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Quote from: Silence Scream on February 09, 2023, 02:06:34 AM

The probability of being first is almost zero now, and they will have to work hard for the top 5. Juventus are going through a tough time, they also suffered extra losses after a 15 point wipeout penalty. However, they do not have the luxury of losing points. Juventus is required to fight with all his being in the games ahead and to close the difference in points.

Juventus has no probability to become number one in serie a. The gap with napoli is too good to be true to be achieved. Juventus can't even reach the top 4 to be qualified for the champion league. What juventus can do is still winning the game to be qualified for the europa league. Im not even sure whether juventus will be able to do that or not. It's caused by so many teams also competing for that spots to be able to play in the europa league.
Juventus is not on the 10th position which needs a lot of points to go to the 6th positions. Allegri was not even expecting something big to happen with juventus. The sanction was ruining the team.

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Quote from: jostorres on February 09, 2023, 04:04:03 AM

If we have no deduction of points for the Juventus then clearly they could at second spot with good chance for staying here until end of this season, but this all creates big mess up, and they lost three important points against Monza as well which is surely also just due to this all but now after having three points in last game they are doing good comeback and have good chance to stay in hunt for the fifth or sixth spot which could be also good for them because recently we have some good drop of performance and quality from the AC Milan and Atlanta which can give them benefit.

Juventus did have a very great streak that helps them to move to a third position before a point deduction event. After that, they had a few bad weeks but managed to return to winning. I don't know will they be able to continue their winning but at least that winning is good for them at this moment. Top 6 of Serie A in this season has many clubs that have different problems that make them very unstable. It gives Juventus a kind of hope that if they play well, they can complete the season in top 6 of Serie A at least. For top four, it is a more challenging task and we have to wait until a day when Juventus can claim a six position before discussing more about their chance to get a position in top four.

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Now they are having semifinal against Inter for the Cop Italia which is also good for them to beat them and have one trophy as well in coming days they also have another match against Nantes for the UEFA Europa Cup which also can give them good hopes for going until good round of this cup.

Both of them will want to win because both Inter Milan and Juventus will not be able to win Scudetto which mostly will be taken by Napoli. So Coppa Italia is a trophy they can win in this season. Champions League or Europa League is somewhat harder to win too.

In Coppa Italia, they only have a few more matches to play and take the trophy. Semi then final matches and get the crown.

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Quote from: makishart on February 08, 2023, 07:04:40 PM

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Juventus this season have been unable to do anything even though they have won every game in points, they are still very far behind. to win first place or return to the top five requires a very extra struggle. Maybe this will be an important lesson for Juventus and prepare for a better strategy in next season's league matches.

The points deduction has been making juventus lots almost a half from its previous points. Juventus might had more than 40 points now if there would be no points deduction as a sanction for juventus. Juventus is now only trying to climbing up without any target.
The good thing is juventus is still having a chance to win copa italia. That means juventus will able to get at least one trophy for this season which is good rather than get nothing for sure.
Another problems are also coming again for juventus as more players got injured like miretti who has been getting injury against salernitana.

If we have no deduction of points for the Juventus then clearly they could at second spot with good chance for staying here until end of this season, but this all creates big mess up, and they lost three important points against Monza as well which is surely also just due to this all but now after having three points in last game they are doing good comeback and have good chance to stay in hunt for the fifth or sixth spot which could be also good for them because recently we have some good drop of performance and quality from the AC Milan and Atlanta which can give them benefit.

Now they are having semifinal against Inter for the Cop Italia which is also good for them to beat them and have one trophy as well in coming days they also have another match against Nantes for the UEFA Europa Cup which also can give them good hopes for going until good round of this cup.

