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Quote from: emrecemsan on December 23, 2022, 12:30:40 PM

Zidane would cost Juventus too much money even if the rumours turn out to be true. Because before anything else his salary would be really high. Even Graham Potter has signed a huge deal with Chelsea so I can't even imagine Zidane's cost of returning to club management. Aside from his salary, Juventus' current squad wouldn't be enough for Zidane to reach their and his targets with the club. I think they still have serious weaknesses in some positions despite their good form in the Serie A lately.

Zidane would like to make new signings and I don't know if Juventus can spend that much money these days. Because as far as I know their finance is not in good condition now.

Money isn't a problem for Juventus.
The problem is if they wanna spend the money.

The holding of Juventus is quite rich.

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It is rumored that Juvntus will exit from Stock market in 2023 so after that they can spend whatever they want.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 23, 2022, 02:11:52 PM

Atalanta have been in a miserable position for many weeks in the league. They have lost so many games in the recent times. I think this break must be enough for them to collect themselves. They have a Spezia game up next and I don't expect any mistakes from Atalanta in this one. There have been some times they lost against smaller teams recently.

However they have a strong lineup to make up for these bad results. They are looking worse than the previous season for now. Because they dropped down from the title race much later in the previous season. But this time maybe the scenario can be the other way around. But I don't know if they can enter any title race even if they improve their game.

At the start of the season they went well and I am very happy with that, but over time their performance has actually decreased and this is not too different from last season even though if you look at their conditions they should be now still quite superior because their main focus is only Serie A .
It would be a shame if Atalanta returned to the same condition as last season even though they are dark horses which, even though they are not too favorite, but they always surprise.

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Quote from: MuffinMaster on December 23, 2022, 01:52:43 PM

Really surprised to see Napoli lose their first friendly after the World Cup. The match did not show any signs of the kind of excellent performance they had before the World Cup. Hope they will come back in the next match.

Friendly matches are sometimes matches where the players are not serious and play more casually because there is no stress in the final result. they only play to recover their fitness and many of them do it for charity. I wouldn't be surprised if Napoli lost to a weak team or a team from another league. Napoli will be awaited by Inter Milan in the 16th match of this season. this is exactly what spalletti has to think about where this match is a big match which allows them to have difficulty getting 3 points. inter milan has a good trend of playing at home and they will give or break napoli's winning trend this season, this game is definitely worth watching.

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Atalanta have been in a miserable position for many weeks in the league. They have lost so many games in the recent times. I think this break must be enough for them to collect themselves. They have a Spezia game up next and I don't expect any mistakes from Atalanta in this one. There have been some times they lost against smaller teams recently.

However they have a strong lineup to make up for these bad results. They are looking worse than the previous season for now. Because they dropped down from the title race much later in the previous season. But this time maybe the scenario can be the other way around. But I don't know if they can enter any title race even if they improve their game.

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Unknowingly this is a defeat that several clubs in Serie A might want, Napoli has started to falter and it seems that several Serie A clubs will be ready to destroy their winning streak. If Napoli doesn't immediately improve the performance of the players, this will be an opportunity for their opponents to steal points when the league season has restarted.

Are you talking about those few defeats in friendly matches? I would not even take them into account, since the results of these matches do not reflect the real shape of teams are now. Napoli maintains an 8-point lead over Milan, the advantage is more than confident, and in Serie A, Napoli have a great winning streak, so there is nothing to worry about, so far everything is fine.

Really surprised to see Napoli lose their first friendly after the World Cup. The match did not show any signs of the kind of excellent performance they had before the World Cup. Hope they will come back in the next match.

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Zidane would cost Juventus too much money even if the rumours turn out to be true. Because before anything else his salary would be really high. Even Graham Potter has signed a huge deal with Chelsea so I can't even imagine Zidane's cost of returning to club management. Aside from his salary, Juventus' current squad wouldn't be enough for Zidane to reach their and his targets with the club. I think they still have serious weaknesses in some positions despite their good form in the Serie A lately.

Zidane would like to make new signings and I don't know if Juventus can spend that much money these days. Because as far as I know their finance is not in good condition now.

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Quote from: masulum on December 23, 2022, 11:15:57 AM

Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 23, 2022, 04:45:25 AM

I have not seen any news that Zidane will coach Juventus. There is no doubt that Zidane is an experienced coach. He is an excellent coach. But he is interested in being the coach of a team like Juventus? Earlier I heard rumors that Zidane was offered by PSG to become coach, but Zidane withdrew PSG's offer. I don't think Zidane would be interested in taking charge of a team as unstable as Juventus right now.

