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Quote from: poldanmig on December 09, 2021, 08:42:51 PM

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Roma's form started decreasing again these days. They have a two-game losing streak now and they were able to win only two of their last 5 Serie A games. But their next opponent is Spezia and they are right above the relegation zone now. Roma should be able to demolish them and boost their morale a lot. Any kind of result beside a win for Roma, would be shocking.

Played quite well at the beginning of the season but in the middle of the season it made As Roma feel like they were running out of energy right now, I don't know what made As Roma start to be inconsistent even though now their squad is fine without any important players injured, is it possible now mourinho game tactics are outdated and easy to read by the opposing team, or maybe there is another reason that has made As Roma's performance decline today?

AS Roma is not confidence and consistent when against with bigger team like AC Milan, Inter and Juventus. Just Napoli success get one points by AS Roma after both team draw. I think AS Roma is not enough and not have completed team how to be competitive on Serie A and keep consistent every match, now they left many points from Inter Milan as first position standing and I think if they can consistent maybe have chance back to four position and back to champion league.

To get back into the top 4 position seems to be very difficult for Roma this season, although later they can find their best form and consistency in the next match, but I think it will be a bit late, as you said, now it's napoli, milan, atlanta and Inter are a pretty consistent team so far and it will definitely be very difficult for Roma to catch up with them, especially now that Juventus are starting to improve again and making Roma chance to be in the top 4 will be very difficult.

Depend with management how loyal giving much money for Jose Mourinho because few weeks later January window transfer is opening and they can build with new team and get new player. All thing with AS Roma can finish on the top four position in this season depend how serious management to get new player on window transfer, if AS Roma without get any new player I think yeah they hard finish on four top position standing.

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Roma's form started decreasing again these days. They have a two-game losing streak now and they were able to win only two of their last 5 Serie A games. But their next opponent is Spezia and they are right above the relegation zone now. Roma should be able to demolish them and boost their morale a lot. Any kind of result beside a win for Roma, would be shocking.

Played quite well at the beginning of the season but in the middle of the season it made As Roma feel like they were running out of energy right now, I don't know what made As Roma start to be inconsistent even though now their squad is fine without any important players injured, is it possible now mourinho game tactics are outdated and easy to read by the opposing team, or maybe there is another reason that has made As Roma's performance decline today?

AS Roma is not confidence and consistent when against with bigger team like AC Milan, Inter and Juventus. Just Napoli success get one points by AS Roma after both team draw. I think AS Roma is not enough and not have completed team how to be competitive on Serie A and keep consistent every match, now they left many points from Inter Milan as first position standing and I think if they can consistent maybe have chance back to four position and back to champion league.

To get back into the top 4 position seems to be very difficult for Roma this season, although later they can find their best form and consistency in the next match, but I think it will be a bit late, as you said, now it's napoli, milan, atlanta and Inter are a pretty consistent team so far and it will definitely be very difficult for Roma to catch up with them, especially now that Juventus are starting to improve again and making Roma chance to be in the top 4 will be very difficult.

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Sassuolo v Lazio seems to be the most interesting match this time. Because the rest of the favourite teams are having very easy matches this week. But it is really hard to predict the winner of this match. And I think that a draw wouldn't surprise me. But one thing that I'm sure of it to happen is each team's scoring at least one goal. They are not such teams like having big problems on scoring.

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Quote from: paxmao on December 09, 2021, 04:22:38 PM

Seems like an easy win for Roma even if it is not the weakest of the opponents.

Exactly, Roma must win from Spezia in the next match. After Roma was defeated by Inter 0-3, Roma must play maximally to win the next match at least in order to maintain the rank. The point is same with Lazio with 25. So, this club will struggle more to maintain its position.

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 09, 2021, 04:44:00 PM

And I strongly believe that Milan can beat Udinese in their away game. Udinese caused Lazio to have a tough time against them but I don't think that they can do the same again here. Milan would win nicely.

The chance of Milan to win from Udinese is exactly bigger, the winning probability may be more than 50%, hopefully this will really happen for we can see how this club playing so far. Moreover so far, Udinese only could win 3 times. The positions of the players still no doubtful, Milan is better.

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I can see that Milan have many absent players now due to various injuries. But they are still doing great in the Serie A. They have finally taken the lead in the league table and they want to maintain it on this week too. And I strongly believe that Milan can beat Udinese in their away game. Udinese caused Lazio to have a tough time against them but I don't think that they can do the same again here. Milan would win nicely.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 09, 2021, 02:00:25 PM

AS Roma is not confidence and consistent when against with bigger team like AC Milan, Inter and Juventus. Just Napoli success get one points by AS Roma after both team draw. I think AS Roma is not enough and not have completed team how to be competitive on Serie A and keep consistent every match, now they left many points from Inter Milan as first position standing and I think if they can consistent maybe have chance back to four position and back to champion league.

