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Quote from: knowngunman on November 24, 2024, 02:03:43 AM

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Although, the draw at Milan home is not a satisfactory result for Juventus but it is commendable and is more than good in my opinion. It's difficult to have a performance better than that when you are playing without a scorer. You can't score if you don't have strikers who know how to do their job in front of the net.

yes, at least they drew and shared 1 point. At least, Milan's position is still safe in 7th position, because Bologna lost to Lazio this time. Yes, Bologna was quite unlucky, because they also got a red card in the first half, giving Lazio a big advantage to score 3 goals without reply. while Juventus is still in 6th position with a relatively safe number of points in that position.

Quote from: mv1986 on November 24, 2024, 05:42:23 PM

Lucky them that Napoli was dropping points already or otherwise they would be miles behind in the table despite not losing any games. Next stop is Aston Villa for them and it is probably not going to be another draw without goals.

Yes, the gap between Milan and Juventus is quite a lot from the teams at the top. It's just that for Serie A, the competition is very tight. In fact, the points of the clubs from top 1 to 5 are only 1 point different and even exactly the same. So every match in Serie A is very influential on their next position. They must be much more vigilant with this one condition.

Source: Serie A table

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Quote from: Juse14 on November 24, 2024, 04:29:14 PM

Bologna showed a pretty good defense even though they only played with 10 men so that the first half ended with a draw. At the beginning of the first half there were no significant problems from Bologna's defense line, but when it reached the 68th minute Bologna's defense seemed unable to withstand the attacks made by Lazio, so that 2 goals finally nested in Bologna's goal.

By only playing with 10 men, it is very difficult for Bologna to attack to be able to catch up, all they can do now is defend and defend so that there is no goal party for Lazio in this match. I don't think there will be any additional goals because the match has now reached the 80th minute, the referee will soon blow the long whistle as a sign of the end of the match

And the 3-0 score is probably a mirror of how difficult it is to overcome Lazio for Bologna. When playing with ten men, that pressure starts mounting. In the second half, that's when the pressure really set in because Lazio managed to take advantage of their numerical advantage and dominated the game.

The first half was balanced, but into the second half, Bologna started to lose their grip in stamina and focus. Lazio upped the momentum of their attacks and finally, Bologna couldn't stand the pressure; two quick goals for Lazio, one after another in the middle minutes. Another goal towards the end of the match, and Lazio cruises to a comfortable victory.

Bologna seemed to be making an effort to keep a clean sheet, not to concede more goals. However, with the playing conditions limping, their fight back or even catching up proved almost impossible.

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Fiorentina won again but it is unlikely that the will keep this pace until the end of the season.

Winning against a 17th placed Como is not a problem for Fiorentina, is like watching David vs Goliath battle it out but not like the one we know in the Bible. Fiorentina has been in good shape and keeping that spot on the log is enough to say they mean business and they're not here to joke around on like last season when they find it hard to maintain that pace of winning games.
Como are also trying their best to stay off the relegation zone but I can't say they're going to get something out of that encounter against Fiorentina, even without the red card I don't see Como matching up with the visitors. The league is very open for any team that is occupying the position from 1-6 to win the league but it depends on how consistent they continue to be, if any team drops point I don't think it would be easy to catch up but for now we should be looking at the top 4 teams who's going to drop point first?

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 24, 2024, 02:52:20 AM

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It was kin dog expected because Juventus is playing draws almost all the time. No goals was unexpected, I agree. Pretty weird. But Juventus is conceding hardly any goals, scoring any goals. In a certain sense, it was almost predictable.

Talking about defense then I can say Juventus is the team with the most solid defense in Serie A. They have only conceded 7 goals in 12 games. But it seems they can't take advantage of that. They have 7 draws and 6 wins without a defeat. I don't know if they are struggling to create chances or they need a playmaker or a striker with good finishing ability. This is a problem for Juventus because they should have got a better result. But for now I think this is a fair result for both teams. They have equal statistical records in this match. And yes it seems both teams played at a slow tempo in this match.

That is of course correct, but as you can see this is of barely any help if you want to win titles when actually your offense can't win the game either. Sure it is always good to have a rock solid defense, but Juventus Turin has higher ambitions than just playing most of the games 0-0 or 1-1. 0-0 against Roma, Empoli, Napoli, and Milan and then several games that ended 1-1. It is not that exciting obviously and I as a fan would hate it if my team is all about the defense.

Lucky them that Napoli was dropping points already or otherwise they would be miles behind in the table despite not losing any games. Next stop is Aston Villa for them and it is probably not going to be another draw without goals.

