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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 13, 2022, 09:06:45 AM

Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 13, 2022, 05:48:39 AM

I think Juventus need to reshuffle some of the players on the current line-up. I do not deny that they were part of the success of Juventus in the past. But now the situation is different, if they can't improve their performance then they will fall further behind. Refreshment in the squad, they have to do in my view.

Juventus draws an image far from the years when they dominated the Italian League. This is because, as you said, the quality of the squad is now below the league level. They need to mark the transfer period to return to their old glory days. Maybe the Pogba transfer would be a way to do that.

After passing through a disappointing season, Juventus must be active in the transfer market to look for reliable players to enter the squad. In the January transfer window, Juventus made improvements in attack, Dusan Vlahovic was successfully brought in from Fiorentina. To compete in the new competition, Juventus must also improve in other areas.
Juventus must prioritize the defensive area, especially the left-back. Juventus also have to find a midfielder with physical strength who can dominate the midfield, and of course they also have to find a replacement for Paulo Dybala who chose to go to another club.

Juventus must build a team that is able to compete in European competition, so far Juventus has always been a champion in the Italian League, but difficulties in Europe, the last time Juventus lifted the trophy in European competition was in 1996.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 12, 2022, 06:01:07 PM

Roma (who is now owned by Americans) after Mou and after the win of the Confederation cup is rumored to want to buy a big name.
Keep in mind they want the big clickbait name not the best player in the world.

Juventus should sing Di Maria and Pogba.

Milan could have Botman.

Bernardeschi will probably join Napoli.

Dybala will probably go to Inter.
Lukaku is working to go back to Inter.

Inter need to end the market session with a +70m, so if Dybala and Lukaku goes to Inter, Shrinkiar will probably leave for PSG and another one will leave so I don't know if it will be an upgrade for them (maybe Luautaro is the second who can leave)

Ibrahimovic in Roma? Grin

In fact I think Roma would be more profitable to buy several players than one super player - too many positions need to be strengthened and a "uniformly" strong team is what most suits the implementation of Mourinho's ideas in my opinion.
I heard that Di Maria has already offered his services to Juventus and is waiting for a response, quite an interesting situation.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 13, 2022, 05:48:39 AM

I think Juventus need to reshuffle some of the players on the current line-up. I do not deny that they were part of the success of Juventus in the past. But now the situation is different, if they can't improve their performance then they will fall further behind. Refreshment in the squad, they have to do in my view.

Juventus draws an image far from the years when they dominated the Italian League. This is because, as you said, the quality of the squad is now below the league level. They need to mark the transfer period to return to their old glory days. Maybe the Pogba transfer would be a way to do that.

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Quote from: blackened515 on June 13, 2022, 07:47:14 AM

Italian teams have to learn how to win consistently if they probably want to achieve the Champions League trophy. The last Italian club to win the Champion League title was Inter Milan during the 2019/2010 season. Although, AC Milan also been a Italian club has won the trophy seven times making them the second most successful team in the Champion League after Real Madrid. Therefore, Italian clubs can do more better in the UCL. Truly, they basically need to sign more talented and experienced players.

Inter won the UCL in 2009/2010, not as you said. The next dominance comes from the EPL leagues, Bundesliga and Spanish League. By coefficient UEFA Serie A is the same as EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga. But I think if I look at the way they play it doesn't seem interesting and boring. So I think it's natural that some Serie A clubs often have trouble competing in europe. I think there are differences in quality and experience at serie A clubs and others. I'm not sure if next season they will be strongly competing if they don't improve their pattern of play.

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No Italian team is favourite for the Champions League title. The main reason for this is the lack of consistency in the performance of Italian teams. At the same time, there are not enough talented players in the team. If the Italian teams could raise enough funds to sort out their teams, perhaps they too would be able to compete for the Champions League title. Leading teams from Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus should form teams aiming for the Champions League title.

Because in this case, big teams from other leagues clearly dominate, so it is very difficult for Italian teams to compete there.
Some teams are good like Milan, Inter and other UCL teams but they will only be a complement because as you say, they lack consistency and their strength has dropped a lot now compared to a few years ago.

