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Quote from: cicciobtc on June 05, 2017, 05:00:10 AM

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Alegri needs to be fired we don't deserve just seria A and small cups, how can you commit such suicidal mistakes to allow them win the champions league. I thought we could play like we is against Barcelona but look at all this mess. Sack him!!

Perhaps the best decision for Juventus is indeed bringing in a new coach to be able to make Juventus achievements in Europe, that there is no more reason for Allegri to stay at Juventus because Allegri has failed twice to get the UCL title that has been in decades later by Juventus.

I also didn't like Allegri's attitude, when he said that even getting to the final is something to be proud of.
Juve theme sentence is "Fino Alla Fine!" - to the end, and the end is holding the trophy.
BUT, in his three years in Juve, he bringed us three Scudato and three Copa, and twice to the Champions League final.
it is something to be proud of.
Some changes have to be done, but the coach is not one of them.

I quite disagree, the coach is one the changes that needs to happen at the club, with the Barcelona Finals we was outplayed, his tactics was on point but he lost, But with the Real Madrid final, his tactics was rubbish fielding players at positions that they were uncomfortable with. I heard he has signed a three years contract so he will be there for a while.

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Quote from: cicciobtc on June 05, 2017, 05:00:10 AM

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Alegri needs to be fired we don't deserve just seria A and small cups, how can you commit such suicidal mistakes to allow them win the champions league. I thought we could play like we is against Barcelona but look at all this mess. Sack him!!

Perhaps the best decision for Juventus is indeed bringing in a new coach to be able to make Juventus achievements in Europe, that there is no more reason for Allegri to stay at Juventus because Allegri has failed twice to get the UCL title that has been in decades later by Juventus.

I also didn't like Allegri's attitude, when he said that even getting to the final is something to be proud of.
Juve theme sentence is "Fino Alla Fine!" - to the end, and the end is holding the trophy.
BUT, in his three years in Juve, he bringed us three Scudato and three Copa, and twice to the Champions League final.
it is something to be proud of.
Some changes have to be done, but the coach is not one of them.

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Here are the teams participating in the next Serie A 2017/18 and their coaches:

Juventus - Allegri
Napoli - Sarri
Inter - Spalletti
Ac Milan- Montella
Roma - Di Francesco
Fiorentina- Pioli
Lazio - Inzaghi
Atalanta -Gasperini
Torino - Mihajlovic
Sampdoria - Giampaolo
Genoa - Juric
Bologna - Donadoni
Cagliari - Rastelli
Chievo Verona - Maran
Hellas Verona - Pecchia
Udinese - Del Neri
Spal - Semplici

Last indefinite:

Sassuolo - Bucchi/Nicola
Crotone - Nicola (if he doesn't go to Sassuolo)
Benevento or Carpi (playoff)

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Quote from: cicciobtc on June 05, 2017, 05:00:10 AM

Quote from: sir.humus on June 04, 2017, 03:07:34 AM

Quote from: joebrook on June 05, 2017, 02:28:22 PM

Again and again, the representative team from Serie A did not succeed in bringing the UCL trophy this season, whereas the Italians have missed the trophy badly, with Juventus and Allegri having a second failure to dominate European football.

It's really sucks!
I had a really good feeling about this game,
and I put almost half of my bitcoins on Juve to win.
Now I need to work hard to build up my balance again.

But more than I sorry for my coins I feel sorry for Buffon,
he had such a wonderful season and he deserved to win the title
and maybe also the golden-ball.

well, maybe next year...

i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

Real Madrid is a complete team, strong in all areas of the field, and has a strong midfield. Allegri said his tactics was to use all the energy to try to take advantage in the first half and then defend for the rest of the game.
A suicidal tactic, a tactic for a team that does not deserve to win the champion's league.
If Juventus wants to win the champion's league must buy a top midfielder, and he has to change his mentality.

Alegri needs to be fired we don't deserve just seria A and small cups, how can you commit such suicidal mistakes to allow them win the champions league. I thought we could play like we is against Barcelona but look at all this mess. Sack him!!

Perhaps the best decision for Juventus is indeed bringing in a new coach to be able to make Juventus achievements in Europe, that there is no more reason for Allegri to stay at Juventus because Allegri has failed twice to get the UCL title that has been in decades later by Juventus.

