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Quote from: X-ray on November 10, 2024, 12:36:53 PM

https://www.asroma.com/en/news/72277/club-statement

You know guys, what i have expected is finally coming. It's official Roma has sacked Juric. This is also becoming their 3rd sacking in this year. The decision taken after they lost 2-3 against Bologna and i think they do the right thing to save the club from going down to the relegation zone. Cheesy

The thing that surprised is that they don't even have a new coach ready to replace Juric. It's a perfect ending to the their shitshow under Juric. I hope they will reconsider a good name such as Allegri and Sarri. Cheesy

It's not surprising because sooner or later it looks like Juric will be fired because the bad results that AS Roma continue to get can no longer be tolerated. So it's no surprise that Juric has been fired.. That's very sad. As Roma made the mistake of firing De Rossi too quickly and they replaced him with a coach who was actually not much better than De Rossi. And now we don't know who will replace the coach there. However, one thing that is certain is that I am not sure that AS Roma will bring in a coach with a high reputation. Because it seems like they are bringing in more trainers at less expensive costs.

I think that with AS Roma's current condition which is quite sad, the new coach who is brought in must be a coach who has experience in handling a team that is in decline and has succeeded in fixing it quickly. Or AS Roma should look for a coach who is used to handling ordinary teams with ordinary players but produces good performances.

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Based on the performance of Fiorentina and Atalanta this season, the possibility of them defeating each of their opponents on matchday 12 should be more optimal. because they must also be chasing that position.

Yes, everything chance can happen, both so far are good in the last 5 matches, but we don't underestimate Udinese and Verona. the competition is getting tougher now, Verona are try not to be lose to avoid degradation zone, while Udinese have to spirit to come back to top standing after lose 2 matches on the row.

And now the position has really changed because the result of the Inter vs Napoli match which drew 1 - 1, this is a very balanced result considering how both of them performed, they are top clubs in Serie A and compete with each other. And now Napoli remains in first place, and Inter, in the end had to drop to 4th place, because both Atalanta and Fiorentina got a full 3 points victory. Serie A is really getting tighter and the match is interesting.

And more interetsing is that the point gaps among the clubs are very small.

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Quote from: X-ray on November 10, 2024, 12:36:53 PM

https://www.asroma.com/en/news/72277/club-statement

You know guys, what i have expected is finally coming. It's official Roma has sacked Juric. This is also becoming their 3rd sacking in this year. The decision taken after they lost 2-3 against Bologna and i think they do the right thing to save the club from going down to the relegation zone. Cheesy

The thing that surprised is that they don't even have a new coach ready to replace Juric. It's a perfect ending to the their shitshow under Juric. I hope they will reconsider a good name such as Allegri and Sarri. Cheesy

12 games and only had 3 wins

Roma's management made a mistake when they signed Juric. They knew very well that Juric had not achieved many great achievements in Serie A, so it doesn't make much sense to create high expectations about Juric. At least in terms of winning the title. Roma also lost good players this season like Lukaku and Tammy Abraham and I don't see them bringing in good players capable of filling Tammy Abraham and Lukaku shoes. Honestly, Roma needs a new management. It's not normal to do things like that. During Mourinho's time, they preferred to bring in good players on loan instead of buying them. They also didn't improve the squad. I can't understand how the management wants to achieve things when they don't hire a good coach and don't make good signings.

Allegri would be a good option to prevent Roma from being relegated because he really likes to fortify the defense, but if they are going to fight for the title next season, then Allegri would be a bad option.

Sarri would be a good long-term option if Roma's management simply aren't looking to win the title next season.

This season Roma has indeed performed less convincingly, and last night's match when Roma faced Bologna, was quite an important match for Ivan Juric because it concerned his coaching career at AS Roma. Ivan Juric failed to win this match, a 3-2 home defeat against Bologna, apparently made the club management furious, this defeat really became the peak of the club management's annoyance towards Ivan Juric. until finally the club terminated its contract with Ivan Juric.

It may still be too early to judge how Ivan Juric coaches AS Roma. but seeing the less than satisfactory results in Serie A and in the Europa League, this really makes the club management sick of seeing Ivan Juric.

