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Quote from: babo on July 23, 2021, 09:54:14 AM

my dream is see Federico Chiesa in Atalanta
but is hard i think, because Chiesa play good Euro2020 and now his price is very high (in my humble opinion, of course)
but i love dream Cheesy

is very strong player

Yes, You're Right, The last data I saw from the transfermarkt site the price of chiesa was around 70 million Euros (Updated 15 July 2021). It would be very difficult for Atalanta to buy this player, especially in a situation where many clubs are in financial crisis.

Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/federico-chiesa/profil/spieler/341092

Quote from: acquafredda on July 23, 2021, 11:57:34 AM

Atalanta's owner is quite rich so your dream could also become true. The only thing is that Juventus made it very clear that there not going to sell him; on the other hand I am sure that if the right offer will arrive they will sell the guy. Juve needs cash, lots of cash and seeing the club financials I expect many big moves before September. Wink

Did You Know That Chiesa Is On Loan From Fiorentina? He's Not Owned By Juventus Bro Cheesy

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I think that the most surprising team of the last season were Atalanta. Honestly, I didn't expect this good performance from them at the beginning of the season. Despite not having one of the best squads, their game plan helped them a great deal to end in top 3. And I'd like to add that they were the most scorer team of the season (90 goals). Maybe they won't have a similar season in the near future again but it was really great to watch them playing great.

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Heard the news that the Florida Arsenal vs Inter cup was canceled because some Arsenal players were infected with Covid-19, so it might be canceled, but I don't know what will happen because they will play on the 26th.

It's really unfortunate for Arsenal players. I didn't know that. I hope that they get well until the start of the new season in the EPL. When it comes to Inter, I think that they will have another good season. Because they didn't lose their most important players. Their manager has changed but I believe that there won't be problems about adaptation.

Now Inter Milan have withdrawn from the tournament because they are worried that the Covid-19 cases will increase in their squad and in the end it will have a big impact, so this pre-season match Inter is not following it anymore and is more focused on the upcoming Serie A league.

Well Arsenal are having a dark problem now the case is still rolling with increasing cases but I'm sure after the EPL will start the squad will recover.

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Quote from: acquafredda on July 23, 2021, 11:57:34 AM

Quote from: babo on July 23, 2021, 09:54:14 AM

my dream is see Federico Chiesa in Atalanta
but is hard i think, because Chiesa play good Euro2020 and now his price is very high (in my humble opinion, of course)
but i love dream Cheesy

is very strong player

Atalanta's owner is quite rich so your dream could also become true. The only thing is that Juventus made it very clear that there not going to sell him; on the other hand I am sure that if the right offer will arrive they will sell the guy. Juve needs cash, lots of cash and seeing the club financials I expect many big moves before September. Wink

According to my local news source Federico Chiesa became the most expensive player in the Italian local league because it has reached 70 million euros so it is possible that Federico Chiesa will become an expensive player after the tournament is over for being the star of the match at Euro 2020.
But it's not only Atalanta who are the target of wanting Chiesa Pep Guardiola also now wants to target him will this happen to Mancity to try Federico Chiesa's fate there? or stay with Juventus.

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I do not think that they are there to help each other, I feel like they are both old (ibra specifically) and it sounds like there is a chance they are there to play when the other one can't, so when one old player gets injured or tired then the other will play.
Ibrahimovic was praised for last year's performance a lot but look at how many games he played and you will see that he played awesome but for a very little amount of games, hence why there is a new transfer, Giroud is there when Ibra can't play, or they will still play together but if one gets injured or tired the other one can step up all by themselves, that seems like the aim. Milan is not really looking like a championship level of team anyway and spending only a small amount is not a problem for them, Giroud was basically free player for them and that is going to at least not hurt them even if not help them.

Giroud is 34 years old and is not a young player by football standards. I do not understand why Milan is recruiting such age players to its team, this is a decision for a maximum of 1 or 2 seasons, and then again it will be necessary to look for young players who will form the main team and this period of teams will still need to go through.

Giroud is 34 though. But his fitness is still very good and he is in great form. No club will be harmed if he is included in the team. If Giroud has helped Milan win the title in two seasons, I think that's enough for Milan. Maybe next season they will look for young players.

I have watched Giroud play for Chelsea and you’re underestimating him by a big margin, because even at this age he’s a top class footballer and he can definitely make a big impact if he’s played continuously. Also I’m not sure if he and Ibra will play together, and even if they do then one will try and score and the other will try and pass it to him, and it’ll be interesting to see which one of them adopts which role.

Looks like you didn't understand me. I did not understate Giroud. I know Giroud is a world-class player. He plays awesome. I watched his gameplay. If Whale joins Milan, Milan will definitely benefit. Ibra, Ronaldo, Giroud, although they are not young players but they can play better than any young player.

