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Quote from: indah rezqi on February 08, 2023, 12:52:10 PM

At least that's what Juventus should be doing for the rest of the season. They have to make the most of every match to get points so they have chance to qualify for the Europa League, of course it's difficult but they have to try to do it because there are 51 points up for grabs for the rest of the season for Juventus.

I believe that Juventus will eventually fail to qualify for the Champions League because it is very difficult to expect the current top 4 teams to not be able to maintain their position. The best hope is Europa League or European Conference League Qualification, but of course the current 12 point gap is worrying.

Juventus this season have been unable to do anything even though they have won every game in points, they are still very far behind. to win first place or return to the top five requires a very extra struggle. Maybe this will be an important lesson for Juventus and prepare for a better strategy in next season's league matches.

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The horrible run continues for Milan and their next opponent is Torino in two days. The game is going to be played in San Siro. But I really can't see even any home game as an advantage for Milan.

Because we have seen a great example for it. Sassuolo demolished them by 5-2 a short time ago. Torino are placed right below Milan in the standings now. Technically I would expect this game to be even more challenging. But it is up to Milan's effort level as well of course. If they show some improvement on the field then Torino might not stand a chance. Otherwise I'd rather betting on both teams to score as I expect so.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 08, 2023, 01:52:36 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on February 08, 2023, 10:11:25 AM

The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them. Grin

Mathematically, this is unrealistic. This is far from 4-5 games. 4th place averages 65% of possible points, which is almost 2 points per game. So if Juventus play perfectly and always take three points and all other teams play as usual, then Juventus will need 13 games to get to fourth place. At 17 games it looks sort of possible, but I think you'll agree that it only looks realistic in theory.

Juventus for the 4th spot realistically looking not possible but still have chance for the 6th which is in hands if they keep going like this because now mentality level is also change and players are not feeling good which is also big concern for them but as AC Milan and Atlanta are also falling behind things can happen for them into better end of this season even with this deduction because still they have enough quality and performance is also in their control specially as Vlahovic perform he is key player for them in this season until end and now any injury can ruin them badly for having spot into top six which is also not bad at all in these circumstances Massimiliano Allegri is also coming as brave and fighter leader in these conditions which is also good advantage for them.

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That is the strength that Allegri can revive for Juventus players to be able to work hard and forget all the problems that have befallen them. Allegri is a figure who is able to make Juventus come back strong this season, either before Juventus is penalized or after being penalized by the FIGC.

No one really understands Juventus except Allegri, even after he got sacked couple years ago. And now when he is back, he able to rebuild this team again although they had rough start in the early of season. Going into UCL might be almost impossible for them, but the chance for UEL is quite big, which I'm sure they able to win against Inter in semifinal of Coppa Italia, which the cup winner secures a spot in UEL.

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Quote from: minime0105 on February 08, 2023, 12:44:14 PM

It was a happy moment yesterday seeing Juventus coasting to victory, despite that it is an expected victory as usual but we all know that Juventus has not been performing well in the recent time so their fans seeing them coming through in this match is a thing of joy, but consistency should come to play in this team unless they don't want to go far in the league table.

There is nothing we can expect from Juventus even if they win all the remaining matches I don't think it's enough to compete in Serie A, especially for Top 4
Juventus have to undergo this season without a target to reach the European League zone they are 12 points behind obviously it's not an easy situation

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Quote from: W Jr. on February 08, 2023, 01:32:05 PM

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Juventus are trying every chance to qualify for Europe, no matter how many points are deducted. The points difference with 6th placed Milan is now 12 and it's not a gap that can't be closed. There are about 17 weeks ahead of us and with a few more defeats they can close the gap and have a chance to compete in the European Cup.
The first match of the new week will be on Friday between Milan and Torino, it will be a tough match for Milan, they haven't won in many weeks and they will try their best to win this match.

It will be a difficult match for Milan as well. Torino is located just behind them. The probability of closing the 8-point gap between them and Torino is very difficult if we are realistic, but they will still want to beat Milan in terms of showing their strength. A tough Torino match awaits for Milan. If we are going to talk for Juventus, it is very important for them to continue their game without demoralizing.

Surely a difficult match for the home side as AC Milan is struggling badly and Torino is having better performance with 8 points from last five games and AC Milan is having just 2 points from their last five games with 3 matches losing streak which are clearly indicating things are not easy for them, and they are falling down like crap with good advantage for them against Torino as they never lost in Serie A game against them in last few years, but now this time look like things are going to change, and we are going to cut this difference between these two teams which is standing right now at eight.

