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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 14, 2020, 08:41:08 AM

The important thing about the test on the population is the % of positive ratio.
Here in Italy in summer, we got around 1% with around 80 k tests day, now we are going for 5% with 120k tests/day.

The number of tests has increased over the months but the important thing is the ratio to see if the virus is spreading more or less.

It is correct despite of false positive or false negative from tests. How about the current infected rate in Italian communities (from survey nationwide or in a local region)?

From the figures you gave, it is a signal of second wave. How about the age distribution of 5% infected cases?

It will be a tough decision for Juventus and Napoli. If Napoli gets bad result what will happen if the league will be postponed weeks later because of almost same reason? Napoli will return and fight for it.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 14, 2020, 03:08:21 AM

this is a point that i have seen being discussed a lot, for example in my country only do less than 5000 tests per day for the whole population, which is a very small number of tests, but 3 weeks ago when they said that 3 teams from my country are going to play games, when they went to test the players, they found that every 1 of the teams had 3 infected players. and when it was time for them to test for players from my country’s selection, 2 players were infected. I really think that the Serie A and other leagues should take a 2 week break to be able to control the situation, and should do this as a routine. But with these uefa nations league games the situation will only get more out of control

The important thing about the test on the population is the % of positive ratio.
Here in Italy in summer, we got around 1% with around 80 k tests day, now we are going for 5% with 120k tests/day.

The number of tests has increased over the months but the important thing is the ratio to see if the virus is spreading more or less.

Anyway today we probably get the result for Juve-Napoli

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 13, 2020, 11:16:50 PM

Quarrantine on players and a league break can help.

May this is a decision at very final point. As long as the spread of Covid-19 is not too wide, I think self-isolation.quarantine will still be implemented by the Italian government and football organizations. Of course the FIGC may also considering the fate of the club if it has to be stopped again. Because the football industry also absorbs a lot of workers. beside, paused the league will add the club's financial problems, crisis may happens to clubs because they are recently finished transfer window.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 13, 2020, 11:05:39 AM

But numbers are irrelevant if we don't know the number of tested cases, here in Italy players are tested every 4 days and we do around 100k tests/day over the population and I don't know the numbers of other Nations.

this is a point that i have seen being discussed a lot, for example in my country only do less than 5000 tests per day for the whole population, which is a very small number of tests, but 3 weeks ago when they said that 3 teams from my country are going to play games, when they went to test the players, they found that every 1 of the teams had 3 infected players. and when it was time for them to test for players from my country’s selection, 2 players were infected. I really think that the Serie A and other leagues should take a 2 week break to be able to control the situation, and should do this as a routine. But with these uefa nations league games the situation will only get more out of control

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 13, 2020, 11:16:50 PM

They are sport athletes so they are strong and most of them will have self recoveries. I hope all of inflected players will be fine of course. The problems from public health perspective is to give enough protections for clubs' medical staffs and others. Those people are older and weaker than players and they need to be protected.

Quarrantine on players and a league break can help.

Most sports athletes have a healthy body and good antibodies so that they recover faster than other. The league break so far has given all the player a little time off and that is very important because it can be used for quarantine as well as maintaining fitness.

I just found out that Ronaldo was rumored to have Covid. This is a loss for Juventus and bad news for all the fans. I hope he get well soon and is back on the pitch soon. Also to all the other player, I wish them well "if infected" and maintain their health and health protocol for those who are still in good health.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 13, 2020, 06:33:55 PM

Damn, it's so bad news!
The number of infected players is always increasing, I think it is not a good sign to continue the matches. I cannot imagine if most players in Serie A are infected already. It must be harder to handle than trying to avoid more virus spreads. So, I do agree with the idea to stop this season temporarily until the condition can be better and appropriate to start the season again.

They are sport athletes so they are strong and most of them will have self recoveries. I hope all of inflected players will be fine of course. The problems from public health perspective is to give enough protections for clubs' medical staffs and others. Those people are older and weaker than players and they need to be protected.

