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Quote from: OcTradism on November 24, 2021, 11:22:23 AM

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Juventus is really behind in the points table and I think it would be more realistic for them to aim for the third or fourth position. Napoli still holding their first position which is really good for them and I was actually surprised by that. Roma is in 5th place with 22 points. But the problem is teams in front of Roma have really good point difference head of Roma. So it will be hard for the teams starting from fifth place to climb up.

Napoli, AC Milan and Inter Milan will be three clubs in the competition for Scudetto if we won't see any big change in the future. Roma, Juventus, Lazio and Atalanta will fight for the only spot to Champions League. If you make comparison, Juventus have their due good chance to win this fight. It is not easy because three opponents are strong and not much weaker than Juventus.

Napoli, Inter Milan and AC Milan will all be in the top 3 of the points table. Other teams are lagging behind the competition. Juventus and Atlanta will be looking to do well in the Champions League, which is why they are lagging behind in Serie A. Napoli's position is now the strongest. They have maintained form since the start of the season. Yet they are showing quite a good performance.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 24, 2021, 08:32:56 AM

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I think after yesterday's match with Chelsea, Juventus' prospects are more or less clear and they clearly do not relate to the championship. Despite the fact that Chelsea is in first place in the EPL, it cannot be said that this team is head and shoulders above the rest, but at the same time it totally destroyed Juventus yesterday.

The match against chelsea was a pretty bad match for juventus, and in my opinion juventus was very lucky to concede only 4 goals if you saw chelsea performance which was quite spectacular in that match, I think the two teams do have quite different squad depths and obviously chelsea is very superior in all their lines compared to Juventus, but even so, I think Juventus now have to get back up and improve their performance ahead of the game which is also considered a big match against atlanta on Sunday.

their performance for now is very clear, as for the depth of the squad I don't want to judge in that regard because in fact Juventus also have a pretty good squad but indeed their performance for this season is very bad, especially for their attack and defense lines.
on the other hand this is indeed embarrassing but at least this is a pretty good lesson for them, and this should be used as an experience that they are still very lacking in everything and they have to improve it.

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Quote from: OcTradism on November 24, 2021, 11:22:23 AM

Napoli, AC Milan and Inter Milan will be three clubs in the competition for Scudetto if we won't see any big change in the future. Roma, Juventus, Lazio and Atalanta will fight for the only spot to Champions League. If you make comparison, Juventus have their due good chance to win this fight. It is not easy because three opponents are strong and not much weaker than Juventus.

The winter transfer will show candidates for the Scudetto, because the transfer process of this player can change many things. Milan and Napoli have dominated Serie A so far, if they don't find players who can add strength to the team, they may lose their strength. Juventus, I don't know, Allegri seems to have lost his magical touch with the current squad.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 24, 2021, 10:32:06 AM

I must confess, this is not the right season for Juventus to loss momentum. This season is being too competitive. Anything can happen.
It can be that top 4 will be difficult for them.

Juventus had a bad summer with a departure of Ronado in very last days. They don't have time to find a good striker to replace Ronaldo and it makes them have to bet on the return of Dybala and a more effective operation of their attacking system. Dybala has a better season than the last one but still far than his best ability.

Chiesa is matured more and contributes more but he can not carries Juventus because he is not too productive with goals. Juventus must accept that they will have another season without Scudetto.

Quote from: kro55 on November 24, 2021, 10:35:25 AM

Juventus is really behind in the points table and I think it would be more realistic for them to aim for the third or fourth position. Napoli still holding their first position which is really good for them and I was actually surprised by that. Roma is in 5th place with 22 points. But the problem is teams in front of Roma have really good point difference head of Roma. So it will be hard for the teams starting from fifth place to climb up.

