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He claimed to be a special one when he won the league title during his first season with the club he had just coached.
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Until now, Roma didn't face solid teams to judge about how much the team improved under his management. Sassuolo then Lazio game at the end of the month will gave an initial idea I would say but for sure October games vs Juve, Napoli and Milan will tell if Mourinho and Roma are serious enough to fight for the Scudetto or not.

Actually I see that what you say is very interesting, especially how it will be against a team like Juve after the departure of CR7, I understand that there are many expectations for the team, in my mind I still have the style of play of Roma of Francesco Totti, and Milan of Paolo Maldini, when I think about the scudetto for now I could not clearly say which team can be the most favorite to win, I feel that they are all on the same level. I think soccer is being treated much more like a huge business model, where for now we are much more aware of English and French soccer due to its stars of the moment, although the Italian Soccer style is a real delicacy, I think very exciting.

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Aye good news after good news, Chiesa got injured in the national game with Italy and he will skip the game versus Napoli.

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We have a Milan v Lazio match this weekend. This is a really tough match for each side and it will be very competitive. Both sides started really great by winning their first two matches. Milan have an advantage of playing home here of course. Milan defeated Lazio here by 3-2 in the last season. Zlatan is injured but he is expected to return tomorrow. Giroud has gotten covid-19 and his return date is unknown. I hope that Zlatan can be in the starting eleven in this match. In that case, I think that Milan can win here again.

Ac Milan is a big team in the Serie A, the same thing applied to Lazio. The match will indeed be a tough one for both teams. They have been in their best performance in their last matches this season. Lazio showed no mercy in their last match, they destroyed Spezia in both halves of the match, although, Spezia was the first to score. It won't be easy for Ac Milan to win against Lazio. However, is a home match for Milan, and that should high their morale.

The Serie A match between AC Milan vs Lazio is indeed in the spotlight this week, as both teams have won the previous two matches. Moreover,
both teams have good quality players, therefore the AC Milan vs Lazio match will be tough and both teams will try to win the match. But I pay more
attention to Lazio who two games before scored 9 goals, this proves their attack is very effective. But Ciro Immobile, who managed to score 4 goals
in two matches, was reportedly unable to appear against AC Milan. Immobile suffered an injury while defending Italy in the 2022 World Cup
qualifiers. Meanwhile, AC Milan received good news, because AC Milan will get a replacement for Olivier Giroud who is affected by COVID-19.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic has recovered from his injury and is ready to play against Lazio. AC Milan should have won the game with the return of Ibrahimovic,
let alone AC Milan playing at home, I predict AC Milan will win the match.

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it seems like Roma can be the right place for him to maybe even achieve something. Roma started really good to the season.

Yes, Mourinho started this season very well, he leads Roma to win 2 early matches already. For now, we can say he did good work and Roma is the right place for him. However, we must be aware that the two early matches are against weaker clubs. The real challenge is when they are against Juventus away on matchday 8. If Roma can win or draw against Juventus, we can judge Mourinho really suits Roma and has the chance to win the Serie A title. Let's see if what we are thinking about him in Roma is true. Wink

Yeah, they were not very serious opponents for Roma of course. We will see their performance in the more serious matches also. I would really like to see Roma bringing back their old days. Mourinho can be their biggest chance if things go on smoothly. The Serie A is a really tough league and it is not easy to become the champions. But after seeing Inter's breaking Juventus' dominance in the league, everything is possible. If Roma keep up the good work, this time they can make it.

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AS Roma filled by many young player and they not participant on champion league and I think positive side for Jose Mourinho give more motivate for AS Roma player to get trophy in this year. Although still dominance with Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli and AC Milan I think this season AS Roma have bigger chance exactly finish with good position on Serie A, maybe we have give chance and put AS Roma as favorite to get scudetto in this season because they have experience coach.

Agree that Maurinho is an experienced coach, he has won many titles with many big clubs, but he has also unsuccessful when he coached Tottenham. His big factors success is because it is supported by great players at the club he coaches, and it doesn't show at Roma so for the Scudetto it seems too heavy maybe what makes more sense is to make Roma able to play in the UCL next season or get better rank than previous seasons.

