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Quote from: len01 on November 25, 2024, 12:05:17 PM

Is there anyone betting on this match? It may not be that interesting but for me it will be very profitable if we can have the right option. In the Empoli vs Udinese match, Udinese is actually the favorite, but I choose to pick up the surprise that will happen.

You made the perfect decision for that match but unfortunately it ended in a draw. Sorry for your loss.

Empoli could have won that game from the first half but as usual their game management sucks so bad. They allowed Udinese to dominate the game and outclassed them especially in the second half and invite them back to the game. Empoli is too defensive that they always forget about scoring goals to win a game and not by playing in their own half.

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 26, 2024, 01:52:10 AM

He just took over two other managers for the season, he is the third manager of the season for Roma, and he hasn't made any transfers neither, he is just making due with whatever he is given, and that's not always a good thing, most of the time people are quite unhappy with that. So, we could assume that this could be very bad for many people and I understand why the result would be terrible for everyone as well. This isn't some magic he could do, there is no way that he can go there and on day one make them all much better, that's just not how it works at all.

This season only passed less than a half of it and Roma already changed their coach position two times, Claudio Ranieri is their third coach in this season. Any club with many changes in a coach position within a season, actually are in a big crisis and Roma currently have big troubles. It is really hard to believe that they changed too quickly only after the summer, and it's more surprising because in summer transfer season, they got many players in. In theory these players in can help them to increase their quality and competitiveness but practically they fell down considerably and unexplainably.

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Most importantly, he hasn't even seen the winter transfer break yet, lets see what he is willing to do or even Roma is willing to do. If they can get some good players then we could see them get better. At the very worst case scenario, they will just stay at Serie A, not going to relegate and they are not going to end up with any European competition next season and just try again all over.

After spending a lot of money, which they refused to give Jose Mourinho in his two and a half season, I believe that Roma will not spend considerable budget for player transfers in the winter transfer market. If they can loan some players, they will do it, but purchasing new players sounds impossible.

Ranieri will have to make all of his plans to improve Roma and rescue them with players he has now.

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Even Claudio Ranieri admitted it, he has tried to implement his strategy and change the game in the second-half time. But, there is a lot of work to do and to fix in the club. He is aware of that and it will not be easy to change it so quickly in his game.

Source: Claudio Ranieri

He had very limited time to change Roma before this big match with Napoli. It would be easier for Ranieri if the opponent is not Napoli, which leads Serie A in recent weeks and since the season beginning already shown their good performances.

Ranieri can help Roma to improve, get more points in coming matches when he and Roma players understand each other better. This win helps Napoli to secure their first position, but with only 1 point more than four clubs behind, Atalanta, Inter Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio. At the sixth position, Juventus has 25 points, and they are only 4 points behind Napoli. Serie A top positions are very close with each other and the league looks every interesting for Scudetto competition.

He just took over two other managers for the season, he is the third manager of the season for Roma, and he hasn't made any transfers neither, he is just making due with whatever he is given, and that's not always a good thing, most of the time people are quite unhappy with that. So, we could assume that this could be very bad for many people and I understand why the result would be terrible for everyone as well. This isn't some magic he could do, there is no way that he can go there and on day one make them all much better, that's just not how it works at all.

Most importantly, he hasn't even seen the winter transfer break yet, lets see what he is willing to do or even Roma is willing to do. If they can get some good players then we could see them get better. At the very worst case scenario, they will just stay at Serie A, not going to relegate and they are not going to end up with any European competition next season and just try again all over.

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Quote from: UchihaSarada on November 25, 2024, 10:39:35 PM

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Roma needs to realize they need a whole rebuilding period, and for that to mean something they need to sell most of their players and get better ones. They do not have the economy for it, but they should be looking for ways, like maybe go with Napoli method, get good players from lower level leagues, and sell them higher to better clubs when they play better.