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Bologna showed a pretty good defense even though they only played with 10 men so that the first half ended with a draw. At the beginning of the first half there were no significant problems from Bologna's defense line, but when it reached the 68th minute Bologna's defense seemed unable to withstand the attacks made by Lazio, so that 2 goals finally nested in Bologna's goal.

By only playing with 10 men, it is very difficult for Bologna to attack to be able to catch up, all they can do now is defend and defend so that there is no goal party for Lazio in this match. I don't think there will be any additional goals because the match has now reached the 80th minute, the referee will soon blow the long whistle as a sign of the end of the match

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Quote from: hahay on November 24, 2024, 12:54:09 PM

It seems quite difficult for Napoli to score a goal because the score is still 0-0 in the first half, even though in reality Napoli dominates the match well. Beforehand, I think Napoli will be able to score a goal in the first half, because at least AS Roma with its new coach may still find it difficult to make the performance as expected. But yes, at least in the first half Ranieri managed to make AS Roma not concede even though they only played defensively. Of course, I personally will still be very curious, whether Ranieri is able to make AS Roma not lose in this away match.

Because after all, Napoli who has experienced a decline in position in the standings, of course Napoli is very ambitious to be able to return to the top of the standings by targeting a win in this home match. If Napoli fails to get full points in this match, then of course the scudetto competition will be more difficult and interesting, because there is still no team that is able to secure its position at the top of the standings.

At first AS Roma tried their possible best to see if they could maintain the game on a draw; that is why they played a defensive game throughout the match, but that still didn’t favor them because Lukaku got the first goal of the game for Napoli at 54 minutes of the game after they came back for the second half, which is how the game ended with a score of 1-0. Although AS Roma tried very hard on their defense, we know that they will not have that hope to win the game against Napoli no matter what. Their performance is not the same, and we know that Napoli will try their best to make it to the top again, which they have done already, which is a good performance for them.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on November 24, 2024, 04:09:02 PM

Lukaku did his job in the 54th minute of the game to give Napoli another hope of toping the Seria A table again after being overtuned by Atalanta.

They returned to the top after previously Napoli's position was taken by Atalanta and Milan who had played before Napoli and Lukaku's 1 goal in this match saved Napoli from losing the top of the standings.

But Roma's defeat was a little more painful it seemed, apart from those who could not move from the 12th position of the current standings, the goal scored by Lukaku was also a little painful because Lukaku was previously the spearhead they had even though his status was only on loan but still it was quite painful for them.
This victory is worthy of Napoli even though we can see that from the start their finishing was poor but with the performance that Napoli showed from the start of the match, these 3 points are actually very worthy of them.

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Quote from: hahay on November 24, 2024, 12:54:09 PM

It seems quite difficult for Napoli to score a goal because the score is still 0-0 in the first half, even though in reality Napoli dominates the match well. Beforehand, I think Napoli will be able to score a goal in the first half, because at least AS Roma with its new coach may still find it difficult to make the performance as expected. But yes, at least in the first half Ranieri managed to make AS Roma not concede even though they only played defensively. Of course, I personally will still be very curious, whether Ranieri is able to make AS Roma not lose in this away match.

AS Roma made the game difficult for Napoli even as they are playing away from home; they were able to limit Napoli from making so many attempts in the first half which was very impressive, but lack of consistency and too much pressure from Napoli's attack made the difference.

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Because after all, Napoli, who has experienced a decline in position in the standings, is of course very ambitious to be able to return to the top of the standings by targeting a win in this home match. If Napoli fails to get full points in this match, then of course the scudetto competition will be more difficult and interesting because there is still no team that is able to secure its position at the top of the standings.

Lukaku did his job in the 54th minute of the game to give Napoli another hope of toping the Seria A table again after being overtuned by Atalanta.

The Seria A table looks very scary and interesting to look at right now because there is only one point difference between the first position and the second, third, and fourth positions in the Seria A table; this means that any team that makes a mistake to drop points can drop drastically to the fifth position.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on November 24, 2024, 03:23:26 PM

Napoli is currently in better form than Roma, and Napoli was the team most people expected to win the game. That is exactly what happened. At the end of the game, Napoli was able to win with one goal. Honestly, the match was tough, but Napoli deserved to win. I was so happy for them as they were able to defend their one-goal lead after scoring in the fiftieth minute of the match. Napoli was also the team in control of the pitch, as they managed to dominate ball possession.