And regarding Allegri, maybe with a series of his failures he will be able to bring Roma in a better direction, but it is impossible for Allegri to leave Juventus before his contract ends in June 2025. and so does Sarri. However, to catch up and improve its position, the club must immediately find the right coach.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 10, 2024, 05:49:54 PM

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So, the first half was almost over and Napoli was going for the surprise but 2 minutes before the break Inter managed to score:

I would say a rather disappointing Inter, I would have expected them to be more fierce since they are facing a team with a different style that would have played nice with relentless attacking, but, anyhow, whoever picked BTTS or over 2.5 probably has this in the bag.

Before coming into the weekend, Napoli and Inter Milan were the top two teams in the Italian Serie A standings so I wasn't surprised that ended the game in stalemate. As far as this season is concerned, Inter Milan vs Napoli game today was the most crucial so far and both teams didn't fail to put out their best in the game. The biggest benefactor of the result of the game was Atalanta who won their own game to move to second position in the league and just one point behind league leaders Napoli

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Quote from: stompix on November 10, 2024, 03:32:15 PM

So, the first half was almost over and Napoli was going for the surprise but 2 minutes before the break Inter managed to score:

I would say a rather disappointing Inter, I would have expected them to be more fierce since they are facing a team with a different style that would have played nice with relentless attacking, but, anyhow, whoever picked BTTS or over 2.5 probably has this in the bag.

It ended with the 1-1 scoreline and neither of both teams were able to win but they had to share equal points atge end of the day, well like I have mentioned much earlier in one of my replies, I'm not expecting any of both teams to win, but I believe they are both going to get a goal in this game and interestingly it played out as I had expected. Over 2.5 was lost actually, the game had just tao goals meanwhile over 2.5 was supposed to be a minimum of two goals and above.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2024, 05:00:34 PM

1-1 between Napoli and Inter.
The lead of Serie A has never been so uncrtain in the last decade.

We have 6 teams in 2 points.
After the comingback from the NAtional teams break we will have another big game.

Milan Juventus incoming and if Milan will not win it will be out form the possibility of winning.

Seriously it’s been a very long time we have such a competitive Seria A season, after 12 games already we have five clubs been separated with just 1 point and Juventus on the 6th with two points. In the past few season like the season Inter Milan and Napoli won it they were simply Miles ahead from the starting of the season but right now the clubs are all close which is interesting to me.

Personally I don’t see all the 6 clubs as potential title contenders with the likes of Lazio and Fiorentina looking like they will fall of before the year turns or before the season goes into half. But regardless it will be stupid to actually underestimate any club at the moments. After this years last international break it will be a very competitive season in Seria A, my two genuine contenders are Napoli and Inter Milan

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2024, 05:00:34 PM

1-1 between Napoli and Inter.
The lead of Serie A has never been so uncrtain in the last decade.

We have 6 teams in 2 points.
After the comingback from the NAtional teams break we will have another big game.

Milan Juventus incoming and if Milan will not win it will be out form the possibility of winning.

The season is becoming interesting than I thought because I never thought of seeing Napoli staying at the top till now and this encounter against Inter Milan I was expecting the host to make things hard for the visitors but it seems the Napoli side was ready to get at least a point. That missed penalty was suppose to give Inter Milan the 3pt but they were unlucky. Conte has done well I must say, when I thought this Napoli side can't withstand the pressure after losing to Atalanta they did the unexpected tonight and I congratulate Napoli on how they handled the game.

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1-1 between Napoli and Inter.
The lead of Serie A has never been so uncrtain in the last decade.

We have 6 teams in 2 points.
After the comingback from the NAtional teams break we will have another big game.

Milan Juventus incoming and if Milan will not win it will be out form the possibility of winning.

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Quote from: X-ray on November 10, 2024, 12:36:53 PM

https://www.asroma.com/en/news/72277/club-statement

You know guys, what i have expected is finally coming. It's official Roma has sacked Juric. This is also becoming their 3rd sacking in this year. The decision taken after they lost 2-3 against Bologna and i think they do the right thing to save the club from going down to the relegation zone. Cheesy

The thing that surprised is that they don't even have a new coach ready to replace Juric. It's a perfect ending to the their shitshow under Juric. I hope they will reconsider a good name such as Allegri and Sarri. Cheesy

I was wondering what will happen after seeing that result and wondered if they will sack their new coach and here we go again in this wasteful cercle.
I don't know if Roma already have a new coach or not but I doubt he will be Allegri or Sarri.
From what I saw, there is two names Edin Terzić and Roberto Mancini. I don't know why I feel that the same show will continue under the new coach.