They realized that they have to sacrifice this season, to rebuild their squad, and prepare for a next season. Hiring Ranieri, who is famous as a coach who can fix many issues for his clubs, and has his nickname as The Tinkerman is a very good decision from Roma. They got a defeat in a first match with Ranieri but I believe that Claudio can help them to improve and have an acceptable ending in this season.

Now Roma must try bigger, not only about the performance issue but as much as possible they try to convince the fans to be a little more patient in doing the process for this season.
The beginning of the season did not go according to expectations and the previous change of coach was also proven to be a wrong thing that makes us know that for now with the previous De Rossi replacement policy it actually has an impact on worse performance.

Ranieri is indeed a fairly good coach in terms of experience, but when the trust given is lacking then this could also be a problem in the end so patience is an important factor in this case for Roma to be able to develop and improve themselves to be better not like the beginning of this season.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 25, 2024, 07:14:02 PM

I didn't expect just 1-0 anyhow, I thought Napoli would win much easier, but this isn't some great effort by Roma as well, just because they have Ranieri now and lost only 1-0 doesn't mean that Roma will do fine, we can still see how Roma is doing badly by understanding it doesn't matter if it was a 1-0 loss or a 5-0 loss, it is still zero points for the game.

Roma did bring more challenge to Napoli than many people thought they can do before this match. Napoli won it as predicted by many people but there are moments in this match, they could be equalized by Roma and faced with risk of losing 2 points. In a long season and a league title race, 3 points for each match is most important, even it is a minimal win with only one goal. A club don't need many beauty big wins to win Scudetto, but actually need as many wins as possible in a long season.

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Roma needs to realize they need a whole rebuilding period, and for that to mean something they need to sell most of their players and get better ones. They do not have the economy for it, but they should be looking for ways, like maybe go with Napoli method, get good players from lower level leagues, and sell them higher to better clubs when they play better.

They realized that they have to sacrifice this season, to rebuild their squad, and prepare for a next season. Hiring Ranieri, who is famous as a coach who can fix many issues for his clubs, and has his nickname as The Tinkerman is a very good decision from Roma. They got a defeat in a first match with Ranieri but I believe that Claudio can help them to improve and have an acceptable ending in this season.

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Ranieri first match as Roma coach did not go well after the defeat to Napoli, but I think in that match there was a significant improvement in Roma performance and also the game although they could not avoid defeat, Roma who are currently managed by Ranieri I think have a brighter prospect to rise than currently coached by Ivan Jurig previously, Facing Napoli who are in good form of course requires a team to have better squad depth, but Roma is still able to keep up with Napoli's game in the match even though their squad is not better than Napoli currently has, defeat is still a defeat but behind it all, of course Ranieri must be able to gain experience to improve his squad later when facing the next match in Serie A or in the UEL.

There is a possibility of a move towards a better direction since Ranieri took charge, this assumption is reinforced by Roma's improved performance compared to the previous coach. Although Ranieri could not avoid defeat, from a more realistic point of view the defeat was a natural thing because Napoli were in their best form, while Roma still needed a recovery phase since slumping in the Ivan Juric era. Napoli have a mature squad depth, they also play very solidly and every player has good chemistry. Roma must immediately get out of the slump because currently they have only been able to win 13 points from 13 matches, 3 points ahead of the Relegation Zone.

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I didn't expect just 1-0 anyhow, I thought Napoli would win much easier, but this isn't some great effort by Roma as well, just because they have Ranieri now and lost only 1-0 doesn't mean that Roma will do fine, we can still see how Roma is doing badly by understanding it doesn't matter if it was a 1-0 loss or a 5-0 loss, it is still zero points for the game.

Roma needs to realize they need a whole rebuilding period, and for that to mean something they need to sell most of their players and get better ones. They do not have the economy for it, but they should be looking for ways, like maybe go with Napoli method, get good players from lower level leagues, and sell them higher to better clubs when they play better.

