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Quote from: poldanmig on October 07, 2022, 09:32:51 AM

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This they have to do especially with their current state of being reviled even by their own fans and expecting Allegri to be replaced.
At least they have to bring points in this match because otherwise this will surely be another target of anger for Juventus.
They are now faced with a difficult situation so inevitably and in any way they have to get points in this match.

Allegri position is indeed quite threatened at this time at Juventus and even many fans have asked management to evaluate, but it seems that management still really trusts Allegri to train the Juve squad until his contract expires, the lack of creativity in the midfield I think is the current obstacle for Juventus in every attack which they have built, besides that maybe the ancient tactics used by Allegri so far at Juventus may also be the reason for other teams to beat Juventus too easily, the length of time Allegri has coach at Juventus and the absence of a change in scheme allows the opposing team to know every weakness that exists in every juventus game.

The problem for now is actually blaming Allegri is also a bit risky because indeed we can't demand much when the condition of the Juventus players is in such a condition so that Allegri also has a little difficulty in my opinion in concocting when their players are currently not in a fit condition.
On the other hand, the financial condition actually has an effect because no matter how hard the fans want to get rid of Allegri, it will obviously be very difficult because their finances are currently hampered.

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Try to find the leak at Juventus, that is not an easy task. Where exactly is the problem? It's not that they don't have good players. with this team you should just become champion or at least finish in the top 3 without any problems. Unfortunately, you could only draw 1 conclusion and that would be that the trainer has not got things right. But to fire him now? That is a possibility, but then you also have to look for a good trainer in the very short term. I think that's a big problem.

I think, Juventus coach need to use those potential players that are good in first half to start the match so that they will create more opportunities for other potential players that know how to achieve goals in the second half. If Juventus coach can apply this new strategy in their next match, no doubt they will definitely win their next match to improve their points and to save their coach job. Juventus really demonstrated well in last season that made their fans to believed that they will definitely win this season title base on their performance in last season but this season performance is too low for them to achieve this Italian league title.

Yeah it will be a wise choice to start those players who have shown in the previous game that they understand exactly what is required of them on the pitch, they can create chances and control the ball and hold possession which is much needed at this time. When they hold the ball they have better opportunity to explore different options to get a win and I hope Allegri will adopt this strategy in the next game.

Juventus' main weakness is their attack. We are not seeing the expected performance from Juventus due to the lack of attacking players. The Juventus team is not weak. The team has a lot of talented players. Their defense is very strong. They conceded only 5 goals in 8 matches. Against AC Milan if Juventus attacking players can play well and score goals then the result will be in favor of Juventus. Another point against Milan is impossible for Juventus.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 06, 2022, 11:12:18 PM

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Try to find the leak at Juventus, that is not an easy task. Where exactly is the problem? It's not that they don't have good players. with this team you should just become champion or at least finish in the top 3 without any problems. Unfortunately, you could only draw 1 conclusion and that would be that the trainer has not got things right. But to fire him now? That is a possibility, but then you also have to look for a good trainer in the very short term. I think that's a big problem.

I think, Juventus coach need to use those potential players that are good in first half to start the match so that they will create more opportunities for other potential players that know how to achieve goals in the second half. If Juventus coach can apply this new strategy in their next match, no doubt they will definitely win their next match to improve their points and to save their coach job. Juventus really demonstrated well in last season that made their fans to believed that they will definitely win this season title base on their performance in last season but this season performance is too low for them to achieve this Italian league title.

Yeah it will be a wise choice to start those players who have shown in the previous game that they understand exactly what is required of them on the pitch, they can create chances and control the ball and hold possession which is much needed at this time. When they hold the ball they have better opportunity to explore different options to get a win and I hope Allegri will adopt this strategy in the next game.

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Quote from: sana54210 on October 07, 2022, 01:44:35 PM

Most of these "we didn't get the results we wanted, we should sack the manager" type of questions and actions do not really reflect on the step afterwards and that causes a little bit of a trouble. I am not saying that it should be an easy task, but it needs to be carefully planned for the future.

Like let's assume they fired him, who are they going to get at this point? Are they really sure that they would be able to get someone that would be as good as him, or even better? I am not sure that many exists, Tuchel is the only one I can think of and I really doubt that they could get tuchel, both because of price reasons and he would rather go to a bigger name club too.