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Quote from: babo on July 23, 2021, 09:54:14 AM

my dream is see Federico Chiesa in Atalanta
but is hard i think, because Chiesa play good Euro2020 and now his price is very high (in my humble opinion, of course)
but i love dream Cheesy

is very strong player

Atalanta's owner is quite rich so your dream could also become true. The only thing is that Juventus made it very clear that there not going to sell him; on the other hand I am sure that if the right offer will arrive they will sell the guy. Juve needs cash, lots of cash and seeing the club financials I expect many big moves before September. Wink

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Quote from: masulum on July 23, 2021, 08:46:43 AM

AC Milan this season has been quite active in the transfer market, Giroud may be considered as old players, but I still remember Jankulovski, seedorf, gattuso, Pippo, even though they are an old player, but he proved that he has quality and managed to bring AC Milan to the championship in the 2010/11 season. Giroud still has the potential to give the same thing. Milan have got Maignan, Tomori, Giroud, Ballo-Toure and are currently eyeing Ziyech, I hope Milan can do better this season with these new players.

Serie A is a league for old players but it is logic because in Serie A, tactics are most important and youth players there have debuts at older ages than in other leagues. You will not see players under 18 have debut in Serie A and go directly to the squad but you can see it very often in Premier League or Bundesliga or La Liga.

Giroud might not be a main striker for AC Milan because the position is allocated to Ibra if he is healthy. The transfer is a preparation from AC Milan for the retirement of Ibrahimovic.

Ziyech, I don't see chance for AC Milan to get him. He had a bad first season in Chelsea but the appearance of Tuchel will give him more opportunity in Chelsea. He is a good player and Tuchel can use him better than Lampard.

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my dream is see Federico Chiesa in Atalanta
but is hard i think, because Chiesa play good Euro2020 and now his price is very high (in my humble opinion, of course)
but i love dream Cheesy

is very strong player

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AC Milan this season has been quite active in the transfer market, Giroud may be considered as old players, but I still remember Jankulovski, seedorf, gattuso, Pippo, even though they are an old player, but he proved that he has quality and managed to bring AC Milan to the championship in the 2010/11 season. Giroud still has the potential to give the same thing. Milan have got Maignan, Tomori, Giroud, Ballo-Toure and are currently eyeing Ziyech, I hope Milan can do better this season with these new players.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on July 23, 2021, 06:20:59 AM

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Quote from: sana54210 on July 22, 2021, 03:05:10 PM

I do not think that they are there to help each other, I feel like they are both old (ibra specifically) and it sounds like there is a chance they are there to play when the other one can't, so when one old player gets injured or tired then the other will play.

Ibrahimovic was praised for last year's performance a lot but look at how many games he played and you will see that he played awesome but for a very little amount of games, hence why there is a new transfer, Giroud is there when Ibra can't play, or they will still play together but if one gets injured or tired the other one can step up all by themselves, that seems like the aim. Milan is not really looking like a championship level of team anyway and spending only a small amount is not a problem for them, Giroud was basically free player for them and that is going to at least not hurt them even if not help them.

Giroud is 34 years old and is not a young player by football standards. I do not understand why Milan is recruiting such age players to its team, this is a decision for a maximum of 1 or 2 seasons, and then again it will be necessary to look for young players who will form the main team and this period of teams will still need to go through.

Giroud is 34 though. But his fitness is still very good and he is in great form. No club will be harmed if he is included in the team. If Giroud has helped Milan win the title in two seasons, I think that's enough for Milan. Maybe next season they will look for young players.

I have watched Giroud play for Chelsea and you’re underestimating him by a big margin, because even at this age he’s a top class footballer and he can definitely make a big impact if he’s played continuously. Also I’m not sure if he and Ibra will play together, and even if they do then one will try and score and the other will try and pass it to him, and it’ll be interesting to see which one of them adopts which role.

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Quote from: sana54210 on July 22, 2021, 03:05:10 PM

I do not think that they are there to help each other, I feel like they are both old (ibra specifically) and it sounds like there is a chance they are there to play when the other one can't, so when one old player gets injured or tired then the other will play.

Ibrahimovic was praised for last year's performance a lot but look at how many games he played and you will see that he played awesome but for a very little amount of games, hence why there is a new transfer, Giroud is there when Ibra can't play, or they will still play together but if one gets injured or tired the other one can step up all by themselves, that seems like the aim. Milan is not really looking like a championship level of team anyway and spending only a small amount is not a problem for them, Giroud was basically free player for them and that is going to at least not hurt them even if not help them.

