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Quote from: irhact on October 11, 2024, 10:36:13 AM

Quote from: Jatiluhung on October 11, 2024, 07:51:15 AM

The current balance of the Juventus squad is not very good. They always have difficulty completing the attacks they build themselves. And this makes this team less productive in scoring goals. So it is very natural that currently we see Juventus getting more draws. But I believe this team will improve as the season progresses. Because I think Juventus has a coach who is quite trustworthy. Thiago Motta may just be a young coach. but last season he managed to turn Bologna into a strong team. And I think he will also be able to restore Juventus' best performance, which is one of the teams that is considered one of the strongest in Serie A.

Juventus haven't started the season as they would have loved to, but they have a chance to close the gap between them and Inter Milan as inter Milan don't have much points more than them but Napoli is leading with 3 points. The arrival of Conte at Napoli has made them become title contenders again and I'm not surprised as Conte is a very good manager. Juventus just need to focus on the next game against Lazio that are 4th on the table just behind them and looking to pass them after the international breaks. Juventus now have alot of competitors than they use to when they were still the dominant team in the league but right now there are others coming up.

It seems that Juventus' journey to win the title is more difficult this season last season Juventus only had 2 competitors, namely Inter Milan and AC Milan but this season Napoli is back competing in the hunt for the title, AC Milan is still not visible but it seems they will soon follow this is certainly not easy for Juventus while currently Juventus has experienced many draws which makes the distance between him and Napoli even further if not fixed immediately. The arrival of Antonio Conte has indeed changed everything he is a successful coach in the Italian League. Juventus and Inter Milan used to be his club and he can give the title but now they will be the enemy for Antonio Conte to bring success to the club he is currently coaching.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 10, 2024, 09:55:23 PM

But, I'm very concerned about our striker's embarrassing performance. They poorly executed the ball and often dived. It was shameful to watch. I think our striker, Dusan, is finished.

It's always painful to watch our strikers miss a lot of chances in any games.

Every attacker have time and season and we've surpassed most of these players on the pitch. Dusan Vlahovic was a top striker in his prime but we didn't expect him to turn out to become a flopping player that's not consistent in his epic performance. Today he's the main striker in the game and tomorrow he's probably rated low due to his inability to convert chances to goals. He did missed out on the golden goal scoring chances but it doesn't mean he's not present for proactive attacking roles, these things just happen and it's definitely not their fault. Let me ask you a simple question, if Leo Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo do missed out on golden goal scoring opportunities, then while blame Dusan Vlahovic for his own misses? I've watch and experience more big chances wasted by an attacker, first to come on the list is Darwin Nunez, Karim Benzema, Nicolas Jackson, these are players that have banged good numbers of goals for their club but in frequent scenarios, they're completely out of the context.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 11, 2024, 10:29:45 PM

Sometimes players may not have their day and that is reflected in their playing, but you have to consider that one thing compensates for the other, because how many mistakes can be made up for up front? Many, the most that can happen is that they miss goals, or the worst is that they get sent off. It should also be noted that defense is very necessary because basically Italian football is always based on the best defense in the world, and that is what is sought, by having solidity in defense sometimes you can attack and score goals, that is what is seen in these things, I am one of those who think that when a team has good results they should be praised, and improve on the points that should be done.

Italian football has its greatest art of defense and success of their clubs in Europe and their national team are mainly based on their strong defense. It's their strongest strength but in the past, they had many great attacking players who helped them winning titles.

Recent years, Italy lack of good players in both defense and attacking areas and quality of Serie A and national team fall a lot. Italian clubs must focus and invest more into their academies to get new generations of youth players, who will be foundations for their success in future. They are no longer rich in finance compares to clubs in Spain and England so having good youth academies is only way to succeed and competitive to clubs in La Liga and Premier League.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 10, 2024, 09:55:23 PM

But, I'm very concerned about our striker's embarrassing performance. They poorly executed the ball and often dived. It was shameful to watch. I think our striker, Dusan, is finished.

It's always painful to watch our strikers miss a lot of chances in any games.

