course, there are consequences, and of course, the deduction of Juventus points is also not without cause, because they made a mistake and actually this deduction is a fairly light punishment in my opinion.
Things like that have passed now and like it or not now they have to try to get out of it no matter what happened before, they have to keep getting up and winning the remaining matches to come so they can still compete in a more prestigious league the next season.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 18, 2023, 06:51:26 AM

That's really sad to see Juventus's position on the table in danger because of Bologna and Fiorentina while both of these teams are weaker than Juventus usually, we saw Juventus at the top of the table while Bologna was in the middle of the table and Fiorentina near to top but in this season because of the 15 points penalty Juventus can lose it position to these two.

Juventus' situation is very sad this season. because if they don't get a 15-point deduction penalty then Juventus will be in 2nd place in the standings comfortably. but this season Juventus had to fight back after losing 15 points. but what impresses me about Juventus is that their players remain highly motivated this season even though they have had many problems from outside and within the club itself. I think next season Juventus can shine even more.

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If Atalanta manage to win against Fiorentina today then this is going to be really bad for Juventus. Because the gap between in the standings will be 7 points and it will be much more difficult for Juventus to keep up for a spot in the Europa Conference League. I might understand the loss against Lazio a little despite that bad performance but Juventus shouldn't have played that much bad against Sassuolo which led to another loss. They just gave many chances to Atalanta to get away from them more.

However right now Fiorentina look like the better playing side against Atalanta. If they increase the level of pressure in the second half then they can manage to turn the match around. But actually Fiorentina don't have much goal left for this season so I still doubt that possible comeback. But who knows maybe they can do this anyway thanks to their amazing form in the recent times.

Fiorentina dominated the match and they even had more chances than Atalanta, but it was the visitors, Atalanta, who could score. If the game goes like the first half, I think Fiorentina will be able to equalize. On the other hand, Atalanta must improve their performance in the second half, they must be able to come up with a fresher strategy, and making several substitutions seems to be a good choice to make them improve in the second half later. The coach must be able to bring out his ability to read the game.

Now the score has changed again after Fiorentina leveled the score even from the penalty box.
Now the minutes have entered a crucial time and of course this is a little bad for Atalanta because they have to focus more, especially since the pressure on Fiorentina is still very large and their dominance in this match is quite strong.
I do not rule out the possibility that this will still be a draw, especially with the discipline of Atalanta's players in defense and the condition of Fiorentina, who are having a little difficulty in finishing.

This is exactly what I said at halftime because seeing Atalanta's condition, which was not going well in terms of the scheme implemented, this made it a little difficult for them to continue to defend again and again.
Even though in the end Fiorentina could only score goals from penalty kicks, this really happened when they were in a really depressed condition.
1 point is still very good for them, with the condition that several big clubs like Juventus, who are below them and Inter and Milan, who are above them, have not received full points this week.

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Quote from: W Jr. on April 18, 2023, 02:37:40 AM

Atalanta played very badly. I'm afraid they will lose their place to Juventus. They have to be in the top 6 to go to the European cups and they don't seem to be aware of it. They could not show any presence against Fiorentina. They did not draw a team image that deserved one of the top 6 places. Fiorentina deserved the win but had to leave the field with only a draw.

it is very likely
although I am an Atalanta fan, I discovered that this season (according to the numbers) has been really bad
it doesn't matter, we'll do it again next year, but you have to learn from your mistakes (otherwise it makes no sense)

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Atalanta played very badly. I'm afraid they will lose their place to Juventus. They have to be in the top 6 to go to the European cups and they don't seem to be aware of it. They could not show any presence against Fiorentina. They did not draw a team image that deserved one of the top 6 places. Fiorentina deserved the win but had to leave the field with only a draw.

It looks like it will be a lot of pressure on Atalanta in the coming weeks because Atalanta failed to play well in the last two matches. This also applies to Juventus because they lost points in the last two matches.

Between these two teams, there are 5 points adrift with the remaining 8 matches remaining, I think that is enough time for Juventus to shift Atalanta's ranking in the upcoming matches.

Bologna and Fiorentina are also a serious threat to Juventus because the three of them have close points. If either of them fails to get a positive result this week I think these teams will switch places next week.

That's really sad to see Juventus's position on the table in danger because of Bologna and Fiorentina while both of these teams are weaker than Juventus usually, we saw Juventus at the top of the table while Bologna was in the middle of the table and Fiorentina near to top but in this season because of the 15 points penalty Juventus can lose it position to these two.

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Quote from: W Jr. on April 18, 2023, 02:37:40 AM

Atalanta played very badly. I'm afraid they will lose their place to Juventus. They have to be in the top 6 to go to the European cups and they don't seem to be aware of it. They could not show any presence against Fiorentina. They did not draw a team image that deserved one of the top 6 places. Fiorentina deserved the win but had to leave the field with only a draw.

It looks like it will be a lot of pressure on Atalanta in the coming weeks because Atalanta failed to play well in the last two matches. This also applies to Juventus because they lost points in the last two matches.