Yeah Napoli can secure 3 points in this match and they returned to the race after bad results in the previous 2 matches while taking over the top of the standings from Atalanta. At first I thought the two teams would play aggressively so that they scored a lot of goals but unfortunately AS Roma can't do much and only recorded 6 shot efforts and 1 of them on target of course it's not a good way to get out of bad results. Now the competition in Serie A is getting tougher when each team has the same points or just one point behind, meanwhile we have not been able to confirm which team is closer to the title.

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The match between Lazio and Bologna has started, and it seems to be a tough game as both teams are playing really well. Despite the game just starting, it is looking more interesting. I would say that any team may have a chance to win the match, but I have more confidence in Lazio than Bologna, as they are currently playing well. Also, since it is their home game, they will likely put in more effort to avoid losing to Bologna. However, let's see what happens before the end of the first half.

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With AS Roma condition this season, Napoli should be able to take advantage of the condition to steal points because this victory will return them to the top of the Serie A standings. The 13th match is the capital that Conte needs to maximize, he managed to bring Napoli in his first season very well so AS Roma must be defeated badly. For Conte there is no option to share points at this time.

The match was between Napoli full strength team and Roma full strength team is continue but I think Roma will big be winner of that match because Napoli team is in good rhythm and that team players are looking very confident for that match and they will give their all effort to win this match. They are playing in the Stadio Diego Armando Maradona and So far Napoli team is doing attack and they wii be successful to do goal in next few minutes because Roma team defense is not good and they can leave ball and we can see goal in this match and I am sure that match is not going towards draw and there will be decision of that match which will be in the favour of Napoli team.

Napoli is currently in better form than Roma, and Napoli was the team most people expected to win the game. That is exactly what happened. At the end of the game, Napoli was able to win with one goal. Honestly, the match was tough, but Napoli deserved to win. I was so happy for them as they were able to defend their one-goal lead after scoring in the fiftieth minute of the match. Napoli was also the team in control of the pitch, as they managed to dominate ball possession.

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Quote from: W Jr. on November 24, 2024, 02:17:02 PM

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To be fair when both teams are known for their good defenses, this was the result that was the most expected one, both teams have great defenses and they lack a lot of things on offense as well.

Milan did try a few times, and so did Juventus, and when you watch the highlights you could literally realize that you are not going to get a game that would make much sense, it wasn't really even a highlight, it was a boringlight or whatever you want to call it. I didn't watch the full game so I can't call it much, but watched the highlights on youtube and I can say that even the highlights were boring. Sometimes you have these type of games, but considering both teams are good teams, they must be happy to not lose the game against each other.

Well, you've got a point. When two good teams meet each other and can't get the best out of the other, the next thing to settle for is a draw but if anything, I felt Milan would have taken advantage of Juventus only need to defend and try to poach more. When a team relies solely on their defense strategy, definitely, there'd come a period where they will get tired and start making mistakes but Milan isn't that kind of club that makes use of that kind of opportunity. They become clueless after they've tried the only thing they are good at, which is to force counterattacks.

Milan could not use the advantage of the crowd in the match they played at home. Since Juventus played away, I think they got a good score so they did not lose. However, Milan has been bad lately for them to play well in this match. Juventus is limiting themselves to saying they are doing very well, but they cannot show any offensive power. They are not losing, but they cannot win either.

The problem with Juventus' management is that they are hiring coaches who prioritize defense over attack. Note that the current coach does not have major differences with the former coach. Juventus is the same as it was in the last two seasons. They concede few goals, but they are not fighting for the title. So I do not see any advantage in keeping Juventus' current coach. Note that even teams like Fiorentina are doing better, which clearly proves that a good coach is essential for a team that wants to achieve things. To be honest, I doubt very much that in this and the next seasons Juventus will be able to become champions with this current coach.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on November 24, 2024, 12:29:30 PM

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To be fair when both teams are known for their good defenses, this was the result that was the most expected one, both teams have great defenses and they lack a lot of things on offense as well.

Milan did try a few times, and so did Juventus, and when you watch the highlights you could literally realize that you are not going to get a game that would make much sense, it wasn't really even a highlight, it was a boringlight or whatever you want to call it. I didn't watch the full game so I can't call it much, but watched the highlights on youtube and I can say that even the highlights were boring. Sometimes you have these type of games, but considering both teams are good teams, they must be happy to not lose the game against each other.

