Topic: Italy quarantines 16 million people due to Coronavirus (Read 285 times)

I was scrolling through the news and suddenly I read that 16 million people in Italy have been placed under quarantine to stop coronavirus from spreading, and this is alarming to be honest as I feel Milan which has seen highest cases reported is turning into second Wuhan. Further I’m sincerely praying for all those people who’re now stuck in north Italy, as they’ll have to be brave and follow the quarantine rules till 3rd April. Also I feel their economy will be badly hit by this quarantine, and what do you’ll think how long will it take for them to recover from this?.

Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51787238

Tom from Scotland asks about the mortality rate of Covid-19, and why it is reportedly so much higher in Italy. James answers with an in-depth look at the numbers, how they’re being reported, and what’s being left out from the equation.

I was scrolling through the news and suddenly I read that 16 million people in Italy have been placed under quarantine to stop coronavirus from spreading, and this is alarming to be honest as I feel Milan which has seen highest cases reported is turning into second Wuhan. Further I’m sincerely praying for all those people who’re now stuck in north Italy, as they’ll have to be brave and follow the quarantine rules till 3rd April. Also I feel their economy will be badly hit by this quarantine, and what do you’ll think how long will it take for them to recover from this?.

Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51787238

The world is in quarantine now. Not only a country. Yesterday I saw a news and it said that over one billion people are in quarantine now. It is really so hard for all people. Untill today More than 3 lakh people infected and every day is increasing.
China   81563
Italy      53578
Spain   28572
America   26881
Germany   22417
Iran   21638
France   14459
Korea   8897
Switzerland   6113

These all are latest coronavirus infected list from https://www.coronavirus-eyes.com/

Outside of china more 230124 people infected. It is really hard for the world.

I was scrolling through the news and suddenly I read that 16 million people in Italy have been placed under quarantine to stop coronavirus from spreading, and this is alarming to be honest as I feel Milan which has seen highest cases reported is turning into second Wuhan. Further I’m sincerely praying for all those people who’re now stuck in north Italy, as they’ll have to be brave and follow the quarantine rules till 3rd April. Also I feel their economy will be badly hit by this quarantine, and what do you’ll think how long will it take for them to recover from this?.

Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51787238

Italian Government Study

- 99% of their Coronavirus fatalities Were Already Sick; Half Diagnosed with 3 or More Diseases

Serious doubts about the accuracy of COVID-19 testing methods, results, mortality rates, and the supposedly unique and extreme lethality of this virus are starting to emerge, even within mainstream media and government reporting. A recent study released by Italy's national health authority found that nearly everyone who was pronounced dead from COVID-19 was already struggling with serious chronic disease(s).

A recent article in Bloomberg titled, "99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says," illustrates an overlooked point in the corona-panic taking the world by storm: the status of one's immune system and overall health determines morbidity and mortality, and likely your susceptibility to infection in the first place.

The study found that,

"More than 99% of Italy's coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country's national health authority." 

Moreover,

"The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country's coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions. More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease."

The Bloomberg article also pointed out that the primary threat is to the elderly (the average age of someone who died was 79.5) and that the fatality rate may have been significantly overblown: instead of 8%, the fatality rate may, in fact, be closer to the global average of about 2%.

"The median age of the infected is 63 but most of those who die are older.

The average age of those who've died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy's victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

While data released Tuesday points to a slowdown in the increase of cases, with a 12.6% rise, a separate study shows Italy could be underestimating the real number of cases by testing only patients presenting symptoms.

According to the GIMBE Foundation, about 100,000 Italians have contracted the virus, daily Il Sole 24 Ore reported. That would bring back the country's death rate closer to the global average of about 2%."

This new report challenges much of the global reporting on the topic which presents a unilateral narrative that simply being exposed (within six feet) to someone who may have tested positive for the virus is life-threatening, independent of one's health status and other precautions one might take, such as supporting one's immune system.  Elderly people, already experiencing polypharmacy for multiple life-threatening diagnoses for chronic diseases, are highly susceptible to opportunistic infections due to their chronic conditions, the adverse effects of pharmaceuticals, and subsequently weakened immune systems.

[Big Chart image located here in the article]

Blaming a single virus for causing their deaths is not evidence-based, nor does it fulfill the basic postulates established by 19th-century German physician Robert Koch to ascertain whether a singular virus can cause a singular disease. There are a wide range of viruses that can cause the symptoms associated with COVID-19 infection, which include the several hundred different influenza viruses known to play a role in seasonal flu.  It's also known that the Coronavirus family of viruses contain over a hundred different strains, seven of which cause the common cold. Some of these viruses exist naturally within the human virome, and never express themselves pathogenically, but will potentially cause false positives through the many different COVID-19 testing methods being used today.