Italian teams have to learn how to win consistently if they probably want to achieve the Champions League trophy. The last Italian club to win the Champion League title was Inter Milan during the 2009/2010 season. Although, AC Milan also been a Italian club has won the trophy seven times making them the second most successful team in the Champion League after Real Madrid. Therefore, Italian clubs can do more better in the UCL. Truly, they basically need to sign more talented and experienced players.

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Quote from: Sirait on June 12, 2022, 05:11:52 PM

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Now Milan seems to be serious about signing this player and it is quite natural because Milan still need a striker now even though Zlatan has extended his contract and Giroud is there they still need a striker who is younger than the two of them and Gabriel is quite good even though it is like what You said that in terms of pattern it doesn't really match but if you look at several players who have tried in the EPL and then to Serie A, I think it's worth a try because Alexis and Lukaku have also improved their performance in Serie A after not playing well in the EPL.

Milan must have young strikers to be profitable in the next few years. instead of fighting for Gabriel Jesus (currently the value is very expensive because big teams like Madrid also want G Jesus), it would be better if Milan focused on getting Nicolo Zaniolo or Giacomo Raspadori.

Milan's offer for Zaniolo is still valid but on the other hand it seems like now they are throwing water into a bottomless river because there is no reciprocity from the Roma side who have indicated from the start that they will not sell Zaniolo.

I think the option to find other players still has to be done because if you focus on Zaniolo it will be difficult when it doesn't happen.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on June 12, 2022, 07:06:07 PM

Quote from: JeWay on June 12, 2022, 03:16:51 PM

Juventus lost its dominance as the ruler of Serie A in the last 2 seasons. They last won the Scudetto in the 2019/2020 season. Juventus this season has played very inconsistently, even surprisingly they had to try hard to close the season by being ranked 4th in the standings this season.

Yes, unfortunately, it is undeniable that Juventus' performance has actually declined quite drastically even though they can still defend their Scudetto title. But, if there is no good different chance in the future, will it be good? Of course not. Moreover, right now, Juventus are down under the performance of Napoli, we know how the track record in the past, but it is really different in this season. I don't know whether there is something wrong with how Maurizio Sarri brings the club or because of the old players there.

I think Juventus need to reshuffle some of the players on the current line-up. I do not deny that they were part of the success of Juventus in the past. But now the situation is different, if they can't improve their performance then they will fall further behind. Refreshment in the squad, they have to do in my view.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on June 12, 2022, 03:23:04 PM

Consistency is key of course, but they had a very confusing season with how the team was setup. They had Ronaldo at the start of the season, and I know they played many games without him, but if they knew that Ronaldo would leave on June, they would have replaced him with another player, they didn't and it rushed their hands to get better. This is why I believe that they are going to be getting players that would stay for a longer term this time around. This will in return result with them getting a good team for the season. Inconsistent results came from the fact that the team wasn't set and ready for such a transfer, now they would be a lot more ready and the squad will be decided beforehand.

It is impossible to attribute all the failures of Juventus to the fact that Ronaldo left the club at the beginning of the season. Juventus was just so sure that Ronaldo would go nowhere and he would agree to play another season without extending his contract, but it turned out that a player of this level has such options. In my opinion, the main problems of Juventus are not only and not so much connected with the departure of Ronaldo from the team, but the fact that Juventus during the season was rebuilt under a very specific model of Massimiliano Allegri's game, which used to bring results, but from which Juventus has been leaving all these years. And in any case, it takes a certain amount of time.

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Quote from: blue Snow on June 08, 2022, 11:42:29 PM

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Milan are going to be very active in this transfer windows as it seems. They should be like that too if they want to carry their performance to another level. They will need to bring some new players who can strengthen the squad too because of their joining the Champions League by winning the Serie A title. They need these changes in the squad to be more serious in the Champions League and they will need it for maintaining successful years in the Serie A as well.

How much prize for scudetto? I think it's not much to buy many players to San Siro. Milan also didn't have many matches in the champions league last season, only able in the group stage, it's not much money to bring many players from the transfer mart. So, in my opinion, they have to use the strategy as Inter did in last year ago. Inter didn't buy many potential players, but can still compete at a high level and almost be Champions. Milan should think to fix the weakness in the last session only.

