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Keep in mind Juventus may have 15 more points. The fight for the 2-3-4th slot is very insane.

the match between juventus vs lazio was extraordinary (actually run with the same power), too bad juventus lost in this match, I support them in my bet. with this win, lazio is getting stronger in 2nd place in the serie a standings with 58 points (5 points difference with roma). while juventus is in 7th position in the standings with 44 points, and it has passed the target set by allegri until the end of the season, when juventus gets a point deduction.

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Juventus lost 2-1 against Lazio. I don't like the performance of Juventus in this match. In the last few matches, I have seen that Juventus' attacking performance has slowed down a bit. ...

Lazio are in very good shape and their form is very consistent. Especially in the last few matches, they have always been able to provide optimal results. In this match against Juventus, Lazio were able to beat Juventus with a score of 2 - 1. But it cannot be denied that this match was very interesting. Juventus actually struggled really well, unfortunately they also lost more opportunities to score goals. And ended in defeat, 1 goal difference.

This defeat made Juventus again lose the opportunity to continue to climb to the top. Yes, the result of that match will certainly be regretted by Allegri because it will be increasingly difficult for him to bring the Old Lady to finish in the top four. I think another route to win tickets to the champions league is also very difficult.

Meanwhile for Lazio this important victory made them even more comfortable in second place, and of course their hopes of qualifying for the champions league next season are very open. For Lazio this is the first victory over Juventus for 4 years. Prior to this, the Biancoceleste had never won in 7 consecutive meetings against their rivals, with the last victory coming in the Italian Super Cup, 2019 ago.

But in this match they also lost quite honorably because regardless of anything they tried their best. Even though they are a bit sluggish, but there is still quite a long time because there are still around 9 more matches for them and now the gap is still the same so I think things like this can still be maximized by them regardless of the conditions of defeat in this match.
Their schedule, which is still a bit tight, will also be a bit of a hindrance in this regard, especially considering the actual conditions of the opponents, there are still some that could become a problem, such as when facing Napoli, Milan and two unpredictable clubs such as Atalanta and Bologna.

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This defeat made Juventus again lose the opportunity to continue to climb to the top. Yes, the result of that match will certainly be regretted by Allegri because it will be increasingly difficult for him to bring the Old Lady to finish in the top four. I think another route to win tickets to the champions league is also very difficult.

yes that's correct. even though they have started crawling again to enter at least the top 6 in Serie A after losing a lot of points as punishment at that time. But fortunately Atalanta also lost, so their points are still not far from before. There is still a chance for a few more matches in the future. Even though it may be difficult but not impossible to be at least in 6th place, as long as you want to play consistently well and also always be optimal in every match to win.

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José Mourinho really supports the team he supports, so when Roma managed to score a goal, José Mourinho immediately used a very strong defensive strategy that made it difficult for Torino to reply to the goals that had been won by Roma. To survive in the top three at the top of the standings, Roma still has to keep fighting to secure their position because, in the future, the opponents that it will face will be difficult to beat.

Even though the match between Torino vs Roma became very boring after Roma managed to score a quick penalty goal in the 8th minute, at least Rome managed to secure the top 3 positions in the Serie A standings. only 8 matches left in the future, Roma must fight hard to maintain their position so they can get a ticket to the champions league next season.

I don't think there's anything new about changing the style of play to be more defensive when the team is already ahead with a quick goal. Because this method is also often used by Mourinho, but AS Roma's luck in this match is because Torino does not have good ability to score goals. So that the defensive strategy implemented by AS Roma in this match can work well.

Because sometimes, when Mourinho implements a strategy like this, the result is that Mourinho sometimes gets blunders from this method. Because if the opponent is a top team, then it is very possible for that team to make good use of it successfully to score a goal back. But yes, congrats to AS Roma, because it looks like at this moment AS Roma has a good chance to finish in the top four, considering that Inter continues to get bad results.

Seeing the actual opportunities created by the two teams in this match, I still feel that both of them were quite bad at finishing, although in this match, of course, Rome benefited because they scored a quick goal from the Dybala penalty in the first 10 minutes.
But after that, I didn't even see anything interesting in this match.

They were many missed opportunities and both team didn't offer their best performance. As for Roma, I will say there is a little bit of fatigued players and this really contributed to their poor performance. the early goal damped Torino'a momentum and If not for the early penalty goal I don't think Roma would have been lucky enough to get away with a raw. They were expected to show a better performance in the second half but it was still below expectations while Torino kept dominating in possession. I quest Mourinho was satisfied with the result after all he is still bent on using a defensive style of play.

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Keep in mind Juventus may have 15 more points. The fight for the 2-3-4th slot is very insane.