High pressure for Allegri after several match failure and last two games before success made all public want to sack him quit because Juventus won last two games at domestic and Champion League. Bad started on Serie A and loss two games at Champion League made his position as Juventus manager got higher pressure actually from Juventus fans want him sacking as soon possible. But I think all expected fans want to sack him slowly gone after success give two won for Juventus from Bologna at Serie A and last won at Champion League after defeating Maccabi Haifa.

Have another higher pressure for next weeks if Juventus failed against with Milan, actually will be at the end this season pressure for Allegri, when Juventus loss all pressure want Allegri left his position, but later he win two or three match and make public voice as him sacking will be silent awhile.

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Quote from: poldanmig on October 07, 2022, 09:32:51 AM

Allegri position is indeed quite threatened at this time at Juventus and even many fans have asked management to evaluate, but it seems that management still really trusts Allegri to train the Juve squad until his contract expires, the lack of creativity in the midfield I think is the current obstacle for Juventus in every attack which they have built, besides that maybe the ancient tactics used by Allegri so far at Juventus may also be the reason for other teams to beat Juventus too easily, the length of time Allegri has coach at Juventus and the absence of a change in scheme allows the opposing team to know every weakness that exists in every juventus game.

Most of these "we didn't get the results we wanted, we should sack the manager" type of questions and actions do not really reflect on the step afterwards and that causes a little bit of a trouble. I am not saying that it should be an easy task, but it needs to be carefully planned for the future.

Like let's assume they fired him, who are they going to get at this point? Are they really sure that they would be able to get someone that would be as good as him, or even better? I am not sure that many exists, Tuchel is the only one I can think of and I really doubt that they could get tuchel, both because of price reasons and he would rather go to a bigger name club too.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 07, 2022, 10:12:53 AM

Barcelona's attack may now be more dependent on Lewandowski. Because he is the most experienced player in Barcelona's attack. But Dembele and Raphinha are talented enough. Even if Lewandowski doesn't play well in any match, Raphinha and Dembele have the ability to bring victory to Barcelona. But I agree with you that Xavi needs to develop an alternative strategy. If the team becomes too dependent on Lewandowski, they will face problems in the future.

The defeat against Inter Milan is certainly very painful for Barcelona. In fact, they were able to dominate the game as a whole. In this match Robert Lewandowski could not do much, Xavi should have been able to quickly respond to the situation and prepare alternatives. I think Xavi was so carried away by the good performances of his team that he only realized it when the game was over. With this result, of course, the Blaugrana's chances of qualifying are getting tougher.

Then, the victory achieved by Inter Milan can certainly make Inzaghi a little more relieved. Inzaghi's victory over Barcelona will certainly be used as a mission for Inter Milan's revival after having slumped in the Italian League. However, if Inter Milan fail to win against Sassuolo, it is not impossible that Inzaghi's fate will get worse.

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At least Barcelona's strategy of always relying on Lewandowski has been read by many big clubs, Xavi must think harder to form a new strategy so that other attackers participate to score goals because Lewandowski has difficulty scoring goals when many opposing players are in charge of preventing him from getting the ball.

Your suggestion I think is also true because when many opposing players have been able to prevent Lewandowski from getting the ball, then it becomes an obstacle for Barcelona to score more goals because Barcelona rely more on Lewandowski in the striker line. So it's clear Xavi needs to change his tactics so his opponents can't read the movements of Barcelona's players in every game.

Barcelona's attack may now be more dependent on Lewandowski. Because he is the most experienced player in Barcelona's attack. But Dembele and Raphinha are talented enough. Even if Lewandowski doesn't play well in any match, Raphinha and Dembele have the ability to bring victory to Barcelona. But I agree with you that Xavi needs to develop an alternative strategy. If the team becomes too dependent on Lewandowski, they will face problems in the future.

Barcelona won't bet all Lewandowski to score a goal, they also can count on their defense line since it is quite strong to stalk enough time to wear Inter down. Enough to score at least 1 goal and they're even. Inter need to score 1 goal back at the Camp Nou stadium to make it to their advantage, as a guest. Else, it was Barcelona's Camp Nou so expect strong pressure from their fans there. What I worry about most is Serginho Dest from Inter. He has made many mistakes and he was Inter's defender. Watch this clip where he uses his hand and touches the ball without any thinking.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/xx867e/serginho_dest_69_great_control/

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on October 07, 2022, 11:56:46 AM

From what I see from their game they are on the ball for as long as possible that happens in almost every game. That's good because it can increase their chances, but if they don't have a lot of strategy then it will be like the game when they were beaten by Inter Milan. In this match Inter Milan could very well read their game and tried to stop Lewandowski. Barcelona have no other options on the front lines, as a result Inter Milan can really stifle them.