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Quote from: AndySt on November 09, 2024, 06:14:58 PM

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This is how football is but I thought that AC Milan would not only take home 3 points in the Champions League, but also a ton of confidence and that they would carry it over to the next games, but there you go. Cagliari is 16th and AC Milan can't beat them. That is why AC Milan is stuck themselves.

I am not completely surprised by this result. Still, let's not forget about the psychological attitude of the team. It's one thing to set yourself up for a match with such a rival Real Madrid, and it's quite another thing when the sixteenth championship team like Cagliari is against you. Also, do not forget, respectively, that such teams are set up in a completely different way against the giants, and Milan still undoubtedly remains them. Also, I would not say that Milan was head and shoulders above Real Madrid in order to calmly beat Cagliari later.

Honestly, I didn’t think anybody would expect this kind of result from AC Milan, given their recent form compared to Cagliari’s. I know Cagliari has improved recently, but still, based on their recent performance statistics, AC Milan should have been able to win. So, I was not expecting a draw in yesterday’s game.

What surprised me the most is that Cagliari managed to score three goals. I didn’t think they would even have a chance to score at all but that’s football; it always brings surprise results sometimes. This is why I always say there’s no certainty in any game.

With this draw, I believe some people’s bets were ruined, especially those who expected a straight win for AC Milan. Since AC Milan was able to defeat Real Madrid in an away game in the Champions League, I was expecting an easy win from them yesterday.

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Quote from: Chilwell on November 10, 2024, 06:34:21 AM

Atalanta vs Udinese

Atalanta (confirmed lineup): Marco Carnesecchi, Odilon Kossounou, Isak Hien, Berat Djimsiti, Davide Zappacosta, Matteo Ruggeri, Marten de Roon, Mario Pasalic, Lazar Samardzic, Mateo Retegui, Ademola Lookman.

Udinese (confirmed lineup): Maduka Okoye, Lautaro Gianetti, Jaka Bijol, Souleymane Toure, Kingsley Ehizibue, Sandi Lovric, Jesper Karlstroem, Martin Payero, Hassane Kamara, Florian Thauvin, Keinan Davis.

Since the end of last season and now Atalanta have turn to be a big team that turn people's thinking to the opposite with the help of Ademola Lookman who is doing a great job for them. Today they will be hosting Udinese at Bergamo, Atalanta strength happen to give me more confidence for them to win this, last season Atalanta won 2-0 at Bergamo and draw in their home, again Atalanta have huge record head to head because they are unbeaten for the past 13 games and they only 8 games.

In today match , Atalanta full strength team was dominant in this match because they did not give up in this match and all players gave all efforts to win the match. Kamara did first goal of the match and he did goal at 48 minutes and he gave push to opponent team to play well and after that they played with full strength.Pašalić did second goal of match and after that goal match was equal and Touré did last goal of match at 60 runs. That was an easy win for Atalanta full strength team and Udinese team need improvement.Atalanta team will play next match against Parma team and we are expecting good from that players and they will win next match one sided.

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Quote from: stompix on November 10, 2024, 03:32:15 PM

So, the first half was almost over and Napoli was going for the surprise but 2 minutes before the break Inter managed to score:

I would say a rather disappointing Inter, I would have expected them to be more fierce since they are facing a team with a different style that would have played nice with relentless attacking, but, anyhow, whoever picked BTTS or over 2.5 probably has this in the bag.

Çalhanoğlu powerful strike from out side the box did the magic for Inter on the 43rd minutes to cancel the goal scored by MacTomminay, before the end of the first half. However, Napoli played better than Inter and got some chances which was misused. Tonight is when we would know if Napoli would step down for Inter from the first position or maintain it. The second half is about to start, and it will be exciting and with much thrills.

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Quote from: stompix on November 09, 2024, 10:44:31 AM

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Venice - Parma looks like 1-1, so BTTS yes. But overall it's a random game, I pass.
Cagliari - Milan, most likely Milan win 2-0 or 3-1, a pretty reliable game for cash bets I think.
Juventus - Torino, most likely a classic tough derby and Juventus win 1-0. But this is not a game worth betting on in my opinion.