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Inter are still maintaining their horrible form in the Serie A. After losing three weeks in a row I thought they would be able to finish this bad series by defeating Salernitana. But this time they got a draw by not being able to use their advantage of being ahead until the final whistle. It was a big risk and mistake for Inter to keep the score at 1-0 for that long. They actually scored very early and captured a good advantage.

But somehow they couldn't go for more goals. Their main problem recently is with their scoring productivity. They just couldn't score more than one goal in each one of these matches. They weren't a team like this before. But these days there is something going really wrong with them. Maybe they don't have a title chance but it is still very important to finish the season in top four.

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Roma is in the third position of the table right now. Yes, it is true that they have a lot of competition around them. But I am feeling quite positive about Roma being able to finish in the top four. José Mourinho is, of course, not the best tactical coach there is right now. But as long as he gets the job done, I don’t think anyone is going to complain.

Roma played quite well in the last 2 matches. They won against Torino and Sampdoria. But in the next 3 matches, Roma will play against strong teams. They will play against Udinese, Atalanta, and AC Milan. If Roma can get full points in these matches, I agree that they look like to end the season in the top 4. But I think there is a big chance that they will lose points in the next 3 matches.

Sure, Mourinho is a very experienced coach and he knows well how to choose proper tactics for Roma. But there are many surprises in Serie A matches during this season. It is a bit difficult to predict the next matches, especially for big matches.

Paulo Dybala has a personal goal scoring streek against Torino
The goal helped put Mourinho and his side ahead. They defended well no lies
They move ahead to Netherland to face Feyeenord who host them at home for the clash in the Europa League

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In fact Roma can't be considered as a very consistent team lately. But at least they were able to benefit from the opportunity they got for the third place in the league table.

However it wasn't an easy win against Torino at the same time. Because Roma couldn't open the goal difference more and this encouraged their opponent to try their best for an equalizer. Roma must be thankful that Torino weren't having a good day. Roma need to strengthen their defensive side a little more to be better. They will really need it to keep their presence in top 4. If they finish here they won't need to win the Europa League title to join the Champions League also. I wonder whether Mourinho would still think of signing for another big team no matter the result of the season.

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Roma is in the third position of the table right now. Yes, it is true that they have a lot of competition around them. But I am feeling quite positive about Roma being able to finish in the top four. José Mourinho is, of course, not the best tactical coach there is right now. But as long as he gets the job done, I don’t think anyone is going to complain.

Roma played quite well in the last 2 matches. They won against Torino and Sampdoria. But in the next 3 matches, Roma will play against strong teams. They will play against Udinese, Atalanta, and AC Milan. If Roma can get full points in these matches, I agree that they look like to end the season in the top 4. But I think there is a big chance that they will lose points in the next 3 matches.

Sure, Mourinho is a very experienced coach and he knows well how to choose proper tactics for Roma. But there are many surprises in Serie A matches during this season. It is a bit difficult to predict the next matches, especially for big matches.

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José Mourinho really supports the team he supports, so when Roma managed to score a goal, José Mourinho immediately used a very strong defensive strategy that made it difficult for Torino to reply to the goals that had been won by Roma. To survive in the top three at the top of the standings, Roma still has to keep fighting to secure their position because, in the future, the opponents that it will face will be difficult to beat.

Even though the match between Torino vs Roma became very boring after Roma managed to score a quick penalty goal in the 8th minute, at least Rome managed to secure the top 3 positions in the Serie A standings. only 8 matches left in the future, Roma must fight hard to maintain their position so they can get a ticket to the champions league next season.

I don't think there's anything new about changing the style of play to be more defensive when the team is already ahead with a quick goal. Because this method is also often used by Mourinho, but AS Roma's luck in this match is because Torino does not have good ability to score goals. So that the defensive strategy implemented by AS Roma in this match can work well.

Because sometimes, when Mourinho implements a strategy like this, the result is that Mourinho sometimes gets blunders from this method. Because if the opponent is a top team, then it is very possible for that team to make good use of it successfully to score a goal back. But yes, congrats to AS Roma, because it looks like at this moment AS Roma has a good chance to finish in the top four, considering that Inter continues to get bad results.

Seeing the actual opportunities created by the two teams in this match, I still feel that both of them were quite bad at finishing, although in this match, of course, Rome benefited because they scored a quick goal from the Dybala penalty in the first 10 minutes.
But after that I didn't even see anything interesting in this match.

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Quote from: harapan on April 09, 2023, 01:25:20 PM

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José Mourinho really supports the team he supports, so when Roma managed to score a goal, José Mourinho immediately used a very strong defensive strategy that made it difficult for Torino to reply to the goals that had been won by Roma. To survive in the top three at the top of the standings, Roma still has to keep fighting to secure their position because, in the future, the opponents that it will face will be difficult to beat.