I looked into it when you asked me that and found this:

https://www.sportsry.com/football/italian-serie-a-2022-prize-money-everything-you-need-to-know/#:~:text=The%20prize%20purse%20for%20the,clubs%20playing%20in%20the%20league.

It says that the winner of the title gets an amount like 23.4 million euros. It is quite a good amount of money though and Milan will get a really nice amount of money thanks to qualifying for the Champions League group stage as well. Two of them combined would be a good addition to their finance. I don't think that they will have too big problems with money considering their targets in the transfer window. So I hope to see them bringing quality players.

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Quote from: JeWay on June 12, 2022, 03:16:51 PM

Juventus lost its dominance as the ruler of Serie A in the last 2 seasons. They last won the Scudetto in the 2019/2020 season. Juventus this season has played very inconsistently, even surprisingly they had to try hard to close the season by being ranked 4th in the standings this season.

Yes, unfortunately, it is undeniable that Juventus' performance has actually declined quite drastically even though they can still defend their Scudetto title. But, if there is no good different chance in the future, will it be good? Of course not. Moreover, right now, Juventus are down under the performance of Napoli, we know how the track record in the past, but it is really different in this season. I don't know whether there is something wrong with how Maurizio Sarri brings the club or because of the old players there.

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Quote from: JeWay on June 12, 2022, 03:16:51 PM

Quote from: maju69 on June 12, 2022, 12:50:21 PM

Yes Juventus is not as easy as it used to be to dominate Serie A, other teams have improved their quality and even I think Juventus are a bit behind. The team that used to be a strong team is now back, a lot of changes here. If Juventus can't improve, I think they will fall further behind. They have to quickly adjust to the current Serie A.

Juventus lost its dominance as the ruler of Serie A in the last 2 seasons. They last won the Scudetto in the 2019/2020 season. Juventus this season has played very inconsistently, even surprisingly they had to try hard to close the season by being ranked 4th in the standings this season. this is their worst ranking in the last 7 years because statistically in the previous season they were able to close the season in 2nd place in the standings. I think next season Juventus will also have a hard time becoming champions because some of the other big teams are already very strong and will provide a pretty tough competition.

That was what i wishes for back in a couple years ago.

Im sick of that kind domination .. and my wishes seems granted now. Ac milan won the scudetto and juventus a bit struggle to come back stronger this season indeed.
I wish serie A become a competitive league just like the previous season where there is several teams chasing each other till the very last match of the season.

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Milan also have joined the race to sign Gabriel Jesus now. Their interest level has increased quite much recently but they might be the most disadvantageous team in this race also. Because it would be a completely different league and country for him to go. He has been very accustomed to the Premier League and he may want to stay because of that. But then he would miss the chance of playing in the Champions League most probably. Because Arsenal are the closest team to sign him in this league.

It's natural that AC Milan wants to compete for Gabriel Jesus, because next season AC Milan need a new striker to replace Ibrahimovic who is
40 years old, and also Ibrahimovic suffered an injury that required him to rest until next year. After all AC Milan just got the money to buy players
for 100 million euros after the acquisition by the RedBird Group was successful. So AC Milan is confident enough to compete with other big European
teams who also want Gabriel Jesus. It's interesting to know where Gabriel Jesus will end up choosing, if AC Milan manages to get Gabriel Jesus this is
a very good purchase, because Gabriel Jesus can strengthen AC Milan's front line.

Of course it is natural. They need to be better at scoring considering the Champions League in the first place as I indicated before. However I don't know if their chance of signing him is too high now too. Because the number of interested teams in Gabriel Jesus gets bigger and bigger these days. I'm thinking like the English Premier League teams would have a bigger advantage to sign him if he decides not to leave England. He will need to make an important decision for his career as he is still a very young striker.

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Quote from: JeWay on June 12, 2022, 03:16:51 PM

Quote from: maju69 on June 12, 2022, 12:50:21 PM

Yes Juventus is not as easy as it used to be to dominate Serie A, other teams have improved their quality and even I think Juventus are a bit behind. The team that used to be a strong team is now back, a lot of changes here. If Juventus can't improve, I think they will fall further behind. They have to quickly adjust to the current Serie A.