Well, you've got a point. When two good teams meet each other and can't get the best out of the other, the next thing to settle for is a draw but if anything, I felt Milan would have taken advantage of Juventus only need to defend and try to poach more. When a team relies solely on their defense strategy, definitely, there'd come a period where they will get tired and start making mistakes but Milan isn't that kind of club that makes use of that kind of opportunity. They become clueless after they've tried the only thing they are good at, which is to force counterattacks.

Milan could not use the advantage of the crowd in the match they played at home. Since Juventus played away, I think they got a good score so they did not lose. However, Milan has been bad lately for them to play well in this match. Juventus is limiting themselves to saying they are doing very well, but they cannot show any offensive power. They are not losing, but they cannot win either.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on November 24, 2024, 01:06:29 PM

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With AS Roma condition this season, Napoli should be able to take advantage of the condition to steal points because this victory will return them to the top of the Serie A standings. The 13th match is the capital that Conte needs to maximize, he managed to bring Napoli in his first season very well so AS Roma must be defeated badly. For Conte there is no option to share points at this time.

The match was between Napoli full strength team and Roma full strength team is continue but I think Roma will big be winner of that match because Napoli team is in good rhythm and that team players are looking very confident for that match and they will give their all effort to win this match. They are playing in the Stadio Diego Armando Maradona and So far Napoli team is doing attack and they wii be successful to do goal in next few minutes because Roma team defense is not good and they can leave ball and we can see goal in this match and I am sure that match is not going towards draw and there will be decision of that match which will be in the favour of Napoli team.

The match is already at the closing stage and so far Napoli has been the leading team, since Romulu Lukaku gave Napoli the lead. It has been a tight game so far as none of the team want to give their chances away. Napoli at home made good use of their home advantage and are set to take the maximum points in this match. Roma on the other hand are fighting tirelessly to make sure that they get something from this match, but Napoli gave them no chance, as they know what is at stake in this game. If they had fail to win, that would have given Atalanta the opportunity to remain at the submit of the table. But so far Napoli has remained solid as the win against Roma would give them the opportunity to get back at the top of the table, with one point advantage over Atalanta, Inter Milan and Fiorentina. Napoli has to continue winning because any mistake henceforth will see them drop from the top of the table. As they are just topping the league with a point and their are three teams behind them with same points.

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Fiorentina won again but it is unlikely that the will keep this pace until the end of the season.
Meanwhile the big match between Napoli and Roma is in favor of Napoli since they are winning 1-0.

Not a great start for Sir Ranieri so far.

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Quote from: Minecache on November 24, 2024, 12:41:25 PM

Juventus have definitely not been that bad. But they have also not been good enough that they can actually push for the league title. The attacking lineup for them has not been very bad. But it has also not been so good that they will be able to win crucial matches and score goals when needed. That is the reason why they are not winning as many matches as they should. All the time it feels like they are playing really defensively. And I think that is holding them back. The performance have been kind of stale for them.

Bringing in attacking players is probably going to boost the scoring rate for Juventus. But I think they will have to change their mentality of playing defensively first. Without attacking enough, you are not going to create enough chances to actually score goals.

Not the worst match for Juventus attack, but they do not score again and again only a draw. For now Juventus maintains a 3-point gap from the leaders, if Napoli wins the match against Roma then Napoli will return to the top, and for now there are no big changes, the teams are point by point. I don't know if it is possible to say that Juventus is not ready to fight for the Scudetto, they have the best defense in Serie A, but they definitely lack a good forward who will score.

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 24, 2024, 04:06:45 AM

With AS Roma condition this season, Napoli should be able to take advantage of the condition to steal points because this victory will return them to the top of the Serie A standings. The 13th match is the capital that Conte needs to maximize, he managed to bring Napoli in his first season very well so AS Roma must be defeated badly. For Conte there is no option to share points at this time.

The match was between Napoli full strength team and Roma full strength team is continue but I think Roma will big be winner of that match because Napoli team is in good rhythm and that team players are looking very confident for that match and they will give their all effort to win this match. They are playing in the Stadio Diego Armando Maradona and So far Napoli team is doing attack and they wii be successful to do goal in next few minutes because Roma team defense is not good and they can leave ball and we can see goal in this match and I am sure that match is not going towards draw and there will be decision of that match which will be in the favour of Napoli team.

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Quote from: Chilwell on November 24, 2024, 11:51:11 AM

Napoli vs Roma

Napoli (predicted lineup): Alex Meret, Giovanni Di Lorenzo, Amir Rrahmani, Alessandro Buongiorno, Mathias Olivera, Andre-Frank Zambo Anguissa, Stanislav Lobotka, Scott McTominay, Matteo Politano, Romelu Lukaku, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia.

