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I expected such a result from Mourinho's team, so I bet on the minimum victory (without any totals or negative handicaps). Mourinho's teams play too rational football, and in my opinion it's more reliable to play 3-1 than to try to keep it to the very end with a score of 1-0. Juventus disappointed, it was the last result in my multibet and it burned out.

With Mourinho, he does not priroritize beauty and sexy football. He needs points and tittles. Minimize conceded goals and know how to score goals and maintain leading goals to end with 3 points for each match.

Roma did had great chances to score more goals but 3 points are what they have. It is enough for them and enough to make Morinho happy.

In future, they must improve conversion rate from expected goals, great chances to real goals. It is important in big matches and it can decide what team will win big match and win Scudetto in the end.

I can't wait for the next round and the Juventus-Roma game. Juventus lost points in the game with an outsider and in order not to fall out of the championship race, they only need a victory. For Roma and Mourinho, this is an ideal option - I'm sure that they will sit on the defensive throughout the game, catching Juventus on the counterattacks. I can’t even imagine how this game will end, but it will be extremely difficult for Juventus.

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Quote from: lulumiya on August 24, 2022, 02:58:33 AM

Juventus game was indeed not satisfying for anyone. The number of goal attempts they had wasn't much different than the previous game. This time they weren't good enough to finish them up with goals. This look of Juventus make me doubt them about this season also. If we don't see any improvement they may not do better than finishing the season at the 3rd or 4th position. Pogba's absence is felt in their midfield maybe but I don't think it's the only reason.

I think their performance did not disappoint, they made 10 attempted shots and 4 shots on target, besides that they also dominated 53% possession in the match. Juventus were just unlucky because they missed the golden opportunities they created.

The absence of Pogba in the match is not a reason for them to lose, we can see from their match against Sassuolo, they can win easily even without Pogba. But of course, we'll see a better Juventus performance if Pogba later recovers from his injury.

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Quote from: lulumiya on August 24, 2022, 02:58:33 AM

Juventus game was indeed not satisfying for anyone. The number of goal attempts they had wasn't much different than the previous game. This time they weren't good enough to finish them up with goals. This look of Juventus make me doubt them about this season also. If we don't see any improvement they may not do better than finishing the season at the 3rd or 4th position. Pogba's absence is felt in their midfield maybe but I don't think it's the only reason.

It can be said that they are very dependent on pogba because when the game starts they the teams look weak and confused about determining the direction, at least they haven't got a defeat and maybe yesterday they preferred to play defensively as much as possible so as not to be conceded by the opponent and ended in a draw.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on August 23, 2022, 04:24:14 PM

Mourinho has a philosophy that all 3 points matters more than playinq very nice football nd losing the game. I'm certain that he will be furious with the number of chances missed by his team because scoring goals is important and vital to win games. If you get the opportunity, take it and get all three points. In the future they have to work more on their finishing and conversation rate.

Mourinho is an ambitious coach, he will be angry if his players waste many chances and fail to score goals. Mourinho is the type of coach who always demands his players to always look impressive in order to get a win at the end of the game. He do not care about beautiful games, the important thing is that his team do not lose in the match.
Next week Roma will fly to Turin to face Juventus, ahead of this big game Roma have good capital (2 wins in a row) at the start of the competition, while Juventus have just won a draw with Sampdoria. This match will be difficult for Juventus because many players are injured, while Roma come in good spirits, Mourinho men are well prepared for this match because they are on the right track.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 23, 2022, 09:05:24 PM

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Dropping two points against Sampdoria is not a good thing for Juventus. It looks like the absence of Angel Di Maria has had a big impact
on Juventus game.

They should have prepared a supplier/maker of a ball for Dusan which doesn't just depend on 1 person. So, If something happens or is received injured, a man on the center field Is a replacement. In this case, Juventus is look like lost a controller, as we can see Dusan only a few touch a ball and can't do anything as improve. So, are we need Pogba's recovery soon? or change the strategy?