You miss remember when Jose Mourinho success got first trophy champion league on his career when become coach for FC Porto, do you know how many star player on Porto FC when Jose Mourinho as coach there, no one star label player there but Mourinho success defeat with bigger club like Manchester United until they success with champion league. I think Jose Mourinho keep the best coach with most experience just unlucky with Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United before because not success give domestic league trophy and champion league, how ever the special one Jose Mourinho will make surprise on AS Roma.

Roma did not get Mourinho so that they could be champions on the first year. They got him because they want to overachieve, obviously finishing in top 3-4 would be the ideal situation but even 5th is not horrible. If they could somehow put themselves back into champions league, then all of this Mourinho deal and all those transfers would make a lot of sense.

Plus, they are building a core with all those young players, if they can get the performance they want out of them they could be great in 2-3 seasons and not only win the league, but may have a team that wins the league, wins the cup and then go out of group stages in UCL as well. If you have a chance to turn from conference league team to that team in 2-3 season with single manager than you keep him. However if he gets bad results and ends up finishing low on standings then it could be bye bye time for Mourinho as well.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 09, 2021, 11:16:53 AM

We have a Milan v Lazio match this weekend. This is a really tough match for each side and it will be very competitive. Both sides started really great by winning their first two matches. Milan have an advantage of playing home here of course. Milan defeated Lazio here by 3-2 in the last season. Zlatan is injured but he is expected to return tomorrow. Giroud has gotten covid-19 and his return date is unknown. I hope that Zlatan can be in the starting eleven in this match. In that case, I think that Milan can win here again.

Ac Milan is a big team in the Serie A, the same thing applied to Lazio. The match will indeed be a tough one for both teams. They have been in their best performance in their last matches this season. Lazio showed no mercy in their last match, they destroyed Spezia in both halves of the match, although, Spezia was the first to score. It won't be easy for Ac Milan to win against Lazio. However, is a home match for Milan, and that should high their morale.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on September 08, 2021, 08:01:08 PM

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Not that much Bro. Sad to see Juventus encouraged as un under-dog despite all the potential it has.
Juventus is still powerful against napoli even without Ronaldo. When check statistics, except for the match played in last Februry when Napoli won, Napoli didn't win any match against Juventus since 2018.
Juventus didn't do well during the last two matches, but i think it still can compete with Napoli to get a good standing among the first five top clubs; it lost against Empoli [0:1] and a draw with Udinese [2:2] which i think are not a very rud results compared to Napoli who won the last two matches against two weak teams Venezia and Genoa which have less standings than Juventus .

Historical results tends to play very little role in future fixtures if the team that has been dominant in past years now have degraded performances and that something we've seen in this current Juventus team. The last two games have shown that even if they have a rich squad, overall team output and performance is generally bad if not their worst in recent years. That's why if Napoli do just enough to keep Juve's attacks at bay, they would have a clear shot at winning the match.

Sounds logic if we talk about random teams from any other championship or in the 2nd division. I made my view point based on historical results because it's Juventus as one of the best teams in the Italian league and in Europe in general. I can't deny the historical statistics only because Juventus is actually facing some troubles regarding some major players, as i believe Napoli may lose the match because its last two winnings were so easy against two weak teams (compared to Juventus and Napoli itself) and that Juventus will do its best to get a higher standing rank.
Honestly, i doubt that Juventus will lose the third match. At least, it can make more points to reach 5th or 6th place .

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Big game this week, Juventus will be lucky to end with a draw IMHo.