Roma (predicted lineup): Mile Svilar, Gianluca Mancini, Evan N'Dicka, Angelino, Mehmet Zeki Celik, Stephan El Shaarawy, Kouadio Kone, Bryan Cristante, Niccolo Pisilli, Lorenzo Pellegrini, Artem Dovbyk.

Napoli is in the 4th place on the table which is so bad for them and they are going head-to-head against Roma. This match is very important for Napoli to win to regain back their spot at the top. Atalanta, Inter and Fiorentina have won their 13 round of the league which makes them push down Napoli to fourth place currently, Napoli is facing a lot of challenges regarding strikers because they are lacking goal scoring. They have to take the Roma poor performance to gain back their first position.

It was a goalless draw in the first half and the match wasn't as interesting as I expected it. I thought that Napoli would have scored one goal before the end of the first half because Roma is not in a good form currently to hold down Napoli from scoring, but I was wrong. If this match ends in a draw, it means that if Lazio wins Bologna, Napoli will be on the 5th position. Clubs that we don't expect are struggling to see how they can be in a good position to win the title in the long.

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It seems quite difficult for Napoli to score a goal because the score is still 0-0 in the first half, even though in reality Napoli dominates the match well. Beforehand, I think Napoli will be able to score a goal in the first half, because at least AS Roma with its new coach may still find it difficult to make the performance as expected. But yes, at least in the first half Ranieri managed to make AS Roma not concede even though they only played defensively. Of course, I personally will still be very curious, whether Ranieri is able to make AS Roma not lose in this away match.

Because after all, Napoli who has experienced a decline in position in the standings, of course Napoli is very ambitious to be able to return to the top of the standings by targeting a win in this home match. If Napoli fails to get full points in this match, then of course the scudetto competition will be more difficult and interesting, because there is still no team that is able to secure its position at the top of the standings.

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I admit that Juventus does have a weak attack line and I have also said that it is very difficult when Juventus hopes to win the title this season only relying on the strength of a very strong defense line. But the results in each match can only get a draw or only 1 point.
Maybe this is one of Motta strategies to try the strategy he has and see how the squad potential is. But unfortunately I doubt if Juventus will bring in quality players in january because of financial problems that prevent Juventus from spending too much money.
Or maybe Motta will only bring in attacking players at a cheaper price but have reliable talent.

The attack line is indeed a problem that needs to be evaluated and now we can see the ability of Juventus' forwards to score goals in several matches that have taken place. If we rely on strength like now, then I am a little pessimistic that Juventus can compete for the title because on the other hand there are teams like Napoli and Inter Milan whose front line performance is much better. There is not much that needs to be fixed and the most crucial thing is the front line so that Juventus can be seen to be more productive in scoring goals to get victory.

If the financial constraints they are experiencing then simply maximize the purchase for the front line and Motta can maximize some of the potential that currently exists. If Juventus wants to compete for the title this season then they must also look at the team's ability and how far they are ready to compete.

Juventus have definitely not been that bad. But they have also not been good enough that they can actually push for the league title. The attacking lineup for them has not been very bad. But it has also not been so good that they will be able to win crucial matches and score goals when needed. That is the reason why they are not winning as many matches as they should. All the time it feels like they are playing really defensively. And I think that is holding them back. The performance have been kind of stale for them.

Bringing in attacking players is probably going to boost the scoring rate for Juventus. But I think they will have to change their mentality of playing defensively first. Without attacking enough, you are not going to create enough chances to actually score goals.

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Quote from: beerlover on November 24, 2024, 07:52:29 AM

To be fair when both teams are known for their good defenses, this was the result that was the most expected one, both teams have great defenses and they lack a lot of things on offense as well.

Milan did try a few times, and so did Juventus, and when you watch the highlights you could literally realize that you are not going to get a game that would make much sense, it wasn't really even a highlight, it was a boringlight or whatever you want to call it. I didn't watch the full game so I can't call it much, but watched the highlights on youtube and I can say that even the highlights were boring. Sometimes you have these type of games, but considering both teams are good teams, they must be happy to not lose the game against each other.

Well, you've got a point. When two good teams meet each other and can't get the best out of the other, the next thing to settle for is a draw but if anything, I felt Milan would have taken advantage of Juventus only need to defend and try to poach more. When a team relies solely on their defense strategy, definitely, there'd come a period where they will get tired and start making mistakes but Milan isn't that kind of club that makes use of that kind of opportunity. They become clueless after they've tried the only thing they are good at, which is to force counterattacks.

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