Napoli, AC Milan and Inter Milan will be three clubs in the competition for Scudetto if we won't see any big change in the future. Roma, Juventus, Lazio and Atalanta will fight for the only spot to Champions League. If you make comparison, Juventus have their due good chance to win this fight. It is not easy because three opponents are strong and not much weaker than Juventus.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 24, 2021, 08:32:56 AM

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I think after yesterday's match with Chelsea, Juventus' prospects are more or less clear and they clearly do not relate to the championship. Despite the fact that Chelsea is in first place in the EPL, it cannot be said that this team is head and shoulders above the rest, but at the same time it totally destroyed Juventus yesterday.

The match against chelsea was a pretty bad match for juventus, and in my opinion juventus was very lucky to concede only 4 goals if you saw chelsea performance which was quite spectacular in that match, I think the two teams do have quite different squad depths and obviously chelsea is very superior in all their lines compared to Juventus, but even so, I think Juventus now have to get back up and improve their performance ahead of the game which is also considered a big match against atlanta on Sunday.

Despite yesterday's ridiculous draw with a clear outsider, Atalanta, in my opinion, will be at least on an equal footing in this match. Bookmakers traditionally rate Juventus as a favorite:
2,17 - 3,60 - 3,30
But it seems to me that this does not correspond to the real capabilities of the teams - Atalanta clearly has better statistics, they score a lot of goals and they have only two defeats (Juventus has 4), so at least they will play a draw.

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Quote from: rozak on November 23, 2021, 09:28:17 PM

Inter position is better than Juventus at the moment. to catch Napoli and Milan I think Inter has a bigger chance. while Juventus should deserve to get into the top 5 to the top 3 standings.
we have to see how the efforts of Juventus in the rest of the season. they have to improve their performance to keep collecting better points. especially avoiding defeat from teams that are at the bottom of the standings. it's like wasting the chance to be a champion.

For Juventus I see it tough this year.
Milan, Inter and Napoli will be fighting.
You must also consider Lazio and Atalanta, so Juventus will fight to return to the Champions League this year.
Now we have 6-7 competitive team for champions, is good fight

Not all of them because what will certainly continue to go higher, maybe there will only be 2 to 4 teams. Because even though previously Juventus was doubtful of winning against Lazio yesterday, the fact is that Juventus can win with clean sheets. This rivalry will be more difficult to predict, but for Napoli, Milan and Inter right now they certainly have a better chance of continuing to stay away from the teams below. It's not that I'm forgetting Atalanta, Roma and Juventus, because at the moment I don't think they will quickly improve their performance to enter the title race. They are still a top team but for the title race it seems difficult for them at the moment, targeting 4th and 5th place could be another option for them too if they can't enter in the title race.

Juventus is really behind in the points table and I think it would be more realistic for them to aim for the third or fourth position. Napoli still holding their first position which is really good for them and I was actually surprised by that. Roma is in 5th place with 22 points. But the problem is teams in front of Roma have really good point difference head of Roma. So it will be hard for the teams starting from fifth place to climb up.

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Quote from: babo on November 24, 2021, 02:15:54 AM

Quote from: rozak on November 23, 2021, 09:28:17 PM

Inter position is better than Juventus at the moment. to catch Napoli and Milan I think Inter has a bigger chance. while Juventus should deserve to get into the top 5 to the top 3 standings.
we have to see how the efforts of Juventus in the rest of the season. they have to improve their performance to keep collecting better points. especially avoiding defeat from teams that are at the bottom of the standings. it's like wasting the chance to be a champion.

For Juventus I see it tough this year.
Milan, Inter and Napoli will be fighting.
You must also consider Lazio and Atalanta, so Juventus will fight to return to the Champions League this year.
Now we have 6-7 competitive team for champions, is good fight

I must confess, this is not the right season for Juventus to loss momentum. This season is being too competitive. Anything can happen.
It can be that top 4 will be difficult for them.
Besides I sew that Juventus has interest in Champions league race, being hopeful in Champions league can deprive them league opportunity.
Then to crown it all the club is struggling this season.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 24, 2021, 08:32:56 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 24, 2021, 07:18:20 AM

I think after yesterday's match with Chelsea, Juventus' prospects are more or less clear and they clearly do not relate to the championship. Despite the fact that Chelsea is in first place in the EPL, it cannot be said that this team is head and shoulders above the rest, but at the same time it totally destroyed Juventus yesterday.