Mourinho's need to change his tactics if he wants to stay at top level clubs because recently he is completely failure in different clubs with his strategy and giving very poor services as manager which is hurting teams same happening to AS Roma which was good club but now having very poor run and losing matches against very lower rank teams now if they want to have some better end of this season than they need to do some better play because if they lost some more time than surely they will be in more deep trouble with current results.

After 16 rounds staying at 7th spot mean they have very few chances for qualifying European's Leagues and again going to be lower rank in this Italian League which is surely matter of worry about management and fans.

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Quote from: Turbolinea on December 09, 2021, 10:02:09 AM

Roma's form started decreasing again these days. They have a two-game losing streak now and they were able to win only two of their last 5 Serie A games. But their next opponent is Spezia and they are right above the relegation zone now. Roma should be able to demolish them and boost their morale a lot. Any kind of result beside a win for Roma, would be shocking.

Seems like an easy win for Roma even if it is not the weakest of the opponents. It comes from winning internationally on a difficult game abroad on the Europa Conference and the trend in general is very good when dealing with smaller teams. It is where the strong ones play against that Roma finds it difficult to cope with the pressure... Lazio, inter, Bologna are all a problem for a team that should be well above in the table on regards to budget and means. It seems like a team to basically... ignore.

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Can't believe that Napoli ended up losing to Atalanta. Don't get me wrong, Atalanta has been on a crazy roll, they have won 5 out of last 5 as far as I can see, they have been amazing and they are fourth and only 2 point difference between Napoli. However, Napoli has been going through a rough patch and their crazy good start seems to be slipping away from them as well, so it looks like it is a bit of a problem for sure.

Napoli has been quite unlucky recently with injured players who are all starters. If you look back on the match against Atalanta, they had to play without their two starting central defenders Manolas and Koulibaly. Lobotka began in the midfield because Ruiz was injured and Stanislav isn't really up to the task. They had to overcome injury concerns in attack as well. Insigne got injured and Victor Osimhen is out for a long time already with a facial injury. If you take all that into considerations, Atalanta had a great chance to bring some points back and they succeeded in doing that.

This type of event is what I call being very lucky, although Napoli had a great streak, everything can go down with a range of injuries by their best players, it is clear that the bench or the substitute members of Napoli They still do not have the necessary level to keep the work of their starting players, it is a shame, that team liked me how they had been playing, they were giving very good surprises, but they still have a good opportunity. Italian football is growing by leaps and bounds, although I miss the football that was done when players like Paolo Maldini, the bull Vieri were there, the era of Captain Totti or when Batistuta was in Italian football.

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Quote from: poldanmig on December 09, 2021, 10:27:46 AM

Quote from: Turbolinea on December 09, 2021, 10:02:09 AM

Roma's form started decreasing again these days. They have a two-game losing streak now and they were able to win only two of their last 5 Serie A games. But their next opponent is Spezia and they are right above the relegation zone now. Roma should be able to demolish them and boost their morale a lot. Any kind of result beside a win for Roma, would be shocking.

Played quite well at the beginning of the season but in the middle of the season it made As Roma feel like they were running out of energy right now, I don't know what made As Roma start to be inconsistent even though now their squad is fine without any important players injured, is it possible now mourinho game tactics are outdated and easy to read by the opposing team, or maybe there is another reason that has made As Roma's performance decline today?

AS Roma is not confidence and consistent when against with bigger team like AC Milan, Inter and Juventus. Just Napoli success get one points by AS Roma after both team draw. I think AS Roma is not enough and not have completed team how to be competitive on Serie A and keep consistent every match, now they left many points from Inter Milan as first position standing and I think if they can consistent maybe have chance back to four position and back to champion league.

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Quote from: izsara on December 09, 2021, 11:51:02 AM

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I have heard that teams that make it into the Champions League playoffs earn about 20 million euros, while the teams that win the europa league earn 15 million euros. Taking into account the fact that there will be serious competition in the final stages in the europa league, the economic sense of participation in this tournament really looks doubtful.