Therefore Barcelona must try to have another strategy so that they do not have an attitude of dependence with Robert Lewandowski so that the embarrassing incident against Inter does not happen again because it was a shameful mistake a club as big as Barcelona was defeated just by keeping one player not to get the ball with easy.

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At least Barcelona's strategy of always relying on Lewandowski has been read by many big clubs, Xavi must think harder to form a new strategy so that other attackers participate to score goals because Lewandowski has difficulty scoring goals when many opposing players are in charge of preventing him from getting the ball.

Your suggestion I think is also true because when many opposing players have been able to prevent Lewandowski from getting the ball, then it becomes an obstacle for Barcelona to score more goals because Barcelona rely more on Lewandowski in the striker line. So it's clear Xavi needs to change his tactics so his opponents can't read the movements of Barcelona's players in every game.

From what I see from their game they are on the ball for as long as possible that happens in almost every game. That's good because it can increase their chances, but if they don't have a lot of strategy then it will be like the game when they were beaten by Inter Milan. In this match Inter Milan could very well read their game and tried to stop Lewandowski. Barcelona have no other options on the front lines, as a result Inter Milan can really stifle them.

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At least Barcelona's strategy of always relying on Lewandowski has been read by many big clubs, Xavi must think harder to form a new strategy so that other attackers participate to score goals because Lewandowski has difficulty scoring goals when many opposing players are in charge of preventing him from getting the ball.

Your suggestion I think is also true because when many opposing players have been able to prevent Lewandowski from getting the ball, then it becomes an obstacle for Barcelona to score more goals because Barcelona rely more on Lewandowski in the striker line. So it's clear Xavi needs to change his tactics so his opponents can't read the movements of Barcelona's players in every game.

Barcelona's attack may now be more dependent on Lewandowski. Because he is the most experienced player in Barcelona's attack. But Dembele and Raphinha are talented enough. Even if Lewandowski doesn't play well in any match, Raphinha and Dembele have the ability to bring victory to Barcelona. But I agree with you that Xavi needs to develop an alternative strategy. If the team becomes too dependent on Lewandowski, they will face problems in the future.

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There is no doubt that Allegri is trying his best to improve the performance of the team in every possible way. Honestly, it is very difficult to do anything if all the players of the team are not available because of injuries which are preventing them from playing. It is important to keep in mind that injuries are something that cannot be prepared for before the season even starts.

Juventus is going to play Milan in the next match. I will be very interested to see how Juventus will perform against Milan. I really want Juventus to win this match. But if you ask me if Juventus is going to win this match or not, I will have to say that I have my doubts. But Milan is also not doing very well this season. So that is going to be a plus point for Juventus. I am interested to see which players Allegri decides to play in this match.

This they have to do especially with their current state of being reviled even by their own fans and expecting Allegri to be replaced.
At least they have to bring points in this match because otherwise this will surely be another target of anger for Juventus.
They are now faced with a difficult situation so inevitably and in any way they have to get points in this match.

Allegri position is indeed quite threatened at this time at Juventus and even many fans have asked management to evaluate, but it seems that management still really trusts Allegri to train the Juve squad until his contract expires, the lack of creativity in the midfield I think is the current obstacle for Juventus in every attack which they have built, besides that maybe the ancient tactics used by Allegri so far at Juventus may also be the reason for other teams to beat Juventus too easily, the length of time Allegri has coach at Juventus and the absence of a change in scheme allows the opposing team to know every weakness that exists in every juventus game.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on October 07, 2022, 03:11:03 AM

At least Barcelona's strategy of always relying on Lewandowski has been read by many big clubs, Xavi must think harder to form a new strategy so that other attackers participate to score goals because Lewandowski has difficulty scoring goals when many opposing players are in charge of preventing him from getting the ball.

Your suggestion I think is also true because when many opposing players have been able to prevent Lewandowski from getting the ball, then it becomes an obstacle for Barcelona to score more goals because Barcelona rely more on Lewandowski in the striker line. So it's clear Xavi needs to change his tactics so his opponents can't read the movements of Barcelona's players in every game.

