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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 19, 2022, 08:26:08 AM

Their situation is really not good, this match loss worsened their record for 3 matches. Their quality is far above Monza, even I dare say that they can win with only 10 players with Monza. But that's what we see, they can't do anything about it. I have to say, now the belief in Juventus is fading a little. I hope they can restore this trust.

I don't understand why Juventus lost to Monza even though the quality of Juventus players can be said to be greater than Monza. Di Maria's red card was fatal for Juventus' performance and chances of winning, but it was an excuse that should not be the main reason for Juventus' defeat.

Juventus could not take advantage of the opportunity well despite having good momentum to score goals, but failed. Monza, who focused on defending from the start, managed to take advantage of the superior number of players to steal points from Juventus. The fact that Juventus are in a slump, they don't have enough motivation to win many match. It must be evaluated immediately and must be corrected immediately.

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Quote from: BALIK on September 19, 2022, 09:20:38 AM

In the last two seasons, Juventus have not contested for the title. It was also challenging for them to qualify for the Champions League. They are not playing well. Massimiliano Allegri could not bring any changes to the team. The performance of the Juventus team is still weak. Despite the addition of star players like DI Maria and Pogba, the performance did not improve. They have further deteriorated. They are losing even against the weakest teams in the league. Juventus management may decide to sack Massimiliano Allegri very quickly. If they find the right experienced coach for their team. However, Juventus management may give some more time to Massimiliano Allegri.

Juventus did not play well against Monza and yes this very weak a team, although only by one goal difference but they deserved to win. Because Juventus loss this time was not only from the tactician but also the player which receive a red card. Anyways, yes the tactician is supposed to give the right direction, but regarding Pogba, unfortunately this man is still injured, so addition of the two players that not yet made a good contribution.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on September 19, 2022, 10:32:03 AM

The rumors says that juventus would announce their financial loss , a huge loss around $250m during the last season , sacking him will cost a lot as he has a long term contract , though decision but for me sacking him would be the best choice instead keeping the current situation keep going and the loss keep going as well.

We will see what the board can do to respond the recent awful form.

The decision is entirely in the hands of Juventus management, if they keep Allegri position as coach for too long, I can't imagine what will happen to Juventus at the end of the season. From the past few games, Juventus have dropped a lot of points, and they are having a hard time qualifying for the knock out stage in the Champions League. Finding a new coach is the best solution for Juventus, because it will determine the success of Juventus if it is handled by the right coach.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on September 18, 2022, 06:22:45 PM

Wonder why juventus looks really hard to sack allegri , is there certain clause attached in the contract? He should have sacked by the start of the season not waiting the bomb to explode like this .. such embarassing moment to lose against unknown club like monza , an uneccessary loss for juventus , the 3 usual points are now gone

Juventus must have a strong reason why they don't easily fire Allegri. They may think that there is no other quality coach that is possible to replace Allegri now. So, Juventus may consider letting him manage Juventus until a half of season is over. If no improvement in Juventus performance, Juventus probably changes him with a new coach in the early of second half this season.

Quote from: EdenHazard on September 18, 2022, 06:22:45 PM

Allegri out hashtag getting wilder now on the internet , he must be replaced immediately.

I doubt Juventus to fire him very soon.
It is normal that people are unsatisfied with him, but only Juventus management who has the right to fire or keep him.

The rumors says that juventus would announce their financial loss , a huge loss around $250m during the last season , sacking him will cost a lot as he has a long term contract , though decision but for me sacking him would be the best choice instead keeping the current situation keep going and the loss keep going as well.

We will see what the board can do to respond the recent awful form.

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Quote from: BALIK on September 19, 2022, 09:20:38 AM

In the last two seasons, Juventus have not contested for the title. It was also challenging for them to qualify for the Champions League. They are not playing well. Massimiliano Allegri could not bring any changes to the team. The performance of the Juventus team is still weak. Despite the addition of star players like DI Maria and Pogba, the performance did not improve. They have further deteriorated. They are losing even against the weakest teams in the league. Juventus management may decide to sack Massimiliano Allegri very quickly. If they find the right experienced coach for their team. However, Juventus management may give some more time to Massimiliano Allegri.

it's possible that it's Allegri's fault, but I think there's more
blaming the coach is very easy, yet in his previous experience at Juventus he did not hurt

for me there are problems with money, cash, Juventus wanted to join the Super League, I remind everyone

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Monza is a team who are still in the relegation zone after a win in this match. Their achievement was 1 point from the first 6 matches. And they lost in the first 5 matches. It's a shame to lose against such a weak team. Juventus have added several star players to the squad but their performances have been very poor. Di Maria got a red card today, and Pogba is out with an injury.

Juventus management is now unsure whether to fire their coach or give him more time. However, the coach is more likely to be sacked. Even after 7 rounds, Juventus's performance has not improved, it is deteriorating day by day.

