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I personally don't really believe in that and on the contrary, I believe Juventus will improve with time. Just look at when Juventus can get titles for 9 consecutive seasons, basically Juventus can win many titles even before Ronaldo is at Juventus. Therefore, I do not believe that Juventus' defeat in their last match yesterday was not due to the loss of Ronaldo, I feel that Allegri still needs time to return Juventus to their former glory.

I still remember everyone trolling Ronaldo that he is the problem of Juventus. The truth is that the Juventus of today isn't the Juventus we use to know, Their midfield is shit, They lack the spirit to fight and win,Always playing back pass.
If they win its Team work, If they loose the problem is Ronaldo

in recent days the news about juventus is related to the departure of cristiano ronaldo, this is not a good thing, even barcelona, who was dependent on messi for years, managed to overcome messi's departure very quickly and are no longer thinking about the past when they had messi, but juventus is creating quarrels, I read the news in portuguese that Massimiliano Allegri would have been angry with the president of juventus for the departure of ronaldo and Allegri said that Moise Kean is not able to bring the same results as cristiano ronaldo brought, this is a problem of serious disagreement that juventus are having and that they must quickly overcome for the good of the team.

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Two news from Milan: AC Milan temporarily loses Olivier Giroud because the French forward has tested positive for Covid, as the club has officially announced. He has tested positive to a molecular swab carried out at home.
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This is bad news when Milan have to appear without Giroud. Luckily, according to AC Milan's release, Giroud did not make contact with other players, after the match against Cagliari, so other players are safe. i think with Giroud, Milan still have a chance to win the matches, but for now, it will be more difficult to see Milan win, draw is a good results without their key striker. Well, Ibrahimovic, maybe can be played starting this month, can't wait he comeback.

It's been reported that Ibrahimovic is ready for the match with Lazio in place of Giround who is the main striker but this was an accident where Giround had to test positive for Covid-19 so it will be out for a few weeks until he recovers.
Lazio is not an easy opponent to beat Milan so Ibrahimovic should be able to minimize for his 3 points victory, but I do think Ibrahimovic can still be relied on as a striker at this time.
Ibrahimovic's comeback will be something more if Milan win.

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Quote from: acquafredda on September 02, 2021, 09:01:25 AM

Two news from Milan: AC Milan temporarily loses Olivier Giroud because the French forward has tested positive for Covid, as the club has officially announced. He has tested positive to a molecular swab carried out at home.
On the other hand, Milan sees Timouè Bakayoko comeback after two years. The French midfielder, who chose the number 41 shirt, appeared at a press conference in Milanello after leaving SSC Napoli.

Of course this is quite bad news for AC Milan, because they have to lose a player who is currently in consistent form in scoring goals against the opponent, and of course he will miss the match against Lazio on Sunday, according to reports, giroud will quarantine for 2 weeks and automatically it looks like he will missed 2 matches ac milan.

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Quote from: acquafredda on September 02, 2021, 09:01:25 AM

Two news from Milan: AC Milan temporarily loses Olivier Giroud because the French forward has tested positive for Covid, as the club has officially announced. He has tested positive to a molecular swab carried out at home.
On the other hand, Milan sees Timouè Bakayoko comeback after two years. The French midfielder, who chose the number 41 shirt, appeared at a press conference in Milanello after leaving SSC Napoli.

Milain didn't use the mercato to get the necessary quality.
It's true that they signed with a sufficient number of players, but it lacks sufficient quality in order to return to competition in the league and champions in particular. Certainly, the success or quality of the deals can only be judged after the players' participation and performance with their new teams.
But on paper, there are preliminary indicators as a result of the player's previous performance, his status as a primary or alternative, and his age (these indicators do not necessarily have to be completely correct) give optimism on paper or not. With this team owned by Stefano Pioli, it will be difficult to think that Milan is able to go places in the league and champions.