Giroud is 34 years old and is not a young player by football standards. I do not understand why Milan is recruiting such age players to its team, this is a decision for a maximum of 1 or 2 seasons, and then again it will be necessary to look for young players who will form the main team and this period of teams will still need to go through.

Giroud is 34 though. But his fitness is still very good and he is in great form. No club will be harmed if he is included in the team. If Giroud has helped Milan win the title in two seasons, I think that's enough for Milan. Maybe next season they will look for young players.

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Quote from: sana54210 on July 22, 2021, 03:05:10 PM

I do not think that they are there to help each other, I feel like they are both old (ibra specifically) and it sounds like there is a chance they are there to play when the other one can't, so when one old player gets injured or tired then the other will play.

Ibrahimovic was praised for last year's performance a lot but look at how many games he played and you will see that he played awesome but for a very little amount of games, hence why there is a new transfer, Giroud is there when Ibra can't play, or they will still play together but if one gets injured or tired the other one can step up all by themselves, that seems like the aim. Milan is not really looking like a championship level of team anyway and spending only a small amount is not a problem for them, Giroud was basically free player for them and that is going to at least not hurt them even if not help them.

Giroud is 34 years old and is not a young player by football standards. I do not understand why Milan is recruiting such age players to its team, this is a decision for a maximum of 1 or 2 seasons, and then again it will be necessary to look for young players who will form the main team and this period of teams will still need to go through.

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I'm really happy to see Lukaku and Martinez not leaving Inter this summer. There were some rumours about them but they refuted these rumours by saying that they wouldn't leave. This means that Inter will still stay strong in terms of squad quality. So, they can fight really good for the title again if the players have a good chemistry with their new manager.

They have said before that this will not go away since there have been mixed rumors so that it raises a lot of big questions about whether it is true that the two players will leave and there has been talk of rumors of Martinez going to Barcelona but these have all been denied and they will remain in the game. Inter squad as before.
Although there are no big changes in the transfer season but I still believe in these 2 strikers to prove again.

Heard the news that the Florida Arsenal vs Inter cup was canceled because some Arsenal players were infected with Covid-19, so it might be canceled, but I don't know what will happen because they will play on the 26th.

It's really unfortunate for Arsenal players. I didn't know that. I hope that they get well until the start of the new season in the EPL. When it comes to Inter, I think that they will have another good season. Because they didn't lose their most important players. Their manager has changed but I believe that there won't be problems about adaptation.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on July 22, 2021, 10:21:52 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on July 22, 2021, 01:33:43 AM

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

Giroud is not a fast player but he contributes to team tactics from Arsenal, Chelsea to France. France won World Cup 2018 with Giroud is their main striker in the squad but Giroud played all matches for France in that World Cup and no single goal for him. Deschamps knows how to use Giroud to attract defenders and to help other players like Mbappe to have more space to use his speed.

I don't see similar style from Giroud and Zlatan and Giroud contributes more to the team tactics.

Quote from: rmhuntley on July 22, 2021, 09:35:36 AM

I like Giroud but looking on his playing kind almost the same with Zlatan ibrahimovic and impossible AC Milan will play both player together because they are an target men, I think both player will play each other and give few minute depend how possible to make goal and who will play more minutes between Giroud and Zlatan,

Perhaps they consider Giroud as substitution for Zlatan. I see it is reasonable because Zlatan will be in fourty and it is not right to require him to play all matches in a long season. Especially AC Milan will return to Champions League. Zlatan might be used more in Champions League and Giroud might be used more in Serie A.

But would you let Giroud and Zlatan both play at the same time? If yes, how then? Zlatan has shown that he is still an excellent scorer. I must admit he surprised me as on average he scored more than a goal per game for a lot of games in the beginning. Then he got injured. Otherwise he might have competed for the best scorer of the year title.

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Quote from: hd49728 on July 21, 2021, 10:57:17 AM

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Brozovic is the last Inter player that has to renew his contract. The will of both parties is obviously to reach an agreement, but there is some distance. Brozovic currently receives 3.5 million euros and would like an important raise mostly for the results achieved last season. Inter is ready to satisfy him with Marotta and Ausilio who are working on the payroll to try to touch the 5 million euros per year proposal to the Croatian. For the time being, it is only rumors.

Players always want to have salary increase when they renew their contracts. Can you share the source of it, please. Inter Milan are in troubles and have to sell players. I don't see how they will easily to accept request to increase salary, almost doubles, from Brozovic.

This request if get accepted, can result in a bad precedent in the club. Other star players will make same request later.

https://www.mondocalcionews.it/calciomercato/calciomercato-inter-brozovic-il-suo-contratto-scade-nel-2022-e-il-giocatore-chiede-un-robusto-aumento-di-stipendio/emanuele-russo/
Sure, there you go. I am only sorry because the source is in Italian but you can have that easily translated online. I share your very same concerns because this is a very tricky situation for Inter. Maybe he will not get the whole raise but surely he can leverage his position and get maybe between 15-40% more on his current salary.