Quarrantine on players and a league break can help.

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 13, 2020, 10:06:44 AM

Ronaldo also has positive test result.
If last season, a few months break did not destroy the leauge, this season will have better ending.

Damn, it's so bad news!
The number of infected players is always increasing, I think it is not a good sign to continue the matches. I cannot imagine if most players in Serie A are infected already. It must be harder to handle than trying to avoid more virus spreads. So, I do agree with the idea to stop this season temporarily until the condition can be better and appropriate to start the season again.

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Quote from: babo on October 13, 2020, 11:56:38 AM

in other threads there was talk of letting 10,000 people into the stadium, while I argued that it was wrong ..

I feel absolutely right about avoiding other ways that allow the spread of the virus and consequently the closure of "commercial" sport.. for example DONT LETTING people to go to the stadium ... not 10,000

is sad, i know

but i better to close all -> we can see match in tv

I think the problem the league is seeing is the financial problem it will cause if the still continue to play matches with empty stadiums, I know it may sound selfish on the team's part but if they don't do these move there is a big chance that these companies will lose money or worst be out of the league for bankruptcy. If their own government allows such actions from the league then we really don't have any choice but just to let them be, for fans who don't want to be affected by the virus you will have the option to stay at home.

It is true that some teams have started to experience financial crisis, because they did not get income from selling tickets to watch stadiums.
If this is allowed, there will be many teams who go bankrupt. And this will also have a bad impact on the country's economy. It is very risky
to allow more spectators to come to the stadium, the virus will spread again. But there is no other way that can help the club's finances,
so they have to be brave enough to take that risk. For those who are really afraid of being infected, you don't need to force go to the stadium.
But as long as the health protocol is implemented properly, should be able to reduce the number of infected, if it is true that the audience is
allowed to come again to the stadium.

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Quote from: babo on October 13, 2020, 11:56:38 AM

in other threads there was talk of letting 10,000 people into the stadium, while I argued that it was wrong ..

I feel absolutely right about avoiding other ways that allow the spread of the virus and consequently the closure of "commercial" sport.. for example DONT LETTING people to go to the stadium ... not 10,000

is sad, i know

but i better to close all -> we can see match in tv

I think the problem the league is seeing is the financial problem it will cause if the still continue to play matches with empty stadiums, I know it may sound selfish on the team's part but if they don't do these move there is a big chance that these companies will lose money or worst be out of the league for bankruptcy. If their own government allows such actions from the league then we really don't have any choice but just to let them be, for fans who don't want to be affected by the virus you will have the option to stay at home.

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I partially agree with you, I think the best way is all players should be re-tested to see if the corona is positive or not without stopping the game and then allow them to play.
But If the condition is very deplorable after re-testing then not only series A but also La Liga and Champion league should be discontinued.

Not only in the world of sport. We are all potentially infected if we don't follow proper health protocol and follow the rules. In football, retesting has to be done regularly because you always play in different cities. They travel even if only with club, but who would have thought they were all agent who could spread the virus. I think all the current leagues can continue well, because I think all football teams are very good at dealing with infected players and I have never heard of any sad news that has come from a football team so far because of Covid-19.

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I partially agree with you, I think the best way is all players should be re-tested to see if the corona is positive or not without stopping the game and then allow them to play.
But If the condition is very deplorable after re-testing then not only series A but also La Liga and Champion league should be discontinued.

Every league is following the EUFA protocol most likley, they just need to remove useless games like the Nation's league and create the bubble like the NBA otherwise il will hard to complete the season, well that ofcourse depends if we can have a decent vaccine near Xmas.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 13, 2020, 11:49:58 AM

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temporarily stopping the fixtures will only cause future fixtures collisions, I think it's better to replace players with healthy ones so that the match schedule is not interrupted. but this is what makes me confused, we all know that C Ronaldo is the healthiest player among the others but why did he get infected with covid 19, I better wait for the official announcement from Juve about this news..