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It is not only tough for Bologna to beat Lazio, it is essentially tough for any team especially when they play at home. They are doing very well for weeks now, concede hardly any goals and they score in the right moments to kill off their opponents. This was a pretty safe bet and Bologna isn't quite on the same level they used to be last season.

Thiago Motta's departure from Bologna had a big impact on Bologna's performance. Bologna is currently weak and not as good as last season. So it is understandable if they suffer a crushing defeat when facing Lazio, who are always consistent every season. It's just that the score 3-0 was really beyond my expectations. In this match, I at least hope that Bologna can also score 1 goal. But Lazio was really solid and didn't let their opponents score a single goal. Another match that met my expectations was Napoli's victory over AS Roma.

I am not so convinced that the departure of a coach can ever lead to a team crashing so much. A coach has an impact and there is no doubt about that. As much as there are good and bad players, as much there are good and bad coaches. But the players still play the game and when Spalletti left Napoli, that was neither the whole explanation for them playing a bad season right afterwards. That suggests too much dependency on the coach in my humble opinion.

Marco Maroni, the coach of Lazio Roma, has never won anything as a coach and only some minor things in his career as a player. It was definitely not much that he took home in his career and yet he and Lazio seem to be onto something. It was the same with a coach like Xabi Alonso who didn't have much experience and yet it played out. But giving all the defeats to the coach and all the wins to the coach is wrong. As I said they have an impact, but it can't be so much that a shining team turns into a zombie from one season to the next.

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Quote from: len01 on November 25, 2024, 12:05:17 PM

Is there anyone betting on this match? It may not be that interesting but for me it will be very profitable if we can have the right option. In the Empoli vs Udinese match, Udinese is actually the favorite, but I choose to pick up the surprise that will happen.

nothing special with the match. the final result is a draw, Empoli 1 vs 1 Udinese. Even though Udinese had a lot of opportunities to attack, but yes, their attacks were not very effective, many wasted opportunities. The results of the matches between the two in the last 5 matches were not good enough. and their position is still in the middle team with a number of points that are only 1 apart.

This week's Serie A matchday 13 has come to an end, with the match between Venezia and Lecce closing, which was won by Lecce just now with a score of
Venezia vs Lecce: 0 vs 1

And indeed, for the top standing, the competition is getting tighter if you look at the number of points from each club. But yes, AC Milan and Bologna are still quite bad this time.

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This kind of competition makes Serie A more interesting. Napoli improved their performance compared to last season, they are currently performing better. and Inter will probably fight hard to bring down Napoli, because last season they were very dominant, even winning the trophy with a fairly large difference in points. but this season the competition seems very interesting Serie A. Napoli will be a competitor, but Inter will probably retain their trophy.

I feel you are an Inter fan, and that's why you are favouring Inter to win the league. Look at hoqe tight the point gap is and I don't expect this four teams to drop point any time soon. However, Napoli should be very careful and make sure that they win their matches, otherwise, Inter, Atalanta or fiorentina will take over the first position from them.

This will be somehow difficult for Napoli if they decline in performance. It's not yet mid season and judging too quickly that Inter will win the league is not certain for them yet.

I'm not an Inter fan, I just favor Inter.
Indeed, there are still quite a lot of matches left, and the situation may change for each team. There will be teams that are consistent with their game, and there will be teams that experience a decline in performance for whatever reason. Whether it's player injuries or other technical reasons.
But logically, if you look at the current standings and team performance, of course, you won't choose a team that is not at the top of the standings at this time. For example, of course,e you won't favor Roma to win Serie A considering their current performance, even though you might be a Roma fan.

Serie A is very competitive this season. In the last few seasons we have seen one or two teams fighting for the title. But this season the points gap between the teams at the top of the table is very small. Napoli is at the top of the table. Napoli has 29 points in 13 matches. Lazio, who are in fifth place in the table, has 28 points in 13 matches. The points gap between the teams is very small. So we can see big changes in the points table at any time.