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Quote from: makishart on February 08, 2023, 07:04:40 PM

The points deduction has been making juventus lots almost a half from its previous points. Juventus might had more than 40 points now if there would be no points deduction as a sanction for juventus. Juventus is now only trying to climbing up without any target.
The good thing is juventus is still having a chance to win copa italia. That means juventus will able to get at least one trophy for this season which is good rather than get nothing for sure.
Another problems are also coming again for juventus as more players got injured like miretti who has been getting injury against salernitana.

That penalty is debatable, in my opinion. It was obvious that it was more of a contest for the ball than a foul on the player. It would be a miracle to see Juve in the top four if they continue to play and win this way. My favorite players during the game are: Di Maria, whose passes are just too fabulous. I wish his shot hadn't hit the crossbar. I needed him to be on the score sheet. Also, Nicolò Fagioli provided a super assist to Duan Vlahovi that led to the goal. And Kostic.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on February 09, 2023, 02:06:34 AM

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At least that's what Juventus should be doing for the rest of the season. They have to make the most of every match to get points so they have chance to qualify for the Europa League, of course it's difficult but they have to try to do it because there are 51 points up for grabs for the rest of the season for Juventus.

I believe that Juventus will eventually fail to qualify for the Champions League because it is very difficult to expect the current top 4 teams to not be able to maintain their position. The best hope is Europa League or European Conference League Qualification, but of course the current 12 point gap is worrying.

Juventus this season have been unable to do anything even though they have won every game in points, they are still very far behind. to win first place or return to the top five requires a very extra struggle. Maybe this will be an important lesson for Juventus and prepare for a better strategy in next season's league matches.

The probability of being first is almost zero now, and they will have to work hard for the top 5. Juventus are going through a tough time, they also suffered extra losses after a 15 point wipeout penalty. However, they do not have the luxury of losing points. Juventus is required to fight with all his being in the games ahead and to close the difference in points.

Almost zero? The chance of Juventus being in the first spot is 'certainly' zero this season, and I don't think they can make the first 5 spots anymore because there are fierce contenders from the 6th position upwards. Juventus brought this upon themselves, 15 points is huge and it's rare, meaning that the punishment was caused by daring, and I fully agree with it.

They knowingly flout the rules and no matter how they try this season, they will be within the 6-9 spot in the end.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 08, 2023, 06:30:03 PM

The horrible run continues for Milan and their next opponent is Torino in two days. The game is going to be played in San Siro. But I really can't see even any home game as an advantage for Milan.

Because we have seen a great example for it. Sassuolo demolished them by 5-2 a short time ago. Torino are placed right below Milan in the standings now. Technically I would expect this game to be even more challenging. But it is up to Milan's effort level as well of course. If they show some improvement on the field then Torino might not stand a chance. Otherwise I'd rather betting on both teams to score as I expect so.

Milan is going through a really bad period, from having won a Scudetto a short time ago to today's situation
I don't think the fans are happy with how it's going
the incredible thing is that I can't understand the reason for what happens, what do you think? wrong shopping campaign?

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It was a happy moment yesterday seeing Juventus coasting to victory, despite that it is an expected victory as usual but we all know that Juventus has not been performing well in the recent time so their fans seeing them coming through in this match is a thing of joy, but consistency should come to play in this team unless they don't want to go far in the league table.

There is nothing we can expect from Juventus even if they win all the remaining matches I don't think it's enough to compete in Serie A, especially for Top 4
Juventus have to undergo this season without a target to reach the European League zone they are 12 points behind obviously it's not an easy situation

It's difficult for them at the moment but they can still have at least 1 trophy now because they are still following and are in the Italian Cup Semi-Finals. As for Serie A it will obviously be difficult for them or maybe they can still hope for a playoff against Nantes who can still compete in the Europa League but I doubt that.