Saturday 11th September
Empoli 14:00 Venezia
Napoli 17:00 Juventus
Atalanta 19:45 Fiorentina
Sunday 12th September
Sampdoria 11:30 Inter Milan
Cagliari 14:00 Genoa
Spezia 14:00 Udinese
Torino 14:00 Salernitana
AC Milan 17:00 Lazio
Roma 19:45 Sassuolo
Monday 13th September
Bologna 19:45 Verona

Source: https://www.skysports.com/serie-a-fixtures

Too many missing players for national games, while in Napoli almost no one or nobody will miss.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on September 09, 2021, 11:25:10 AM

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Let's talk a little about the Napoli vs Juventus match which will take place on September 11. Napoli managed to win their previous two match against Venezia and Genoa. Meanwhile, after Ronaldo's departure, Juventus only managed to get 1 point from 2 match. This situation may make it difficult for Juventus to win because Napoli have good motivation before the match starts. Anything can still happen, I would be happy if Napoli were able to keep their win.

Against Juventus, Napoli also got some good news, their striker Victor Osimhen, who initially got a 2 game ban, got a reduction to 1 game. This means, Osimhen will be able to play against Juventus. Osimhen's presence will make Napoli more stronger. Juventus must pay attention to the movement of this player. Meanwhile, Juventus on bad conditions, Dybala, Sandro, Danilo, and several America players are likely to return on Friday. maybe this will be a reason for Juventus to not to playing them.

Napoli is a strong team. I don't see a chance of winning against them if Juventus can't play at full strength. Moreover, Ronaldo, the main scorer of Juventus, is no more. Juventus will not be able to win if players like Dybala and Danilo do not perform. They will lose 3 points in this match.

Napoli is definitely the favorite in this match. Played 2 matches this season. In both cases they have performed well and won. But Juventus have not won a match so far this season. They have lost against teams like Empoli. In this match, I will bet on Napoli's victory. I believe Napoli will win this match.

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Quote from: masulum on September 09, 2021, 09:41:22 AM

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Let's talk a little about the Napoli vs Juventus match which will take place on September 11. Napoli managed to win their previous two match against Venezia and Genoa. Meanwhile, after Ronaldo's departure, Juventus only managed to get 1 point from 2 match. This situation may make it difficult for Juventus to win because Napoli have good motivation before the match starts. Anything can still happen, I would be happy if Napoli were able to keep their win.

Against Juventus, Napoli also got some good news, their striker Victor Osimhen, who initially got a 2 game ban, got a reduction to 1 game. This means, Osimhen will be able to play against Juventus. Osimhen's presence will make Napoli more stronger. Juventus must pay attention to the movement of this player. Meanwhile, Juventus on bad conditions, Dybala, Sandro, Danilo, and several America players are likely to return on Friday. maybe this will be a reason for Juventus to not to playing them.

Napoli is a strong team. I don't see a chance of winning against them if Juventus can't play at full strength. Moreover, Ronaldo, the main scorer of Juventus, is no more. Juventus will not be able to win if players like Dybala and Danilo do not perform. They will lose 3 points in this match.

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We have a Milan v Lazio match this weekend. This is a really tough match for each side and it will be very competitive. Both sides started really great by winning their first two matches. Milan have an advantage of playing home here of course. Milan defeated Lazio here by 3-2 in the last season. Zlatan is injured but he is expected to return tomorrow. Giroud has gotten covid-19 and his return date is unknown. I hope that Zlatan can be in the starting eleven in this match. In that case, I think that Milan can win here again.

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AS Roma filled by many young player and they not participant on champion league and I think positive side for Jose Mourinho give more motivate for AS Roma player to get trophy in this year. Although still dominance with Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli and AC Milan I think this season AS Roma have bigger chance exactly finish with good position on Serie A, maybe we have give chance and put AS Roma as favorite to get scudetto in this season because they have experience coach.

Agree that Maurinho is an experienced coach, he has won many titles with many big clubs, but he has also unsuccessful when he coached Tottenham. His big factors success is because it is supported by great players at the club he coaches, and it doesn't show at Roma so for the Scudetto it seems too heavy maybe what makes more sense is to make Roma able to play in the UCL next season or get better rank than previous seasons.

You miss remember when Jose Mourinho success got first trophy champion league on his career when become coach for FC Porto, do you know how many star player on Porto FC when Jose Mourinho as coach there, no one star label player there but Mourinho success defeat with bigger club like Manchester United until they success with champion league. I think Jose Mourinho keep the best coach with most experience just unlucky with Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United before because not success give domestic league trophy and champion league, how ever the special one Jose Mourinho will make surprise on AS Roma.

