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Quote from: xzone on January 18, 2024, 01:09:17 AM

Atalanta's game was pretty good. We cannot always see them scoring 5 goals, they are not actually a top scoring team, but they showed a good performance.
I don't think they will rise to the top of the league rankings. Fiorentina has been losing points for 2 weeks and will not lose any more points in the next match. The match that will be really exciting will be the next match. They will play against Lazio, both teams have the same goal and their strengths are very close to each other

Atalanta's opportunity to overtake Fiorentina is still wide open. Fiorentina's next match will face Inter. Even though you are playing at home, it is clear that facing Inter, who is currently at the top of the standings, will not be easy. while Atalanta will face Udinese, which could be a good opportunity to unseat Fiorentina if they fail to win against Inter.
The difference in points with the top 3 teams is quite large. Now the fight for 4th place in the standings will probably only happen to Fiorentina, Atalanta, and Lazio.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 17, 2024, 06:07:43 PM

Saturday 20th January
Roma 17:00 Verona
Udinese 19:45 AC Milan

Sunday 21st January
Frosinone 11:30 Cagliari
Empoli 14:00 Monza
Salernitana 17:00 Genoa
Lecce 19:45 Juventus

Many games will be skipped this week for the Italian Supercup.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/serie-a-fixtures

First test for As Roma's new coach at home right in front of the fans. I will do well to see why they got Jose Mourinho sacked yes I know his performance was gradually unbearable. Verona not doing so bad and not so well, I don't trust what the heck the bookmakers say though.

Milan has gradually seen some games won and has given em a good rise into the first three clubs in the Scudetto Competition. Tough game against Udinese though, predictions are for both sides to score though, hard to say who wins despite the new form of AC Milan.
Five last away games for Juventus have all been won completely, let's see if they can go on with them unbeaten run yet again this very week.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on January 17, 2024, 07:30:19 PM

Quote from: leonair on January 17, 2024, 12:54:32 PM

Juventus is a very good team so winning matches like that is no big achievement for them. this is a northemes mal and easy win for them. But yes it is good news for Juventus that they are going to overtake Inter very soon

Everyone knows that Juventus is one of the top teams in Serie A. We shouldn't doubt the quality of the players. In the latest match, Juventus also won the match with 3 goals without any conceded goal. This means Juventus very confident to compete for the title with Inter Milan. However, we don't underestimate Inter Milan, they look very strong as well. Inter Milan also played well in UCL, they even reached the final round in the last season. It means Inter Milan is a very experienced team in any competition. So, how can you say that Juventus to overtake Inter Milan soon? I think you have no reason to say this. Tongue

With a very narrow point difference, isn't it possible for Juventus to take over Inter Milan's current position? and the answer is very possible because it only takes one defeat from Inter Milan for Juventus to become the leader of the standings, but the question is, will Juventus be able to maintain that position until they definitely win the title? Because anything can happen until the last match of the season unless one of them experiences a very deep decline and leads the standings with a large point difference like Napoli managed to achieve last season so that with a few games left they have already confirmed themselves as champions, hopefully the point difference like this will continue until the end of the season.
Both have turned into very stable teams this season even though Inter Milan is better in my opinion than Juventus because they are strong in all lines this season, Lautaro Martinez has experienced very good development this season and their defense is good so it is difficult for their opponents to penetrate, while Juventus still has to improve their front line so they can become a team that scores lots of goals in every match.

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Quote from: leonair on January 17, 2024, 12:40:56 PM

Atalanta had the opportunity to play against a very weak team yesterday and that's why they beat Frosinone yesterday with a huge margin of 5-0. Although such a match is very boring to watch, I like yesterday match because a team like Atalanta managed to beat a team 5-0. Atalanta completed 3 goals within 14 minutes of the start of the game and then their opponents Frosinone nature gave up. Atalanta are now in the 5th position of the points table which is a good enough position for them. In the next match they are expected to move up to the fourth position as they are only 1 point behind the fourth placed team.