Milan and Pioli needs to change their strategy from this match because now things are crucial, and they can take charge before this gone in deep trouble for them and their chances for staying into top ranks.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on February 08, 2023, 02:08:25 PM

It was clear that it was a good victory for Massimiliano Allegri's men. Juventus really have to win every game if they still want to improve their position in the standings. Things are never going well after they picked up penalty points this season, but his efforts to win games and finish the season well is to be expected.

Currently, Juventus are still in 10th place in the Serie A standings in 21 matches. Juventus have won 12 out of 21 matches, while they have only lost 4 and drawn 5. I think there is a chance for Juventus to end the season in 4th, 5th or 6th place, but it just really depends on the performance of the other teams who currently have point advantage over Juventus.

in the next match Juventus will face fiorentina. With their previous capital of winning a big win over Salernitana, I think Vlahovic et al will be able to make Juventus progress in a better direction. indeed, as you said, Juventus had to work quite hard this season because a reduction of 15 points knocked Juventus out of the top 4. whereas previously Juventus was ranked 2nd before the punishment was given to them.

But if you look at the points from the 4th ranked team, namely Lazio, of course the difference in points with Juventus is very far, namely 13 points. I think it will be difficult for Juventus to return to the top 4 this season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 08, 2023, 11:53:46 AM

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I think, Juventus have more opportunity to win this match than Salernitana because they are in the 13 position in the Italian league table which will be one of the advantage Juventus will use to achieve many goals from the match. I don't think, Juventus will miss this opportunity because Salernitana defenders cannot stop Juventus strikers not to have access to their goalpost and it will be difficult for the match to end up draw 0-0. I believe, Juventus will defeat Salernitana 3-1 for the favour of Juventus to move higher in the Italian league table.

You were quite close to the final score with your prediction. Vlahovic took a big responsibility in this game and we have seen its effect in a great way. He scored 2 goals and made an assist as well. I wasn't expecting this much comfortable victory after seeing that shocking Monza loss. I really appreciate this big effort by Juventus players.

Salernitana were horrible at finding the target and couldn't create a big threat to Juventus as a result. Maybe this is not much for Juventus but it might improve their morale at least.

Juventus's fans were desperate for performance like this from Vlahovic and now with two goals and one assist look like he is going to fight for the best in this season with penalize team and hopes are high for them as they keep consistency they will be in better shape and have good chance for staying high even punishment is hard, and now their chances are not high for the top six but still they have good ability under leadership of Allegri and performance like this can bring them to better spot, and they can take good honour after the end of this season which is surely going to be important for them.

Salernitana was surely not near the quality of the Juventus which was surely a big advantage for the visitors, and now they have time to bring better performance in coming days with next match is against Fiorentina which is also in bad shape from the start of this season.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on February 08, 2023, 12:40:47 AM

Juventus can only be seen as a team with improved performance as you said if they stand against a big team and defeat them just like they did in this game against Salernitana. Their defeat to Napoli was not surprising at all because Napoli this season is in very good shape and ready to beat any team they play against and that of Monza could be likened to a result of the shock due to the recent happening in the team which has affected their motivation and playing pattern, yes, I think they have been able to shake that off and they have been seen with a good performance and a good goal scoring spirit I believe they will go up again before the end of the season if they keep winning more games in the league.

Obviously they will be at a good position when the season is over, but they are not going to be where they could be, and for some financial "crime" as well, which is insane if you think about it. In any case, this year wasn't the year for them, Napoli is having a great year and they are going to win the title, and I think it's obvious that Juventus will not end up with anything good.

This is why they need to start focusing on next year and what they can do about it, fire the players they no longer need, like Pogba, and try to scout players that could help them for cheaper and be better team next season. They can lose as much as they want and just focus on staying in the league.

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Lazio v Atalanta is going to be a really competitive match next time. Lazio are favoured but the gap is not very big according to bookmakers. Lazio's odd is 2.30 now and it seems quite favourable to me. While Lazio are one of the best home teams it is the same for Atalanta as for away matches. There is an interesting statistics about the match history between these teams as well. Lazio couldn't get a win in a home match against Atalanta in their last five meets.

Considering all that it is really difficult for me to believe in Lazio to win. Instead I'm thinking of placing a bet on BTTS.

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Quote from: nara1892 on February 08, 2023, 12:52:06 PM

Quote from: hahay on February 08, 2023, 12:08:49 PM

Well, Juventus had indeed been projected to win and even though Juventus could win big with a score of 3-0. But for me the big win that Juventus got in this match doesn't look special, because Juventus' performance is still inconsistent, so I don't think there's anything special about yesterday's big win.