Milan is the riskiest thing here, the team is really inconsistent, I swear they are just waiting for an opportunity to screw every one of their bets much like Liverpool has done a few times already, but personal opinions aside, I checked the last goals stats, and for both Cagliari and Milan they are 2/5 so 2 out of 5 for an over 2.5 goals, with that in mind an over 3 bet starts looking really risky.
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It's funny, but yes, Milan was ahead twice but they let the victory slip away in the last minutes. Regarding BTTS, yes in the first pair and Juventus' victory, I was right.
It's nice to see Roma's collapse, today they fired Juric and will now be looking for a third (lol) coach for the season, although there are still 2/3 of the season left. I wonder if they realize that Mourinho is the best thing they've had in the last decade (and probably the next decade too)? Why change coaches? They just need to get used to being in the middle of the standings and come to terms with it.

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So, the first half was almost over and Napoli was going for the surprise but 2 minutes before the break Inter managed to score:

I would say a rather disappointing Inter, I would have expected them to be more fierce since they are facing a team with a different style that would have played nice with relentless attacking, but, anyhow, whoever picked BTTS or over 2.5 probably has this in the bag.

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Quote from: AndySt on November 09, 2024, 06:14:58 PM

Quote from: tiCeR on November 09, 2024, 04:40:21 PM

This is how football is but I thought that AC Milan would not only take home 3 points in the Champions League, but also a ton of confidence and that they would carry it over to the next games, but there you go. Cagliari is 16th and AC Milan can't beat them. That is why AC Milan is stuck themselves.

I am not completely surprised by this result. Still, let's not forget about the psychological attitude of the team. It's one thing to set yourself up for a match with such a rival Real Madrid, and it's quite another thing when the sixteenth championship team like Cagliari is against you. Also, do not forget, respectively, that such teams are set up in a completely different way against the giants, and Milan still undoubtedly remains them. Also, I would not say that Milan was head and shoulders above Real Madrid in order to calmly beat Cagliari later.

It is not that I think it was completely surprising, but every time these teams take down a huge win like that one against Real Madrid, I think that those wins make them stronger. But that is not the case. If you can beat Real Madrid, you would conclude that you can beat Cagliari. But no and this is surprising more than the result itself. It is more about the result in the Champions League followed by the result against a far inferior team.

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Quote from: X-ray on November 10, 2024, 12:36:53 PM

https://www.asroma.com/en/news/72277/club-statement

You know guys, what i have expected is finally coming. It's official Roma has sacked Juric. This is also becoming their 3rd sacking in this year. The decision taken after they lost 2-3 against Bologna and i think they do the right thing to save the club from going down to the relegation zone. Cheesy

The thing that surprised is that they don't even have a new coach ready to replace Juric. It's a perfect ending to the their shitshow under Juric. I hope they will reconsider a good name such as Allegri and Sarri. Cheesy

12 games and only had 3 wins

Roma's management made a mistake when they signed Juric. They knew very well that Juric had not achieved many great achievements in Serie A, so it doesn't make much sense to create high expectations about Juric. At least in terms of winning the title. Roma also lost good players this season like Lukaku and Tammy Abraham and I don't see them bringing in good players capable of filling Tammy Abraham and Lukaku shoes. Honestly, Roma needs a new management. It's not normal to do things like that. During Mourinho's time, they preferred to bring in good players on loan instead of buying them. They also didn't improve the squad. I can't understand how the management wants to achieve things when they don't hire a good coach and don't make good signings.

Allegri would be a good option to prevent Roma from being relegated because he really likes to fortify the defense, but if they are going to fight for the title next season, then Allegri would be a bad option.

Sarri would be a good long-term option if Roma's management simply aren't looking to win the title next season.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 10, 2024, 01:54:57 PM

Roma would never responded so quickly to sack Juric if he was successfully managing the club. In fact, he delivered nothing to the club, he made his club so close to the relegation zone. It's very obvious this squad didn't suit him well, and the decision to sack him is the best one.

I hope the rumor about Roma appointing Mancini is not real. I'd rather see a better name than him. There are numerous names available now and they can pick the one who is reputable enough. It's enough to see them always appoint a washed-up coach to handle their squad.

Friedkins must use some sense when picking a new coach.