Indeed, assuming the original source point of this supposedly novel form of infection came from Wuhan, it doesn't appear that the claimed singular causative agent -- COVID-19 -- was ever properly identified, purified, and characterized in multiple humans suffering from the disease (nor was its absence determined in healthy humans). This would be required, as we pointed out recently in Dr. Wodarg's testimony, in order to fulfill step one of Koch's four postulates, which would demonstrate scientifically that a singular microorganism like a bacteria or virus is the causative agent behind a disease (the most basic tenet of germ theory). Based on the testimony of Dr. Wodarg, the gold standard would have required the purification of the virus and characterizing it via electron microscope technology, as well as establishing an effective and independently verified virus testing method (which would have required using PCR-reverse transcriptase testing within multiple cases of those suffering from the identical disease) -- two things, it appears, were never done; or at least not reproduced and therefore validated independently through other laboratories and medical institutions. 

Nor were any of the remaining three Koch postulates fulfilled:

The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.

The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.

The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.

The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.

Until an original singular causative agent can be identified through multiple cases, and that agent can be purified and proven to cause the same disease in animals, and then re-purified to establish it is indeed the cause in humans, much of what we are hearing are "confirmed cases" and "COVID-19 fatalities" may be inaccurate, and further fanning the flames of fear, panic, and global instability.

For more information on the problem of false positives and inaccurately inflated numbers of both "confirmed cases" and fatalities, read the following:

Op-Ed: Does the 2019 Coronavirus Exist?

Medical Testimony by Dr. Wodarg on the "Corona Panic"

OP-ED: Coronavirus: How a Rational CDC Scientist Would Think, if One Existed

Disclaimer: This article is not intended to provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of GreenMedInfo or its staff.

At the moment, pharmacies and food stores are open in Italy. People are free to do their shopping for food. I'm not certain if they are suffering from shortages due to hoarding. However, most perishables should still be available.

With the result of millions of people being quarantined, the people will suffer from starvation and panic rather than the illness. I am wondering if people cannot leave their house, how are they managing their food stock? The videos being shared of people crying is horrifying. China has been able to control the number of cases but other countries are struggling still.

With the result of millions of people being quarantined, the people will suffer from starvation and panic rather than the illness. I am wondering if people cannot leave their house, how are they managing their food stock? The videos being shared of people crying is horrifying. China has been able to control the number of cases but other countries are struggling still.

it's becoming a serious situation, the death toll is still rising. lockdown measures don't seem like they're working effectively   

 This would be pretty funny if people were not dying from the disease.

I do wonder if Itlay is telling the truth about the disease and most other countries are lying about it.

My logic is as follows USA flu death rates yearly flux between 20,000-70,000


This leaves a lot of space to call a corona-v death a simple flu death.

Since Trump's people placed the bet that this would be a non-event  they would be inclined to do very little corona-v testing and the numbers would be under reported.

Italy has really bad death rate more then 5%

China has a low death rate under 3%  that is a big variation in death rate.

all info below is from here
https://coronavirus-map.com/


world wide is 121,564  caught it    4,373  total dead     66,239 Recovered

80,969   china ............................ 3152
10,149   italy ..............................631
9,000     iran ..............................354
7,755     korea
2,174     spain
1,784     france
1,629     germany
1,050     USA .............................. 29


The Italian death rate is really high 6.21%

the USA death rate is 2.76%

the Chinese death rate is 3.89%

So who is reporting correctly.

I know USA wants to underreport
Maybe Italy is over reporting to get some fiat printed

who knows.

The problem is that even in Italy, debt isn't debt. When the money was borrowed, it wasn't borrowed. New money was created to give to the so-called borrower as a so-called loan. Since the borrower wasn't really a borrower, and the loan wasn't really a loan, why should anybody pay it back, since they didn't borrow it in the first place?

The Mafia is simply deluded as to how they were the pansy in the government's/banks' creations of new money.

italy is the country of mafia, making panic about corona is a deliberate attempt in order to print a ton of money and get out of their debt.

 This would be pretty funny if people were not dying from the disease.

I do wonder if Itlay is telling the truth about the disease and most other countries are lying about it.