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The last news reports says Monday that Allegri is close to extending his contract with Juventus in the upcoming days after some rumors spread out of the possibility of sacking Allegri relationship after the loss of the Champions League also sole news surfaced that Paris Saint-Germain is interested in signing Allegri, but Sky Sports confirmed tonight that the Italian is close to extending his contract to finish in the summer of 2019. The announcement is likely to be announced within the next few day personally Juventus is not going nowhere to Championsleague if they with Real Madrid or Barcelona still around in top shape.

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I think you got it mixed up, Ancelotti won the Champions League on his debut season, but was trophyless the subsequent season and thats why he was fired, i think it eventually worked out for Real Madrid.

you say truth
allegri sequence is ok, for another year i think he can manage the team
if after this year lost another champions league.. in this case get fired

but not now, is in positive sequence at the moment

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Quote from: babo on June 05, 2017, 09:54:51 AM

Alegri needs to be fired we don't deserve just seria A and small cups, how can you commit such suicidal mistakes to allow them win the champions league. I thought we could play like we is against Barcelona but look at all this mess. Sack him!!

i think not, because real madrid is strong team.. not easy to beat
fire coach fo this less is wrong

team need mental relax not available if change coach every months

Do you know what happened to Carlo ancelotti at Real Madrid? He got fired after winning the league but failed at champions league. Just juxtapose the two events and you'd know that allegri indeed deserves to be fired but I'm not sure he will face the axe yet.

I think you got it mixed up, Ancelotti won the Champions League on his debut season, but was trophyless the subsequent season and thats why he was fired, i think it eventually worked out for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: cicciobtc on June 05, 2017, 05:00:10 AM

Alegri needs to be fired we don't deserve just seria A and small cups, how can you commit such suicidal mistakes to allow them win the champions league. I thought we could play like we is against Barcelona but look at all this mess. Sack him!!

i think not, because real madrid is strong team.. not easy to beat
fire coach fo this less is wrong

team need mental relax not available if change coach every months

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Quote from: sir.humus on June 04, 2017, 03:07:34 AM

Again and again, the representative team from Serie A did not succeed in bringing the UCL trophy this season, whereas the Italians have missed the trophy badly, with Juventus and Allegri having a second failure to dominate European football.

It's really sucks!
I had a really good feeling about this game,
and I put almost half of my bitcoins on Juve to win.
Now I need to work hard to build up my balance again.

But more than I sorry for my coins I feel sorry for Buffon,
he had such a wonderful season and he deserved to win the title
and maybe also the golden-ball.

well, maybe next year...

i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

Real Madrid is a complete team, strong in all areas of the field, and has a strong midfield. Allegri said his tactics was to use all the energy to try to take advantage in the first half and then defend for the rest of the game.
A suicidal tactic, a tactic for a team that does not deserve to win the champion's league.
If Juventus wants to win the champion's league must buy a top midfielder, and he has to change his mentality.

Alegri needs to be fired we don't deserve just seria A and small cups, how can you commit such suicidal mistakes to allow them win the champions league. I thought we could play like we is against Barcelona but look at all this mess. Sack him!!

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Quote from: sir.humus on June 04, 2017, 03:07:34 AM

Quote from: sir.humus on June 05, 2017, 03:19:47 AM

Again and again, the representative team from Serie A did not succeed in bringing the UCL trophy this season, whereas the Italians have missed the trophy badly, with Juventus and Allegri having a second failure to dominate European football.

It's really sucks!
I had a really good feeling about this game,
and I put almost half of my bitcoins on Juve to win.
Now I need to work hard to build up my balance again.

But more than I sorry for my coins I feel sorry for Buffon,
he had such a wonderful season and he deserved to win the title
and maybe also the golden-ball.

well, maybe next year...

i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

Real Madrid is a complete team, strong in all areas of the field, and has a strong midfield. Allegri said his tactics was to use all the energy to try to take advantage in the first half and then defend for the rest of the game.
A suicidal tactic, a tactic for a team that does not deserve to win the champion's league.
If Juventus wants to win the champion's league must buy a top midfielder, and he has to change his mentality.

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Quote from: sir.humus on June 04, 2017, 03:07:34 AM

Again and again, the representative team from Serie A did not succeed in bringing the UCL trophy this season, whereas the Italians have missed the trophy badly, with Juventus and Allegri having a second failure to dominate European football.