I don't think Roma will make it to the champions league, despite the fact that they're on third position on the table right now. They're too conservative with their approach to football . Mourinho is not a very technical coach, he sticks to the basics and sometimes it works while sometimes it doesn't. Roma still has to play Inter, Atalanta, Milan. These are teams that a defensive approach won't work on except on few occasions. Roma has very attacking minded players and it affects these players when they can't attack as they would like to.

Roma is in the third position of the table right now. Yes, it is true that they have a lot of competition around them. But I am feeling quite positive about Roma being able to finish in the top four. José Mourinho is, of course, not the best tactical coach there is right now. But as long as he gets the job done, I don’t think anyone is going to complain.

However, it is true that Roma will face a lot of really hard competition in the upcoming matches. It is going to be really hard for them to hold on to that third position or even finish in the top four. against those opponents.

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Truthfully Juventus couldn't play decently against Lazio. There was a full domination by Lazio in the first half for example. I don't even remember Juventus having dangerous attacks in the same half. But somehow they managed to score the equalizing goal in the last minutes of it. It was a lucky goal as well after that cross by the way. In the second half Juventus still struggled to be more effective for some time.

This helped Lazio get ahead once again. Some time later Lazio seemed like they were just trying to secure their score advantage until the end of the match. They became successful about that and won the match. I believe Lazio deserved to win this one definitely after that high effort. I don't know why but Juventus seemed quite vulnerable despite their good form recently.

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Quote from: harapan on April 09, 2023, 01:25:20 PM

I don't think Roma will make it to the champions league, despite the fact that they're on third position on the table right now. They're too conservative with their approach to football . Mourinho is not a very technical coach, he sticks to the basics and sometimes it works while sometimes it doesn't. Roma still has to play Inter, Atalanta, Milan. These are teams that a defensive approach won't work on except on few occasions. Roma has very attacking minded players and it affects these players when they can't attack as they would like to.

AS Roma has weaknesses when facing with big teams and has the chance to fail to get full points, agree with you about AS Roma opportunity with Champion League spot standing in this season because eight matches left have to face with Atalanta, Milan and Inter Milan.
Even though they are currently in third place, Roma's chances of staying in the top 4 seem difficult with few points difference from Milan and Inter. If Roma can get full points against Milan and Inter have chance exist and finish on top fourth standing position and automatically will get Champion League ticket for next season after absent several years.

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Today Roma won the Torino Roma clash. First of all, I have to say that there were not many positions in the match. the two teams had only 2 shots in the whole match. One of them was Dybala's penalty shot. Thus, Roma won in the week when Milan lost points and put themselves on top of the table. There is a very tight race at the top. It is very difficult to predict who will finish in the top four as it changes constantly.

Dybala has been successfully helping roma to win the match against torino evne though roma was winning the match through penalty. it's good enough to see that roma was able to play so well until the end of game. Roma and torino were equal at this moment. I can see it from the statistic of match between both. Roma is having less ball possession compared with torino but roma was also playing defensively against torino. Torino has been trying so hard to force the match to be draw but it was failed.

The match is boring but seeing roma was able winning against torino makes me feel so happy. Roma is still standing at the third place position in serie a. Roma needs consistently win the upcoming game.
Roma should not miss this significant chance when their opponents, Duo Milan have had several bad outcomes.

Jose mourinho is able transforming roma into a better club.

When you look at that stats, you see that Roma didn't had the ball much, and they didn't shoot much, just one shot on goal, and one goal from penalty as well. When you combine all those facts, it looks like they didn't play that well at all, and they actually could have played much better in the long run.

But, when you start to watch the game itself, you realize that Roma actually played very well, they defended after the goal and played such a Mourinho style of game, where they did not pass much or hold the ball much but didn't allow Torino to even have a chance neither, it wasn't about playing for them, it was about not making the other side play, and that was done so well that they won the game even after not scoring for 82+ minutes, not even having a proper shot.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on April 09, 2023, 02:13:10 PM

Reportedly, Atalanta suffered a deserved defeat against Bologna. Statistics such as ball possession and shots on goal do not always say everything, nor do the number of corners mean much. In percentage terms, the chance that you will be able to score a goal from a corner is also quite small. But this Atalanta no longer has the magic of a few seasons ago, when they once finished 2nd in the league and almost reached the semi-finals of the CL. I don't know where it will go in the league, but qualifying for the CL will be a very difficult story in this way.

The problem is a little different when indeed they always fail to convert opportunities into goals.
Actually they could have been like before but indeed their productivity has clearly decreased compared to the previous few seasons and their breakdown last season still cannot be repaired now, even though at the start of the season they were very good but for now it is clear that their difference is due to poor consistency and goal productivity .