But even so, I also hope that Juventus can remain consistent in this bad moment because after all, they still have a chance to finish in the top six and or maybe even higher. But yes, even though Juventus are in trouble in Serie A at this moment, I hope this incident doesn't make Juventus worse off.

Even though it doesn't look special, this victory is important for Juventus to increase the morality of the players who feel something uncomfortable by receiving sanctions. They are still inconsistent I agree with that, but if they didn't get penalized they would still be at the top right now, and not have to be standing where they are.
Even though it is very difficult, they still have a great chance to be back in a position at least in the top 5 in the standings, so they cannot give up what they have experienced.

Yes, if Juventus don't get punished then of course Juventus will be a serious team in competing for the title. But with Juventus getting punished, it looks like it will also be a smooth road for Napoli because there is no longer a team that seriously threatens their position at the top of the standings.
But in terms of Juventus, if Juventus manage to finish in the top five or at least in the top six, for me that is already a great achievement and I hope Juventus can do that and start again to get points in every game.

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Quote from: minime0105 on February 08, 2023, 12:44:14 PM

It was a happy moment yesterday seeing Juventus coasting to victory, despite that it is an expected victory as usual but we all know that Juventus has not been performing well in the recent time so their fans seeing them coming through in this match is a thing of joy, but consistency should come to play in this team unless they don't want to go far in the league table.

It was clear that it was a good victory for Massimiliano Allegri's men. Juventus really have to win every game if they still want to improve their position in the standings. Things are never going well after they picked up penalty points this season, but his efforts to win games and finish the season well is to be expected.

Currently, Juventus are still in 10th place in the Serie A standings in 21 matches. Juventus have won 12 out of 21 matches, while they have only lost 4 and drawn 5. I think there is a chance for Juventus to end the season in 4th, 5th or 6th place, but it just really depends on the performance of the other teams who currently have point advantage over Juventus.

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Quote from: Zilon on February 08, 2023, 11:23:52 AM

15 point deduction is enough to destabilise a team emotionally, psychologically and mentally but am glad they are still able to find the back of the net afterwards. 10th place in the Italian Serie A with 17 matches left and consistent win can bring Juventus back to top 5 before the end of the season after all Lazio who climbed to top 4 when Juventus were sent to the bottom is not doing so much to remain in the top 4 a replacement is possible and Juve can still climb back.

Selernitana might not be tough for Juventus to win but winning them with such goal difference can boast their moral to do even better than they did at their early games in the season. If only they can keep their winning ways consistent they will make their fans happy again

That is the strength that Allegri can revive for Juventus players to be able to work hard and forget all the problems that have befallen them. Allegri is a figure who is able to make Juventus come back strong this season, either before Juventus is penalized or after being penalized by the FIGC

Vlahovic, who was absent for a long time in scoring goals, but in the match against selernitana he was able to contribute 2 goals which made his statistics have scored 8 goals so far. Even the latest issue of Vlahovic is being targeted by Manchester United in the next season's transfer window.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on February 08, 2023, 06:14:29 AM

Due to recent ancident with Juventus by deducting 15 points in league table really effect the fans sentiment also player too now after winning this sensational match with 3:0 by scoring twice goal of D. Vlahović and single goal of F. Kostić boost the moral of player as well as give hug joys to fans because after that victory they got 10th position in league standings, now the Juventus seems like they will unable to qualify for UEFA Champions league next year if they lose more matches, still Juventus are 16 points away from 3rd position.hope they will manage to get them.

Do you still believe they can come back with the rest of the season's games to the UCL zone? I think it's difficult, the psychological pressure of the Juventus players at the moment is really heavy. This was seen in the last few games. They played poorly. Although in the last two games they can win. The teams that compete with them are the ones that are at the bottom of the rankings. They won against Lazio in the Italian Super cup and they will take on Inter in the semi-finals.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 08, 2023, 01:52:36 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on February 08, 2023, 10:11:25 AM

The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them. Grin

Mathematically, this is unrealistic. This is far from 4-5 games. 4th place averages 65% of possible points, which is almost 2 points per game. So if Juventus play perfectly and always take three points and all other teams play as usual, then Juventus will need 13 games to get to fourth place. At 17 games it looks sort of possible, but I think you'll agree that it only looks realistic in theory.

Yes, it's just a matter of calculating the odds, which are certainly very different from what happens in the field. But if Juventus can wipe out all the remaining games they have then they will be in I think. But can they do that? to be honest personally I doubt they will be able to get a perfect win from the 17 matches they played.