There is still a long journey ahead. Each team will play 25 more matches. So we can see changes in the points table. It is very difficult to maintain a good performance for such a long time. This is a very difficult task for teams like Atalanta and Fiorentina. Inter Milan is an experienced team. At the same time, their squad is also very strong. For this reason, Inter Milan is still considered the favorite for the Serie A title.

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Quote from: len01 on November 25, 2024, 12:05:17 PM

In the Empoli vs Udinese match, Udinese is actually the favorite, but I choose to pick up the surprise that will happen.

Three of the last four matches between the two teams ended in a draw. I don't think we will see much attacking in the match because the priority of both teams will be to get 1 point. It is difficult to predict what the result will be in such matches because a lucky goal can decide the fate of the match.

I don't think there will be many goals in this match and I don't think either team will take risks in this match because they are 1 point apart in the league. It won't be a good match for the viewers.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 24, 2024, 06:28:58 PM

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Lucky them that Napoli was dropping points already or otherwise they would be miles behind in the table despite not losing any games. Next stop is Aston Villa for them and it is probably not going to be another draw without goals.

Yes, the gap between Milan and Juventus is quite a lot from the teams at the top. It's just that for Serie A, the competition is very tight. In fact, the points of the clubs from top 1 to 5 are only 1 point different and even exactly the same. So every match in Serie A is very influential on their next position. They must be much more vigilant with this one condition.

Source: Serie A table

Yes AC Milan so far is the biggest loser I think. They aren't any worse than the other leading teams on paper in my opinion, but well, on paper is worth nothing if they can't bring it into the game. But their performances is so volatile. They beat Real Madrid in the Bernabeu stadium and fall so far behind in the domestic league. But the funny thing is that they dropped points against teams like Cagliari and Parma. Atalanta is taking place very soon, which could very well end in another setback for them. They could be like 15 points behind the top in just a couple of weeks from now and then the season essentially has barely any value for them. It would be a lot about making it not look too worse.

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Is there anyone betting on this match? It may not be that interesting but for me it will be very profitable if we can have the right option. In the Empoli vs Udinese match, Udinese is actually the favorite, but I choose to pick up the surprise that will happen.

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Yes, the gap between Milan and Juventus is quite a lot from the teams at the top. It's just that for Serie A, the competition is very tight.

Indeed very tight as most of the top teams win their games nonstop or at least they don't lose them. Lazio has been doing amazing and so has Atalanta, Inter and Fiorentia, which is probably the biggest surprise of them all as I rather saw them further down the table.

I thought at first Lazio and Atalanta would not be as good and consistent as this until now in matchday 13, but it turned out to be wrong, and they continued their good performance in every match. Not only that, even the top scorer in Serie A turned out to be Atalanta's Mateo Retegui, with 12 goals. He is awesome. This proves that the clubs in Serie A cannot be as calm as before dominating the top standing, because if they miss 1 defeat, then their position will be immediately shifted by other clubs.

I agree because both teams aren't actually known for having long winning streaks, but this is not the case now. They both have impressive winning streaks and while teams like Juventus keep dropping points because of all the draws, Lazio and Atalanta took the lead against those other favorite teams. For the league it is great as that is what people want to see, tough competition throughout the season in a best case scenario. But I doubt that the first five will continue like this. It would be incredible, but someone will probably fall behind at some point.

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With AS Roma condition this season, Napoli should be able to take advantage of the condition to steal points because this victory will return them to the top of the Serie A standings. The 13th match is the capital that Conte needs to maximize, he managed to bring Napoli in his first season very well so AS Roma must be defeated badly. For Conte there is no option to share points at this time.

Ranieri first match as Roma coach did not go well after the defeat to Napoli, but I think in that match there was a significant improvement in Roma performance and also the game although they could not avoid defeat, Roma who are currently managed by Ranieri I think have a brighter prospect to rise than currently coached by Ivan Jurig previously, Facing Napoli who are in good form of course requires a team to have better squad depth, but Roma is still able to keep up with Napoli's game in the match even though their squad is not better than Napoli currently has, defeat is still a defeat but behind it all, of course Ranieri must be able to gain experience to improve his squad later when facing the next match in Serie A or in the UEL.