Atalanta's game was pretty good. We cannot always see them scoring 5 goals, they are not actually a top scoring team, but they showed a good performance.
I don't think they will rise to the top of the league rankings. Fiorentina has been losing points for 2 weeks and will not lose any more points in the next match. The match that will be really exciting will be the next match. They will play against Lazio, both teams have the same goal and their strengths are very close to each other

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Quote from: dezoel on January 17, 2024, 11:36:24 PM

Both clubs are, as of now doing impressive work at the top, and we have no challenger for them which is showing how competitive they are, and their chances are high for the staying at the top but who is going to win this is another question which is not clear but as we are watching 5th February is date when we will have derby match between these two clubs then things will be more clear who is going to lead from the front for the title race.

Inter Milan is more aggressive, and they are having good chance for the double but still things are not as we are going anything can bring anyone down because recently we have too many injuries which are bringing big teams down quickly, and they are fail to bring alternative because sources are limited hopefully we will have good competition at the top till end.

Yes, Inter Milan and Juventus are strong candidates in fighting for the Serie A league title because these two clubs have performed extraordinary so far and are still at the top of the standings with only a narrow difference in points, in fact their performance looks almost even considering the last meeting. Both of them have managed to draw this season, and the second meeting at the beginning of February will prove who is the strongest between them. To be honest, I don't want to see the two of them draw, I want to see that one of them can win and I think Inter Milan will benefit from playing in his own cage.

Inter Milan has a good level of productivity and the front line attackers work optimally so that Inter Milan chances of winning the title look very big, but Juventus also still prevents Inter Milan from winning the title because Juventus is also hungry for domestic league trophies after the last few Juventus seasons failed to achieve it and this time Juventus will continues trailing Inter Milan until Inter Milan loses its focused and slip from the top.

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Quote from: iBaba on January 17, 2024, 07:46:33 PM

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Let me just say anyone who underestimates Inter Milan is doing that at their own risk. Inter is never to be underestimate, not in this season even though they haven't taken the title yet they are leading the table standing right now with 51 points and you must give respect to the team for their efforts in ensuring that they remained relevant amidst all the obstacles they have faced in this season but yet they stood their ground at the UCL. You see, football for me is not just all about winning all the times but it's about the consistency and efforts put into the gameplay. They deserve to be commended regardless.

Inter Milan at the moment is actually very strong but sometimes someone judges from other assessments such as Juventus who managed to approach Inter points with a very close margin and on the one hand usually the people who underestimate Inter are Juventus supporters but I as a neutral person do not side with any team I admit that both of them have the same chance of getting the Scudetto because for me both of these teams have their own advantages, such as Inter who are very consistent even though they have a match schedule in the UCL but this team is able to maintain its position at the top of serie A and Juventus also has greatness when this team is not have another competition schedule and make good use of the opportunity to reach runner up and have the opportunity to overtake Inter.

we never know what will happen next because if one loses consistently it will definitely be shifted and I still have confidence that Inter can maintain its position but it will be very interesting if Juventus can overtake Inter on points.

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Quote from: joniboini on January 17, 2024, 10:39:12 PM

Is there any precedence for that though? If I remember correctly, their point deduction happened because they faked their accounting report[1]. There is nothing related to their participation in the Super League. While it is not surprising if they get another form of punishment from the Seria A governing body, I believe forbidding them from participating in the next season is way more effective compared to a point deduction since the goal of that competition is simply to get more money. Juventus will still earn money if that does happen, although it seems unlikely given how fans vehemently oppose this new competition.

[1] https://www.goal.com/en/news/why-juventus-have-been-docked-15-points-italian-football-federation/blt4776860c5347c3c2

I know but I believe it is a reason on tip of iceberg and there is no coincidence for that investigation against Juventus. It happened after Super League seemed to come closely to activation day. It is also not coincidence that after got the serious punishment, Juventus announced that they left Super League.

They possibly realized that they will got more cost from participation in Super League plan before it succeeds and they can get profit from it. Potential cost is bigger than potential benefit so Juventus gave up.