I don't really know in nominal terms but AFAIK when they participate in the group stage they will get a bonus of 15.64 million euros after that if they qualify for the last 16 they will get 9.6 million euros and a bonus of 10.6 million euros when they made it to the quarter-finals (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This is quite a big deal, especially for teams that are really struggling financially.
Competition in the Europa League I feel this will be right because there are indeed some big clubs like dortmund and barcelona now moving there

These are fixed payments, there are also payments that are made based on the club's rating (the club with the lowest rating has a coefficient of 1, the club with the highest 32 - you can see the rating here https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/tenyears/) As you can see Barcelona has almost the highest rating and would receive a large share of this fund. Plus, the club receives payments from a separate marketing fund. In total, Barcelona lost more than 20 million without reaching the round of 16.

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I do not think that Milan is worried about the Europa League, rather, on the contrary, it is glad that there is no need to waste energy on a secondary tournament. I hope that Napoli also leave the Europa League after the group stage, and will concentrate on the fight for the title in Serie A, I would be happy if they became champions this year.

I agree AC Milan will not be so disappointed not to be able to play in the Europa League, because big teams like AC Milan are not too interested
in winning the Europa League trophy. After all, the Europa League is only a second class competition, so not a priority for AC Milan. Now AC Milan
can focus more on winning every game in Serie A, which will not be constrained by physical fatigue, because AC Milan does not play in
the Champions League or Europa League. Napoli also have the possibility of exiting the Europa League, if they fail to win against Leicester in
the last round of Group C. If it is true that Napoli exited the Europa League competition, there is actually a positive side for Napoli, so Napoli players
can play more optimally in Serie A to be able to win the Serie A trophy. Because Napoli now started to play inconsistently in Serie A, even now
Napoli have dropped to the third position in Serie A. That's because Napoli's schedule is quite tight if they have to play in two competitions,
but Napoli don't have deep enough squad. So if Napoli is knocked out in the Europa League, Napoli's chances of winning Serie A should be more open.

I have heard that teams that make it into the Champions League playoffs earn about 20 million euros, while the teams that win the europa league earn 15 million euros. Taking into account the fact that there will be serious competition in the final stages in the europa league, the economic sense of participation in this tournament really looks doubtful.

I don't really know in nominal terms but AFAIK when they participate in the group stage they will get a bonus of 15.64 million euros after that if they qualify for the last 16 they will get 9.6 million euros and a bonus of 10.6 million euros when they made it to the quarter-finals (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This is quite a big deal, especially for teams that are really struggling financially.
Competition in the Europa League I feel this will be right because there are indeed some big clubs like dortmund and barcelona now moving there

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on December 09, 2021, 12:46:37 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 08, 2021, 03:20:55 PM

I do not think that Milan is worried about the Europa League, rather, on the contrary, it is glad that there is no need to waste energy on a secondary tournament. I hope that Napoli also leave the Europa League after the group stage, and will concentrate on the fight for the title in Serie A, I would be happy if they became champions this year.

I agree AC Milan will not be so disappointed not to be able to play in the Europa League, because big teams like AC Milan are not too interested
in winning the Europa League trophy. After all, the Europa League is only a second class competition, so not a priority for AC Milan. Now AC Milan
can focus more on winning every game in Serie A, which will not be constrained by physical fatigue, because AC Milan does not play in
the Champions League or Europa League. Napoli also have the possibility of exiting the Europa League, if they fail to win against Leicester in
the last round of Group C. If it is true that Napoli exited the Europa League competition, there is actually a positive side for Napoli, so Napoli players
can play more optimally in Serie A to be able to win the Serie A trophy. Because Napoli now started to play inconsistently in Serie A, even now
Napoli have dropped to the third position in Serie A. That's because Napoli's schedule is quite tight if they have to play in two competitions,
but Napoli don't have deep enough squad. So if Napoli is knocked out in the Europa League, Napoli's chances of winning Serie A should be more open.

I have heard that teams that make it into the Champions League playoffs earn about 20 million euros, while the teams that win the europa league earn 15 million euros. Taking into account the fact that there will be serious competition in the final stages in the europa league, the economic sense of participation in this tournament really looks doubtful.

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Quote from: Turbolinea on December 09, 2021, 10:02:09 AM

Roma's form started decreasing again these days. They have a two-game losing streak now and they were able to win only two of their last 5 Serie A games. But their next opponent is Spezia and they are right above the relegation zone now. Roma should be able to demolish them and boost their morale a lot. Any kind of result beside a win for Roma, would be shocking.