Between these two teams, there are 5 points adrift with the remaining 8 matches remaining, I think that is enough time for Juventus to shift Atalanta's ranking in the upcoming matches.

Bologna and Fiorentina are also a serious threat to Juventus because the three of them have close points. If either of them fails to get a positive result this week I think these teams will switch places next week.

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As always I said here:

Source: https://twitter.com/InArteMatt/status/1648233665271324675

Now they are trying to do the same thing with the -15 points.

It will be interesting this week.

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The first half looked likely to be won by Atalanta even though Fiorentina had the upper hand in terms of possession and their chances were thwarted when Atalanta counterattacked and capitalized on the momentum when Joakim Mæhle scored.
Now time is running out even though at the moment it seems that Fiorentina are increasingly eager to equalize and the match is still very exciting to watch.

Fiorentina managed to equalize the score in the 56th minute through penalty yeah that's not worse than having to lose all the points
Fiorentina made a lot of shots and on target unfortunately only one goal was successful even though they should at least be able to score 2-3 goals based on the shots.

I was thinking that Atalanta will be able to widen their space with Juvebtus after the unexpected lose game from Juv at Del tricolore. Atalanta today did not display their best game. They Seemed to have needed a draw in today's game cuz from first half till the end of the second half they only succeeded in making just one on target attempt while Fiorentina kept on pressing them in every angle. I was thinking Fiorentina will be able to net a second goal before the end of the game but it was quite unlucky for them

Atalanta played very badly. I'm afraid they will lose their place to Juventus. They have to be in the top 6 to go to the European cups and they don't seem to be aware of it. They could not show any presence against Fiorentina. They did not draw a team image that deserved one of the top 6 places. Fiorentina deserved the win but had to leave the field with only a draw.

Atalanta has been playing like this from quite some games now and their recent results suggest that they really will lose the ability to take part in an European competition for next year with such performances.Yesterday I must say they were very lucky as Fiorentina hit 21 times on target and this shows how weak Atalanta recently is,they have been losing also on home soil to Bologna in the game before this so I think they should be happy with the point they got from yesterday night.

Fiorentina on the other hand is in a really good form and they will most likely be in the final in Europa Conference League against West Ham most probably as it stands now there so I would love for them to win such a cup.

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Napoli	75
Lazio	61
Roma	56
Milan	53
Inter	51
Atalanta	48
Juve	44
Bologna	44
Fiorentina	41
Sassuolo	40
Torino	39
Udinese	39
Monza	38
Empoli	32
Salernitana	30
Lecce	28
Spezia	26
Verona	23
Cremonese	19
Sampdoria	16

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The first half looked likely to be won by Atalanta even though Fiorentina had the upper hand in terms of possession and their chances were thwarted when Atalanta counterattacked and capitalized on the momentum when Joakim Mæhle scored.
Now time is running out even though at the moment it seems that Fiorentina are increasingly eager to equalize and the match is still very exciting to watch.

Fiorentina managed to equalize the score in the 56th minute through penalty yeah that's not worse than having to lose all the points
Fiorentina made a lot of shots and on target unfortunately only one goal was successful even though they should at least be able to score 2-3 goals based on the shots.

I was thinking that Atalanta will be able to widen their space with Juvebtus after the unexpected lose game from Juv at Del tricolore. Atalanta today did not display their best game. They Seemed to have needed a draw in today's game cuz from first half till the end of the second half they only succeeded in making just one on target attempt while Fiorentina kept on pressing them in every angle. I was thinking Fiorentina will be able to net a second goal before the end of the game but it was quite unlucky for them

Atalanta played very badly. I'm afraid they will lose their place to Juventus. They have to be in the top 6 to go to the European cups and they don't seem to be aware of it. They could not show any presence against Fiorentina. They did not draw a team image that deserved one of the top 6 places. Fiorentina deserved the win but had to leave the field with only a draw.

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Quote from: Prince Malik on April 17, 2023, 11:21:21 PM

That's right, inter Milan team seems unfocused on the serie a after their championship league success but this is surely a big mistake, this team need to focus on the serie A to insure a place in the champoins league next season, the actual situation on the standings not allow them to make lose in such kind of matches

Intermilan is declining so hard after UCL. It was still consistently losing the match. Intermilan is having a problem with the attacking line. Intermilan's attackers have no ability to create proper finishing. Lukaku is nothing right now. This gonna be a problem for intermilan.
The problem is there's no guarantee if intermilan will be winning UCL. That being said if the position of intermilan in serie a became even so bad. It's going down even further than before.

Intermilan may have good aggregates compared with benfica but if intermilan keeps performing like when it was getting lose streak and im sure that benfica will able to change the situation again. Intermilan is not so safe this time.
Inter had no choice other than winning the rest of matches to take 1 ticket to the UCL next season.

I don't favor in italian club winning UCL this season. It seems like that EPL and spanish clubs are leading the way right now.

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