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Quote from: acquafredda on September 02, 2021, 09:01:25 AM

Two news from Milan: AC Milan temporarily loses Olivier Giroud because the French forward has tested positive for Covid, as the club has officially announced. He has tested positive to a molecular swab carried out at home.
-snip-

This is bad news when Milan have to appear without Giroud. Luckily, according to AC Milan's release, Giroud did not make contact with other players, after the match against Cagliari, so other players are safe. i think with Giroud, Milan still have a chance to win the matches, but for now, it will be more difficult to see Milan win, draw is a good results without their key striker. Well, Ibrahimovic, maybe can be played starting this month, can't wait he comeback.

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Two news from Milan: AC Milan temporarily loses Olivier Giroud because the French forward has tested positive for Covid, as the club has officially announced. He has tested positive to a molecular swab carried out at home.
On the other hand, Milan sees Timouè Bakayoko comeback after two years. The French midfielder, who chose the number 41 shirt, appeared at a press conference in Milanello after leaving SSC Napoli.

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I personally don't really believe in that and on the contrary, I believe Juventus will improve with time. Just look at when Juventus can get titles for 9 consecutive seasons, basically Juventus can win many titles even before Ronaldo is at Juventus. Therefore, I do not believe that Juventus' defeat in their last match yesterday was not due to the loss of Ronaldo, I feel that Allegri still needs time to return Juventus to their former glory.

I still remember everyone trolling Ronaldo that he is the problem of Juventus. The truth is that the Juventus of today isn't the Juventus we use to know, Their midfield is shit, They lack the spirit to fight and win,Always playing back pass.
If they win its Team work, If they loose the problem is Ronaldo

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Quote from: hahay on September 02, 2021, 01:41:42 AM

I personally don't really believe in that and on the contrary, I believe Juventus will improve with time. Just look at when Juventus can get titles for 9 consecutive seasons, basically Juventus can win many titles even before Ronaldo is at Juventus. Therefore, I do not believe that Juventus' defeat in their last match yesterday was not due to the loss of Ronaldo, I feel that Allegri still needs time to return Juventus to their former glory.

I absolutely agree with you
the problem is a normal management change and gear change, it is not a CR7 related problem
you have to wait a few weeks to see the results, you can't do it like Inter Milan of years ago (Moratti management) who changed coaches every month (it's not healthy)

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This means that this has a big influence after Ronaldo left, Juventus is like a lot of pressure that can't win in 2 games, I know this is just the beginning but who knows Allegri can change it over time this season.

I read in my local online media, that Ronaldo's departure from Juve gave many disappointments to other players, Ronaldo is not only a star but also a role model for his teammates, and his contribution is very big in all the teams where he plays, if the issues inside Juventus can't be fixed soon, maybe they won't be able to do much in the league or CL.

I personally don't really believe in that and on the contrary, I believe Juventus will improve with time. Just look at when Juventus can get titles for 9 consecutive seasons, basically Juventus can win many titles even before Ronaldo is at Juventus. Therefore, I do not believe that Juventus' defeat in their last match yesterday was not due to the loss of Ronaldo, I feel that Allegri still needs time to return Juventus to their former glory.

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Quote from: Raflesia on September 01, 2021, 03:40:37 PM

This means that this has a big influence after Ronaldo left, Juventus is like a lot of pressure that can't win in 2 games, I know this is just the beginning but who knows Allegri can change it over time this season.

I read in my local online media, that Ronaldo's departure from Juve gave many disappointments to other players, Ronaldo is not only a star but also a role model for his teammates, and his contribution is very big in all the teams where he plays, if the issues inside Juventus can't be fixed soon, maybe they won't be able to do much in the league or CL.

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I think Manchester City is better choice for him to win Champions League because they have better squad and coach. Pep has more experience in Champions League than Ole. I believe this return was affected by Sir Alex.

Ronaldo may not have turned down Manchester City, but City are no longer interested in Ronaldo and that's what canceled his transfer to Manchester City. I don't think his decision to join his old team was wrong, he was welcomed by the fans and the people in the team. He will help Manchester United to get any title including the champions league title. Sir Alex missed him so much and that's what made Ronaldo back there.