The match against chelsea was a pretty bad match for juventus, and in my opinion juventus was very lucky to concede only 4 goals if you saw chelsea performance which was quite spectacular in that match, I think the two teams do have quite different squad depths and obviously chelsea is very superior in all their lines compared to Juventus, but even so, I think Juventus now have to get back up and improve their performance ahead of the game which is also considered a big match against atlanta on Sunday.

Chelsea was really dominant in that match. Even I also predicted that events are going to lose this match but I didn't think that the goal difference will be this high. What Juventus can do right now is to keep their Chin up and train harder so they can win the next match against Atalanta. But we all know that Juventus does not have the squad they used to have before. And considering their form this also might be a really hard match for them.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 24, 2021, 07:18:20 AM

I think after yesterday's match with Chelsea, Juventus' prospects are more or less clear and they clearly do not relate to the championship. Despite the fact that Chelsea is in first place in the EPL, it cannot be said that this team is head and shoulders above the rest, but at the same time it totally destroyed Juventus yesterday.

The match against chelsea was a pretty bad match for juventus, and in my opinion juventus was very lucky to concede only 4 goals if you saw chelsea performance which was quite spectacular in that match, I think the two teams do have quite different squad depths and obviously chelsea is very superior in all their lines compared to Juventus, but even so, I think Juventus now have to get back up and improve their performance ahead of the game which is also considered a big match against atlanta on Sunday.

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Quote from: babo on November 24, 2021, 02:15:54 AM

For Juventus I see it tough this year.
Milan, Inter and Napoli will be fighting.
You must also consider Lazio and Atalanta, so Juventus will fight to return to the Champions League this year.
Now we have 6-7 competitive team for champions, is good fight

I don't think we will see Lazio in the top 4 by the end of the season. For Juve, I still can't back this idea or not. In fact Juve seems to recover in Serie A but this humiliating defeat vs Chelsea yesterday make you ask many questions. Juve needs to renforce its squad or else they will play in EL or conference league even next year..

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Quote from: Altryist on November 23, 2021, 11:33:35 AM

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Juventus is even more lagging behind the leaders and is even more unstable, but at the same time the bookmakers consider him the favorite in the championship race. Therefore, the 10-point gap can hardly be considered critical in such a situation, although I also do not believe in Roma's championship prospects (as well as Juventus).

Regarding Juventus, I also think that they have more chances than Roma, it would be more correct to say, I counted until Juventus lost twice in a row to Sassuolo and Verona. After that, my hopes for a Juventus revival faded. Now they have started to win again, but the gap is very large and I don't think Inter will lose such an advantage.

I think after yesterday's match with Chelsea, Juventus' prospects are more or less clear and they clearly do not relate to the championship. Despite the fact that Chelsea is in first place in the EPL, it cannot be said that this team is head and shoulders above the rest, but at the same time it totally destroyed Juventus yesterday.

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Quote from: babo on November 24, 2021, 02:15:54 AM

Quote from: rozak on November 23, 2021, 09:28:17 PM

Inter position is better than Juventus at the moment. to catch Napoli and Milan I think Inter has a bigger chance. while Juventus should deserve to get into the top 5 to the top 3 standings.
we have to see how the efforts of Juventus in the rest of the season. they have to improve their performance to keep collecting better points. especially avoiding defeat from teams that are at the bottom of the standings. it's like wasting the chance to be a champion.