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It seems that at this moment there are no wins on paper and even though Inter previously won in the Champions League and managed to beat Barcelona, I still don't believe Inter will be able to continue that win away against Sassuolo. Because so far Inter look unconvincing when playing away, moreover Sassuolo is above Inter in fact it's not about the number of goals that are many, but Sassuolo have conceded a few. Therefore, it means that Sassuolo at this moment has a good defense and of course, even though Inter play attacking it looks like Inter will still find it difficult to penetrate the Sassuolo defense.

If you look at Sassuolo's games, it's obvious that they are a weak team - they have only scored one point in games against strong teams - Juventus, Milan and Udinese. All victories are over obvious outsiders (except Torino) - Lecce and Salernitana. And more draws with weak teams - Spezia and Cremonese. It is obvious to me that Inter, even in preparation for the second leg with Barcelona, will beat them without any problems.

Inter must win this match no matter what because apart from keeping hope for a return to the title circulation, they also have to maintain the mentality and confidence of their players to face Barcelona in their second meeting in the Champions League.
Technically it will be easy but sometimes Inter's performance in Serie A is difficult to predict and they also lost in the second meeting last season although from all H2H they can be said to be able to overcome Sasuolo.

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The Inter defense had a good strategy to stop the ball before Lewandowski took possession. even when Lewandoski got the ball, the Inter players gave a tight press. even with tough tackles.
In that match, we saw how Inter's strength dampened the dominance of Barcelona. Xavi may run out of ways to undermine the Inter defense.
before facing Barca again, Inter must focus on the match against Sassuolo. it will also not be easy for Inter if they have to face Sassuolo. Sassuolo also held Milan to a goalless draw.

At least Barcelona's strategy of always relying on Lewandowski has been read by many big clubs, Xavi must think harder to form a new strategy so that other attackers participate to score goals because Lewandowski has difficulty scoring goals when many opposing players are in charge of preventing him from getting the ball.

They always dominate in almost every one of their matches, but their aim is only on one player up front. It made it easier for the opponent to read the direction of their attack, so Inter Milan could anticipate every attack launched by Barcelona and it was very successful. Now in Serie A their opponents are not like Barcelona who always dominate the game, of course it looks easier. They can use this to win the game. But there is one thing they have to be aware of because Sassuolo's strategy is different to Barcelona's maybe it will make a difference.

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Quote from: hahay on October 07, 2022, 12:59:44 AM

It seems that at this moment there are no wins on paper and even though Inter previously won in the Champions League and managed to beat Barcelona, I still don't believe Inter will be able to continue that win away against Sassuolo. Because so far Inter look unconvincing when playing away, moreover Sassuolo is above Inter in fact it's not about the number of goals that are many, but Sassuolo have conceded a few. Therefore, it means that Sassuolo at this moment has a good defense and of course, even though Inter play attacking it looks like Inter will still find it difficult to penetrate the Sassuolo defense.

If you look at Sassuolo's games, it's obvious that they are a weak team - they have only scored one point in games against strong teams - Juventus, Milan and Udinese. All victories are over obvious outsiders (except Torino) - Lecce and Salernitana. And more draws with weak teams - Spezia and Cremonese. It is obvious to me that Inter, even in preparation for the second leg with Barcelona, will beat them without any problems.

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Quote from: GatotKaca on October 07, 2022, 01:05:26 AM

The Inter defense had a good strategy to stop the ball before Lewandowski took possession. even when Lewandoski got the ball, the Inter players gave a tight press. even with tough tackles.
In that match, we saw how Inter's strength dampened the dominance of Barcelona. Xavi may run out of ways to undermine the Inter defense.
before facing Barca again, Inter must focus on the match against Sassuolo. it will also not be easy for Inter if they have to face Sassuolo. Sassuolo also held Milan to a goalless draw.

At least Barcelona's strategy of always relying on Lewandowski has been read by many big clubs, Xavi must think harder to form a new strategy so that other attackers participate to score goals because Lewandowski has difficulty scoring goals when many opposing players are in charge of preventing him from getting the ball.

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Quote from: makishart on October 07, 2022, 12:45:56 AM

A good strategy by intermilan. It seems like inter will be using the same strategy once it will meet barcelona again in the next leg. I do believe if inter may get the second position and then barcelona in the third position.
It seems like strategy that used by intermilan is very effective to prevent ball to go to the lewandowski. That's very impressive to see that. I think barcelona is always feeling so difficult when it was facing a defensive team.
Inter has been getting more chance to go to next round.