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Quote from: ShowOff on September 09, 2021, 05:42:59 AM

Let's talk a little about the Napoli vs Juventus match which will take place on September 11. Napoli managed to win their previous two match against Venezia and Genoa. Meanwhile, after Ronaldo's departure, Juventus only managed to get 1 point from 2 match. This situation may make it difficult for Juventus to win because Napoli have good motivation before the match starts. Anything can still happen, I would be happy if Napoli were able to keep their win.

Against Juventus, Napoli also got some good news, their striker Victor Osimhen, who initially got a 2 game ban, got a reduction to 1 game. This means, Osimhen will be able to play against Juventus. Osimhen's presence will make Napoli more stronger. Juventus must pay attention to the movement of this player. Meanwhile, Juventus on bad conditions, Dybala, Sandro, Danilo, and several America players are likely to return on Friday. maybe this will be a reason for Juventus to not to playing them.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 09, 2021, 05:05:42 AM

AS Roma filled by many young player and they not participant on champion league and I think positive side for Jose Mourinho give more motivate for AS Roma player to get trophy in this year. Although still dominance with Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli and AC Milan I think this season AS Roma have bigger chance exactly finish with good position on Serie A, maybe we have give chance and put AS Roma as favorite to get scudetto in this season because they have experience coach.

two weeks since the Italian League took place so far, Mourinho led Roma to two wins and made As Roma third in standings with a collection of six points, and so far As Roma performance in the league is quite consistent in my opinion, but of course if As roma wants to be a contender to win This season's Scudetto, AS Roma should be able to get full points when facing other big teams.

Quote from: Iranus on September 09, 2021, 05:32:09 AM

Roma has a chance. Since they do not have to play in the Champions League, they will be able to focus entirely on the Seria A title. However, if they want to win the title, they have to show good performance against a strong team. Points cannot be lost against Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus.

In addition to playing in Serie A, if I'm not mistaken As Roma currently also plays in the European Conference League, namely the UEFA third league, and although it is not as strict as the Champions League, of course they also have matches outside the domestic league so it will make their players a little tired if without proper player rotation.

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Let's talk a little about the Napoli vs Juventus match which will take place on September 11. Napoli managed to win their previous two match against Venezia and Genoa. Meanwhile, after Ronaldo's departure, Juventus only managed to get 1 point from 2 match. This situation may make it difficult for Juventus to win because Napoli have good motivation before the match starts. Anything can still happen, I would be happy if Napoli were able to keep their win.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 08, 2021, 06:58:15 PM

Yes, Mourinho started this season very well, he leads Roma to win 2 early matches already. For now, we can say he did good work and Roma is the right place for him. However, we must be aware that the two early matches are against weaker clubs. The real challenge is when they are against Juventus away on matchday 8. If Roma can win or draw against Juventus, we can judge Mourinho really suits Roma and has the chance to win the Serie A title. Let's see if what we are thinking about him in Roma is true. Wink

Roma in history is known for well attacking ability. They don't have problem with goals and they only have issues with defense system. It is too soon to conclude that Mourinho has improved the defense of Roma, after a few months there.

I have belief that he will achieve this important purpose because he is professional with defensive tactic. When he achieves this, Roma will have good rank on the table.

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How about Roma vs Lazio?

Lazio have also won 2 match earlier this season and they are the current leader of the table. Besides Juventus, I think Lazio will also be a match that can prove that Mourinho is worthy of managing Roma. Without excluding other teams on matchday 3-5 then I believe Roma vs Lazio will be a good match too. I don't know, I don't think Mourinho deserves to be tested anymore when he's in charge of a team because he's had a good career before with several teams in Portugal, England, Spain and Italy.

The next match for Roma is with Sassuolo, not with Lazio.

