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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on October 12, 2024, 05:06:36 PM

Next week we have 2 interesting matches from Serie A Juventus vs Lazio and AS Roma vs Inter Milan well Juventus and Lazio have the same points and both teams compete to secure positions in the Top 4 as a home team Juventus have the advantage to get 3 points but we know it's not easy.

The AS Roma vs Inter Milan game will be very interesting because Inter will be tested. Unlike last season when they were consistent, this season I have the impression that Inter are not as good as last season. In 7 games they won 4, drew 2 and lost 1. They will play against an opponent who is lucky to have a good defense, but they have a terrible attack. So in my opinion this will be a game where Inter's attack will be put to the test. Roma will probably play defensively to get out of this game with a draw. And I won't be surprised if the game ends in a draw. about the game between Juventus and Lazio Lazio, Juventus is similar to Roma. So I also expect a draw. I don't expect much from Juventus

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Quote from: legendbtc on October 11, 2024, 06:53:36 PM

Quote from: TelolettOm on October 11, 2024, 06:32:26 PM

but indeed the talks between Juventus and Pogba have been very clear regarding the contract termination which will likely be carried out soon. and Poga will become a free agent.

I can confirm that Juventus are in talks with Paul Pogba and his representatives. The decision is clear, they just need to finalize the terms. Pogba will leave Juventus and become a free agent.

This is the information I have read.
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/13973953/paul-pogba-transfer-man-utd-ban-appeal/

Yes, I've also edited this.
Just waiting for the D-day of the signing of the contract termination between the two parties, because at this time, they are still in discussion. We can't blame Juventus, because after all, they are focusing on the recent squad and they are getting better. And for Pogba, he is very lucky to get leniency because CAS considered Pogba's argument regarding the supplement issue. Hope they will get better in the future.

Quote from: Warkop on October 12, 2024, 12:27:57 AM

Maybe somewhere else there will be a club that can bring Pogba back to his glory, it's just a matter of time for everything Pogba has gone through with his career when he returns to play as a Juventus player,

There has been some speculation about where Pogba will go as a free agent. It was previously reported that he could be heading to MLS. But the latest rumor is that Marseille want him and they are in talks. It would make sense for him to go to Marseille and he would be reunited with his former teammate Mason Greenwood there.

Source: Mason Greenwood 'to get Paul Pogba reunion

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Quote from: Weawant on October 12, 2024, 04:40:09 PM

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The presence of De Gea in Fiorentina does have a big influence on the match, because if Fiorentina does not play De Gea in the match I am sure Fiorentina will lose. Because anyway, based on the head to head results, at least Milan beat Fiorentina quite often but at that moment Milan failed despite dominating the match well. Fiorentina managed to make Milan get a deadlock, despite having two penalty kicks but De Gea managed to handle it very well.

To think that David De Gea spent the whole of last season without a club, signed for Fiorentina during the summer transfer window and is now performing like the bedrock of of the team's defense is just to captivating. The Spanish goalkeeper at all the time he spent at Manchester United showed that he's a world class goalkeeper however, repeatedly delivering impressive performances at his current age tells more of his strength and personality. I hope he continues with his current form so his team Fiorentina can actually finish in a better position that they finished last season.

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Quote from: ginsan on October 12, 2024, 04:52:37 PM

AC Milan lacks a goal-hungry striker, because they managed to dominate the game when they faced Fiorentina but unfortunately many of the attacks they built were wasted because they could not be completed into goals. 16 shots and 8 of them on target of course that's a pretty good record but in fact they failed to make the opportunities available to become goals.

The defeat from Fiorentina made AC Milan's position in the standings drop to 6th place. I think under Fonseca's direction where AC Milan has not found its best form because they also failed to advance well in the Champions League this season. Of course this season is a tough challenge for Fonseca in building AC Milan but we'll see because this season the journey is still quite long.

Yeah maybe you are right, but I'm not sure if the problem is AC Milan does not have a reliable striker because AC has scored 15 goals in 7 matches or just 1 goal adrift of Inter Milan as the top scorer team with a total of 16 goals from 7 matches, so we can consider the last AC Milan defeat because of the unlucky factor because last month when AC Milan played away against Inter Milan they could win the match.