Sometimes players may not have their day and that is reflected in their playing, but you have to consider that one thing compensates for the other, because how many mistakes can be made up for up front? Many, the most that can happen is that they miss goals, or the worst is that they get sent off. It should also be noted that defense is very necessary because basically Italian football is always based on the best defense in the world, and that is what is sought, by having solidity in defense sometimes you can attack and score goals, that is what is seen in these things, I am one of those who think that when a team has good results they should be praised, and improve on the points that should be done.

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Most people are quite busy talking about Pogba and Juventus, now there is surprising rumor about Balotelli who wants to return to Serie-A, he is reported to be close to Alberto Gilardino, the coach of Genoa who most likely really has an interest in Balotelli to be able to enter his squad.
Previously there were several team from various Leagues offering contracts to Balotelli including Saudi and he seemed to reject them, from several reports that I read Balotelli has desire to be able to return to the Italian League and there are two team that seem to have the desire to be able to accept him, the first is Genoa and the second is Torino.
There has been no official statement regarding this news about whether Balotelli has reached personal agreement with one of the Serie-A team but what is clear is that it will be very possible for us to see him play here again.
I haven't seen Balotelli play for quite while because previously he played with Adana Demirspor in the Turkish League and there Adana Demirspor is not strong team, Balotelli return to Serie-A might enliven Italian football to be able to compete fiercely again considering he is great striker.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 11, 2024, 06:32:26 PM

Quote from: EL MOHA on October 11, 2024, 04:59:34 PM

Pogba is a talented player that still has the ability to continue playing in Europe and as such I don’t see him going to any continent just now. Rumours has he is returning back to his country with Olympico Mersile interested in him and seriously that’s a good combination with De Zerbi been there coach so at the end everyone wins

Maybe Pogba has been a great player, but he has not played for quite a long time. and this was also expressed by Motta regarding himself before Juventus decided on the contract termination news. Motta's focus is on the present and he is concentrating on what he has and is still building at the moment.

Source: Thiago Motta on Paul Pogba’s return

but indeed the talks between Juventus and Pogba have been very clear regarding the contract termination which will likely be carried out soon. and Pogba will become a free agent.

Source: Juventus CEO Scanavino - Paul Pogba

In my opinion, this is the right choice for the club to terminate the contract with the French-born player, because it is true that he will definitely start from the beginning because he rarely plays, especially under Motta's guidance, Motta certainly wants to focus on the existing players, because currently Motta is coaching and he has the choice of who can come in and out, because Pogba's arrival could complicate the situation and that is a series of events that happened to him, it is indeed not easy for Pogba with the events that happened to him and in my opinion other clubs who want to bring in star players at this time must think first because of the consequences that occur, Juventus is currently in good condition in their midfield, especially the arrival of Koopmeiners is very rapid in the midfield and in my opinion Motta is currently more focused on talented young players rather than big players, Pogba himself also has to train again because his abilities must have decreased and that takes more time, in my opinion terminating Pogba's contract is the best solution between the two.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 11, 2024, 06:32:26 PM

Quote from: EL MOHA on October 11, 2024, 04:59:34 PM

Pogba is a talented player that still has the ability to continue playing in Europe and as such I don’t see him going to any continent just now. Rumours has he is returning back to his country with Olympico Mersile interested in him and seriously that’s a good combination with De Zerbi been there coach so at the end everyone wins

Maybe Pogba has been a great player, but he has not played for quite a long time. and this was also expressed by Motta regarding himself before Juventus decided on the contract termination news. Motta's focus is on the present and he is concentrating on what he has and is still building at the moment.

but indeed the talks between Juventus and Pogba have been very clear regarding the contract termination which will likely be carried out soon. and Poga will become a free agent.

I can confirm that Juventus are in talks with Paul Pogba and his representatives. The decision is clear, they just need to finalize the terms. Pogba will leave Juventus and become a free agent.
According to many sources, Marseille wants Pogba before he returns from a doping ban. With no chance at Juventus, Pogba can find his passion and motivation to play again at Marseille, especially when he has the opportunity to play with his old teammates and receive support from the players and the club's board. This could be an important turning point in the midfielder's career. If Pogba is added to the squad, Marseille will certainly be able to compete on equal terms with PSG shortly.