Claudio Ranieri's records rightly vindicates him as good manager that's capable of doing exploits with any team so I don't think it'll be nice to judge him with his first result as an AS Roma boss. Their game against Napoli yesterday was a difficult one for them which I think was expected knowing how impressive the league leaders have been this season. I believe Ranieri will improve the team's winning ratio in coming games in the Italian Serie A and in their European games.

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I feel you are an Inter fan, and that's why you are favouring Inter to win the league. Look at hoqe tight the point gap is and I don't expect this four teams to drop point any time soon. However, Napoli should be very careful and make sure that they win their matches, otherwise, Inter, Atalanta or fiorentina will take over the first position from them.

This will be somehow difficult for Napoli if they decline in performance. It's not yet mid season and judging too quickly that Inter will win the league is not certain for them yet.

I'm not an Inter fan, I just favor Inter.
Indeed, there are still quite a lot of matches left, and the situation may change for each team. There will be teams that are consistent with their game, and there will be teams that experience a decline in performance for whatever reason. Whether it's player injuries or other technical reasons.
But logically, if you look at the current standings and team performance, of course, you won't choose a team that is not at the top of the standings at this time. For example, of course,e you won't favor Roma to win Serie A considering their current performance, even though you might be a Roma fan.

Yes the trip is still far away, every team can experience up and down in its performance and all of them are not certain for who will win this season, whether it is Inter Milan, Napoli, Atalanta and others we are still blind to it in the future, but sometimes we are sometimes Prefer to speculate to see the future who has the strongest possibility to be the winner this season, and I think it's not wrong, like a human always likes predictions.

Usually in terms of favoring we will see from the data that is present and we believe it is because by itself it will definitely contribute to the league running until this moment.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 25, 2024, 11:30:57 AM

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This kind of competition makes Serie A more interesting. Napoli improved their performance compared to last season, they are currently performing better. and Inter will probably fight hard to bring down Napoli, because last season they were very dominant, even winning the trophy with a fairly large difference in points. but this season the competition seems very interesting Serie A. Napoli will be a competitor, but Inter will probably retain their trophy.

I feel you are an Inter fan, and that's why you are favouring Inter to win the league. Look at hoqe tight the point gap is and I don't expect this four teams to drop point any time soon. However, Napoli should be very careful and make sure that they win their matches, otherwise, Inter, Atalanta or fiorentina will take over the first position from them.

This will be somehow difficult for Napoli if they decline in performance. It's not yet mid season and judging too quickly that Inter will win the league is not certain for them yet.

I'm not an Inter fan, I just favor Inter.
Indeed, there are still quite a lot of matches left, and the situation may change for each team. There will be teams that are consistent with their game, and there will be teams that experience a decline in performance for whatever reason. Whether it's player injuries or other technical reasons.
But logically, if you look at the current standings and team performance, of course, you won't choose a team that is not at the top of the standings at this time. For example, of course,e you won't favor Roma to win Serie A considering their current performance, even though you might be a Roma fan.

The Serie A is becoming more interesting lately, it's nice to see teams that didn't normally perform well at their best Currently and challenging the big boys, teams like Atalanta, Fiorentina and Lazio, they're currently at their best for so far and I hope it last long cause it makes the competition more tougher at least, it would make most of those big boys Ac Milan and Juventus work hard to be in the top 4 spot. Well among those three clubs I mentioned earlier I believe Atalanta is the most likely to maintain the top 4 post, they work so hard for it in every match and it's paying up so far. Anyways, I'm not really an Inter Milan fan as well but I like the club and I hope they work hard enough to retain the title. Well, it won't be bad to see another club claim the title and I think Napoli is looking like that team xause of how well they're doing with Conte, I feel the title challenge is between Inter, Napoli and maybe Juventus or Atalanta but Inter still remains the most likely to win the title despite being in the 3rd position currently.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 25, 2024, 10:55:21 AM

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With AS Roma condition this season, Napoli should be able to take advantage of the condition to steal points because this victory will return them to the top of the Serie A standings. The 13th match is the capital that Conte needs to maximize, he managed to bring Napoli in his first season very well so AS Roma must be defeated badly. For Conte there is no option to share points at this time.