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Quote from: panjul07 on February 08, 2023, 10:11:25 AM

The gap to the last spot for Champions League is 13 points, 12 points for the Europa League, or mathematically it is about 4-5 matches win.
With the fact that there are still 17 matches to go, mathematically Juventus is still having the chance to catch the position but ofc it is hard.
What Juventus need to do now is to try to win all the remaining 17 matches and hoping for the other team above their current position losing many points.
It is not impossible to happen but really hard to happen unless there will be miracles for them. Grin

Mathematically, this is unrealistic. This is far from 4-5 games. 4th place averages 65% of possible points, which is almost 2 points per game. So if Juventus play perfectly and always take three points and all other teams play as usual, then Juventus will need 13 games to get to fourth place. At 17 games it looks sort of possible, but I think you'll agree that it only looks realistic in theory.

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Quote from: W Jr. on February 08, 2023, 01:32:05 PM

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Juventus are trying every chance to qualify for Europe, no matter how many points are deducted. The points difference with 6th placed Milan is now 12 and it's not a gap that can't be closed. There are about 17 weeks ahead of us and with a few more defeats they can close the gap and have a chance to compete in the European Cup.
The first match of the new week will be on Friday between Milan and Torino, it will be a tough match for Milan, they haven't won in many weeks and they will try their best to win this match.

It will be a difficult match for Milan as well. Torino is located just behind them. The probability of closing the 8-point gap between them and Torino is very difficult if we are realistic, but they will still want to beat Milan in terms of showing their strength. A tough Torino match awaits for Milan. If we are going to talk for Juventus, it is very important for them to continue their game without demoralizing.

Juventus are not in a bad situation even with so many points deducted. I hope they will recover. With a winning streak, they could have another good start. Milan, on the other hand, have to win now. They were also doing well but I have to say again that they are on a very bad streak of defeats and point losses.
Looking at the other matches, I see the important match of the week as lazio-atalanta. I wonder who will win in this match between two strong teams.

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Quote from: execijutiere on February 08, 2023, 12:40:35 PM

Juventus are trying every chance to qualify for Europe, no matter how many points are deducted. The points difference with 6th placed Milan is now 12 and it's not a gap that can't be closed. There are about 17 weeks ahead of us and with a few more defeats they can close the gap and have a chance to compete in the European Cup.
The first match of the new week will be on Friday between Milan and Torino, it will be a tough match for Milan, they haven't won in many weeks and they will try their best to win this match.

It will be a difficult match for Milan as well. Torino is located just behind them. The probability of closing the 8-point gap between them and Torino is very difficult if we are realistic, but they will still want to beat Milan in terms of showing their strength. A tough Torino match awaits for Milan. If we are going to talk for Juventus, it is very important for them to continue their game without demoralizing.

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Quote from: execijutiere on February 08, 2023, 12:40:35 PM

Juventus are trying every chance to qualify for Europe, no matter how many points are deducted. The points difference with 6th placed Milan is now 12 and it's not a gap that can't be closed. There are about 17 weeks ahead of us and with a few more defeats they can close the gap and have a chance to compete in the European Cup.
The first match of the new week will be on Friday between Milan and Torino, it will be a tough match for Milan, they haven't won in many weeks and they will try their best to win this match.

At least that's what Juventus should be doing for the rest of the season. They have to make the most of every match to get points so they have chance to qualify for the Europa League, of course it's difficult but they have to try to do it because there are 51 points up for grabs for the rest of the season for Juventus.

I believe that Juventus will eventually fail to qualify for the Champions League because it is very difficult to expect the current top 4 teams to not be able to maintain their position. The best hope is Europa League or European Conference League Qualification, but of course the current 12 point gap is worrying.

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Quote from: hahay on February 08, 2023, 12:08:49 PM

Well, Juventus had indeed been projected to win and even though Juventus could win big with a score of 3-0. But for me the big win that Juventus got in this match doesn't look special, because Juventus' performance is still inconsistent, so I don't think there's anything special about yesterday's big win.

But even so, I also hope that Juventus can remain consistent in this bad moment because after all, they still have a chance to finish in the top six and or maybe even higher. But yes, even though Juventus are in trouble in Serie A at this moment, I hope this incident doesn't make Juventus worse off.

Even though it doesn't look special, this victory is important for Juventus to increase the morality of the players who feel something uncomfortable by receiving sanctions. They are still inconsistent I agree with that, but if they didn't get penalized they would still be at the top right now, and not have to be standing where they are.
Even though it is very difficult, they still have a great chance to be back in a position at least in the top 5 in the standings, so they cannot give up what they have experienced.

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