Unpredictable with Juventus how come get loss from AC Monza as relegation zone team after six games with 1 points achievement and 5 loss, I think have big mistake from Juventus manager Massimo Allegri, just waiting with time announcement for sacking from his position as Juventus manager. Juventus not only bad performance in Serie A but also still can't won on UEFA Champion League match and I think Juventus management take final decision as soon possible warning with Allegri position. Not have ideas keep ask him continues as Juventus manager until 7 games in domestic league have got 2 won, 4 draw and 1 loss.

In the last two seasons, Juventus have not contested for the title. It was also challenging for them to qualify for the Champions League. They are not playing well. Massimiliano Allegri could not bring any changes to the team. The performance of the Juventus team is still weak. Despite the addition of star players like DI Maria and Pogba, the performance did not improve. They have further deteriorated. They are losing even against the weakest teams in the league. Juventus management may decide to sack Massimiliano Allegri very quickly. If they find the right experienced coach for their team. However, Juventus management may give some more time to Massimiliano Allegri.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on September 19, 2022, 03:29:06 AM

Quote from: fzkto on September 19, 2022, 02:47:28 AM

A surprising situation in Serie A yesterday. Inter lost big to Udinese and Juventus lost to Monza. I think it's a shame to lose to a club that only made it to Serie A this season. The league is unpredictable as always. Only Napoli managed to snatch victory from Milan in a strong battle. The matches were very interesting.

It's very difficult to understand why a club as big and strong as Inter and Juventus got a defeat like that, Udinese and Monza should be very easy to beat and can get enough additional points to grow their score in the standings, but these two big clubs seem to have a special strategy that makes they prefer to lose because they have a hidden plan.

Udinese has been change this season became an big teams killer and it proven from their previous matches that they can win with big scores from Roma and after seeing this i feel this match won't be easy for Inter because they can be slipped because Udinese seems just like have strong motivation while against big teams and Udinese also know how to counter them so i am aware about this before so that's why i was not bet for this match before because i doubt Inter can win but seems it just happend yesterday that Inter get their 3rd lose this season

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 19, 2022, 08:26:08 AM

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Their situation is really not good, this match loss worsened their record for 3 matches. Their quality is far above Monza, even I dare say that they can win with only 10 players with Monza. But that's what we see, they can't do anything about it. I have to say, now the belief in Juventus is fading a little. I hope they can restore this trust.

Precisely the trust in the coach is fading due to the disappointing results that Juventus continues to achieve. On paper Juventus can easily beat Monza, but the player's confidence that continues to decline makes Juventus seem to lose control.
As a result of accepting the defeat from of the promoted team Allegri future became bleak at Juventus. Allegri must immediately restore the player's confidence to continue to give his best performance in order to win, Allegri must be able to bring Juventus back to the top four but if he is not able to do his best for Juventus, he will suffer the same fate as Tuchel.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on September 19, 2022, 07:15:20 AM

At this point I don't know who to blame for the bad performance of Juventus; whether it's Massimiliano or the players, because it looked like they had the game all figured out in the opening half of the game and possession was in their favor before Angel Di Maria fouled the Monza player and awarded himself a red card.

Their woes began from there and went on from bad to worse with them losing possession and conceding a goal in the 74th minutes. An utterly disappointing game seeing as they lost to 18th placed Monza.

Their situation is really not good, this match loss worsened their record for 3 matches. Their quality is far above Monza, even I dare say that they can win with only 10 players with Monza. But that's what we see, they can't do anything about it. I have to say, now the belief in Juventus is fading a little. I hope they can restore this trust.

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Quote from: fzkto on September 19, 2022, 02:47:28 AM

A surprising situation in Serie A yesterday. Inter lost big to Udinese and Juventus lost to Monza. I think it's a shame to lose to a club that only made it to Serie A this season. The league is unpredictable as always. Only Napoli managed to snatch victory from Milan in a strong battle. The matches were very interesting.

At this point I don't know who to blame for the bad performance of Juventus; whether it's Massimiliano or the players, because it looked like they had the game all figured out in the opening half of the game and possession was in their favor before Angel Di Maria fouled the Monza player and awarded himself a red card.

Their woes began from there and went on from bad to worse with them losing possession and conceding a goal in the 74th minutes. An utterly disappointing game seeing as they lost to 18th placed Monza.

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Roma actually got some chances, but they failed to take advantage of them into goals. On the other hand, Atalanta had very few chances, but one of their chances turned out to be a goal. Actually I would prefer to say that AS Roma deserved to win the game, but the result was not in their favor. Scalvini's single goal in the first half could not be answered by the AS Roma players.