Juric has indeed had difficulty handling Roma, and we see that this season Roma's performance is indeed very unreliable. The latest rumor and perhaps the name most talked about by the media at the moment is Mancini. He who was considered a failure with the Saudi Arabian national team, may not be doing so well with Roma at the moment. Roma club management must think carefully and choose a good candidate so that they can immediately improve Roma's ranking in the standings. I'm sure when Roma decided to fire Juric, there must have been several names that they thought could immediately take over the coaching seat.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 10, 2024, 01:27:03 PM

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As predicted, Juric has been sacked just now.
Mancini is the wanted one but for journalist he is asking a long contract to be accept the offer.
I think it is never happen the sacking of a coach right after losing a game in 1 hour.
The note is interesting toh, it is not clear if is a sack per se or a common deal for leaving the club

AS Roma management has just released an official statement expressing their gratitude to Ivan Juric for his dedication and hard work in the last few weeks. In my opinion, this is the right move, and I hope they can consider signing Mancini for the rest of the season. On the other hand, AS Roma management has indeed shown strong determination lately. The previous replacement of De Rossi also felt quite fast. It seems that the separation with Juric happened by mutual agreement, where the number of acceptable defeat has been reached.
Reference : https://www.asroma.com/en/news/72277/club-statement

If we look at what is happening to Roma today, of course the dismissal of Ivan Jurig is one of the right solutions, the change of coach made after de rossi actually does not have any impact on the game and also Roma performance, I think previously Ivan Jurig would make a lot of improvements but in fact he actually made it worse than what de Rossi did before, Roma is one of the big teams with a long history in Serie A and to restore that glory the management should start thinking openly by recruiting great coaches with good experience in coaching big teams, so what Napoli is doing by recruiting experienced coaches like Conte should be an example for Roma for now and as you said maybe Mancini can be a solution for them.

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Quote from: hahay on November 10, 2024, 12:48:06 PM

To be honest, about AS Roma's defeat at home against Bologna then I immediately thought, whether the current AS Roma coach (Ivan Juric) would be retained or would be fired immediately. But, after I find out about it and great, I get the news that AS Roma has officially fired Ivan Juric. Because honestly, the results are very bad so far, so it is appropriate for AS Roma to fire Ivan Juric.

But unfortunately, it seems like AS Roma is a team that is fast enough to fire their coach because after all, if I'm not mistaken also about De Rossi this season only has three matches and AS Roma fired him. But yes, if AS Roma does not move quickly then of course AS Roma might be very close to the relegation zone. From rumors also circulating, that AS Roma will appoint Roberto Mancini as its new coach, because Roberto Mancini has also been fired from the Saudi Arabian national team.

Roma would never responded so quickly to sack Juric if he was successfully managing the club. In fact, he delivered nothing to the club, he made his club so close to the relegation zone. It's very obvious this squad didn't suit him well, and the decision to sack him is the best one.

I hope the rumor about Roma appointing Mancini is not real. I'd rather see a better name than him. There are numerous names available now and they can pick the one who is reputable enough. It's enough to see them always appoint a washed-up coach to handle their squad.

Friedkins must use some sense when picking a new coach.

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Quote from: xzone on November 09, 2024, 01:27:32 PM

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According to rumors Roma will change coach one again after the next game even if they will win.
Juric will be sacked and they take anoher one.
According to the rumor they will try for Mancini or Ranieri but the main target is Mancini.
The actual coach has been not able to create the empathy with the players and the owners has choosen to change the lead once again.

It is not a healthy thing to change coaches so frequently. If they make such a decision, I think they are making a mistake. It is not possible for the team to be successful without the players and the coach getting used to each other, so we should not rush when making such decisions. When we look at the most successful teams, we see that they are in a stable process. Teams that constantly make changes may not find success for a long time

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/10/european-football-roundup-barcelona-inter-napoli-roma
Giallorossi already sacked him.

You know, The Yellow and Reds had made a bad decision when they let go of Mourinho. That was definitely a bad decision because he was a better coach compared to whoever they have brought in next. The coaches that came after him, I'm talking about Daniele De Rossi do not do much better or even as good as him in my opinion. Maybe if they had given more time to Jose Mourinho, he could have brought in better results. But they did not trust him to bring in better results in the long run and they sacked him.

Now I think they are simply paying the price. Mourinho, then De Rossi, then Ivan Jurić, who is the next?
I hope the Italian capital will be able to bring in a good coach next and will actually give him enough time to work with the squad.

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