Asriloni is right, the article that i found is that, there not mentioned will joined Juventus, only making juventus as options. However, some of local media here already mentioned if Zidane close to Juventus* ^{(article in Indonesian)}. Thats why, i asked community here, maybe I missed something about this news, since the rumors not become a trend so far. We never know, he need a job, if in the past he was refused offer from PSG, maybe he can accept Juventus offer at this time, since with Juventus, he can manage team from bad positions to be a champion again.

I also don't know if Zinédine Zidane is interested in returning to coaching in the near future or not. Since the last I knew he chose to take a temporary break from his coaching career. I heard that Zinédine Zidane has been linked with coaching several clubs, Paris Saint Germain and now Juventus, even the French national team is rumored to be held by Zinédine Zidane. Meanwhile, Zinédine Zidane has not confirmed any rumors linking his name. I even saw that he didn't respond to the rumors at all.
He is indeed a very good coach, so it is only natural that his name is associated with clubs that are not in good condition, of course this is nothing but to improve their performance in the game.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 23, 2022, 10:59:32 AM

Unknowingly this is a defeat that several clubs in Serie A might want, Napoli has started to falter and it seems that several Serie A clubs will be ready to destroy their winning streak. If Napoli doesn't immediately improve the performance of the players, this will be an opportunity for their opponents to steal points when the league season has restarted.

Are you talking about those few defeats in friendly matches? I would not even take them into account, since the results of these matches do not reflect the real shape of teams are now. Napoli maintains an 8-point lead over Milan, the advantage is more than confident, and in Serie A, Napoli have a great winning streak, so there is nothing to worry about, so far everything is fine.

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Quote from: Ratash on December 23, 2022, 08:51:24 AM

Napoli team lost the second friendly game in a row and this time against lille, even if its a friendly game it seems there is a problem that need fixing, when the serie A resume there is an important game for them and its a crucial one if they perform this poorly they will certainly lose to inter, but still so far they did an amazing job especially after changing many players and most of them are inexperienced and did not play in such high level before.

I do not think that there is any point in paying attention to the results of friendly games. Compare the results of the French team in the League of Nations (which most teams refer to as a tournament consisting of friendly games) and in the World Cup - the difference is obvious. I think Napoli are still as dangerous as they were at the beginning of the season + Inter still have the same problems so I don't think Inter will be the favorite in this game.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on December 23, 2022, 02:12:36 AM

It seems that of all the matches that will be held in Week 16, only the Napoli vs Inter match is the most talked about. Meanwhile, other matches, such as Milan vs. Salernitana, Roma vs. Bologna, and Juventus vs. Cremonese, were not much talked about. maybe because we think that the opponents that will be faced by Milan, Roma and Juventus don't seem too favored. and we probably almost all agree that in that match Juventus, Milan and Roma will be far superior. But because this Season has just restarted after a break. I hope we are all not caught off guard by the possible surprises that are about to happen.

I do not think that any of those games will have anything that is a shocking result. It will be favourites that win that game. The "fun" part about the Napoli vs Inter is the fact that Inter lost games and not ranked high, whereas Napoli hasn't lost a single game yet and they are at the top with some huge points to give, and yet the odds are looking like house favours Inter over Napoli to win this game.

That makes this game so fun, if you look at other games the favourites have better odds, but when you look at Napoli the team that is leading the league having worse odds than it means this will be talked a lot more until the game starts and ends.

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 23, 2022, 04:45:25 AM

I have not seen any news that Zidane will coach Juventus. There is no doubt that Zidane is an experienced coach. He is an excellent coach. But he is interested in being the coach of a team like Juventus? Earlier I heard rumors that Zidane was offered by PSG to become coach, but Zidane withdrew PSG's offer. I don't think Zidane would be interested in taking charge of a team as unstable as Juventus right now.

Asriloni is right, the article that i found is that, there not mentioned will joined Juventus, only making juventus as options. However, some of local media here already mentioned if Zidane close to Juventus* ^{(article in Indonesian)}. Thats why, i asked community here, maybe I missed something about this news, since the rumors not become a trend so far. We never know, he need a job, if in the past he was refused offer from PSG, maybe he can accept Juventus offer at this time, since with Juventus, he can manage team from bad positions to be a champion again.

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Quote from: Warkop on December 23, 2022, 10:29:03 AM

Quote from: keyscore44 on December 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM

Quote from: Ratash on December 23, 2022, 08:51:24 AM

Napoli team lost the second friendly game in a row and this time against lille, even if its a friendly game it seems there is a problem that need fixing, when the serie A resume there is an important game for them and its a crucial one if they perform this poorly they will certainly lose to inter, but still so far they did an amazing job especially after changing many players and most of them are inexperienced and did not play in such high level before.