Next week we have 2 interesting matches from Serie A Juventus vs Lazio and AS Roma vs Inter Milan well Juventus and Lazio have the same points and both teams compete to secure positions in the Top 4 as a home team Juventus have the advantage to get 3 points but we know it's not easy.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 12, 2024, 02:43:47 PM

Quote from: MAAManda on October 12, 2024, 10:27:04 AM

Losing to Fiorentina would be acceptable if they didn't have dominance in the match, but AC Milan actually had dominance that made them look like losers. Look at the statistics, they had the advantage in terms of attack and possession, but they couldn't win against Fiorentina.

Dominating the match doesn't guarantee the win. There are many other factors that can make a team to win or to lose. In the match Fiorentina vs AC Milan, the goalkeeper becomes one of the factor of the win. De Gea performed very impressive, he was truly on fire in the match. He saved 2 penalties, he foiled several shots on target of AC Milan players. This makes AC Milan players to feel frustrated, they have no idea to score more goals. Meanwhile for Fiorentina players, this brings positive impacts on their mentality. They were getting motivated to win the match because they are confident with their defense.

Quote from: MAAManda on October 12, 2024, 10:27:04 AM

I think we can't expect more from AC Milan this season.

If you expect AC Milan to win the Scuddetto, it is unlikely to happen. Although it is still to early to say this, but I'm sure the competition for Serie A title is for Napoli, Juventus, and Inter Milan.

AC Milan lacks a goal-hungry striker, because they managed to dominate the game when they faced Fiorentina but unfortunately many of the attacks they built were wasted because they could not be completed into goals. 16 shots and 8 of them on target of course that's a pretty good record but in fact they failed to make the opportunities available to become goals.

The defeat from Fiorentina made AC Milan's position in the standings drop to 6th place. I think under Fonseca's direction where AC Milan has not found its best form because they also failed to advance well in the Champions League this season. Of course this season is a tough challenge for Fonseca in building AC Milan but we'll see because this season the journey is still quite long.

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Quote from: hahay on October 12, 2024, 02:58:52 PM

The presence of De Gea in Fiorentina does have a big influence on the match, because if Fiorentina does not play De Gea in the match I am sure Fiorentina will lose. Because anyway, based on the head to head results, at least Milan beat Fiorentina quite often but at that moment Milan failed despite dominating the match well. Fiorentina managed to make Milan get a deadlock, despite having two penalty kicks but De Gea managed to handle it very well.

Firstly I'm really happy De Gea is finally settled in a team and for me i see him as an asset to that team, his prowess is one which isn't alien to the European football before he had to leave Manchester United in England because their coach felt he wasn't fitting into his plan as a coach at the point when he became the manger but then for Fiorentina i believe they will be seeing some massive improvement if they get to strengthen their defense as they wouldn't be expecting he does all of the job alone.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 12, 2024, 02:43:47 PM

Quote from: MAAManda on October 12, 2024, 10:27:04 AM

Losing to Fiorentina would be acceptable if they didn't have dominance in the match, but AC Milan actually had dominance that made them look like losers. Look at the statistics, they had the advantage in terms of attack and possession, but they couldn't win against Fiorentina.

Dominating the match doesn't guarantee the win. There are many other factors that can make a team to win or to lose. In the match Fiorentina vs AC Milan, the goalkeeper becomes one of the factor of the win. De Gea performed very impressive, he was truly on fire in the match. He saved 2 penalties, he foiled several shots on target of AC Milan players. This makes AC Milan players to feel frustrated, they have no idea to score more goals. Meanwhile for Fiorentina players, this brings positive impacts on their mentality. They were getting motivated to win the match because they are confident with their defense.

Quote from: MAAManda on October 12, 2024, 10:27:04 AM

I think we can't expect more from AC Milan this season.

If you expect AC Milan to win the Scuddetto, it is unlikely to happen. Although it is still to early to say this, but I'm sure the competition for Serie A title is for Napoli, Juventus, and Inter Milan.