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Quote from: mv1986 on July 22, 2021, 01:33:43 AM

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

I do not think that they are there to help each other, I feel like they are both old (ibra specifically) and it sounds like there is a chance they are there to play when the other one can't, so when one old player gets injured or tired then the other will play.

Ibrahimovic was praised for last year's performance a lot but look at how many games he played and you will see that he played awesome but for a very little amount of games, hence why there is a new transfer, Giroud is there when Ibra can't play, or they will still play together but if one gets injured or tired the other one can step up all by themselves, that seems like the aim. Milan is not really looking like a championship level of team anyway and spending only a small amount is not a problem for them, Giroud was basically free player for them and that is going to at least not hurt them even if not help them.

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Quote from: mv1986 on July 22, 2021, 01:33:43 AM

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

Giroud is not a fast player but he contributes to team tactics from Arsenal, Chelsea to France. France won World Cup 2018 with Giroud is their main striker in the squad but Giroud played all matches for France in that World Cup and no single goal for him. Deschamps knows how to use Giroud to attract defenders and to help other players like Mbappe to have more space to use his speed.

I don't see similar style from Giroud and Zlatan and Giroud contributes more to the team tactics.

Quote from: rmhuntley on July 22, 2021, 09:35:36 AM

I like Giroud but looking on his playing kind almost the same with Zlatan ibrahimovic and impossible AC Milan will play both player together because they are an target men, I think both player will play each other and give few minute depend how possible to make goal and who will play more minutes between Giroud and Zlatan,

Perhaps they consider Giroud as substitution for Zlatan. I see it is reasonable because Zlatan will be in fourty and it is not right to require him to play all matches in a long season. Especially AC Milan will return to Champions League. Zlatan might be used more in Champions League and Giroud might be used more in Serie A.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on July 21, 2021, 08:47:25 PM

Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 03:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

How did you see Milan before?did you see it as a team for youths?Milan is a team for men not boys.They are very good at acquiring the services of players that are of age,they hardly bring in young players.And that is how they have been for years.Therefore,Giroud's addition is a good one for them.A very good attacker he is to play along side Ibra.

Giroud's combination with Ibra would be great. Giroud can play very fast, as well as Ibra and extraordinary players. AC Milan had a great performance early last season. But in the last few matches they lost several matches due to injuries to key players. Hopefully they will perform well next season.

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

I like Giroud but looking on his playing kind almost the same with Zlatan ibrahimovic and impossible AC Milan will play both player together because they are an target men, I think both player will play each other and give few minute depend how possible to make goal and who will play more minutes between Giroud and Zlatan,

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Quote from: kro55 on July 22, 2021, 12:32:34 AM

Quote from: Lordhermes on July 21, 2021, 08:47:25 PM

Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 03:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

How did you see Milan before?did you see it as a team for youths?Milan is a team for men not boys.They are very good at acquiring the services of players that are of age,they hardly bring in young players.And that is how they have been for years.Therefore,Giroud's addition is a good one for them.A very good attacker he is to play along side Ibra.

Giroud's combination with Ibra would be great. Giroud can play very fast, as well as Ibra and extraordinary players. AC Milan had a great performance early last season. But in the last few matches they lost several matches due to injuries to key players. Hopefully they will perform well next season.

I am not sure that Giroud would be an improvement to the squad. You say he can play very fast but actually he seems to be a rather slow offensive player who is relatively good in the box. Ibra and Giroud are very similar in a sense. I don't see how they would complement each other significantly.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on July 21, 2021, 08:47:25 PM

Quote from: Spack17 on July 21, 2021, 03:27:20 PM

Beside teams like Juventus, Inter and Roma, I wonder what Milan will do in this season. They haven't made a really big transfer. I'd expect them to sign a young and talented striker this time. But they signed only Giroud. I know that Ibrahimovic is still great and contributing to the team incredibly well. But he is 39. He can retire at any moment. They should prepare a plan B considering this. And this time, I don't think that they will have a better season in the Serie A. But I know that it's still to early to talk about. So, I'll just wait for some time.

How did you see Milan before?did you see it as a team for youths?Milan is a team for men not boys.They are very good at acquiring the services of players that are of age,they hardly bring in young players.And that is how they have been for years.Therefore,Giroud's addition is a good one for them.A very good attacker he is to play along side Ibra.

Giroud's combination with Ibra would be great. Giroud can play very fast, as well as Ibra and extraordinary players. AC Milan had a great performance early last season. But in the last few matches they lost several matches due to injuries to key players. Hopefully they will perform well next season.

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