Napoli lost 4-1 which is bad for their team, although the match was a friendly then a victory in this match would have boosted the confidence of all the players in the team. Which greatly encouraged the players in the subsequent matches.

Napoli's difficulties in the test match made Napoli only get goals in extra time, of course that made a bad record for them, where Napoli is a club above the LOSC club, this is unacceptable considering that the competitive season will start again, considering that Napoli is at the top of the Sire A League this season, if that continues to happen then Napoli will likely lose their position at the top of the standings.

Unknowingly this is a defeat that several clubs in Serie A might want, Napoli has started to falter and it seems that several Serie A clubs will be ready to destroy their winning streak. If Napoli doesn't immediately improve the performance of the players, this will be an opportunity for their opponents to steal points when the league season has restarted.

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Quote from: Warkop on December 23, 2022, 10:29:03 AM

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Quote from: Ratash on December 23, 2022, 08:51:24 AM

Napoli team lost the second friendly game in a row and this time against lille, even if its a friendly game it seems there is a problem that need fixing, when the serie A resume there is an important game for them and its a crucial one if they perform this poorly they will certainly lose to inter, but still so far they did an amazing job especially after changing many players and most of them are inexperienced and did not play in such high level before.

Napoli lost 4-1 which is bad for their team, although the match was a friendly then a victory in this match would have boosted the confidence of all the players in the team. Which greatly encouraged the players in the subsequent matches.

Napoli's difficulties in the test match made Napoli only get goals in extra time, of course that made a bad record for them, where Napoli is a club above the LOSC club, this is unacceptable considering that the competitive season will start again, considering that Napoli is at the top of the Sire A League this season, if that continues to happen then Napoli will likely lose their position at the top of the standings.

I think friendly matches cannot be used as a benchmark to increase their morale because after all, friendly matches are just matches to try different strategies with different players. That is, when they return to play for matches in Serie A then of course Napoli will play the main players, so of course the results will be different too.
If friendly matches can get them to win a title, then of course they will also continue to play as they should.

Because with this friendly match, of course, it can be an arena for young players or reserve players to show their quality, but if they are still having trouble getting good results then of course these second tier players will find it difficult to get a place to play in official tournaments.
So yes, friendly matches for me, whatever results they get, it still won't affect their performance to then play in official competitions in Serie A and also the Champions League and other official tournaments. Because even when they play in official competitions like the Coppa Italia, sometimes they only play second-tier players, so there are always differences in the composition of the players and also the strategy applied.

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Quote from: judas on December 23, 2022, 10:20:51 AM

I think Inter are one of the numbered teams in the league which can cause trouble for Napoli. Because their strength in offense has been really impressive until now. They have had serious issues in defense though but hopefully Inzaghi will create a solution for that. I don't know how strong Lukaku would return after seeing his bad performance at Belgium. But even if he doesn't play well the rest of the team can still be productive just as they have done so far in the absence of him.

I don't want to be seen like I'm favouring Inter for the title or something like that. I'd also like to see a different champion like Napoli. However if they finish the season early by opening the gap even more in a short time then the league would be a little boring in the remaining weeks to me.

Anyone can disturb Napoli's concentration in playing, not only Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus also have the same opportunity to put pressure on Napoli, so that their concentration can be disturbed and slip in the next few matches. This will actually look more attractive in the race for the Scudetto for the 2022-2023 season. However, Nopoli's consistency seems to be dominant enough that several strong clubs really need to be able to suppress them.

Inter Milan won big wins in every game in the first half of the season, at least in almost all the games they played they were always able to score two or more goals. This means that they have no problems in attacking positions, but what needs to be evaluated is the defense and midfield sectors, because in my opinion these two positions are still a problem for Inter Milan.

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Quote from: Warkop on December 23, 2022, 10:29:03 AM

Quote from: keyscore44 on December 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM

Quote from: Ratash on December 23, 2022, 08:51:24 AM

Napoli team lost the second friendly game in a row and this time against lille, even if its a friendly game it seems there is a problem that need fixing, when the serie A resume there is an important game for them and its a crucial one if they perform this poorly they will certainly lose to inter, but still so far they did an amazing job especially after changing many players and most of them are inexperienced and did not play in such high level before.

Napoli lost 4-1 which is bad for their team, although the match was a friendly then a victory in this match would have boosted the confidence of all the players in the team. Which greatly encouraged the players in the subsequent matches.

Napoli's difficulties in the test match made Napoli only get goals in extra time, of course that made a bad record for them, where Napoli is a club above the LOSC club, this is unacceptable considering that the competitive season will start again, considering that Napoli is at the top of the Sire A League this season, if that continues to happen then Napoli will likely lose their position at the top of the standings.

