Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) - page 3288.

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Quote from: babo on December 23, 2020, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: Iranus on December 23, 2020, 04:42:03 AM

We can't blame the referee in any way. Juventus lost badly at home yesterday. Their performance was not good. I think they thought Fiorentina was an easy opponent. And they had no idea what kind of game they were playing. Losing 3-0 at home is not desirable for a first-class team like Juventus.

... and i said again Cheesy

(in another thread,.. ) Juventus isnt ready for win (like 1st of Europe) because best players need to play together and isnt simple

at moment, in italian championship the most dangerous team is Inter
- angry players (for career)
- angry coach
- only italian championship to play

You are right about Inter. But do not forget that a stable team wins the championship. And apart from Juventus, I don’t see them in Italy. At some point they do not withstand the pressure and start to show an unstable game. And Juventus once again becomes the champion. Wink

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Juventus lacks consistency. They are capable of beating anyone when they put their heads together, work hard, and play proudly. Perfect example is the Barcelona match. But then we get matches like last night where it is obvious their mind is somewhere else. The team lacks a proper leader figure, someone to take control of the dressing room and raise his voice. To tell these Instagram prima donnas to get their act together and realize where they are.

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Quote from: babo on December 23, 2020, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: Iranus on December 23, 2020, 04:42:03 AM

We can't blame the referee in any way. Juventus lost badly at home yesterday. Their performance was not good. I think they thought Fiorentina was an easy opponent. And they had no idea what kind of game they were playing. Losing 3-0 at home is not desirable for a first-class team like Juventus.

... and i said again Cheesy

(in another thread,.. ) Juventus isnt ready for win (like 1st of Europe) because best players need to play together and isnt simple

at moment, in italian championship the most dangerous team is Inter
- angry players (for career)
- angry coach
- only italian championship to play

I think, referring to my bet for Juventus winning the Champion League, you may be right. This is what it is now, Juventus players either want to go on holiday soon or they are really out of fuel.
About Inter, I would not be calling them ready to win the league, yet. Wink

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Quote from: Iranus on December 23, 2020, 04:42:03 AM

We can't blame the referee in any way. Juventus lost badly at home yesterday. Their performance was not good. I think they thought Fiorentina was an easy opponent. And they had no idea what kind of game they were playing. Losing 3-0 at home is not desirable for a first-class team like Juventus.

... and i said again Cheesy

(in another thread,.. ) Juventus isnt ready for win (like 1st of Europe) because best players need to play together and isnt simple

at moment, in italian championship the most dangerous team is Inter
- angry players (for career)
- angry coach
- only italian championship to play

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What could have been the best way to end a game with Juventus? Having a former Juventus player scoring the third and final goal for Fiorentina! Even Martin Caceres was able to get some piece of glory yesterday in Turin.
Juventus is to unstable these days, you never know what to expect from them!

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 23, 2020, 01:00:36 AM

Quote from: marioantonini on December 23, 2020, 12:33:42 AM

I think Juventus can't complain to the referees, you can't think of losing at home to Fiorentina (Fiorentin's odds on betfair were 9).
It is useless to talk about the alleged penalties or the red card to Cuadraro, it must be admitted that Pirlo's Juventus is much worse than Sarri's. three goals at home from a team that was 17th in the standings, Juventus cannot concede them

Pirlo's Juventus is a one man centered team, Pirlo is relying the team on a single player "Ronaldo". What they have shown in Serie A this season is not that good but not that bad as well. 6 Wins 6 Draws and 1 Lose. Indeed last game result was very bad as they lose at home to Fiorentina by 3 goals. It is even worst when 1 of the goals was an owngoal and one other goal scored by their ex player. I'm not really sure what is wrong with Juventus last night but how could they fail to score even a single goal at home?

We can't blame the referee in any way. Juventus lost badly at home yesterday. Their performance was not good. I think they thought Fiorentina was an easy opponent. And they had no idea what kind of game they were playing. Losing 3-0 at home is not desirable for a first-class team like Juventus.

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Quote from: marioantonini on December 23, 2020, 12:33:42 AM

I think Juventus can't complain to the referees, you can't think of losing at home to Fiorentina (Fiorentin's odds on betfair were 9).
It is useless to talk about the alleged penalties or the red card to Cuadraro, it must be admitted that Pirlo's Juventus is much worse than Sarri's. three goals at home from a team that was 17th in the standings, Juventus cannot concede them

I agree with you friend...juventus wasnt good at all with just 3 shots on goal in the whole match and this is a very bad statistic for a team like juventus...fiorentina didnt wast the oppurtunity and get a very important 3 points that will help them to recover from their curent situation

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Quote from: marioantonini on December 23, 2020, 12:33:42 AM

I think Juventus can't complain to the referees, you can't think of losing at home to Fiorentina (Fiorentin's odds on betfair were 9).
It is useless to talk about the alleged penalties or the red card to Cuadraro, it must be admitted that Pirlo's Juventus is much worse than Sarri's. three goals at home from a team that was 17th in the standings, Juventus cannot concede them

Pirlo's Juventus is a one man centered team, Pirlo is relying the team on a single player "Ronaldo". What they have shown in Serie A this season is not that good but not that bad as well. 6 Wins 6 Draws and 1 Lose. Indeed last game result was very bad as they lose at home to Fiorentina by 3 goals. It is even worst when 1 of the goals was an owngoal and one other goal scored by their ex player. I'm not really sure what is wrong with Juventus last night but how could they fail to score even a single goal at home?