The presence of De Gea in Fiorentina does have a big influence on the match, because if Fiorentina does not play De Gea in the match I am sure Fiorentina will lose. Because anyway, based on the head to head results, at least Milan beat Fiorentina quite often but at that moment Milan failed despite dominating the match well. Fiorentina managed to make Milan get a deadlock, despite having two penalty kicks but De Gea managed to handle it very well.

At the very least, the match also reminded me of Real Madrid who lost against Lille and Bayern Munich who also lost against Aston Villa in a Champions League match. Due to the fact that Real Madrid and Bayern Munich also had very high dominance in the match, but the result was that they lost.Thus,it is not surprising that even though Milan dominated the match against Fiorentina, it is not a guarantee to win either.

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Quote from: MAAManda on October 12, 2024, 10:27:04 AM

Losing to Fiorentina would be acceptable if they didn't have dominance in the match, but AC Milan actually had dominance that made them look like losers. Look at the statistics, they had the advantage in terms of attack and possession, but they couldn't win against Fiorentina.

Dominating the match doesn't guarantee the win. There are many other factors that can make a team to win or to lose. In the match Fiorentina vs AC Milan, the goalkeeper becomes one of the factor of the win. De Gea performed very impressive, he was truly on fire in the match. He saved 2 penalties, he foiled several shots on target of AC Milan players. This makes AC Milan players to feel frustrated, they have no idea to score more goals. Meanwhile for Fiorentina players, this brings positive impacts on their mentality. They were getting motivated to win the match because they are confident with their defense.

Quote from: MAAManda on October 12, 2024, 10:27:04 AM

I think we can't expect more from AC Milan this season.

If you expect AC Milan to win the Scuddetto, it is unlikely to happen. Although it is still to early to say this, but I'm sure the competition for Serie A title is for Napoli, Juventus, and Inter Milan.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 11, 2024, 06:32:26 PM

Maybe Pogba has been a great player, but he has not played for quite a long time. and this was also expressed by Motta regarding himself before Juventus decided on the contract termination news. Motta's focus is on the present and he is concentrating on what he has and is still building at the moment.

Source: Thiago Motta on Paul Pogba’s return

What i have notice with this Thiago Motta is he is looking for a players that he can handle and not players that he will get the media coming after him if he doesn’t play them. Even before the ban Pogba was battling or struggling with fitness issue something I notice that Thiago Motta doesn’t like and the reason why players like Chiesa were sold off. I think they will agree on the termination and both parties will find their way which is good business to me. Pogba himself needs a club where he will get the maximum playing time and away from the media and the best place is his hometown. He still has the potential to show us his quality again for like 5 more seasons.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on October 12, 2024, 04:34:20 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 12, 2024, 04:23:54 AM

In fact, we are not saying Roma is a bad team or that they can't have a good performance in this match, but all we say is about Inter Milan's performance. They were having an awesome performance recently in both the Champions League and Serie A, which is a good reason to say Inter Milan's chance for this match is much higher than that of a team like Roma.
Maybe if Roma had De Rossi working in this team, they could have a chance to get better results, but currently, I think they are going to lose it to Inter Milan.

Roma sacked Mourinho and hoped that they will get better results with De Rossi. The last season ended with no better results, no ticket to Champions League, no Europa League final match and nothing to say De Rossi did better management than Mourinho. After only some matches in this season, they sacked De Rossi and hire Juric, another coach who has never worked for any big club in his career. Results so far are not better than De Rossi had before the sack and maybe they hope that they did not fire De Rossi in this season, did not fire Jose Mourinho in the past season.

We can definitely say De Rossi finished worse than Mourinho, there is no doubt about this and this is why he was fired as well. However, just because De Rossi turned out to be even worse than Mourinho, doesn't mean Mourinho was good enough and should have kept his job, we can assume both of them were not good enough to keep their jobs as well, which is quite true in this case.