Actually, Juventus doesn't rely on just one player, the problem is that some of Juventus creative players are injured. Not only is Angel Di Maria injured,
but Paul Pogba and Federico Chiesa are still recovering from injury. In fact, if Pogba and Chiesa can be played I believe the attack built by Juventus
will be more dangerous, and Dusan Vlahovic could have had more passes. Actually, Juventus still has Arthur Melo who is a midfielder who has
good creativity in building attacks. But Arthur Melo was not included in Allegri's plans this season, so Allegri chose to include Arthur on the selling list
and not play him. Unfortunately, Filip Kostic, who had just signed from Frankfurt, has not adapted well to the Juventus game, so his contribution is
still not optimal. Meanwhile, Manuel Locatelli, who is usually the mainstay of Juventus to channel the ball from the back line to the front line,
played below standard against Sampdoria. Conclusion Juventus do need Di Maria, Pogba and Chiesa to recover from injury as soon as possible.
Because I'm not sure Massimiliano Allegri wants to change his playing strategy by taking advantage of the players currently available.

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Quote from: lulumiya on August 24, 2022, 02:58:33 AM

Juventus game was indeed not satisfying for anyone. The number of goal attempts they had wasn't much different than the previous game. This time they weren't good enough to finish them up with goals. This look of Juventus make me doubt them about this season also. If we don't see any improvement they may not do better than finishing the season at the 3rd or 4th position. Pogba's absence is felt in their midfield maybe but I don't think it's the only reason.

It seems the problem is not about Pogba but about Angel Di Maria, in the first match Juventus basically doubted to win because many predicted about Sassuolo who sometimes managed to make it difficult for the favorite team. But the truth is, Juventus can win very well and at that time at least Di Maria was very important with the big win that Juventus got because Di Maria provided goals and also assisted. Then in the match against Sampdoria Di Maria could not be played due to injury, at least here we can see the difference in Juventus' undeveloped game in the middle row, making it difficult to penetrate.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on August 24, 2022, 02:58:09 AM

I think, Juventus coach need to work hard to improve the team in this season for their fans to believe that they have something good to achieve from this tournament. If Juventus strikers can make use of another strategies to play their next match, it will really help them to achieve their 3 points from their next match to encourage their managements that they have some good to offer to the team. Inter took a good step in this season that made many people to believed that they will go far in this season, because their performance is very good if they can be able to maintain their tactics they are using in this Italian league competition.

Before late and games still second week exactly Juventus need to change their games style, have bad performance last match just getting 1 points against with Sampdoria I think Juventus have playing more aggressive for next match faced with AS Roma. I watched last Juventus games against with Sampdoria, most boring because not try how to move ball on penalty against area, just passing only on their defensive area. Have several reason when Juventus held by Sampdoria last match because Angel Di Maria as superstar of first match for Juventus missing with injury, looks Juventus games play not really aggressive and Dušan Vlahović not ever get assist until difficult for scoring goals.

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Juventus game was indeed not satisfying for anyone. The number of goal attempts they had wasn't much different than the previous game. This time they weren't good enough to finish them up with goals. This look of Juventus make me doubt them about this season also. If we don't see any improvement they may not do better than finishing the season at the 3rd or 4th position. Pogba's absence is felt in their midfield maybe but I don't think it's the only reason.

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Juventus still have a long way to go before they return to an acceptable level. I think that will definitely take a few more matches. The competition benefits from it. We must also not forget that a gap has fallen in the back due to the departure of Bonucci and De Ligt, see if you can catch that. Okay, they managed to keep 0 in the last game, but what good is that if you don't score a single goal yourself? It's too soon to draw a conclusion, but Inter have started the season much more convincingly.

I think, Juventus coach need to work hard to improve the team in this season for their fans to believe that they have something good to achieve from this tournament. If Juventus strikers can make use of another strategies to play their next match, it will really help them to achieve their 3 points from their next match to encourage their managements that they have some good to offer to the team. Inter took a good step in this season that made many people to believed that they will go far in this season, because their performance is very good if they can be able to maintain their tactics they are using in this Italian league competition.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 23, 2022, 09:05:24 PM

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Dropping two points against Sampdoria is not a good thing for Juventus. It looks like the absence of Angel Di Maria has had a big impact
on Juventus game.

They should have prepared a supplier/maker of a ball for Dusan which doesn't just depend on 1 person. So, If something happens or is received injured, a man on the center field Is a replacement. In this case, Juventus is look like lost a controller, as we can see Dusan only a few touch a ball and can't do anything as improve. So, are we need Pogba's recovery soon? or change the strategy?