This is the information I have read.
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/13973953/paul-pogba-transfer-man-utd-ban-appeal/

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Quote from: EL MOHA on October 11, 2024, 04:59:34 PM

Pogba is a talented player that still has the ability to continue playing in Europe and as such I don’t see him going to any continent just now. Rumours has he is returning back to his country with Olympico Mersile interested in him and seriously that’s a good combination with De Zerbi been there coach so at the end everyone wins

Maybe Pogba has been a great player, but he has not played for quite a long time. and this was also expressed by Motta regarding himself before Juventus decided on the contract termination news. Motta's focus is on the present and he is concentrating on what he has and is still building at the moment.

Source: Thiago Motta on Paul Pogba’s return

but indeed the talks between Juventus and Pogba have been very clear regarding the contract termination which will likely be carried out soon. and Pogba will become a free agent.

Source: Juventus CEO Scanavino - Paul Pogba

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 10, 2024, 09:55:23 PM

A classic problem of Juventus. They're strong in defense, but very damn poor in attack. And I'm still pissed we could not win the game against Cagliari. And i think our manager, Motta's rotation in the midfield was hurting the team a lot in our frontline. Our defense has been fairly stable with this tactic. We played 4 backs, and it makes our defense very solid.

But, I'm very concerned about our striker's embarrassing performance. They poorly executed the ball and often dived. It was shameful to watch. I think our striker, Dusan, is finished.

It's always painful to watch our strikers miss a lot of chances in any games.

That's not true, i dont agree. It's not a classic Juventus problem, i want like to remind you when we had Del Piero and Zidane if it was the same thing
For some years past Juventus has not invested in talents, but has invested in players that it can resell to make money, example? Cristiano Ronaldo
And as a fan, saying this makes my heart cry but it's the pure truth

Juventus once dominated Serie A with no club able to match the quality of its squad, after the changing of generations, its toughness began to diminish and it struggles to win the Scudetto. They once dominated Serie A for 9 seasons, from 2011/12 to 2019/20. But after changing their identity from a team that invested in long-term talent to one that prioritized money, they began to struggle to compete with their rivals. The draw from Cagliari was very disappointing for their fans, they should have won the match if they had been able to play disciplined until the end of the match.

Essentially, it can be mentioned that Juventus must redefine its policy from the view of a transfer for a more sustainable one. The club has to use data science to assess potential and attitude of the youth players to tailor them to fit the playing style of the team. Through analysing the recruitment process, Juventus can obtain the highest value players who would be capable of improving in the long run instead of purchasing high profile talents. Besides, one should not neglect internal player acquisition through the academy, because it gives more reliable under pinning and a succession of consistency in the quality of the team.

On the tactical level it is also necessary to focus on the emergence of the modern type of play, which is more mobile at Juve. The set up of defense and changes in the movement in a game has to be stronger especially when the opponents employ a safe play or high energy. Formation changes during the match and correct places of players’ substitution during the game, will prevent the team from getting tire and keep the concentration all season long. FC Juventus also observed low tendency in ball possession and more over finishing touches since several match ended in less than a best result due to negligence at important stages.

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Quote from: ginsan on October 11, 2024, 04:39:00 PM

Juventus and Pogba are rumored to be ending their partnership on good terms in the near future. So Pogba will play again with another team at some point in the future and not with Juventus anymore. Indeed, that is a good decision in my opinion because Juventus opens up opportunities for Pogba to find a new team for his next career. If you look at his age, Pogba is not old enough because he 31 years old and is still strong enough to play for another 5 years.

I think he will leave Serie A to join another team, be it the Saudi Arabian League or the MLS and all of that will be revealed after the completion of his contract with Juventus which is said to be processed as soon as possible in the near future.
His career has faded so much after he was hit by several cases that befell him. I hope he can find his best form with his new team and for Juventus they already have many midfielders and don't need Pogba's support and that's what the Juventus coach said.