Even with the recent appointments of the former Leicester City manager Ranieri , I knew this was not the game for them to share points with Antonio Conte and his side Napoli.
I have always wanted them to win the seria A league competition this season but the scudeetto league competition has got to be one of the hardest and toughest this season. As Roma did well but they didn't create too many clear chances leading to goal during the game yesterday. Napels were the better side.

However, there is no doubt that Napoli will still win that match. Moreover, Napoli is playing at home and AS Roma still needs time to recover with their new manager, so the victory can be ascertained before the match starts. But at least, a victory with a narrow score of 1-0 like this might also be a little surprising. Because at least, if I consider based on the situation and condition of AS Roma, then Napoli should be able to win with a higher score than 1-0. But yes, the point is to get full points, because then Napoli is back at the top of the standings. Although not completely safe, at least Napoli can still be consistent in the fight for the scudetto this season under Conte.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 25, 2024, 10:55:21 AM

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With AS Roma condition this season, Napoli should be able to take advantage of the condition to steal points because this victory will return them to the top of the Serie A standings. The 13th match is the capital that Conte needs to maximize, he managed to bring Napoli in his first season very well so AS Roma must be defeated badly. For Conte there is no option to share points at this time.

Even with the recent appointments of the former Leicester City manager Ranieri , I knew this was not the game for them to share points with Antonio Conte and his side Napoli.
I have always wanted them to win the seria A league competition this season but the scudeetto league competition has got to be one of the hardest and toughest this season. As Roma did well but they didn't create too many clear chances leading to goal during the game yesterday. Napels were the better side.

Ranieri first match as Roma coach did not go well after the defeat to Napoli, but I think in that match there was a significant improvement in Roma performance and also the game although they could not avoid defeat, Roma who are currently managed by Ranieri I think have a brighter prospect to rise than currently coached by Ivan Jurig previously, Facing Napoli who are in good form of course requires a team to have better squad depth, but Roma is still able to keep up with Napoli's game in the match even though their squad is not better than Napoli currently has, defeat is still a defeat but behind it all, of course Ranieri must be able to gain experience to improve his squad later when facing the next match in Serie A or in the UEL.

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This kind of competition makes Serie A more interesting. Napoli improved their performance compared to last season, they are currently performing better. and Inter will probably fight hard to bring down Napoli, because last season they were very dominant, even winning the trophy with a fairly large difference in points. but this season the competition seems very interesting Serie A. Napoli will be a competitor, but Inter will probably retain their trophy.

I feel you are an Inter fan, and that's why you are favouring Inter to win the league. Look at hoqe tight the point gap is and I don't expect this four teams to drop point any time soon. However, Napoli should be very careful and make sure that they win their matches, otherwise, Inter, Atalanta or fiorentina will take over the first position from them.

This will be somehow difficult for Napoli if they decline in performance. It's not yet mid season and judging too quickly that Inter will win the league is not certain for them yet.

I'm not an Inter fan, I just favor Inter.
Indeed, there are still quite a lot of matches left, and the situation may change for each team. There will be teams that are consistent with their game, and there will be teams that experience a decline in performance for whatever reason. Whether it's player injuries or other technical reasons.
But logically, if you look at the current standings and team performance, of course, you won't choose a team that is not at the top of the standings at this time. For example, of course,e you won't favor Roma to win Serie A considering their current performance, even though you might be a Roma fan.

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