Juventus lost its dominance as the ruler of Serie A in the last 2 seasons. They last won the Scudetto in the 2019/2020 season. Juventus this season has played very inconsistently, even surprisingly they had to try hard to close the season by being ranked 4th in the standings this season. this is their worst ranking in the last 7 years because statistically in the previous season they were able to close the season in 2nd place in the standings. I think next season Juventus will also have a hard time becoming champions because some of the other big teams are already very strong and will provide a pretty tough competition.

They are in a transitional phase and that is quite natural because there are several factors that they have to go through, now they are slowly starting to enter a new chapter and the arrival of Dusan and Zakaria last season and now they are eyeing Pogba and Di Maria I think this is proof that they are began to commit again.
For next season it will still be difficult to predict, especially with the inconsistency of the clubs from Serie A and it is clear that Juventus still has a chance.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 12, 2022, 01:25:39 PM

No Italian team is favourite for the Champions League title. The main reason for this is the lack of consistency in the performance of Italian teams. At the same time, there are not enough talented players in the team. If the Italian teams could raise enough funds to sort out their teams, perhaps they too would be able to compete for the Champions League title. Leading teams from Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus should form teams aiming for the Champions League title.

In the last couple of years, IIRC Juventus have reached the CL final twice (and lost though), i know they were pretty stronger then compared to now, and honestly they are very far from attaining that level of getting to the CL next season, except of course a miracle happens. But i second what you have said, no Italian team is favorite to lift the CL, but the reason is not hard to decipher, Juve were on another level some seasons ago, they were completely/totally heads and shoulders above the rest of the league, and they were the ones Italy looked up to as the Italian team to challenge for the CL, but now their form has dropped and teams like Inter and AC have come on scene and won the league even with little or no world class players, you do not expect them to immediately go and conquer Europe, it will take time, and a lot of quality signings to get them to compete in the CL.

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Quote from: Sirait on June 12, 2022, 05:11:52 PM

Quote from: Furious 7 on June 12, 2022, 03:21:11 PM

Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on June 12, 2022, 12:54:51 PM

By the way Milan are really interested in signing Gabriel Jesus now. I just made a lucky guess then. Cheesy

However I also don't see their chance or the chance of some other Italian team as high to sign him now. Because it is a different league and country like I said and he might want to stay in the Premier League. He is quite accustomed to the Premier League actually as he has performed really nice so far. If Arsenal or another big Premier League team make an offer to him then he can choose to stay.

Now Milan seems to be serious about signing this player and it is quite natural because Milan still need a striker now even though Zlatan has extended his contract and Giroud is there they still need a striker who is younger than the two of them and Gabriel is quite good even though it is like what You said that in terms of pattern it doesn't really match but if you look at several players who have tried in the EPL and then to Serie A, I think it's worth a try because Alexis and Lukaku have also improved their performance in Serie A after not playing well in the EPL.

Milan must have young strikers to be profitable in the next few years. instead of fighting for Gabriel Jesus (currently the value is very expensive because big teams like Madrid also want G Jesus), it would be better if Milan focused on getting Nicolo Zaniolo or Giacomo Raspadori.

I read somewhere that O city wants 50 million euros, but speaking from a neutral point of view I would say that real madrid would be wasting money if they take gabriel jesus while for Milan it would also be more appropriate look for a player like lewandowski who scores a lot of goals, strange that italian clubs are not after lewandowski, and I also find it very strange that juventus is not looking for very famous players to join juventus, italian clubs are falling behind in terms of having stars in their teams, in the past good famous players were in italy clubs, times when ronaldo was at inter, ronaldinho and kaka were at milan, fig who was at inter, today the italian clubs are losing to the english and and as a result Italian clubs can't even make it far in the competitions league

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Roma (who is now owned by Americans) after Mou and after the win of the Confederation cup is rumored to want to buy a big name.
Keep in mind they want the big clickbait name not the best player in the world.

Juventus should sing Di Maria and Pogba.