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Quote from: Josefjix on January 17, 2024, 01:36:33 PM

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Winning decisively at home is quite normal for Juventus even though this has become a record of being unbeaten at home 17 times this season for Juventus. Sassuolo was an opponent who was not strong enough so they were unable to score a single goal against Juventus in that match, so Juventus was able to win very easily and get back close to Inter Milan's points which are still firmly at the top of the Serie A standings this season.

Inter Milan are the only threat that stands infront of the Bianconeri. Good scores and complete suppression of opponents are extremely essential in every match. The points gained are deserved by the club that demonstrates the best performance with no minor disparities in difficulty. Sassuolo proved difficult, but in the end, they failed to offer the fans what they hoped for, losing 3-0 to Juventus, who are in their prime. Juventus is moving higher this season, and there's every reason to expect they won't hold back this season, giving everything they've got to keep playing at a high level.

Both clubs are, as of now doing impressive work at the top, and we have no challenger for them which is showing how competitive they are, and their chances are high for the staying at the top but who is going to win this is another question which is not clear but as we are watching 5th February is date when we will have derby match between these two clubs then things will be more clear who is going to lead from the front for the title race.

Inter Milan is more aggressive, and they are having good chance for the double but still things are not as we are going anything can bring anyone down because recently we have too many injuries which are bringing big teams down quickly, and they are fail to bring alternative because sources are limited hopefully we will have good competition at the top till end.

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Quote from: leonair on January 17, 2024, 12:40:56 PM

Atalanta had the opportunity to play against a very weak team yesterday and that's why they beat Frosinone yesterday with a huge margin of 5-0. Although such a match is very boring to watch, I like yesterday match because a team like Atalanta managed to beat a team 5-0. Atalanta completed 3 goals within 14 minutes of the start of the game and then their opponents Frosinone nature gave up. Atalanta are now in the 5th position of the points table which is a good enough position for them. In the next match they are expected to move up to the fourth position as they are only 1 point behind the fourth placed team.

Atalanta's next match will be against Udinese and Fiorentina will be against Inter. If you look at statistics then it is true as you say that Atalanta will win the match and get 36 points and it is possible that Fiorentina will lose to Inter Milan and they will still have 34 points. Atalanta is almost guaranteed to be in fourth place after the 21st match. I don't know what results they will get at the end of the season but with their current performance I think they are more worthy of qualifying for the Champions League next season than Fiorentina.

In next round, we are going to witness few interesting matches at the top which can bring good changes in league table like Fiorentina going to host Inter Milan and Lazio going to host Napoli in case of any upset things could be surely game changer because Inter Milan is having just 2 points difference from Juventus and in case of draw or lost Juventus can take top spot and in case of lost for the home side Atlanta is also ready for the jumping at the four spot which is surely good achievement for them in this second half of the season.

But here we need to understand one thing most of the time Atlanta is having history of choking near the end of the season and in this season we have too many teams ready for taking better spots, so this can again happen with could be surely not ideal for them with after hard work losing spot is surely worst for them.

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Quote from: leonair on January 17, 2024, 12:40:56 PM

Atalanta had the opportunity to play against a very weak team yesterday and that's why they beat Frosinone yesterday with a huge margin of 5-0. Although such a match is very boring to watch, I like yesterday match because a team like Atalanta managed to beat a team 5-0. Atalanta completed 3 goals within 14 minutes of the start of the game and then their opponents Frosinone nature gave up. Atalanta are now in the 5th position of the points table which is a good enough position for them. In the next match they are expected to move up to the fourth position as they are only 1 point behind the fourth placed team.

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There is a big possibility that Atalanta can shift Fiorentina from 4th place in the standings in the coming week. However, in my opinion, the opponent he will face cannot be said to be easy. The reason is that in the next match Atalanta will face Udinese. Even if you look at Udinese's current ranking, it is very far from Atalanta. However, what I observed is that Udinese has a fairly strong defense line. The reason is that in the last 20 matches they played in Serie A, Udinese recorded many draws (12). So I can judge that Udinese has a very strong defense line.