I believe the best thing to do for them is get some new manager which will do better than both of them, and this is going to be hard because their squad isn't all that perfect, so even if they get a great manager, they are going to face a lot of troubles. I believe the best method would be hiring a coach who likes to play for the long term and with younger players, so they can rebuild the team and sell any player who worths a damn, and get some younger players and basically start from scratch. Otherwise we are talking about a team which has no power to compete for any place higher.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on October 12, 2024, 04:34:20 AM

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In fact, we are not saying Roma is a bad team or that they can't have a good performance in this match, but all we say is about Inter Milan's performance. They were having an awesome performance recently in both the Champions League and Serie A, which is a good reason to say Inter Milan's chance for this match is much higher than that of a team like Roma.
Maybe if Roma had De Rossi working in this team, they could have a chance to get better results, but currently, I think they are going to lose it to Inter Milan.

Roma sacked Mourinho and hoped that they will get better results with De Rossi. The last season ended with no better results, no ticket to Champions League, no Europa League final match and nothing to say De Rossi did better management than Mourinho. After only some matches in this season, they sacked De Rossi and hire Juric, another coach who has never worked for any big club in his career. Results so far are not better than De Rossi had before the sack and maybe they hope that they did not fire De Rossi in this season, did not fire Jose Mourinho in the past season.

I think the Roma management are on a quest to reform the team and establish a new Roma where a winning mentality would be the standard of the club, that could be the reason behind consistent hiring and rehiring of coaches whenever they sense that things are not going according to plan. Jose mourinho came in with high hopes of trying to elevate the club but didn't achieve much before he was shown the way out and then De Rossi came also to do some remedial job but ended up being sacked as well, yet as awkward as it may look it is quite understandable that the management has Zero tolerance for failure and mediocrity and want to take the club to higher level than it is now unlike the management of Manchester united whom will always see reasons to retain a non performing coach at all cost.

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Quote from: Altryist on October 12, 2024, 04:43:58 AM

I don't know, Roma didn't play better with De Rossi, in this match the players will matter and in my opinion Inter is superior to Roma in this indicator. Inzaghi had a lot of time to create a team and Roma only tries to change something, every coach tries to implement his own strategy, this is in addition to the fact that Roma has positions that require strengthening, so I think that Inter is the favorite in this match.

Inter Milan have been very consistent so far, although they has suffered one defeat so far and are in second place in the Serie A standings, but I think their form and consistency are still very big and deserve to be favourites as one of the scudetto contenders this season, next week Intermilan will face a tough game against Roma but I think that the match will not be more difficult when they hold Manchester to a draw City in the UCL Grin

, Roma performance is still in the transition phase with Ivan Jurig as their new coach, so we can't expect too much for Roma to beat Intermilan in the match.

Quote from: Hanadawa on October 12, 2024, 12:05:41 PM

I agree with you. I think we can't underestimate AS Roma because they are also one of the top teams in Serie A. Although the league champions are dominated by Inter, AC Milan and Juventus but Roma can always give the toughest match for other top teams in Serie A. But for now I see Inter Milan is very consistent with their performance. On the other hand Roma still has many problems and they haven't found chemistry with their new coach. I think this season is a transition and adaptation season so they are still not on par with Inter Milan at the moment.

In my opinion, if we refer to Roma as a big team in the past, it is clear that it is not enough to rival the popularity and trophy achievements that Intermilan has had so far, but I don't think that is what we consider in assessing the match later because the factors of consistency, mentality, squad depth and also the current team performance are the basis for our consideration to see Intermilan more worthy of being favored in the match.

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Quote from: Altryist on October 12, 2024, 04:43:58 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 12, 2024, 04:23:54 AM

In fact, we are not saying Roma is a bad team or that they can't have a good performance in this match, but all we say is about Inter Milan's performance. They were having an awesome performance recently in both the Champions League and Serie A, which is a good reason to say Inter Milan's chance for this match is much higher than that of a team like Roma.
Maybe if Roma had De Rossi working in this team, they could have a chance to get better results, but currently, I think they are going to lose it to Inter Milan.