After Ronaldo moved from Juventus to Manchester United I saw Juventus look very fragile and difficult to win match. So far they have only managed to collect 1 point from 2 Serie-A match and they are very unstable. Ranked 12th in the standings, Juventus are clearly under a lot of pressure.

I know Ronaldo is not uninterested in Mancity to win the title with him but Ronaldo chose Man United because the old team missed him, so this is the right choice even if it is still far from the trophy, but this possibility can happen.

This means that this has a big influence after Ronaldo left, Juventus is like a lot of pressure that can't win in 2 games, I know this is just the beginning but who knows Allegri can change it over time this season.

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Serie A, after two matches, are very interesting and the biggest surprise is from AS Roma and Jose Mourinho. They manage to win all matches and take 6 points. Their attacking system operates very well in their first matches in this season, in Serie A and UEFA Conference Cup.

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Two smooth matches and ended in victory for Mourinho. I think it's a pretty good debut for him. I don't think for the first game he will win while the second game I think they have to win. The season is still long, I think we will still witness the strength and level of stability of the league's participants. Coaches and players who can stabilize the team I think it would be better to end the league. Maybe I will wait for their proof against Juve, Inter, Milan or Napoli. If they can win that's great.

Long way to go and Mou need to prove that he is still deserved the title "The Special One". His coaching career was not good for years after failed to give the best for several different clubs. Now he is in another new club with a good start and if he can keep up the good work with Roma (at least to be top 4 at the end of the season), it will boost his popularity back to what he used to have in the past.

I would really like to see Jose Mourinho going back to old times by being successful at Roma. Because his performance with Tottenham was really poor. He was at the centre of all the criticism and people were really right about it also. Because his system wasn't working with that team, it was obvious. However, we may see a much powerful Roma in this season considering the games so far.

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 01, 2021, 10:01:17 AM

Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on August 30, 2021, 06:17:41 AM

Serie A, after two matches, are very interesting and the biggest surprise is from AS Roma and Jose Mourinho. They manage to win all matches and take 6 points. Their attacking system operates very well in their first matches in this season, in Serie A and UEFA Conference Cup.

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Two smooth matches and ended in victory for Mourinho. I think it's a pretty good debut for him. I don't think for the first game he will win while the second game I think they have to win. The season is still long, I think we will still witness the strength and level of stability of the league's participants. Coaches and players who can stabilize the team I think it would be better to end the league. Maybe I will wait for their proof against Juve, Inter, Milan or Napoli. If they can win that's great.

Long way to go and Mou need to prove that he is still deserved the title "The Special One". His coaching career was not good for years after failed to give the best for several different clubs. Now he is in another new club with a good start and if he can keep up the good work with Roma (at least to be top 4 at the end of the season), it will boost his popularity back to what he used to have in the past.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 01, 2021, 08:03:21 AM

In two matches in Serie A AC Milan managed to beat Sampdoria and Cagliari, both are not big teams, so it's too early to think AC Milan has
played well. AC Milan in the third week will face Lazio, which I think Lazio is a strong team. If AC Milan manages to beat Lazio, it can provide
a bit of evidence that AC Milan should be counted as one of the candidates for Serie A champions I want to see Giroud play alongside Ibrahimovic,
I can imagine that if the two of them can be deployed together, AC Milan's front line will be more productive and scary for the opposing team.

Yep, we can remember what happened with AC Milan last season, they dominated the game at the beginning of the season, however, in the second half, they seemed to lose their game. However, it is undeniable that Giroud still gives hope for AC Milan this season, at least to keep Milan's position in the top 3. Milan this season got 11 players, both transfers and loans, the question is, how effective is the transfer of Milan this season with 1 new squad of players.

Olivier Giroud is a decent player to be honest, a decent forward despite his old age (34). However, Luis Suarez is also old now but he is still a goal machine. So, the age doesn't determine the performance of a player all the time. Giroud scored 11 goals in 31 matches at Chelsea last season. But he didn't play in the starting eleven in all of them also. And at Milan, he started with 2 goals in 2 matches already. Maybe he will have a very productive year at least in this season and help the team a lot.