Apart from that, in the meetings between Atalanta and Udinese, there were many draws in the last five matches. Atalanta was only able to win once over Udinese and the other 4 matches ended in draws. So I don't have too high hopes for Atalanta regarding the opponent they will face later (Udinese). But hopefully Atalanta can win even though the score is narrow. And able to shift Fiorentina from fourth place. The point is that Atalanta must remain alert even though their opponent is ranked below them.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 17, 2024, 01:31:15 PM

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I also just read this news this morning (GMT+7), I was surprised by management of Roma decision this time. What I thought couldn't be done, but Management look like didn't want to take long to give Mourinho the opportunity. About De Rossi, he will become Roma coaches until June 2024, Unless he produces positive results, I think there will be considerations from Roma management to extend his contract. I have doubts about the decision to appoint De Rossi. However, it will be interesting to wait and see what De Rossi will give to the club he once played for, as a coach.

I was surprised by the news of Jose Mourinho's dismissal, because previously there were no rumors that AS Roma gave a statement that Mourinho's position was not safe if he could not bring AS Roma to play better. I think AS Roma has considered this for a long time and they decided to end cooperation with Mourinho because it was considered a failure.
If I'm not mistaken, Jose Mourinho is always sacked in his third season, is this a curse? Lol. Just kidding.
More than 2 seasons with AS Roma and the game did not show progress, it was a decent opportunity so AS Roma decided to sack him in the middle of this season. But I wonder how they will perform after officially sacking Jose Mounrinho.

I don't think there is any surprise in this news because this was expected with the current performance of Roma in Serie A specially after humiliating defeat against AC Milan was confirmed about this because now they are at 9th spot with things are not favourable for them to have any chance for qualifying into top four even their performance in UEFA competitions are impressive, but Roma management wants to have better results into Serie A which is their prime target with having spot into top four is always good.

This is worse fact most of the time he sacked into his third year of job which make things hilarious because he needs to be had more improved with his experience but sadly nothing good happening, and now he is job less with many options are available but mostly are feeling now his next destination is Saudi League where he can make good money with his tactics.

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Quote from: udidrone on January 17, 2024, 04:20:57 PM

You are right and Atalanta really took advantage of this opportunity, 5 goals can add to Atalanta's total goals, in the standings, even though Atalanta has the same points as Lazio, Atalanta managed to take 5th position because they have more goals. Atalanta is also still competing with AC Milan to get a ticket to the Champions League next season because the two teams are only 1 point apart.

Seria A picks my interest this season. Atalanta coach, Gian Piero Gasperini have tactical plans he implemented for his team and they started doing better in matches and that have become one of the good examples set for their opponents. They're in the top 5th spot and they will fight for another good medium to ensure they're on the winning end for the club. Atalanta made good use of the opponent they faced because it's definitely going to be tough when they face an elite side. Flogging Frosinone 5-0 is huge victory for Nerazzurri.

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 17, 2024, 09:10:32 PM

By giving up Super League, Juventus will not have risk to be punished with point deduction like the 10-point deduction they got in the past season.

Is there any precedence for that though? If I remember correctly, their point deduction happened because they faked their accounting report[1]. There is nothing related to their participation in the Super League. While it is not surprising if they get another form of punishment from the Seria A governing body, I believe forbidding them from participating in the next season is way more effective compared to a point deduction since the goal of that competition is simply to get more money. Juventus will still earn money if that does happen, although it seems unlikely given how fans vehemently oppose this new competition.

[1] https://www.goal.com/en/news/why-juventus-have-been-docked-15-points-italian-football-federation/blt4776860c5347c3c2

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 17, 2024, 09:00:16 PM

Comparing Juventus' current performance with the early season performance, it is easy to guess that the team's performance is much more organized and strong than before. At the start of the season we saw that Juventus players had a lot of trouble scoring. They could not win by a large margin. But now Juventus' attacking players are playing very well. The performances of Vlahovic, Chiesa and Rabiot are very good. We are seeing more improvement in their performance day by day. Juventus now seem fully capable of challenging Inter Milan for the title.

By giving up Super League, Juventus will not have risk to be punished with point deduction like the 10-point deduction they got in the past season. This season, two main players Vlahovic and Chiesa are playing better and they are important pieces for their attacking system. These good forms of those players actually help Juventus to gain a more power attacking ability in this season.