Even though it is sad that he will be leaving the oldies I think the move by the club to actually get the deal sorted out before his return to football. If you analyze the whole situation surrounding the juventus team you will see that the head coach Thiago Motta is actually building a new team and he is at the helms of actually kicking out all the players he doesn’t wants regardless of their ability to play, take for example the Chiesa situation where he was allowed to go with many more. I don’t blame the Coach he just needs to build his team any way it suits him, because at the end of the day he is the one to get sacked when things don’t go his way. So seeing this Pogba news wasn’t surprising.

Pogba is a talented player that still has the ability to continue playing in Europe and as such I don’t see him going to any continent just now. Rumours has he is returning back to his country with Olympico Mersile interested in him and seriously that’s a good combination with De Zerbi been there coach so at the end everyone wins

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Quote from: giorgione on October 11, 2024, 08:30:10 AM

I don't know what news you have read but I think they are totally wrong, Pogba will not return to Juventus as a player who has given so much but the management has already decided that they will no longer let him play and it can be seen from the relationships they are establishing with him, this is clear , there is also talk of renewing dusan but this is also a mystery

Juventus and Pogba are rumored to be ending their partnership on good terms in the near future. So Pogba will play again with another team at some point in the future and not with Juventus anymore. Indeed, that is a good decision in my opinion because Juventus opens up opportunities for Pogba to find a new team for his next career. If you look at his age, Pogba is not old enough because he 31 years old and is still strong enough to play for another 5 years.

I think he will leave Serie A to join another team, be it the Saudi Arabian League or the MLS and all of that will be revealed after the completion of his contract with Juventus which is said to be processed as soon as possible in the near future.
His career has faded so much after he was hit by several cases that befell him. I hope he can find his best form with his new team and for Juventus they already have many midfielders and don't need Pogba's support and that's what the Juventus coach said.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on October 11, 2024, 02:17:53 PM

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Some rumors say Pogba will return to France and join Marseille, Juventus seems to be going to terminate the contract with Pogba, although the contract is still valid until June 2026. Pogba can open talks with various clubs, and can join any club in January, but can only be active in March. This is in accordance with the results of the latest CAS decision, which accepted Pogba appeal, and decided his sentence to 18 months.

Pogba was actually also linked with Inter Miami, but the former Man United player seems to be inclined to choose Marseille, maybe Pogba is still very interested in staying in European competition and wants to strengthen the French National Team in the upcoming World Cup. If we talk about money, then the reasonable choice is the Saudi Pro League, Pogba can get a high salary that is much bigger than what he gets at Juventus or Marseille. Many people previously assumed that Pogba career was over, but now Pogba seems to be getting a second chance, and this opportunity should be able to repair his previously tarnished image.

I don't think he is able to make a full recovery from everything. Besides the fact that his reputation has been ruined, being out for so long and then having suffered from all these injuries, no top club would be willing to sign a contract with him. Since he is French I think you are right that going back to France is a possibility, but the best part of his career is behind him. He was a great talent, but he was dealing with too many things outside of football.

The last season when he was more or less able to play at the highest level and play most of the games was in season 20/21. Afterwards he played only 20 Premier League games due to a red card and then immediately suffered from a bad injury, which cost him 10 games and then same season a calve injury. It went on like that the season after where he played only a handful of games or so.

I doubt there is a coming back. Intet Miami yes, it is less stressful, but the best Champions League times are over for him.

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Quote from: Die_empty on October 10, 2024, 01:41:53 PM

A broken rib will take a long time to heal which will be a big blow to the Old Lady. However, it has been confirmed that Teun Koopmeiner's injury is a slight dislocation in his right anterior rib. Further medical examination is still ongoing but, certainly, he wouldn't be playing Lazio. Depending on the gravity of the injury he might not be available for Stuttgart and Inter Milan games. He was replaced by Nicolò Fagioli after his substitute in the games with Cagliari, and Nicolo didn't disappoint this shows that Teun has a competent replacement.

According to rumors the intention is to recover him for the game against Inter.
I guess his injury is not sever if they can recover him in 3 weeks.