Indeed Olivier Giroud is a good player and he can help any team but EPL isn't Serie A and I don't know if he can hold on to such a "hard" league. Chelsea protects him in a way and never starts any game as you said, in Milan though he is in the starting lineup but for how long? He will manage to be in such form and who will replace him when he will be tired from the day-by-day matches? Age is a big factor. Undecided

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Quote from: masulum on September 01, 2021, 11:58:40 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 01, 2021, 08:03:21 AM

In two matches in Serie A AC Milan managed to beat Sampdoria and Cagliari, both are not big teams, so it's too early to think AC Milan has
played well. AC Milan in the third week will face Lazio, which I think Lazio is a strong team. If AC Milan manages to beat Lazio, it can provide
a bit of evidence that AC Milan should be counted as one of the candidates for Serie A champions I want to see Giroud play alongside Ibrahimovic,
I can imagine that if the two of them can be deployed together, AC Milan's front line will be more productive and scary for the opposing team.

Yep, we can remember what happened with AC Milan last season, they dominated the game at the beginning of the season, however, in the second half, they seemed to lose their game. However, it is undeniable that Giroud still gives hope for AC Milan this season, at least to keep Milan's position in the top 3. Milan this season got 11 players, both transfers and loans, the question is, how effective is the transfer of Milan this season with 1 new squad of players.

Olivier Giroud is a decent player to be honest, a decent forward despite his old age (34). However, Luis Suarez is also old now but he is still a goal machine. So, the age doesn't determine the performance of a player all the time. Giroud scored 11 goals in 31 matches at Chelsea last season. But he didn't play in the starting eleven in all of them also. And at Milan, he started with 2 goals in 2 matches already. Maybe he will have a very productive year at least in this season and help the team a lot.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 01, 2021, 11:35:14 AM

I think Manchester City is better choice for him to win Champions League because they have better squad and coach. Pep has more experience in Champions League than Ole. I believe this return was affected by Sir Alex.

Ronaldo may not have turned down Manchester City, but City are no longer interested in Ronaldo and that's what canceled his transfer to Manchester City. I don't think his decision to join his old team was wrong, he was welcomed by the fans and the people in the team. He will help Manchester United to get any title including the champions league title. Sir Alex missed him so much and that's what made Ronaldo back there.

After Ronaldo moved from Juventus to Manchester United I saw Juventus look very fragile and difficult to win match. So far they have only managed to collect 1 point from 2 Serie-A match and they are very unstable. Ranked 12th in the standings, Juventus are clearly under a lot of pressure.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 01, 2021, 08:03:21 AM

In two matches in Serie A AC Milan managed to beat Sampdoria and Cagliari, both are not big teams, so it's too early to think AC Milan has
played well. AC Milan in the third week will face Lazio, which I think Lazio is a strong team. If AC Milan manages to beat Lazio, it can provide
a bit of evidence that AC Milan should be counted as one of the candidates for Serie A champions I want to see Giroud play alongside Ibrahimovic,
I can imagine that if the two of them can be deployed together, AC Milan's front line will be more productive and scary for the opposing team.

Yep, we can remember what happened with AC Milan last season, they dominated the game at the beginning of the season, however, in the second half, they seemed to lose their game. However, it is undeniable that Giroud still gives hope for AC Milan this season, at least to keep Milan's position in the top 3. Milan this season got 11 players, both transfers and loans, the question is, how effective is the transfer of Milan this season with 1 new squad of players.

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Quote from: asus09 on September 01, 2021, 10:03:27 AM

Not really yet without Cristiano Ronaldo failed in champion league, looks last several season they always failed on knock out champion league round although with Cristiano Ronaldo, never success to semi final or final when Juventus with Ronaldo, maybe without Ronaldo they can talk more again in champion league how ever Allegri ever success give final position for Juventus before defeat by Barcelona.

Juventus were lack of something in last two seasons in Champions League. They are not weak but they failed because of one home-away goal, something like that. Ronaldo to be fair, did not have good contributions for Juventus in Champions League. He scored very little goals in Champions League after leaving Real Madrid.