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I think Juventus can't complain to the referees, you can't think of losing at home to Fiorentina (Fiorentin's odds on betfair were 9).
It is useless to talk about the alleged penalties or the red card to Cuadraro, it must be admitted that Pirlo's Juventus is much worse than Sarri's. three goals at home from a team that was 17th in the standings, Juventus cannot concede them

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 22, 2020, 01:22:07 PM

Or if we have 2 key players, like Ronaldo and DeLigt missing we don't go in the field and we play when they are back healed?
Justice and Italy 2 different things, this is a case now.

If you have a missing player you can decide to not play the game and the game will be played when he will back.

You know Torino health guys can order Juve players to stay in their houses for the sake of avoiding Coronavirus spread Roll Eyes

Yeah, I understand what you mean and won't argue. My problem is why Naples ordered them to not leave the town, a bribe maybe?

Quote from: Chrystora123 on December 22, 2020, 02:03:23 PM

there will be no obstacles in the Juventus vs Fiorentina match, Juve will definitely win by a score (possibly) 2-0 or 3-0 (as the host, Juve must score a lot of goals). Juve will shift Napoli's current position (rank 3)..

Hmm Fiorentina played a mirror card? An early goal then a red card then 2 more goals... Juve lost in 24 hours 6 points!

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What a surprise, Juventus lost to Fiorentina, 14th (!) team of the Italian league 0:3
Once again we could see that there is no certain things in football!
And they lost 3points previously granted as walk-over for game against Napoli.
They must play 13 January

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Quote from: nikola22 on December 22, 2020, 07:01:54 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on December 22, 2020, 05:34:33 PM

even with a red card and Juventus played some good football today, they are losing 3-0 now, if Cuadrado didn't get sent off, we might have
seen a comeback after Viola's first goal

we forget about the quality of the game but result stands. even without one player Juventus should have done better and snatch at least a draw. the team with championship ambition should not lose 0-3 at home to Fiorentina.

not a big problem, hopefully, Juve can correct their mistakes in the next match...
lucky I didn't make a bet on this match otherwise it would be really bad luck for me. *1 red card and 1 own goal, we could say this time Fiorentina was very very lucky

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Quote from: Rabi3 on December 22, 2020, 05:34:33 PM

even with a red card and Juventus played some good football today, they are losing 3-0 now, if Cuadrado didn't get sent off, we might have
seen a comeback after Viola's first goal

we forget about the quality of the game but result stands. even without one player Juventus should have done better and snatch at least a draw. the team with championship ambition should not lose 0-3 at home to Fiorentina.

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just finished watching Juventus...good call to avoid moneyline and go for total goals in this match Tongue

about Juve, what a way to end the year, eh? got stripped 3pts in the league today cos of the Napoli thing (which was fair, imo), lost to a team that was 2 pts away from the relegation zone prior to this game, and they could finish 10 pts behind the league leaders...merry xmas Juve fans Lips sealed

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Quote from: Rabi3 on December 22, 2020, 05:34:33 PM

Even with a red card and Juventus played some good football today, they are losing 3-0 now, if Cuadrado didn't get sent off, we might have
seen a comeback after Viola's first goal

Or after the missed red card for them to Boja Valero, the referee was giving him the yellow card he moved the hand in direction of the pocket but he remembered he was already warned with a yellow and he changed his mind.

Or after the 1st missing penalty?

https://twitter.com/Spazio_J/status/1341495094369775620

Or after the second missed a penalty

https://twitter.com/Brawnale1/status/1341496548476276741

If this was happened in favor of Juventus here in Italy now we would be in the WW3.

Last week an incredibly missed red car for Atalanta, this afternoon an illegal appeal accepted from Napoli and this evening a robbery from the referee, They chosen, Juventus must not win this year.

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It's a burst for Juventus tonight. They fell short and lost horrible to Fiorentina. Thiis a match that should've been a walk in the park considering Fiorentina's stats this season coming into the game. Immediately I saw that red card for Cuadrado after the referee checked the VAR, I knew this game was going to end badly and it has. Ronaldo had one of the best night today. It's just unfortunate that his team were at their worse and Pirlo just kept making silly substitutions to make matters worse.

I won't forget to mention that the referee's decisions has been harsh on Juve. If they were awarded that penalty when Ronaldo was brought down in the box and they pull one back, I'm sure that would've been enough to put them back in the game.

Following Juventus loss, Milan and Inter will remain at the top of the top. This season is starting to look like Juve doesn't stand a chance for the title.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 22, 2020, 05:14:30 PM

Juventus 0 - 1 Fioretina

it looks like Fioretina today was very lucky, juventus is playing in a way that it is difficult to score a draw

even with a red card and Juventus played some good football today, they are losing 3-0 now, if Cuadrado didn't get sent off, we might have
seen a comeback after Viola's first goal

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Quote from: AakZaki on December 22, 2020, 10:50:14 AM

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Fun fact, the "record" goal of Milan was irregular. He was over the line of midfield when the game started.

A very fast goal, unfortunately if you see the replay of the goal video it turns out that it is not valid according to FIFA rules in football. But now Rafael Leao is the owner of the record for the fastest goals in the Italian league. So it looks like Milan are lucky even though I'm sure the tactics have been practiced continuously. So in football, sometimes there are some problems that the referee doesn't see and benefit one of the teams. Actually the Var was created but it seems that this escaped the opposing players' protests.

I have now read an interview with luca marelli, a former Italian referee.
technically Leao's goal could have been canceled because Leao was offside, but the Var could not report it, the referee himself had to notice it and had to start the game from scratch, because it had started irregularly, it was not a foul, it really went replayed by the minute 00:00

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Juventus 0 - 1 Fioretina

it looks like Fioretina today was very lucky, juventus is playing in a way that it is difficult to score a draw

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Missing a red card and a penalty against Fiorentina, ok They decided to make Juventus not winning this year.

There is no way to miss the penalty with he VAR.

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