Juventus chances on Copa Italy looks quite good because after beat Lazio they qualified to semifinal and in my opinion rather than thinking to cut gap points between them with other teams in the top 6 i think Juventus should be more for focus for this competition because if Juventus won the title at least they can able to playing on europa league as Copa Italy champion status but indeed Juventus have to hard struggle because they will met strong opponent Inter in semifinal

Juventus upcoming opponent in Serie A is Fiorentina and looking forward to see this match result whether they can able to beat Fiorentina or not but Fiorentina isn't weak opponent for Juventus and from head to head statistics it showed Juventus cannot able to wins 2 times streak from Fiorentina so this is hard match for them but Fiorentina currently is not in the good shape after failed to win 4 times in a row so Juventus should be utilized these records to earn 3 points

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Quote from: jayce on February 08, 2023, 04:51:21 PM

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That is the strength that Allegri can revive for Juventus players to be able to work hard and forget all the problems that have befallen them. Allegri is a figure who is able to make Juventus come back strong this season, either before Juventus is penalized or after being penalized by the FIGC.

No one really understands Juventus except Allegri, even after he got sacked couple years ago. And now when he is back, he able to rebuild this team again although they had rough start in the early of season. Going into UCL might be almost impossible for them, but the chance for UEL is quite big, which I'm sure they able to win against Inter in semifinal of Coppa Italia, which the cup winner secures a spot in UEL.

Yes Jayce, i added you bro. For UEL, Juventus will put more emphasis on the league. They have to be successful in Copa Italy as well. They eliminated Lazio and they have a semi-final match against Inter in April. The team that wins this match and advances will probably also win the final because the next match will be played between Cremonense and Fiorentina. Both teams will struggle in the final. I think Inter and Juventus are strong enough to beat these two teams. That's why it's very important for Juventus to eliminate Inter first.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 08, 2023, 06:30:03 PM

The horrible run continues for Milan and their next opponent is Torino in two days. The game is going to be played in San Siro. But I really can't see even any home game as an advantage for Milan.

Because we have seen a great example for it. Sassuolo demolished them by 5-2 a short time ago. Torino are placed right below Milan in the standings now. Technically I would expect this game to be even more challenging. But it is up to Milan's effort level as well of course. If they show some improvement on the field then Torino might not stand a chance. Otherwise I'd rather betting on both teams to score as I expect so.

Situation is surely now from bad to worse as they are currently in lowest three teams with current form and Torino is having good performance in last few matches, and now they have good chance for the having good result in this game as well because this result can give them some chance for the having contender for the UEFA competitions candidate they have just one lost from their last five games and with this result they will be able to have 33 points just five less from AC Milan which is now having the worst time due to poor performance and some injuries are also having big impact on their game with still shocking as they are coming down from second to sixth with still have chance to go down and faced humiliation for their poor run in Serie A and Champions League as well.

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Quote from: bounceback on February 09, 2023, 12:46:30 AM

Seeing AC Milan's performance after losing to the Inter Milan team with a score of 1-0, it seems that the Milan team currently has no signs of being able to rise from its slump and is able to end the season with good results because this season AC Milan has played unsatisfactorily even in 11 matches. previously they had only been able to win once.
With the team's current performance, I think the Torino team will come out victorious when they meet the Milan team, even though Milan has the advantage of playing at home, but the Torino team's current performance is better than the ac milan team's performance.

I think so, Torino isn't really a weak team, they just get underestimated because they never join Europa League or Champions League. Torino have beat the last 2 matches against AC Milan, so there's a good chance Torino will beat AC Milan this time due to AC Milan's poor performance. The odds for Torino is high though, it's @5.00. I think it might one of easy money grab, don't miss to bet Torino.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on February 08, 2023, 06:40:51 PM

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At least that's what Juventus should be doing for the rest of the season. They have to make the most of every match to get points so they have chance to qualify for the Europa League, of course it's difficult but they have to try to do it because there are 51 points up for grabs for the rest of the season for Juventus.

I believe that Juventus will eventually fail to qualify for the Champions League because it is very difficult to expect the current top 4 teams to not be able to maintain their position. The best hope is Europa League or European Conference League Qualification, but of course the current 12 point gap is worrying.