It's really sucks!
I had a really good feeling about this game,
and I put almost half of my bitcoins on Juve to win.
Now I need to work hard to build up my balance again.

But more than I sorry for my coins I feel sorry for Buffon,
he had such a wonderful season and he deserved to win the title
and maybe also the golden-ball.

well, maybe next year...

i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

I agree with every word.
everytime I see Khedira in the starting lineup I hold my head.
Marchisio is a better choice, both for football quality and moral reasons.

I do like the defense form of 3 CBs and 2 wingers, but maybe it's time for new blood.
with average age of 33 for defence players it will be hard to keep up the pace of young attackers.

What Juventus really need is a regeneration of players, they should get used to using young players to reach all their targets every season, because with the players who are now in Juventus squad very minimal young players.

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Quote from: sir.humus on June 04, 2017, 03:07:34 AM

Quote from: bering on June 05, 2017, 01:08:45 AM

Again and again, the representative team from Serie A did not succeed in bringing the UCL trophy this season, whereas the Italians have missed the trophy badly, with Juventus and Allegri having a second failure to dominate European football.

It's really sucks!
I had a really good feeling about this game,
and I put almost half of my bitcoins on Juve to win.
Now I need to work hard to build up my balance again.

But more than I sorry for my coins I feel sorry for Buffon,
he had such a wonderful season and he deserved to win the title
and maybe also the golden-ball.

well, maybe next year...

i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

I agree with every word.
everytime I see Khedira in the starting lineup I hold my head.
Marchisio is a better choice, both for football quality and moral reasons.

I do like the defense form of 3 CBs and 2 wingers, but maybe it's time for new blood.
with average age of 33 for defence players it will be hard to keep up the pace of young attackers.

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i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

i don't think Juventus underestimate Madrid but they had already aware about Madrid strength but on the second half Juventus playing has slightly attacking so it can be utilize by Real Madrid and makes 3 goals because playing attacking against the team just like Real Madrid is suicide

Yeah juventus was do well in the first half but in second half, they do a mistake by giving isco space for play and other mistake they are not guard ronaldo as well so he can searching free space.

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Quote from: sir.humus on June 04, 2017, 03:07:34 AM

i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

i don't think Juventus underestimate Madrid but they had already aware about Madrid strength but on the second half Juventus playing has slightly attacking so it can be utilize by Real Madrid and makes 3 goals because playing attacking against the team just like Real Madrid is suicide

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Quote from: bering on June 04, 2017, 01:02:36 PM

Again and again, the representative team from Serie A did not succeed in bringing the UCL trophy this season, whereas the Italians have missed the trophy badly, with Juventus and Allegri having a second failure to dominate European football.

It's really sucks!
I had a really good feeling about this game,
and I put almost half of my bitcoins on Juve to win.
Now I need to work hard to build up my balance again.

But more than I sorry for my coins I feel sorry for Buffon,
he had such a wonderful season and he deserved to win the title
and maybe also the golden-ball.

well, maybe next year...

i think Juventus underestimated how powerful Real Madrid midfield is. The likes of kroos, modric and isco with Casemiro at the back You can't beat that lineup with khedira, pjanic and dybala at yiur midfield as we have seen that they were outnumbered in the middle, also the ones outnumbering them were quality individuals. Khedira is not a footballer that u can rely on against those type of players he was once had some value with his running but not anymore. He can't move his body while Dybala is no midfielder whilst pjanic who has made some good runs this season but he just had to experience playing against a higher level players like modric. Allegri did not fo anything new as he followed the tactics that Conte left behind to a and he didn't bring anything new to the table he should played Marchisio instead Khedira and mzybe try to play 4-2-3-1 and he may got a better chance.

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Again and again, the representative team from Serie A did not succeed in bringing the UCL trophy this season, whereas the Italians have missed the trophy badly, with Juventus and Allegri having a second failure to dominate European football.

i have to says the Italian teams had decrease achievement on europe competitions even most people expect Juventus will became the winner yesterday but in the fact they're playing bad and lost and the last Italian teams who able to be the champion is only Inter on 2010 but untill that the Italian team always be failed even they're already reaching the final match several times

This is the fifth consecutive finals that Juventus have lost since 1996, the last time they won the trophy it was in 1985 when they won by a single goal against Liverpool.

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