Played quite well at the beginning of the season but in the middle of the season it made As Roma feel like they were running out of energy right now, I don't know what made As Roma start to be inconsistent even though now their squad is fine without any important players injured, is it possible now mourinho game tactics are outdated and easy to read by the opposing team, or maybe there is another reason that has made As Roma's performance decline today?

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Roma's form started decreasing again these days. They have a two-game losing streak now and they were able to win only two of their last 5 Serie A games. But their next opponent is Spezia and they are right above the relegation zone now. Roma should be able to demolish them and boost their morale a lot. Any kind of result beside a win for Roma, would be shocking.

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Quote from: judas on December 08, 2021, 12:48:32 PM

We see Milan and Inter at the top two positions again just as it was in the last season. But this time, the current situation is different. There are other teams like Napoli and Atalanta in the title race also. I don't feel like that this competition among these teams will end earlier. I mean that the competition for the title among multiple teams will continue till the last week.

In these 4 seasons atalanta have always given extraordinary surprises and even in the last few matches in Serie A they are the most consistent team in the top table.
they are still winstreaks in the last 5 matches and it will be good enough for them to put pressure on inter, milan and napoli to be careful with this club.
I'm still very sure they can surprise them even though I'm not too sure for them to win Serie A

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As I can see now, there is not a big game this weekend. The favourite sides of the games of top clubs are like this to me:

Venezia - Juventus
Udinese - AC Milan
Verona - Atalanta
Napoli - Empoli
Inter - Cagliari
Roma - Spezia

The only game that might end in a different way seems to me like the third one. Because Verona are an unpredictable team of this league. They have surprised big clubs so many times so far. Atalanta should play more carefully against them in this away game. Otherwise, a point loss would be inevitable.

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Quote from: judas on December 08, 2021, 12:48:32 PM

We see Milan and Inter at the top two positions again just as it was in the last season. But this time, the current situation is different. There are other teams like Napoli and Atalanta in the title race also. I don't feel like that this competition among these teams will end earlier. I mean that the competition for the title among multiple teams will continue till the last week.

the fight for the italian league title this year is very tense, maybe the title race will be fierce until the end of the season, because they are only 1 and 2 points apart, it is also possible that juventus will be the next competitor, because juventus' performance lately is very very good, in the champions league juventus became the grub champion..

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Quote from: Turbolinea on December 09, 2021, 05:19:38 AM

The thing I started wondering the most nowadays is whether Milan will be able to make it to the the Serie A championship this season. They chased Inter down for a long time last season but we know how it ended. Milan seem to be much more determined this time but they shouldn't lose this high performance. If they start having a bad period again, this can cause them to lose their title opportunity again. And this may cause maybe Inter to win it again or to maybe Napoli to do so.

This year's title racer is very tight, 4 teams have a chance to lift this year's champion, AC Milan has just been defeated by Liferpol in the Champions League, and did not make it to the Champions League round of 16, now AC Milan must focus on the Italian League, because their competitors such as Inter Milan, Naples, and Atlanta also have a great chance to lift the champion this year..

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The thing I started wondering the most nowadays is whether Milan will be able to make it to the the Serie A championship this season. They chased Inter down for a long time last season but we know how it ended. Milan seem to be much more determined this time but they shouldn't lose this high performance. If they start having a bad period again, this can cause them to lose their title opportunity again. And this may cause maybe Inter to win it again or to maybe Napoli to do so.

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After playing an extraordinary match against Lazio (4-4), Udinese are going to be hosting Milan at this weekend. I wonder whether we can watch a similar match again. But I don't see the probability high. And as Milan have been doing good recently, I'm expecting them to continue to win here also. In their last head-to-head match in this stadium, Milan beat them by 2-1. I'm expecting another win for them.

Udinese are obviously losing the match. This is because Milan is coming back to the league with full force. I think they are crashed out of Champions league and did not get slot for the Europa League.
The local league is their only hope for now and Udinese who is not a major contender should not be a stumbling block to them.
They will put themselves together and energy since there will not be midweek football for them again.

Yeah, Milan have been eliminated from the European tournaments for this season. And their main focus is going to be the Serie A title as a result. They missed a big chance last season as they let Inter pull away from them. But this time, I'm expecting Milan to fight till the end. And like I said before, they should be able to defeat Udinese here also.

I can't agree with your opinion although AC Milan have been eliminated from all Europe tournament they can show consistent performance on Serie A depend how to see last year when dominance almost 28 match they failed going on with top performance before Inter Milan become the champion of scudetto. Maybe AC Milan have different thin in this season because long time without any trophy on Serie A or European tournament and working hard how to get scudetto in this year.

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