So far in Serie A, it looks like only Juventus are able to compete against Inter Milan as they both have excellent forms and are dominating the league. AC Milan are trying to chase both Inter Milan and Juventus but they will not have good chance to succeed if both Inter Milan and Juventus won't suddenly have too bad forms in coming months.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on January 17, 2024, 07:30:19 PM

Quote from: leonair on January 17, 2024, 12:54:32 PM

Juventus is a very good team so winning matches like that is no big achievement for them. this is a northemes mal and easy win for them. But yes it is good news for Juventus that they are going to overtake Inter very soon

Everyone knows that Juventus is one of the top teams in Serie A. We shouldn't doubt the quality of the players. In the latest match, Juventus also won the match with 3 goals without any conceded goal. This means Juventus very confident to compete for the title with Inter Milan. However, we don't underestimate Inter Milan, they look very strong as well. Inter Milan also played well in UCL, they even reached the final round in the last season. It means Inter Milan is a very experienced team in any competition. So, how can you say that Juventus to overtake Inter Milan soon? I think you have no reason to say this. Tongue

Comparing Juventus' current performance with the early season performance, it is easy to guess that the team's performance is much more organized and strong than before. At the start of the season we saw that Juventus players had a lot of trouble scoring. They could not win by a large margin. But now Juventus' attacking players are playing very well. The performances of Vlahovic, Chiesa and Rabiot are very good. We are seeing more improvement in their performance day by day. Juventus now seem fully capable of challenging Inter Milan for the title.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on January 17, 2024, 07:30:19 PM

Quote from: leonair on January 17, 2024, 12:54:32 PM

Juventus is a very good team so winning matches like that is no big achievement for them. this is a northemes mal and easy win for them. But yes it is good news for Juventus that they are going to overtake Inter very soon

Everyone knows that Juventus is one of the top teams in Serie A. We shouldn't doubt the quality of the players. In the latest match, Juventus also won the match with 3 goals without any conceded goal. This means Juventus very confident to compete for the title with Inter Milan.

Juventus have been working so hard in this season and are just two points below the Inter Milan. But even at that, they have won in their last 6 matches both and away and they can still do more with the spirit in their body right now. Aside from Genoa, Atalanta and Inter Milan, they have won all their fixturings from the October of last year until today and even these matches above were draw and not personal.

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However, we don't underestimate Inter Milan, they look very strong as well. Inter Milan also played well in UCL, they even reached the final round in the last season. It means Inter Milan is a very experienced team in any competition. So, how can you say that Juventus to overtake Inter Milan soon? I think you have no reason to say this. Tongue

Let me just say anyone who underestimates Inter Milan is doing that at their own risk. Inter is never to be underestimate, not in this season even though they haven't taken the title yet they are leading the table standing right now with 51 points and you must give respect to the team for their efforts in ensuring that they remained relevant amidst all the obstacles they have faced in this season but yet they stood their ground at the UCL. You see, football for me is not just all about winning all the times but it's about the consistency and efforts put into the gameplay. They deserve to be commended regardless.

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Quote from: leonair on January 17, 2024, 12:54:32 PM

Juventus is a very good team so winning matches like that is no big achievement for them. this is a northemes mal and easy win for them. But yes it is good news for Juventus that they are going to overtake Inter very soon

Everyone knows that Juventus is one of the top teams in Serie A. We shouldn't doubt the quality of the players. In the latest match, Juventus also won the match with 3 goals without any conceded goal. This means Juventus very confident to compete for the title with Inter Milan. However, we don't underestimate Inter Milan, they look very strong as well. Inter Milan also played well in UCL, they even reached the final round in the last season. It means Inter Milan is a very experienced team in any competition. So, how can you say that Juventus to overtake Inter Milan soon? I think you have no reason to say this. Tongue

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on January 17, 2024, 04:33:56 PM

Currently, the difference between Atalanta and Fiorentina is only 1 point. Meanwhile, next week, Atalanta's chance of winning should be greater against Udinese. Meanwhile, Fiorentina has to try hard and the chance of winning is not that big because it is against the top of the standings, Inter Milan. So if according to predictions Atalanta wins and Fiorentina loses then Atalanta can move up to the top 4. It's just a matter of how they take advantage of this opportunity.