For Juventus I see it tough this year.
Milan, Inter and Napoli will be fighting.
You must also consider Lazio and Atalanta, so Juventus will fight to return to the Champions League this year.
Now we have 6-7 competitive team for champions, is good fight

Not all of them because what will certainly continue to go higher, maybe there will only be 2 to 4 teams. Because even though previously Juventus was doubtful of winning against Lazio yesterday, the fact is that Juventus can win with clean sheets. This rivalry will be more difficult to predict, but for Napoli, Milan and Inter right now they certainly have a better chance of continuing to stay away from the teams below. It's not that I'm forgetting Atalanta, Roma and Juventus, because at the moment I don't think they will quickly improve their performance to enter the title race. They are still a top team but for the title race it seems difficult for them at the moment, targeting 4th and 5th place could be another option for them too if they can't enter in the title race.

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Quote from: rozak on November 23, 2021, 09:28:17 PM

Inter position is better than Juventus at the moment. to catch Napoli and Milan I think Inter has a bigger chance. while Juventus should deserve to get into the top 5 to the top 3 standings.
we have to see how the efforts of Juventus in the rest of the season. they have to improve their performance to keep collecting better points. especially avoiding defeat from teams that are at the bottom of the standings. it's like wasting the chance to be a champion.

For Juventus I see it tough this year.
Milan, Inter and Napoli will be fighting.
You must also consider Lazio and Atalanta, so Juventus will fight to return to the Champions League this year.
Now we have 6-7 competitive team for champions, is good fight

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Quote from: Altryist on November 23, 2021, 11:33:35 AM

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Juventus is even more lagging behind the leaders and is even more unstable, but at the same time the bookmakers consider him the favorite in the championship race. Therefore, the 10-point gap can hardly be considered critical in such a situation, although I also do not believe in Roma's championship prospects (as well as Juventus).

Regarding Juventus, I also think that they have more chances than Roma, it would be more correct to say, I counted until Juventus lost twice in a row to Sassuolo and Verona. After that, my hopes for a Juventus revival faded. Now they have started to win again, but the gap is very large and I don't think Inter will lose such an advantage.

Inter position is better than Juventus at the moment. to catch Napoli and Milan I think Inter has a bigger chance. while Juventus should deserve to get into the top 5 to the top 3 standings.
we have to see how the efforts of Juventus in the rest of the season. they have to improve their performance to keep collecting better points. especially avoiding defeat from teams that are at the bottom of the standings. it's like wasting the chance to be a champion.

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Quote from: Altryist on November 23, 2021, 11:33:35 AM

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Juventus is even more lagging behind the leaders and is even more unstable, but at the same time the bookmakers consider him the favorite in the championship race. Therefore, the 10-point gap can hardly be considered critical in such a situation, although I also do not believe in Roma's championship prospects (as well as Juventus).

Regarding Juventus, I also think that they have more chances than Roma, it would be more correct to say, I counted until Juventus lost twice in a row to Sassuolo and Verona. After that, my hopes for a Juventus revival faded. Now they have started to win again, but the gap is very large and I don't think Inter will lose such an advantage.

I think when Massimiliano Allegri returned to Juventus it was like a hope that Juventus could return to the best form, but what happened was that Allegri still couldn't do much with the condition of Juventus being destroyed. Last night Juventus got a crushing defeat by Chelsea and also, the next match in Serie A Juventus has to be against Atalanta which I think it is not an easy opponent to overcome either. So to include Juventus as part of the title race, I don't think it counts at all because Juventus themselves must be able to recover first before finally consistently achieving positive results.

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Juventus managed to beat Lazio 2-0 with 2 goals from Bonucci. These 3 points were very important for Juventus. With this result, Lazio and Juventus have the same points with 21 points. Atalanta defeated Spezia 5-2. They are in fourth place.

The Juventus game was quite a tough one, but Juventus were lucky enough to get two penalties which their captain Bonucci scored. It was an interesting match. However, Lazio despite losing, still maintains their position. But if Roma wins their game today against Genoa, then Lazio will surely lost their position to Roma, because Roma are 2 points behind Lazio on the standings.