I don't know, Roma didn't play better with De Rossi, in this match the players will matter and in my opinion Inter is superior to Roma in this indicator. Inzaghi had a lot of time to create a team and Roma only tries to change something, every coach tries to implement his own strategy, this is in addition to the fact that Roma has positions that require strengthening, so I think that Inter is the favorite in this match.

Not like they replaced him with some better manager so far neither, Roma just got an interim coach for the time being and I do not see how this would make a big turn, there isn't anything going around which could be considered a big deal just yet. I feel as if this should definitely be something we accept for Roma to be in, they are not good and definitely haven't done the things they need to recover and be good neither.

On the other hand, Inter has been good and will continue to be good because there isn't any proof about them being not good so far, they won the league and doing alright for time being as well. This is why everyone assumes Inter will have the win.

Roma needs to find a coach which will make them better in order to continue, without a coach like this they will not have a good result all that easily, and because of this we are talking about a worse situation at hand as well. We need to focus on what to do and how to get better results with a famous coach.

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Quote from: Altryist on October 12, 2024, 04:43:58 AM

I don't know, Roma didn't play better with De Rossi, in this match the players will matter and in my opinion Inter is superior to Roma in this indicator. Inzaghi had a lot of time to create a team and Roma only tries to change something, every coach tries to implement his own strategy, this is in addition to the fact that Roma has positions that require strengthening, so I think that Inter is the favorite in this match.

I agree with you. I think we can't underestimate AS Roma because they are also one of the top teams in Serie A. Although the league champions are dominated by Inter, AC Milan and Juventus but Roma can always give the toughest match for other top teams in Serie A. But for now I see Inter Milan is very consistent with their performance. On the other hand Roma still has many problems and they haven't found chemistry with their new coach. I think this season is a transition and adaptation season so they are still not on par with Inter Milan at the moment.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 12, 2024, 06:11:36 AM

It is really not satisfying to see Milan in this condition. I mean I know they have been trying to fix things recently but they started the national break with a bad result against Fiorentina. Sad

Losing to Fiorentina would be acceptable if they didn't have dominance in the match, but AC Milan actually had dominance that made them look like losers. Look at the statistics, they had the advantage in terms of attack and possession, but they couldn't win against Fiorentina. I think we can't expect more from AC Milan this season.

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It is very difficult for Fonseca when his relationship with the players and even between players is not harmonious, Fonseca as a coach seems not appreciated by the players, it is very disappointing for a team that is trying to rise and I think if Fonseca does not succeed in making changes to the discipline of the players then he will never be able to make AC Milan's performance better.

So far AC Milan's performance is still not good enough because of the seven matches played by AC Milan this season, the team has only won three of the seven matches they have played. I think the players should also be aware of that because making problems with a coach will not produce anything good and the team can be destroyed because of it. However, Fonseca is a coach at AC Milan at this time and he needs to be appreciated well as long as he is able to provide good tactics for the players and the team as a whole.

Actually, the players who were brought in were in accordance with the scheme desired by Fonseca, but it all seemed not enough, the defeat to Fiorentina was just a matter of luck and in terms of the game they were equally strong and it was just that David de Gea's performance was in good form, that's why several brilliant saves by De Gea, AC Milan only need time to perfect their game and wait for several players who will be brought back in the upcoming transfer market to make it easier for Fonseca to organize the attack if he has players who are really needed by AC Milan.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 12, 2024, 08:49:32 AM

It is very difficult for Fonseca when his relationship with the players and even between players is not harmonious, Fonseca as a coach seems not appreciated by the players, it is very disappointing for a team that is trying to rise and I think if Fonseca does not succeed in making changes to the discipline of the players then he will never be able to make AC Milan's performance better.

So far AC Milan's performance is still not good enough because of the seven matches played by AC Milan this season, the team has only won three of the seven matches they have played. I think the players should also be aware of that because making problems with a coach will not produce anything good and the team can be destroyed because of it. However, Fonseca is a coach at AC Milan at this time and he needs to be appreciated well as long as he is able to provide good tactics for the players and the team as a whole.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 12, 2024, 04:23:54 AM

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Quote from: mamesso on October 10, 2024, 07:59:24 AM

Everything you say is based on what is seen on paper. I admit, Inter is superior in terms of statistics, H2H and team, but the match results can be different from what is predicted outside the field. Roma are in transition with a new coach, they have also not been consistent in maintaining their performance. In this match, Roma will act as the host, they will try to play with full enthusiasm in front of their supporters, at least a draw is enough for them to maintain the mentality of the players in the next match.