I'm happy Napoli lost against Lille. Because Napoli has been defeated by a huge margin in this match. And by being defeated, they realized their mistakes very well. The teams got a long break for the World Cup. So the bonding between team players may have weakened a bit. In the midst of losing this match, Napoli's coach was able to identify the weaknesses of his team. And I think they can correct their mistakes and strengthen themselves before the start of the season. Napoli will not lose the top spot in Serie A so quickly.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM

Quote from: Ratash on December 23, 2022, 08:51:24 AM

Napoli team lost the second friendly game in a row and this time against lille, even if its a friendly game it seems there is a problem that need fixing, when the serie A resume there is an important game for them and its a crucial one if they perform this poorly they will certainly lose to inter, but still so far they did an amazing job especially after changing many players and most of them are inexperienced and did not play in such high level before.

Napoli lost 4-1 which is bad for their team, although the match was a friendly then a victory in this match would have boosted the confidence of all the players in the team. Which greatly encouraged the players in the subsequent matches.

Maybe spalletti was trying something different against LOSC. I hope that spalletti will not even do that in the match against intermilan. I saw the line up and there would be no a lot of change from napoli. Some main players were still playing at that match.
That makes napoli may become under rated team or mentally affected due to the friendly match. I think that even when napoli plays with new formation by spalletti and it might not lose against LOSC
Im sure that it was affecting the mentality from players even though that would not be so harsh.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM

Quote from: Ratash on December 23, 2022, 08:51:24 AM

Napoli team lost the second friendly game in a row and this time against lille, even if its a friendly game it seems there is a problem that need fixing, when the serie A resume there is an important game for them and its a crucial one if they perform this poorly they will certainly lose to inter, but still so far they did an amazing job especially after changing many players and most of them are inexperienced and did not play in such high level before.

Napoli lost 4-1 which is bad for their team, although the match was a friendly then a victory in this match would have boosted the confidence of all the players in the team. Which greatly encouraged the players in the subsequent matches.

Napoli's difficulties in the test match made Napoli only get goals in extra time, of course that made a bad record for them, where Napoli is a club above the LOSC club, this is unacceptable considering that the competitive season will start again, considering that Napoli is at the top of the Sire A League this season, if that continues to happen then Napoli will likely lose their position at the top of the standings.

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I think Inter are one of the numbered teams in the league which can cause trouble for Napoli. Because their strength in offense has been really impressive until now. They have had serious issues in defense though but hopefully Inzaghi will create a solution for that. I don't know how strong Lukaku would return after seeing his bad performance at Belgium. But even if he doesn't play well the rest of the team can still be productive just as they have done so far in the absence of him.

I don't want to be seen like I'm favouring Inter for the title or something like that. I'd also like to see a different champion like Napoli. However if they finish the season early by opening the gap even more in a short time then the league would be a little boring in the remaining weeks to me.

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Quote from: Z-tight on December 23, 2022, 10:06:33 AM

Quote from: keyscore44 on December 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM

Napoli lost 4-1 which is bad for their team, although the match was a friendly then a victory in this match would have boosted the confidence of all the players in the team. Which greatly encouraged the players in the subsequent matches.

Losing in a friendly game isn't bad for any team, it is better to lose in a friendly game than to lose in a competitive game, so Napoli would not care about this defeat to Lille, it means nothing. Napoli are already filled with confidence because of how they have played so far this season, winning games and scoring many goals, i am sure the players would be ready once the league games start again, what they have achieved so far is enough to boost their confidence. Napoli have been so good that everyone is now looking for something that may possibly cause their form to drop, but this loss to Lille isn't it, and i expect them to increase the advantage they have at the top of the seria a, and win the league with many matches remaining.

Maybe they kept their strength, so they lost this match. I agree with you, that a friendly match cannot be used as a benchmark that they have decreased. From the match entitled "friendship" we have also assessed what this match meant. I also often see that big teams can lose their friendly matches, especially on the tour they do, they even lose to a team from a country they visit on that tour. So don't be surprised if a team that is considered strong can lose a friendly match.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM

Napoli lost 4-1 which is bad for their team, although the match was a friendly then a victory in this match would have boosted the confidence of all the players in the team. Which greatly encouraged the players in the subsequent matches.

Losing in a friendly game isn't bad for any team, it is better to lose in a friendly game than to lose in a competitive game, so Napoli would not care about this defeat to Lille, it means nothing. Napoli are already filled with confidence because of how they have played so far this season, winning games and scoring many goals, i am sure the players would be ready once the league games start again, what they have achieved so far is enough to boost their confidence. Napoli have been so good that everyone is now looking for something that may possibly cause their form to drop, but this loss to Lille isn't it, and i expect them to increase the advantage they have at the top of the seria a, and win the league with many matches remaining.

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