Juventus game is boring, It's natural to draw, and still lucky not to lose that match. Juve's problem is the lack of courage and ambition from the coach first, then the milfielders who are afraid to ask for the ball from the defenders. mckennie, locatelli, zakaria and rabiot have almost the same profile. No playmaking, no vertical passing from them.

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True. Milan played way much better but in my opinion , Atalanta had pure luck last night as even the goal they scored was with chance. Also , I didn't saw the Champion of serie A on the pitch last night because Ac.Milan performance was poor as well and if they want to keep that Serie A this year they will have to work as twice as much than last year because Juventus and Roma might be the great surprise of this season.

this season is a tougher season for AC Milan because the top teams have made better preparations, especially from Juventus and AS Roma. If Milan is only able to play like last season, I think the chance to win for Milan is very small. Indeed, it is still too early to say this is impossible for Milan, but Milan's preparation is slightly below the preparation of other top teams. IMO

Yes, I also noticed a tired team: I'm talking about Milan. I also noticed that the other teams are more aggressive, it will be a fun season in my view.
let's see what the future holds, a championship with many teams fighting for me amuses me ahah

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 24, 2022, 12:16:47 AM

Roma's performance has been pretty steady and consistent since the start of the season. They won the first two matches of the season. They won both matches 1-0. Maybe didn't win by a huge margin, but their performance was good enough. They will play with the goal of winning against Juventus. Roma's defence is very strong. Juventus does not seem to be able to score any goals in this match.

But clearly in this case Mourinho must improve their goal productivity.
At the moment the attacks are always good and create lots of opportunities in the matches they run but their goal productivity is quite weak so many opportunities are ultimately wasted because the players in their attack line cannot convert them into goals.
Training on their Finishing should be done in order to improve their current goal ratio.

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Even with Sampdoria, Juventus played a completely defensive strategy. Neither team could score, and the match ended in a goalless draw. I don't think Allegri will take any risk against AS Roma. Roma is strong this season. Even though it is Juventus' home match, Allegri will be happy with 1 point in this match. Both teams seem to play with poor defensive tactics. Mourinho also does not want to lose points.

I believe that the strategy adopted by Juventus is dictated by the emergency
We remind you that a lot of Juventus owners, unfortunately, are injured and therefore the team is really playing in an emergency
somehow they have to stop, even if I don't like it, it's a necessary thing if we want

The situation experienced by Juventus is almost the same as Liverpool, their biggest loss is because many main players are injured. Allegri had to install an emergency strategy to cover the empty space, but the strategy used was not very effective. Next Match Juventus will be tested by Mourinho troops who are in a positive trend, even though Juventus are playing at home, it is likely that they will have difficulty facing Roma who are performing very impressively at the start of this season.

Roma's performance has been pretty steady and consistent since the start of the season. They won the first two matches of the season. They won both matches 1-0. Maybe didn't win by a huge margin, but their performance was good enough. They will play with the goal of winning against Juventus. Roma's defence is very strong. Juventus does not seem to be able to score any goals in this match.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on August 23, 2022, 08:48:08 PM

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Yes, the main goal of the game of football is to win. I think Mourinho has something else in mind behind his philosophy which is to get the 3 points no matter what. Well the point is they have to play as well as they can, because how can they win 3 points if the players mess up? Not going in will not it? It is possible if their luck is very big, but it is impossible in all matches to rely on luck alone.

A soccer team wants to get a win in a match so it's not from luck, everything requires a strategy used to penetrate the opponent's defense, so far luck only follows the effort of the strategy used to compete, so maybe luck is considered a bonus and the effort is the result the good one.

I guess what I meant earlier was that, and my point is how can a team win if their game is messed up? If you win, it's luck.
Indeed, in football requires a strategy in order to get a win, and if it succeeds then it is their hard work in implementing the directed strategy. And one more thing, luck will always go hand in hand with victory.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 23, 2022, 09:05:24 PM

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Dropping two points against Sampdoria is not a good thing for Juventus. It looks like the absence of Angel Di Maria has had a big impact
on Juventus game.

They should have prepared a supplier/maker of a ball for Dusan which doesn't just depend on 1 person. So, If something happens or is received injured, a man on the center field Is a replacement. In this case, Juventus is look like lost a controller, as we can see Dusan only a few touch a ball and can't do anything as improve. So, are we need Pogba's recovery soon? or change the strategy?