This match in my opinion is quite difficult to predict, however Roma is not completely bad, especially they play in front of their supporters, of course they want to play with enthusiasm and try not to disappoint but their opponents are quite tough, a draw is already a good result for Roma and also a fair result for both teams who do not want to lose points, but I probably would not choose one of them to bet on who will win since it's too risky, I'll probably bet on the BTTS option I think both teams will be equally dominant in attack and will both create chances.

In fact, we are not saying Roma is a bad team or that they can't have a good performance in this match, but all we say is about Inter Milan's performance. They were having an awesome performance recently in both the Champions League and Serie A, which is a good reason to say Inter Milan's chance for this match is much higher than that of a team like Roma.
Maybe if Roma had De Rossi working in this team, they could have a chance to get better results, but currently, I think they are going to lose it to Inter Milan.

Sacking De Rossi was what Roma thinks is best for them, I don't think that assuming it was still De Rossi that is the coach, it will change the outcome of the match because De Rossi was unable to win any match since this season started which was a concrete reason for his sack. You are forgot the fact that Inter is not a weak team and they have good coach who understand the players strengths and wok on them with that. He is also an experience coach, therefore winning Inter will not be easy for strong clubs. Roma is having a lot of loopholes and that put them in a poor position to win Roma in their upcoming match.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 12, 2024, 08:49:32 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 12, 2024, 06:11:36 AM

It is really not satisfying to see Milan in this condition. I mean I know they have been trying to fix things recently but they started the national break with a bad result against Fiorentina. Sad

As far as I can see, there are some inner problems there too. For example, in the Fiorentina game Fonseca tried to explain his players that the main penalty taker of the team was Pulisic. But Theo and Abraham took those penalties and missed both...

Fonseca really needs to work on this topic. He should teach his players to respect and obey his choices. Otherwise this team can't be successful much this season. It's no joke.

It is very difficult for Fonseca when his relationship with the players and even between players is not harmonious, Fonseca as a coach seems not appreciated by the players, it is very disappointing for a team that is trying to rise and I think if Fonseca does not succeed in making changes to the discipline of the players then he will never be able to make AC Milan's performance better.

All the changes that have occurred in the AC Milan team this season have indeed made them very difficult and I think that is normal for a team with a new coach, everything takes process and time.

There is still time for AC Milan to fix everything, it's only the beginning of the season so it's not too late for them to make a change that will make them better. Now no one can be blamed for what AC Milan is experiencing, I think they have to evaluate themselves. Because this is for the benefit of the team not for the benefit of individuals, it should also be remembered that they receive salaries from this club.
Responsibility must be above all, be it coaches, players or people related to this club. Now the question is whether they want to change everything or they or will it continue like this. To create a solid team, everyone must work hard.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 12, 2024, 06:11:36 AM

It is really not satisfying to see Milan in this condition. I mean I know they have been trying to fix things recently but they started the national break with a bad result against Fiorentina. Sad

As far as I can see, there are some inner problems there too. For example, in the Fiorentina game Fonseca tried to explain his players that the main penalty taker of the team was Pulisic. But Theo and Abraham took those penalties and missed both...

Fonseca really needs to work on this topic. He should teach his players to respect and obey his choices. Otherwise this team can't be successful much this season. It's no joke.

It is very difficult for Fonseca when his relationship with the players and even between players is not harmonious, Fonseca as a coach seems not appreciated by the players, it is very disappointing for a team that is trying to rise and I think if Fonseca does not succeed in making changes to the discipline of the players then he will never be able to make AC Milan's performance better.

All the changes that have occurred in the AC Milan team this season have indeed made them very difficult and I think that is normal for a team with a new coach, everything takes process and time.

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