Roma was very unlucky in this match. Compared to Atalanta, AS Roma's performance was much better. Roma players attacked a lot. Atalanta only repelled the attacks. We enjoyed a boring match. Only saw Roma attacks. We didn't see any counterattack from Atalanta's players. This match proved once again that Roma's attack is not strong enough. They scored only 8 goals in 7 matches. If Mourinho can't get them to strengthen their attack they won't be able to compete for the title. Mourinho may change his match strategy in the coming matches.

Indeed, Roma didn't deserve to lose, they played well and got a lot of chances. Unfortunately, Roma's finishing was not good, so Roma couldn't score
a single goal. Looking at the match statistics, we can conclude that Roma dominated the game. Several times Tammy Abraham had chances, then in
the last minute a heading from Eldor Shomurudov was almost right on target. The conclusion is that Roma were unlucky, while Atalanta did not create
many chances, but managed to score one goal. Atalanta defeating Roma is an ugly win, but that's football, sometimes a team that plays well
doesn't necessarily win.

It seems difficult to expect Mourinho to change his playing strategy, Mourinho will not do that. Because whichever team is handled by Mourinho,
Mourinho's strategy remains the same and does not change. Mourinho is not concerned with beautiful games, Mourinho prefers defensive play and
prioritizes winning. That is why the number of goals scored by Roma is very different from other big teams in Serie A.

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Quote from: 8rch7 on September 19, 2022, 06:27:50 AM

It's a shame that the Serie A giants Juventus had to bend to Monza's knees in week seven of the A series, I also completely agree with your opinion, the red card is not the reason that caused Juventus' defeat to a lower-tier club like Monza, with this defeat it might be a very big blow. This is a big blow for a big club like Juventus, with this defeat Juventus will definitely receive harsh criticism from fans all over the world, even the media will never stop covering Juventus for failing to give a win against Monza in the seventh week, if they don't play well this weekend. Furthermore, it is certain that scathing criticism will continue to haunt Juventus coaches and players.

Di Maria's red card was absolutely deserving. It seemed as though he had an unresolved issue from home. Totally, undisciplined. However, despite having 10 men, I must say that it was a tightly contested game. The goal wouldn't have happened if the defenders didn't were distracted. Trust me, Monza could have had more goals but they lack a clinical finisher. Juventus has got to wake up. They are fast turning into a small club.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on September 19, 2022, 05:22:43 AM

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Roma actually got some chances, but they failed to take advantage of them into goals. On the other hand, Atalanta had very few chances, but one of their chances turned out to be a goal. Actually I would prefer to say that AS Roma deserved to win the game, but the result was not in their favor. Scalvini's single goal in the first half could not be answered by the AS Roma players.

Roma was very unlucky in this match. Compared to Atalanta, AS Roma's performance was much better. Roma players attacked a lot. Atalanta only repelled the attacks. We enjoyed a boring match. Only saw Roma attacks. We didn't see any counterattack from Atalanta's players. This match proved once again that Roma's attack is not strong enough. They scored only 8 goals in 7 matches. If Mourinho can't get them to strengthen their attack they won't be able to compete for the title. Mourinho may change his match strategy in the coming matches.

The sharpness of their attack line is still in question today. Because it's useless they have a good defense as well with a good game but can't score, it won't give them a win. Actually AS Roma players have that potential, it's just that they haven't been able to perform well from one match to another (attack line). That's what makes it difficult for them to win.

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Quote from: hahay on September 19, 2022, 02:09:03 AM

Congratulations to Monza who managed to get a win for the first time, what's even more great is that they managed to beat Juventus 1-0. Lol! I don't care about the red card because after all, Juventus are a team that clearly has good quality and even though they are playing with 10 player Juventus should be able to overcome that and still win the match against a team that had never won beforehand. This is really a big problem for Juventus because if it continues like that Juventus may be relegated because even against Monza they still can't get points which means Juventus are worse than mediocre teams. Angry

It's a shame that the Serie A giants Juventus had to bend to Monza's knees in week seven of the A series, I also completely agree with your opinion, the red card is not the reason that caused Juventus' defeat to a lower-tier club like Monza, with this defeat it might be a very big blow. This is a big blow for a big club like Juventus, with this defeat Juventus will definitely receive harsh criticism from fans all over the world, even the media will never stop covering Juventus for failing to give a win against Monza in the seventh week, if they don't play well this weekend. Furthermore, it is certain that scathing criticism will continue to haunt Juventus coaches and players.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 19, 2022, 04:43:42 AM

Roma actually got some chances, but they failed to take advantage of them into goals. On the other hand, Atalanta had very few chances, but one of their chances turned out to be a goal. Actually I would prefer to say that AS Roma deserved to win the game, but the result was not in their favor. Scalvini's single goal in the first half could not be answered by the AS Roma players.