Atalanta is really in the good shape because they can resumes their positive trend that after eliminate Milan on Coppa Italy Atalanta can able to win with big scores from Frosinone and next weekend Atalanta will fight against Udinese but this team cannot be underestimate because Udinese can make big teams get in trouble even Udinese has successfully to stole points from Milan and recently from Fiorentina so Atalanta should be careful to them moreover in the first meeting Atalanta only able to playing draw from Udinese

Talking about league standings indeed Atalanta opponent is relative easy compared to Fiorentina because next weekend Fiorentina will facing hard match against strong team Inter Milan and we all know Inter Milan was very strong this season and it's hard to beat them even big possibility Fiorentina will be lost however indeed this is good chances for Atalanta to taking over 4th place from Fiorentina and assuming Fiorentina lost or draw from Inter Milan then if Atalanta can able to overcomes Udinese then 4th place will belongs to them and actually it's not really hard to beat Udinese if Atalanta can able to performing well moreover Atalanta also quite strong during playing at their home

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Quote from: Jegileman on January 17, 2024, 06:13:55 PM

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You are right and Atalanta really took advantage of this opportunity, 5 goals can add to Atalanta's total goals, in the standings, even though Atalanta has the same points as Lazio, Atalanta managed to take 5th position because they have more goals. Atalanta is also still competing with AC Milan to get a ticket to the Champions League next season because the two teams are only 1 point apart.

Atalanta have been doing brilliantly this season and I must commend them for a job well done. Scoring many goals in a match is very good as it will help to add to your goals when checking the goal difference when you’re tied in points with a club. Just like Atalanta and Lazio are same points but Atalanta will be ahead of them because of the number of goals he has scored which has supersedes the number of goals they’ve scored him. Atalanta next target is how to get ahead of Fiorentina to take over their place in the league standings, after that, they can now fight for the third position by replacing AC Milan again which i feel is unrealistic for now base on the point gaps.

If you ask the Atalanta team I don't think they would claim for themselves to have performed brilliantly as they have won ten of their games and not won ten of their games. They may not be a top team and that makes the performance a good one, but I don't think they would consider it a brilliant performance as they have had better seasons than that in the past.

But this time they are at least in a position again that allows them to play for something before the season is over. That's indeed the good news for them.

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Quote from: Jegileman on January 17, 2024, 06:13:55 PM

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Atalanta have been doing brilliantly this season and I must commend them for a job well done. Scoring many goals in a match is very good as it will help to add to your goals when checking the goal difference when you’re tied in points with a club. Just like Atalanta and Lazio are same points but Atalanta will be ahead of them because of the number of goals he has scored which has supersedes the number of goals they’ve scored him. Atalanta next target is how to get ahead of Fiorentina to take over their place in the league standings, after that, they can now fight for the third position by replacing AC Milan again which i feel is unrealistic for now base on the point gaps.

Gasperini has made Atalanta a team that has great ability to score many goals in a match. This not only contributes to their match victories but also plays a crucial role in tiebreakers, particularly when teams are level on points. Atalanta's proficiency in finding the back of the net gives them an advantage in Goals difference scenarios. Atalanta is on equal points but ahead in goal difference that showcases the importance of not only securing victories but doing so with a considerable goal margin. This puts Atalanta in a favorable position in the standings and showcases the team's efficiency in both attack and defense.

Moving up in the league standings requires a step-by-step process, it emphasizes a focused and realistic progression plan. While the aspiration to overtake AC Milan for the third position is acknowledged, recognizing the point gaps and the challenges involved in reaching a higher position demonstrates a pragmatic assessment of the current league dynamics. Setting realistic short-term goals, such as overtaking Fiorentina, allows Atalanta to maintain focus and build momentum. It's an incremental approach that aligns with the team's current performance level and the challenges posed by the point gaps.

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