The bright side that David Luis will have his chance now for the 1st time since he arriveed in Juventus

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Quote from: Lidger on October 11, 2024, 12:29:15 PM

Quote from: giorgione on October 11, 2024, 08:30:10 AM

I don't know what news you have read but I think they are totally wrong, Pogba will not return to Juventus as a player who has given so much but the management has already decided that they will no longer let him play and it can be seen from the relationships they are establishing with him, this is clear , there is also talk of renewing dusan but this is also a mystery

As far as I know about Paul Pogba, this player will not be appointed to a new club, his current club Juventus, that is, based on various actions in the media, Paul Pogba is going to cut ties with Juventus very soon. Some unethical acts were committed by him which are completely forbidden in football and his guilt was proved and he was ordered out of football for a long time. However, those who punished him so much have reduced his punishment again, meaning that he will soon be able to return to football. If Juventus ends the contract with this player, then there is no specific information about the player's contract with a new club.

Some rumors say Pogba will return to France and join Marseille, Juventus seems to be going to terminate the contract with Pogba, although the contract is still valid until June 2026. Pogba can open talks with various clubs, and can join any club in January, but can only be active in March. This is in accordance with the results of the latest CAS decision, which accepted Pogba appeal, and decided his sentence to 18 months.

Pogba was actually also linked with Inter Miami, but the former Man United player seems to be inclined to choose Marseille, maybe Pogba is still very interested in staying in European competition and wants to strengthen the French National Team in the upcoming World Cup. If we talk about money, then the reasonable choice is the Saudi Pro League, Pogba can get a high salary that is much bigger than what he gets at Juventus or Marseille. Many people previously assumed that Pogba career was over, but now Pogba seems to be getting a second chance, and this opportunity should be able to repair his previously tarnished image.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 11, 2024, 01:28:33 PM

There is no doubt about it, at that time Napoli was unbeatable, everything looked very well integrated, the players seemed to be from another world, of course I like to give a lot of credit to OPsimhen because wow the plays they made were very good, sometimes he would go out into the street and say: I am Osimhen, I am MESSI, I am Cristiano, so things with him were very good for Napoli, personally I really like Lukaku's playing style, except that he gets used to it very quickly, but he is a rough, shock player, that's good because he draws marks.

Seria A was challenging and epic after all. The Nigeria international surpassed these hurdles and came very top among his competitive oppositions, he's the best striker in Seria A until he left after a shocking broken down relationship with the club. Every player have tried their best to zealed up their epic performance, these players have been contributing and knows exactly how to present themselves on pitch. Victor Osimhen is a top striker that pushed exit doors from Napoli. He has quite enough abilities to served him for longterm, he's not relenting player, always up and running for the big games. He's currently Galatasaray player, expects more from him in his new club.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 11, 2024, 06:23:46 AM

I remember years ago when Paul Pogba was much younger he was one of the most talented players in the world and there were many teams that wanted to hire this player because of his good performance he had and because of his age. But now Paul Pogba is a 31-year-old player and getting older while he has not played in any team for years and this can make Paul Pogba have a bad performance once he comes back to play.
On the other hand, Juventus is going to stop working with Paul Pogba and Maurizio Scanavino said they are ready to set Pogba free.
Currently, this player is linked to Marseille.

I didn't think Pogba's penalty would be reduced. It wasn't really expected that they made such a decision. While I thought Pogba's career was over, now he will return to the field. I think he will be happy in France.
Maybe he will come to Turkey in 1-2 years. The world's former star footballers who are close to 35 years old like to play in Turkey, maybe we can watch him as a champion in Turkey Cheesy

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on October 10, 2024, 01:43:44 PM

If you remember the moment at that time, namely when Napoli was coached by Spalletti with their mainstay striker at that time Osimhen. It was very clear that Napoli at that time even had a strong level of harmonization between fellow players on the field. I agree that at that time all the players understood each other well on the field and everything became easier for everyone. Osimhen shone brightly at that time. but after Spalletti left we saw drastic changes at the club. And the bad results continue to be obtained. And now when Conte arrives at Napoli we see a glimmer of hope for Napoli. And now the results are starting to show. Namely, Napoli is ranked first in the standings quite well. Unfortunately, currently the shining star there is no longer Osimhen. But Lukaku seems to be the player most relied on by Napoli's new coach, Conte. And Lukaku does have long experience in Serie A. So his quality cannot be doubted.