As Roma should have won, but the goddess of fortune still seems to be siding with Atalanta. Judging from the stats table, As Roma had a chance of 21 shooting and 5 that went straight to the goal, while Atalanta only had one target. In the game As Roma is superior. When Roma went 1-0 down due to a goal by Giorgia Scalvini in the 35th minute, As Roma continued to try to break through the Atalanta defense, and in the 55th minute Nicolo Zaniolo was brought down by Caleb Okoli but was not awarded a penalty. this made Mourinho disappointed with the referee because his team deserved a penalty for the foul committed. This incident made mourinho yell at the referee for his dissatisfaction and Mourinho was given a red card.
Roma ended up in 6th place and atalanta advanced to 2nd place and the first place was dominated by Napoli.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 19, 2022, 04:43:42 AM

Roma actually got some chances, but they failed to take advantage of them into goals. On the other hand, Atalanta had very few chances, but one of their chances turned out to be a goal. Actually I would prefer to say that AS Roma deserved to win the game, but the result was not in their favor. Scalvini's single goal in the first half could not be answered by the AS Roma players.

Roma was very unlucky in this match. Compared to Atalanta, AS Roma's performance was much better. Roma players attacked a lot. Atalanta only repelled the attacks. We enjoyed a boring match. Only saw Roma attacks. We didn't see any counterattack from Atalanta's players. This match proved once again that Roma's attack is not strong enough. They scored only 8 goals in 7 matches. If Mourinho can't get them to strengthen their attack they won't be able to compete for the title. Mourinho may change his match strategy in the coming matches.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 19, 2022, 01:17:24 AM

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Juventus and Inter are down bad, they were the two top favorites to win the Scudetto, and now they are behind all other big competitors, i don't think we'll see them winning the trophy this year, even though the season just started but others are doing good like Napoli and Atalanta.

Inter have not been too involved too much in transfer activities this season, instead they seem to bring in some new players to strengthen the Inter squad, such as Joaquín Correa, Romelu Lukaku, and several others. But what has happened is that Inter's performance since the start of the season looks much different than before
Inter's weak performance took them out of the top of the table, and has the opportunity to be eliminated from group C of the Champions League because with the current performance it will be difficult for Inter to compete with Bayern and Barcelona.

Inzaghi and his team have many activities that I did not understand since last year. The thing that confuses me the most is that he changes the same position players without playing with the main formation structure. For example, when defender is not doing that day, he gets another stopper instead. Even if the score is against them, they do not give up their thoughts. This makes them a more predictable team. I don't think Inter, which has been on the rise as sporting success in Serie A in recent seasons, wants to see this season as a loss. I appreciated the positive work of Inzaghi and his team in Lazio and Inter, but if they remain unresponsive without making fundamental changes that could affect the team, they may part ways with Inter. Personally, I do not find frequent technical team changes very positive, but when we look at the Inter team and its potential, it becomes a natural reflex to expect a more dominant, more diverse and impressive game. While there are tight teams like Napoli, Roma, Milan and Udinese in the league this season, Inter needs to be shaken off and wake up from their bad time.

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Roma actually got some chances, but they failed to take advantage of them into goals. On the other hand, Atalanta had very few chances, but one of their chances turned out to be a goal. Actually I would prefer to say that AS Roma deserved to win the game, but the result was not in their favor. Scalvini's single goal in the first half could not be answered by the AS Roma players.

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Quote from: onecall123 on September 19, 2022, 01:40:06 AM

Honestly, I like how this Napoli team gives their all. The Away team Napoli beat AC Milan by 2-1 and their victory at the summit of Serie A sees them take the place of Atalanta at the top. In this season's Serie A, the title race is the most competitive. As the season progresses, one of the most underrated leagues has become increasingly enjoyable.

Milan who played at home (San Siro) was forced to give up by the visitors 1-2, due to the defeat in front of their own supporters Milan had to settle for being in 5th place. Napoli who have been impressive this season, did not experience any difficulties when playing at the San Siro, they were able to take advantage of opportunities as well as the acquisition of three points that brought them back to the top of the standing with a collection 17 point.
The quality of the Serie A team this season is very different from the previous few seasons, now Juventus is no longer a scary team, Inter is also not always consistent. The presence of new powers makes Serie A even more competitive and certainly not as boring as Ligue 1.

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Quote from: hahay on September 19, 2022, 02:09:03 AM

Congratulations to Monza who managed to get a win for the first time, what's even more great is that they managed to beat Juventus 1-0.

That's the reason why I dont bet on teams that are on a losing run because they on their good day, they can beat any team which Juventus was subjected to.

Quote from: hahay on September 19, 2022, 02:09:03 AM

Lol! I don't care about the red card because after all, Juventus are a team that clearly has good quality and even though they are playing with 10 player Juventus should be able to overcome that and still win the match against a team that had never won beforehand.

Red card or not, teams these days do win games with a man down and Juventus has to concede defeat on this one, congrats to Monza.

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