While Atalanta played an awesome game against Spezia. But they had an easy winning. Spezia are a weak team who often finds it difficult to win matches. Although, Spezia scored the first goal, but the match ended in victory to Atalanta.

I think the Juventus match could have been a little more source and competitive if they are opponents didn't make those mistakes in that D-box. And I have to say that Juventus is lucky ki to get to penalties in that match.
And also the Atalanta when was really good to see as they had to make a comeback because their opponent scored first.

There is something that we cannot deny about Juve, and that is that the team will always look for a way to win, no matter how, but I saw the game and I liked how they raised it, I think they have been working on the cracks they have, no I see almost that the players fall back and fail on long passes, they are relying on their forwards and I think Juve's best defense is their attack, really unlike Milan, I think Juve is playing with more dynamism, I don't know if the coach has made them change their focus, epro even with a penalty, a victory will always be better than a defeat.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 23, 2021, 09:01:27 AM

Juventus is even more lagging behind the leaders and is even more unstable, but at the same time the bookmakers consider him the favorite in the championship race. Therefore, the 10-point gap can hardly be considered critical in such a situation, although I also do not believe in Roma's championship prospects (as well as Juventus).

Regarding Juventus, I also think that they have more chances than Roma, it would be more correct to say, I counted until Juventus lost twice in a row to Sassuolo and Verona. After that, my hopes for a Juventus revival faded. Now they have started to win again, but the gap is very large and I don't think Inter will lose such an advantage.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 23, 2021, 10:10:46 AM

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Juventus is even more lagging behind the leaders and is even more unstable, but at the same time the bookmakers consider him the favorite in the championship race. Therefore, the 10-point gap can hardly be considered critical in such a situation, although I also do not believe in Roma's championship prospects (as well as Juventus).

The number of title hopefuls in Serie A this season is much higher, with the competition for the title increasing. I don't think a team like Juventus or Roma can win the title in this situation. Juventus are now 11 points behind Napoli. If they want to get on the track fighting for the title, they have to win at least the next 10 matches. At least I think so.

Yes, you're right - if you look at this question from a statistical point of view, then teams like Roma or Juventus have already "used up" (almost completely) their limit on unsuccessful matches for the whole season. And now, in order to become the champion, they have to show a phenomenal winning streak, is it realistic given the level of play that they show and with that strong competition from other clubs? I strongly doubt it.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 23, 2021, 10:10:46 AM

The number of title hopefuls in Serie A this season is much higher, with the competition for the title increasing. I don't think a team like Juventus or Roma can win the title in this situation. Juventus are now 11 points behind Napoli. If they want to get on the track fighting for the title, they have to win at least the next 10 matches. At least I think so.

In fact 10 points difference are not too big because the season is long enough and Napoli are not good at maintaining their performance. In a few seasons, they competed against Juventus but could not keep it up till the end. This season, they had very good start and it is very good achievement for them but I don't believe they will continue it for so long.

However, Roma or Juventus have their problems that make the 10 points difference becomes very big challenge. I doubt that they can break 10 points difference and come back to the Scudetto competition.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on November 23, 2021, 10:10:46 AM

-snip- I don't think a team like Juventus or Roma can win the title in this situation. Juventus are now 11 points behind Napoli. If they want to get on the track fighting for the title, they have to win at least the next 10 matches. At least I think so.

Yeah, this is hard conditions for them. But, in calculations, doesn't have to be 10 games, if Napoli and Milan lose their performance and lose 4 matches, while Juventus has a win, then Juventus has managed to lead by 1 point from Milan and Napoli. Indeed, to reach #1 in the standings, there are still atalanta and Inter, of course these 10 matches are possible, if negative results are also obtained by Atalanta & Inter.

But this is a tough results, of course everything can happen, for now, i think this is not possible

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