There is no doubt about it, at that time Napoli was unbeatable, everything looked very well integrated, the players seemed to be from another world, of course I like to give a lot of credit to OPsimhen because wow the plays they made were very good, sometimes he would go out into the street and say: I am Osimhen, I am MESSI, I am Cristiano, so things with him were very good for Napoli, personally I really like Lukaku's playing style, except that he gets used to it very quickly, but he is a rough, shock player, that's good because he draws marks.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 11, 2024, 08:37:06 AM

Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 10, 2024, 09:55:23 PM

A classic problem of Juventus. They're strong in defense, but very damn poor in attack. And I'm still pissed we could not win the game against Cagliari. And i think our manager, Motta's rotation in the midfield was hurting the team a lot in our frontline. Our defense has been fairly stable with this tactic. We played 4 backs, and it makes our defense very solid.

But, I'm very concerned about our striker's embarrassing performance. They poorly executed the ball and often dived. It was shameful to watch. I think our striker, Dusan, is finished.

It's always painful to watch our strikers miss a lot of chances in any games.

That's not true, i dont agree. It's not a classic Juventus problem, i want like to remind you when we had Del Piero and Zidane if it was the same thing
For some years past Juventus has not invested in talents, but has invested in players that it can resell to make money, example? Cristiano Ronaldo
And as a fan, saying this makes my heart cry but it's the pure truth

Del Piero and Buffon are two players who have great loyalty and love for Juventus, so they stayed even though at that time Juventus played in Serie B because of the calciopoli penalty. Thus, I also disagree if you say Juventus only invests in players who can be sold I think that's not true. About Ronaldo, Ronaldo basically has an expensive salary and thus, I think it is natural for Juventus to let Ronaldo go because after all, Real Madrid also sold him until Ronaldo played in the Saudi Pro League which is still willing to give big money.

In this case, I think there is no problem about Juventus players and I think it is still fine, because they are also doing the process to have better results of course. Although indeed, I am also quite disappointed with Juventus' results so far, because my hopes are quite big on Juventus so I always choose Juventus every time they play and I bet. But at least, the position of Juventus is also still not entirely bad to be in third place but indeed, Juventus should have a higher aggressiveness to make goals and not just survive to get a draw, it's bad for a top team like Juventus.

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Quote from: giorgione on October 11, 2024, 08:30:10 AM

I don't know what news you have read but I think they are totally wrong, Pogba will not return to Juventus as a player who has given so much but the management has already decided that they will no longer let him play and it can be seen from the relationships they are establishing with him, this is clear , there is also talk of renewing dusan but this is also a mystery

As far as I know about Paul Pogba, this player will not be appointed to a new club, his current club Juventus, that is, based on various actions in the media, Paul Pogba is going to cut ties with Juventus very soon. Some unethical acts were committed by him which are completely forbidden in football and his guilt was proved and he was ordered out of football for a long time. However, those who punished him so much have reduced his punishment again, meaning that he will soon be able to return to football. If Juventus ends the contract with this player, then there is no specific information about the player's contract with a new club.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 11, 2024, 08:37:06 AM

That's not true, i dont agree. It's not a classic Juventus problem, i want like to remind you when we had Del Piero and Zidane if it was the same thing
For some years past Juventus has not invested in talents, but has invested in players that it can resell to make money, example? Cristiano Ronaldo
And as a fan, saying this makes my heart cry but it's the pure truth

Those times were like the golden age for Juventus yeah.

It is still not impossible to bring back those days for them actually. But it is all up to changing their transfer policies. When it comes to the Ronaldo example... I mean he had a really great time period there. He was scoring like it was nothing and he completed one of his seasons as top scorer of the league too.

But later on when he left the team, he was going to cost Juventus A LOT. The money he got from Juventus even affected team finances quite badly. Therefore I also think Juventus should prioritize investing in talents absolutely.

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