Juventus this season have been unable to do anything even though they have won every game in points, they are still very far behind. to win first place or return to the top five requires a very extra struggle. Maybe this will be an important lesson for Juventus and prepare for a better strategy in next season's league matches.

The probability of being first is almost zero now, and they will have to work hard for the top 5. Juventus are going through a tough time, they also suffered extra losses after a 15 point wipeout penalty. However, they do not have the luxury of losing points. Juventus is required to fight with all his being in the games ahead and to close the difference in points.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 08, 2023, 06:30:03 PM

The horrible run continues for Milan and their next opponent is Torino in two days. The game is going to be played in San Siro. But I really can't see even any home game as an advantage for Milan.

Because we have seen a great example for it. Sassuolo demolished them by 5-2 a short time ago. Torino are placed right below Milan in the standings now. Technically I would expect this game to be even more challenging. But it is up to Milan's effort level as well of course. If they show some improvement on the field then Torino might not stand a chance. Otherwise I'd rather betting on both teams to score as I expect so.

Seeing AC Milan's performance after losing to the Inter Milan team with a score of 1-0, it seems that the Milan team currently has no signs of being able to rise from its slump and is able to end the season with good results because this season AC Milan has played unsatisfactorily even in 11 matches. previously they had only been able to win once.
With the team's current performance, I think the Torino team will come out victorious when they meet the Milan team, even though Milan has the advantage of playing at home, but the Torino team's current performance is better than the ac milan team's performance.

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The horrible run continues for Milan and their next opponent is Torino in two days. The game is going to be played in San Siro. But I really can't see even any home game as an advantage for Milan.

This match will going to be a tough match to both teams, because Milan are in 6th position and Torino are in 7th position in the Italian league table which the two teams will play very hard to move higher. I think, Milan will definitely win this match to move to 5th position because their coach will not allow what happened in their last match to happen in this match than to bring some tactics that will help them to achieve three points from Torino. And Milan will use home advantage to stop Torino not to move to 6th position in the Italian league table, because Milan are very good in using home to disgrace any team which they will definitely use it to defeat Torino 2-1.

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Quote from: Google+ on February 08, 2023, 02:08:09 PM

Vlahovic, who was absent for a long time in scoring goals, but in the match against selernitana he was able to contribute 2 goals which made his statistics have scored 8 goals so far. Even the latest issue of Vlahovic is being targeted by Manchester United in the next season's transfer window.

I was quite surprised by Vlahovic's appearance in that match and it seems he is indeed one of the key players for Juventus this season. He scored a brace after a long absence due to injury since the 2022 world cup in Qatar last year and this will make him even more eager to contribute with his goal in Juventus' next game. Even though there are rumors about Manchester United's interest in bringing him to Old Trafford, I am very confident that he will stay at Juventus until next season.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on February 08, 2023, 06:40:51 PM

Quote from: indah rezqi on February 08, 2023, 12:52:10 PM

At least that's what Juventus should be doing for the rest of the season. They have to make the most of every match to get points so they have chance to qualify for the Europa League, of course it's difficult but they have to try to do it because there are 51 points up for grabs for the rest of the season for Juventus.

I believe that Juventus will eventually fail to qualify for the Champions League because it is very difficult to expect the current top 4 teams to not be able to maintain their position. The best hope is Europa League or European Conference League Qualification, but of course the current 12 point gap is worrying.

Juventus this season have been unable to do anything even though they have won every game in points, they are still very far behind. to win first place or return to the top five requires a very extra struggle. Maybe this will be an important lesson for Juventus and prepare for a better strategy in next season's league matches.

The points deduction has been making juventus lots almost a half from its previous points. Juventus might had more than 40 points now if there would be no points deduction as a sanction for juventus. Juventus is now only trying to climbing up without any target.
The good thing is juventus is still having a chance to win copa italia. That means juventus will able to get at least one trophy for this season which is good rather than get nothing for sure.
Another problems are also coming again for juventus as more players got injured like miretti who has been getting injury against salernitana.