Quote from: snipie on September 01, 2021, 10:05:45 AM

CR7 wants title, he wants to be the best player, the best scorer, the champion who leaded his team to win Scudetto, CL... After Real Madrid, he was stuck with nothing so seeing him jumping off the boat wasn't surprising for me and expected it to happen since he moved his cars out of Italy few months ago. The only thing that made him angry and obliged to remains with Juve is the fact that no one wants to hire him until City failed to convince Spurs then ManU stepped and caught him to avoid seeing its star playing with their classic rival.

He is obsessed with titles and the most ambitious goal for him is Champions League and Ballon d'Or. I can not understand why Ronaldo decided to return to Old Trafford and Manchester United. Because the club is not strong to compete Premier League or Champions League. With Ronaldo, they can win Premier League but Champions League is harder and nearly impossible.

I think Manchester City is better choice for him to win Champions League because they have better squad and coach. Pep has more experience in Champions League than Ole. I believe this return was affected by Sir Alex.

I think that Ronaldo already know that he would be able to win the Champions League title at Manchester City much easier than being at Manchester United. Manchester City have a much better game plan and discipline compared to Manchester United. Maybe Ronaldo would have some difficulty in fitting Guardiola's system but he would manage after some time.

However, City changed their mind and pulled out of the deal. Then, Manchester United made the offer needed and signed him. If he didn't want to go there, things would be worse for him at Juventus.

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Quote from: joker_josue on September 01, 2021, 07:27:52 AM

Ronaldo takes the Juventus team on his back. If not for him, they wouldn't even have finished second in Serie A last year.
Now, without Ronaldo, they really have to organize themselves and be more consistent, otherwise they will have a difficult season.

I have to say that the reality is the fact that when you have a player like Ronaldo, then you do let him carry your team because it is such an amazing thing, it is obvious that people end up being a bit more reliant on their best players because they can be and it provides results as well. Now that Ronaldo is gone, it is just a bad thing, it could also be a good thing if they can use this very well. How could it be a good thing?

Well, they could now remove all the responsibilities that Ronaldo had, and they would be able to distribute that to the whole team and they could work hard all together instead of just hoping that one player could win them the game. This will take some time of course, maybe this year will suck, but I know that if they could become 11 man team all playing like a machine, then they could become a very well team that wins a lot once again.

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Quote from: asus09 on September 01, 2021, 10:03:27 AM

Not really yet without Cristiano Ronaldo failed in champion league, looks last several season they always failed on knock out champion league round although with Cristiano Ronaldo, never success to semi final or final when Juventus with Ronaldo, maybe without Ronaldo they can talk more again in champion league how ever Allegri ever success give final position for Juventus before defeat by Barcelona.

Juventus were lack of something in last two seasons in Champions League. They are not weak but they failed because of one home-away goal, something like that. Ronaldo to be fair, did not have good contributions for Juventus in Champions League. He scored very little goals in Champions League after leaving Real Madrid.

Quote from: snipie on September 01, 2021, 10:05:45 AM

CR7 wants title, he wants to be the best player, the best scorer, the champion who leaded his team to win Scudetto, CL... After Real Madrid, he was stuck with nothing so seeing him jumping off the boat wasn't surprising for me and expected it to happen since he moved his cars out of Italy few months ago. The only thing that made him angry and obliged to remains with Juve is the fact that no one wants to hire him until City failed to convince Spurs then ManU stepped and caught him to avoid seeing its star playing with their classic rival.

He is obsessed with titles and the most ambitious goal for him is Champions League and Ballon d'Or. I can not understand why Ronaldo decided to return to Old Trafford and Manchester United. Because the club is not strong to compete Premier League or Champions League. With Ronaldo, they can win Premier League but Champions League is harder and nearly impossible.

I think Manchester City is better choice for him to win Champions League because they have better squad and coach. Pep has more experience in Champions League than Ole. I believe this return was affected by Sir Alex.

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