Dusan Vlahovic looked like he cant play much in a big team like Juventus where the pressure is very high.If he cannot deliver in a big tram like Juventus,and in Italy, Is it in England that they have a very tough way of playing that he would be able to deliver?Because Arsenal were very interested in him as of last season,but he chose to go to Juventus because it is still in Italy.
I am happy that the deal did not materialise because if that deal had materialised,he would have been the worst in England,because England's pattern of football is very tough.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 23, 2022, 09:05:24 PM

Quote from: sayaya17 on August 23, 2022, 04:21:08 PM

Dropping two points against Sampdoria is not a good thing for Juventus. It looks like the absence of Angel Di Maria has had a big impact
on Juventus game.

They should have prepared a supplier/maker of a ball for Dusan which doesn't just depend on 1 person. So, If something happens or is received injured, a man on the center field Is a replacement. In this case, Juventus is look like lost a controller, as we can see Dusan only a few touch a ball and can't do anything as improve. So, are we need Pogba's recovery soon? or change the strategy?

I predicted that Juventus would win that match with a large margin because of their impressive win against Sassuolo. The Juventus midfielder needs to improve because they failed to control the game. There was no free flow of communication between the defence and midfield. But it was very impressive to see Sampdoria giving Juventus a big fight. The team created chances but were just unfortunate not to score. They deserve a point because they worked very hard to ensure that Juventus didn't create goal scoring chances.

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Quote from: sayaya17 on August 23, 2022, 04:21:08 PM

Dropping two points against Sampdoria is not a good thing for Juventus. It looks like the absence of Angel Di Maria has had a big impact
on Juventus game.

They should have prepared a supplier/maker of a ball for Dusan which doesn't just depend on 1 person. So, If something happens or is received injured, a man on the center field Is a replacement. In this case, Juventus is look like lost a controller, as we can see Dusan only a few touch a ball and can't do anything as improve. So, are we need Pogba's recovery soon? or change the strategy?

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Quote from: Fesatmas on August 23, 2022, 07:32:36 PM

Yes, the main goal of the game of football is to win. I think Mourinho has something else in mind behind his philosophy which is to get the 3 points no matter what. Well the point is they have to play as well as they can, because how can they win 3 points if the players mess up? Not going in will not it? It is possible if their luck is very big, but it is impossible in all matches to rely on luck alone.

A soccer team wants to get a win in a match so it's not from luck, everything requires a strategy used to penetrate the opponent's defense, so far luck only follows the effort of the strategy used to compete, so maybe luck is considered a bonus and the effort is the result the good one.

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Mourinho has a philosophy that all 3 points matters more than playinq very nice football nd losing the game. I'm certain that he will be furious with the number of chances missed by his team because scoring goals is important and vital to win games. If you get the opportunity, take it and get all three points. In the future they have to work more on their finishing and conversation rate.

Of course, Mourinho is very realistic. The essence of the match in this league is to get maximum points in each match. Why have a really great game and have more ball possession, but can't score goals, or score fewer goals and lose, or a drawn result? The final result of this match will determine how many points will be obtained.
Indeed, in this case, football will be more interesting if the game is very satisfying and the result is also satisfying with a win. It would be a perfect win.

Yes, the main goal of the game of football is to win. I think Mourinho has something else in mind behind his philosophy which is to get the 3 points no matter what. Well the point is they have to play as well as they can, because how can they win 3 points if the players mess up? Not going in will not it? It is possible if their luck is very big, but it is impossible in all matches to rely on luck alone.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on August 23, 2022, 04:24:14 PM

Mourinho has a philosophy that all 3 points matters more than playinq very nice football nd losing the game. I'm certain that he will be furious with the number of chances missed by his team because scoring goals is important and vital to win games. If you get the opportunity, take it and get all three points. In the future they have to work more on their finishing and conversation rate.

Of course, Mourinho is very realistic. The essence of the match in this league is to get maximum points in each match. Why have a really great game and have more ball possession, but can't score goals, or score fewer goals and lose, or a drawn result? The final result of this match will determine how many points will be obtained.
Indeed, in this case, football will be more interesting if the game is very satisfying and the result is also satisfying with a win. It would be a perfect win.

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