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It was a happy moment yesterday seeing Juventus coasting to victory, despite that it is an expected victory as usual but we all know that Juventus has not been performing well in the recent time so their fans seeing them coming through in this match is a thing of joy, but consistency should come to play in this team unless they don't want to go far in the league table.

There is nothing we can expect from Juventus even if they win all the remaining matches I don't think it's enough to compete in Serie A, especially for Top 4
Juventus have to undergo this season without a target to reach the European League zone they are 12 points behind obviously it's not an easy situation

It's difficult for them at the moment but they can still have at least 1 trophy now because they are still following and are in the Italian Cup Semi-Finals. As for Serie A it will obviously be difficult for them or maybe they can still hope for a playoff against Nantes who can still compete in the Europa League but I doubt that.

Now what they have to do is focus on preparing for next season properly, don't let something like this happen again in the future because their reputation will be further destroyed if they continue to cheat.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on February 08, 2023, 12:52:10 PM

At least that's what Juventus should be doing for the rest of the season. They have to make the most of every match to get points so they have chance to qualify for the Europa League, of course it's difficult but they have to try to do it because there are 51 points up for grabs for the rest of the season for Juventus.

I believe that Juventus will eventually fail to qualify for the Champions League because it is very difficult to expect the current top 4 teams to not be able to maintain their position. The best hope is Europa League or European Conference League Qualification, but of course the current 12 point gap is worrying.

Juventus this season have been unable to do anything even though they have won every game in points, they are still very far behind. to win first place or return to the top five requires a very extra struggle. Maybe this will be an important lesson for Juventus and prepare for a better strategy in next season's league matches.

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The horrible run continues for Milan and their next opponent is Torino in two days. The game is going to be played in San Siro. But I really can't see even any home game as an advantage for Milan.

Because we have seen a great example for it. Sassuolo demolished them by 5-2 a short time ago. Torino are placed right below Milan in the standings now. Technically I would expect this game to be even more challenging. But it is up to Milan's effort level as well of course. If they show some improvement on the field then Torino might not stand a chance. Otherwise I'd rather betting on both teams to score as I expect so.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 08, 2023, 01:52:36 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on February 08, 2023, 10:11:25 AM

The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them. Grin

Mathematically, this is unrealistic. This is far from 4-5 games. 4th place averages 65% of possible points, which is almost 2 points per game. So if Juventus play perfectly and always take three points and all other teams play as usual, then Juventus will need 13 games to get to fourth place. At 17 games it looks sort of possible, but I think you'll agree that it only looks realistic in theory.

Juventus for the 4th spot realistically looking not possible but still have chance for the 6th which is in hands if they keep going like this because now mentality level is also change and players are not feeling good which is also big concern for them but as AC Milan and Atlanta are also falling behind things can happen for them into better end of this season even with this deduction because still they have enough quality and performance is also in their control specially as Vlahovic perform he is key player for them in this season until end and now any injury can ruin them badly for having spot into top six which is also not bad at all in these circumstances Massimiliano Allegri is also coming as brave and fighter leader in these conditions which is also good advantage for them.

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Quote from: Google+ on February 08, 2023, 02:08:09 PM

That is the strength that Allegri can revive for Juventus players to be able to work hard and forget all the problems that have befallen them. Allegri is a figure who is able to make Juventus come back strong this season, either before Juventus is penalized or after being penalized by the FIGC.

No one really understands Juventus except Allegri, even after he got sacked couple years ago. And now when he is back, he able to rebuild this team again although they had rough start in the early of season. Going into UCL might be almost impossible for them, but the chance for UEL is quite big, which I'm sure they able to win against Inter in semifinal of Coppa Italia, which the cup winner secures a spot in UEL.

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