Milan could have Botman.

Bernardeschi will probably join Napoli.

Dybala will probably go to Inter.
Lukaku is working to go back to Inter.

Inter need to end the market session with a +70m, so if Dybala and Lukaku goes to Inter, Shrinkiar will probably leave for PSG and another one will leave so I don't know if it will be an upgrade for them (maybe Luautaro is the second who can leave)

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Quote from: Sirait on June 12, 2022, 05:11:52 PM

Milan must have young strikers to be profitable in the next few years. instead of fighting for Gabriel Jesus (currently the value is very expensive because big teams like Madrid also want G Jesus), it would be better if Milan focused on getting Nicolo Zaniolo or Giacomo Raspadori.

Agree AC Milan must have a potential young striker (center forward). Now, they rely on 2 old strikers, Ibrahimovic (40) and Giroud (35). These strikers are not in their golden ages anymore. They must have 1-2 young strikers with the age below 30 years old. G Jesus is a good option, but I don't think it will be easy to sign him. They must look for other good strikers, not Nicolo Zaniolo. Zaniolo isn't a center-forward, dude. Giacomo Raspadori seems okay, it is a potential young striker.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on June 12, 2022, 03:21:11 PM

Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on June 12, 2022, 12:54:51 PM

By the way Milan are really interested in signing Gabriel Jesus now. I just made a lucky guess then. Cheesy

However I also don't see their chance or the chance of some other Italian team as high to sign him now. Because it is a different league and country like I said and he might want to stay in the Premier League. He is quite accustomed to the Premier League actually as he has performed really nice so far. If Arsenal or another big Premier League team make an offer to him then he can choose to stay.

Now Milan seems to be serious about signing this player and it is quite natural because Milan still need a striker now even though Zlatan has extended his contract and Giroud is there they still need a striker who is younger than the two of them and Gabriel is quite good even though it is like what You said that in terms of pattern it doesn't really match but if you look at several players who have tried in the EPL and then to Serie A, I think it's worth a try because Alexis and Lukaku have also improved their performance in Serie A after not playing well in the EPL.

Milan must have young strikers to be profitable in the next few years. instead of fighting for Gabriel Jesus (currently the value is very expensive because big teams like Madrid also want G Jesus), it would be better if Milan focused on getting Nicolo Zaniolo or Giacomo Raspadori.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 12, 2022, 01:25:39 PM

No Italian team is favourite for the Champions League title. The main reason for this is the lack of consistency in the performance of Italian teams. At the same time, there are not enough talented players in the team. If the Italian teams could raise enough funds to sort out their teams, perhaps they too would be able to compete for the Champions League title. Leading teams from Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus should form teams aiming for the Champions League title.

Because in this case, big teams from other leagues clearly dominate, so it is very difficult for Italian teams to compete there.
Some teams are good like Milan, Inter and other UCL teams but they will only be a complement because as you say, they lack consistency and their strength has dropped a lot now compared to a few years ago.

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Quote from: maju69 on June 12, 2022, 07:42:47 AM

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Juventus had better get prepared well for the season up next if they want to bring back the times that they were playing great in the league. Their current squad is quite good thanks to the addition of Dusan Vlahovic. But this isn't enough for them on the other hand. Their midfield is weak and they are already working on it now. Pogba is the biggest candidate for it and they seem close to signing him too. But if a team like PSG or Real Madrid try to intervene then I don't know what can happen.

They should make the most of what they have, they have a problem with consistency I think. In the last season they also bounced back several times but couldn't defend from one game to another.
If they can't realize that I think they will be more difficult for next season. Because on the other hand their competitors are also intensively making improvements in their squad.

Consistency is key of course, but they had a very confusing season with how the team was setup. They had Ronaldo at the start of the season, and I know they played many games without him, but if they knew that Ronaldo would leave on June, they would have replaced him with another player, they didn't and it rushed their hands to get better. This is why I believe that they are going to be getting players that would stay for a longer term this time around.

This will in return result with them getting a good team for the season. Inconsistent results came from the fact that the team wasn't set and ready for such a transfer, now they would be a lot more ready and the squad will be decided beforehand.

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