The Inter defense had a good strategy to stop the ball before Lewandowski took possession. even when Lewandoski got the ball, the Inter players gave a tight press. even with tough tackles.
In that match, we saw how Inter's strength dampened the dominance of Barcelona. Xavi may run out of ways to undermine the Inter defense.
before facing Barca again, Inter must focus on the match against Sassuolo. it will also not be easy for Inter if they have to face Sassuolo. Sassuolo also held Milan to a goalless draw.

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Quote from: arimamib on October 06, 2022, 09:09:05 AM

Sassuolo and Inter have the same points in the table, Sassuolo is one place above Inter because their goal productivity is better. The winning spirit that Inter just got from Barcelona in the UCL makes Inter players highly motivated to repeat their success from Sassuolo. Inter, who had dropped points in the previous match when they were beaten by AS Roma, will try to rise to improve their ranking in the standings, on paper Inter are able to beat Sassuolo. But if Inter are not able to play solidly, Inter must be prepared for the worst.

It seems that at this moment there are no wins on paper and even though Inter previously won in the Champions League and managed to beat Barcelona, I still don't believe Inter will be able to continue that win away against Sassuolo. Because so far Inter look unconvincing when playing away, moreover Sassuolo is above Inter in fact it's not about the number of goals that are many, but Sassuolo have conceded a few. Therefore, it means that Sassuolo at this moment has a good defense and of course, even though Inter play attacking it looks like Inter will still find it difficult to penetrate the Sassuolo defense.

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I think so , Inter are currently motivated by their win in the champions league after all the morale of the players will definitely increase
Sassuolo are also not a strong team even though they are 1 place above Inter but Inter deserve to be favorites with various considerations.

Sassuolo and Inter have the same points in the table, Sassuolo is one place above Inter because their goal productivity is better. The winning spirit that Inter just got from Barcelona in the UCL makes Inter players highly motivated to repeat their success from Sassuolo. Inter, who had dropped points in the previous match when they were beaten by AS Roma, will try to rise to improve their ranking in the standings, on paper Inter are able to beat Sassuolo. But if Inter are not able to play solidly, Inter must be prepared for the worst.

Barcelona and Sassuolo are on different levels, so Inter Milan will feel less pressure than against Barcelona. But can't guarantee that their opponents who lost to Barcelona now will be easy to beat, they can lose again in this match. They have to do their best in this match in order to get 3 more points to boost their morale. The valuable capital they brought from the Champions League could hopefully be a turning point for their revival.

Finally the match between Inter Milan and Barcelona ended 1-0 and was won by Inter Milan, with a tight guard against Robert Lewandowski which finally made him unable to get the ball well so Barcelona was difficult to score, at least this is a good development by Inter Milan because can beat Barcelona.

A good strategy by intermilan. It seems like inter will be using the same strategy once it will meet barcelona again in the next leg. I do believe if inter may get the second position and then barcelona in the third position.
It seems like strategy that used by intermilan is very effective to prevent ball to go to the lewandowski. That's very impressive to see that. I think barcelona is always feeling so difficult when it was facing a defensive team.
Inter has been getting more chance to go to next round.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on October 06, 2022, 11:52:23 AM

Juventus lacks players with high mentality who also have high creativity when controlling the flow of the game. That can't be separated from their failure because they didn't bring in the person they needed, yes I think they failed in the last transfer market. Monotonous, that's what I've seen from some of their games, there's nothing I can expect from them when they play football like that. Releasing old players and bringing in new players who until now have not been able to make a major contribution to the team.

The main problem of Juventus at this point are the injuries.
Their 3 best players haven't basically played yet (Chiesa Pogba and Di Maria), and the rest of the team also got a lot of problems.
They just added more coaches for the preparation.

That certainly influenced a lot, but consider that the squad is tight (due to little money)
They have so little money that they keep the current manager
Juventus are playing in an emergency in practice
it happens, it's not unusual, you just need to understand certain dynamics
in fact the journalists instead of blaming Juventus, why not blame Inter, what excuses do Inter have?

There is no doubt that Juventus is the unluckiest team in the Italian League this year. Last season, the team suffered from this injury problem, and this season they have the same issue. A lack of money is another problem that needs to be addressed. They did not have enough money and that is the reason why they brought Pogba, di Maria, into the team. But the harsh reality is that both of them got injured. At this point, I don't think relieving the coach of his duty is going to do any good.

Allegri by the way, should not take this opportunity for granted. In order for him to achieve better results, he should always be looking for new ways to do so. I know it is going to be really challenging. It would take him some time to start bringing in respectable results with this team, but he will need to do that somehow.

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