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in other threads there was talk of letting 10,000 people into the stadium, while I argued that it was wrong ..

I feel absolutely right about avoiding other ways that allow the spread of the virus and consequently the closure of "commercial" sport.. for example DONT LETTING people to go to the stadium ... not 10,000

is sad, i know

but i better to close all -> we can see match in tv

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 13, 2020, 10:06:44 AM

The best solution for Serie A is to take a break. It helps to quarrantine infected players and team members. After a break for 2 weeks, test again all team members and maybe prolong it up to 4 weeks. After that resume Serie A again. It is not bad in my opinion. Keep the league running like this will be unfair for all teams.

Ronaldo also has positive test result.

If last season, a few months break did not destroy the leauge, this season will have better ending.

Ronaldo is also positive and he played against teams such as Spain that could be spread the virus to another league as well.
If Italy wants to keep the Serie A going they need to stop the league for 20 days and then start again. it would be a better measurement because on the other hand we are going to see a longer pause if we see more infections on going.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 11, 2020, 06:06:54 AM

Oh wow a lot to announce in italy , besides indeed italy is one of the highest number of covid19 cases .. it got me thinking that those covid19 test in serie A could be really manipulated isn't it? I mean since serie A well known as one of corrupted league in the world as well.

If the number of cases in serie A continue to grow , aren't they supposed to suspend the league?(again)

Not true, cases in Italy are less than in other leagues, we are in a situation similar to Germany.

Source: https://www.rainews.it/ran24/speciali/2020/covid19/europe.php

But numbers are irrelevant if we don't know the number of tested cases, here in Italy players are tested every 4 days and we do around 100k tests/day over the population and I don't know the numbers of other Nations.

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 13, 2020, 10:06:44 AM

The best solution for Serie A is to take a break. It helps to quarrantine infected players and team members. After a break for 2 weeks, test again all team members and maybe prolong it up to 4 weeks. After that resume Serie A again. It is not bad in my opinion. Keep the league running like this will be unfair for all teams.

Ronaldo also has positive test result.

If last season, a few months break did not destroy the leauge, this season will have better ending.

that reports also now the portal transfermarkt.co.uk

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Cristiano Ronaldo tested positive for COVID-19 - No other positive tests

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/cristiano-ronaldo-tested-positive-for-covid-19-no-other-positive-tests/view/news/372806#

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 13, 2020, 10:06:44 AM

Ronaldo also has positive test result.

I saw Christiano Ronaldo trending #3 on the bird app (twitter) and got the news he tested positive while on international duty. It's not looking good for Juventus aa their star man would miss the game with Crotone this weekend and probably their champions league group stage opening game too.

The rate at which players are getting the virusin seria A is kinda alarming. We don't see such numbers in other leagues. Till date, we are still waiting for a ruling for the Juventus vs Napoli game that was postponed. I'm also of the opinion of pausing the league for 2 - 3 weeks until the dust settles.

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The best solution for Serie A is to take a break. It helps to quarrantine infected players and team members. After a break for 2 weeks, test again all team members and maybe prolong it up to 4 weeks. After that resume Serie A again. It is not bad in my opinion. Keep the league running like this will be unfair for all teams.

Ronaldo also has positive test result.

If last season, a few months break did not destroy the leauge, this season will have better ending.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 11, 2020, 05:43:50 AM

Inter has now one more positive, they are now 6.
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I also read the latest news if Diawara As Roma Player was positive Covid-19. Historically he went for friendly matches and the Guinean national team's training camp in Portugal. This increases the number of positive cases of Covid-19 in As Roma to five players. Previously Bruno Peres, Carles Perez, Justin Kluivert, and Antonio Mirante also tested positive for Covid-19.

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGQJovXgllI/?utm_source=ig_embed

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