Lazio and Roma have good start in Serie A but Lazio depends on Immobile and Roma has more players who scored goals so far. I know only two matches are not enough to conclude anything. Will Lazio and Roma bring the time of seasons 2000 - 2001 back? Back in the years, they are top candidates for Scudetto in Serie A. Lazio won it in 1999 -2000, Roma won it in 2000 - 2001 seasons.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 09, 2021, 05:05:42 AM

AS Roma filled by many young player and they not participant on champion league and I think positive side for Jose Mourinho give more motivate for AS Roma player to get trophy in this year. Although still dominance with Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli and AC Milan I think this season AS Roma have bigger chance exactly finish with good position on Serie A, maybe we have give chance and put AS Roma as favorite to get scudetto in this season because they have experience coach.

Roma has a chance. Since they do not have to play in the Champions League, they will be able to focus entirely on the Seria A title. However, if they want to win the title, they have to show good performance against a strong team. Points cannot be lost against Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 09, 2021, 05:05:42 AM

AS Roma filled by many young player and they not participant on champion league and I think positive side for Jose Mourinho give more motivate for AS Roma player to get trophy in this year. Although still dominance with Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli and AC Milan I think this season AS Roma have bigger chance exactly finish with good position on Serie A, maybe we have give chance and put AS Roma as favorite to get scudetto in this season because they have experience coach.

Agree that Maurinho is an experienced coach, he has won many titles with many big clubs, but he has also unsuccessful when he coached Tottenham. His big factors success is because it is supported by great players at the club he coaches, and it doesn't show at Roma so for the Scudetto it seems too heavy maybe what makes more sense is to make Roma able to play in the UCL next season or get better rank than previous seasons.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 08, 2021, 06:58:15 PM

Yes, Mourinho started this season very well, he leads Roma to win 2 early matches already. For now, we can say he did good work and Roma is the right place for him. However, we must be aware that the two early matches are against weaker clubs. The real challenge is when they are against Juventus away on matchday 8. If Roma can win or draw against Juventus, we can judge Mourinho really suits Roma and has the chance to win the Serie A title. Let's see if what we are thinking about him in Roma is true. Wink

How about Roma vs Lazio?

Lazio have also won 2 match earlier this season and they are the current leader of the table. Besides Juventus, I think Lazio will also be a match that can prove that Mourinho is worthy of managing Roma. Without excluding other teams on matchday 3-5 then I believe Roma vs Lazio will be a good match too. I don't know, I don't think Mourinho deserves to be tested anymore when he's in charge of a team because he's had a good career before with several teams in Portugal, England, Spain and Italy.

Mourinho is very experienced. There is no doubt about this. But the Roma squad is not strong enough. The coach will determine the plan and strategy of the match. But winning the match is not easy without experienced skilled players in the team. While Roma’s performances are stable enough, they can’t win against strong teams. So they are lagging behind in the fight to win the title.

AS Roma filled by many young player and they not participant on champion league and I think positive side for Jose Mourinho give more motivate for AS Roma player to get trophy in this year. Although still dominance with Inter Milan, Juventus, Napoli and AC Milan I think this season AS Roma have bigger chance exactly finish with good position on Serie A, maybe we have give chance and put AS Roma as favorite to get scudetto in this season because they have experience coach.

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Quote from: joker_josue on September 09, 2021, 03:04:14 AM

He was the first of a new style of coach that we see today, and one that has transformed football into an even bigger spectacle.
Although Mourinho has a very unique style, I think this season at Roma, he is trying to show something a little different from what we are used to seeing in him.

That's true and he has to adapt his tactics to Serie A. Unlike the Premier League, I see Italy dominating defense and short games compared to the pace in the Premier League. In 2 matches, Roma managed to score 7 goals and only conceded 1 goal. Good stats to start the new season for Roma. We'll see how Mourinho and Roma can win the next game. Serie A has a lot of strong enough teams so it will be difficult to see Roma always consistent.

Quote from: Iranus on September 09, 2021, 03:23:01 AM

Mourinho is very experienced. There is no doubt about this. But the Roma squad is not strong enough.

Of course, this is a difficult job for Mourinho. But he doesn't come to watch his team play, he gets paid to allow his team to compete with all the other teams. Despite his past successes and failures to win the title, he is not the only one to be held responsible for it.

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