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Incredible, Sarri and Milinkovic Savic both said it was a fault for the goal they scored.
Missing also a penalty for Juventus.

The mafia of Serie A is going on.

There might be some discrepancies but I don't see that in a big way. What is clear is that this victory is a pretty good result for Lazio, they are able to maintain a winning trend and for Juventus their winning streak in the league must end in that match. But for sure this is quite surprising, moreover we as football viewers are quite surprised by Juventus' defeat. I think we will still see Juventus struggle next week with better results.

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Reportedly, Atalanta suffered a deserved defeat against Bologna. Statistics such as ball possession and shots on goal do not always say everything, nor do the number of corners mean much. In percentage terms, the chance that you will be able to score a goal from a corner is also quite small. But this Atalanta no longer has the magic of a few seasons ago, when they once finished 2nd in the league and almost reached the semi-finals of the CL. I don't know where it will go in the league, but qualifying for the CL will be a very difficult story in this way.

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For Mourinho, he doesn't care about boring games and by only scoring one goal, he only needs the end result for his team to win. Victory over Torino and managing to climb to third place is something that Romanisti has been really looking forward to. Now Mourinho only needs to maintain his momentum in the top four of the standings and continue to appear consistent in the next match. Roma's achievements this week were also due to the lack of results achieved by Milan, Inter and Atalanta.

Yes, Mourinho gives the result and everything else is secondary. If Roma finish in the top 4 this season and get a ticket to the Champions League, then it will be necessary to admit that Mourinho has a second very successful season in a row.
Many managers have had success with the top clubs, but could not achieve anything with the middle clubs, Mourinho regularly proves that he is good everywhere.
I wonder if he will stay in Serie A at the end of the season - there have been a lot of rumors lately about options for where he could go, including offers from sheiks with crazy amounts of money.

Atalanta team lost yesterday's match 2-0. But I personally thought the Atalanta match would guarantee victory. The team's defense and attack did not perform very well due to which the opposition managed to score two goals with great opportunities.

Me too I thought Atalanta will win the match yesterday, Atalanta Lost the match with 2:0 Atalanta can not even played ball no attacking performance, no defensive performance, attacking performance zero defensive performance zero
Atalanta Bologna
6 short on target 6
49 possession 51
Atalanta performance yesterday was very poor, Atalanta don't even have a chance to score a goal, Atalanta don't even see one goal, it's a disgrace infact it's very disappointed that Atalanta can't defeat Bologna in their home, give Bologna the victory, no attempt.Bolagna see their first goal in forty-nine minutes and the second goal in eighty-six minutes.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on April 09, 2023, 07:20:02 AM

José Mourinho really supports the team he supports, so when Roma managed to score a goal, José Mourinho immediately used a very strong defensive strategy that made it difficult for Torino to reply to the goals that had been won by Roma. To survive in the top three at the top of the standings, Roma still has to keep fighting to secure their position because, in the future, the opponents that it will face will be difficult to beat.

I don't think Roma will make it to the champions league, despite the fact that they're on third position on the table right now. They're too conservative with their approach to football . Mourinho is not a very technical coach, he sticks to the basics and sometimes it works while sometimes it doesn't. Roma still has to play Inter, Atalanta, Milan. These are teams that a defensive approach won't work on except on few occasions. Roma has very attacking minded players and it affects these players when they can't attack as they would like to.

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Lazio did play very extraordinary in the match against Juventus. but Juventus also had an equally good game but in that match the shooting accuracy of the Juventus players was a little bad. so there are many opportunities that cannot be utilized properly. but Lazio throughout the match their attack line continued to make attacks with shooting accuracy which was also very impressive. The bottom line is that this is a very fierce and interesting match. I really enjoyed this fight.

For me the defeat to Juventus is not surprising, it's because Lazio's performance is currently doing well.
Lazio is unbeaten in their last 6 matches in Serie A, this certainly makes the team's confidence very much expected. Lazio certainly really hopes to qualify for the Champions League next season and must avoid defeat and dropping points in important matches.

The win over Juventus was very good, it means that Maurizio Sarri's plan is really effective at home. Currently Lazio has managed to collect 58 points from 29 matches, and they are 5 points ahead of Roma and 6 points from Milan.

Lazio really played very well in this match. They never, well almost never stopped attacking. And they also never let their guard down. I have to say in this match Juventus was not as good as Lazio. Lazio has played really attacking football.

But at the same time, I have to say both of the goals that have been scored by Lazio in this match happened because Juventus made some mistakes in defense. In almost both of the times one player in that far post was free. If Juventus had defended better, they might have got one point from this match.

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