We cannot control these video tutorials flooding in Youtube, as they are either increasing their views/subscribers or they are benefiting from it the other way. Just like what bloggers are doing, having both a Youtube Channel and a Steemit account where they show tutorials on how to have more up votes and how to increase followers. So what Bitcointalk do is to either limit the bounty and signature campaign or limit and control the members flooding the site.
The Merit System will only affect members participating in Signature campaigns but Bounty Campaigns seems to be not affected with the Merit System as their campaigns run externally through social media sites. Either BCT should limit the bounty campaigns each month (through a bidding system) or limit their participants of the campaign, so that only a few members can participate.
Topic: It's no wonder we are infested with bounty and airdrop spammers - page 2. (Read 946 times)
I got into trouble a few months ago and opened a reputation thread to clarify the situation. One of the users Digaran suggested to me to find 200 attempts of forum rules abuse and then again ask for the withdrawal of the red trust.
I like this suggestion, but I can find 200 bad posts much faster than I can find 10 users guilty of plagiarism.Quote
Recently I reported over a dozen of such cases on a daily basis and my result is more as 300 reports with 99% accuracy. I found all kind of forum rules abuse spam, off-topic, merit trading, account farming, spam bots, not in English, ref links, only quotes, plagiarism, scam, etc.
One piece of advice: don't search for them, just read threads you're interested in. You'll find them without searching for them.Quote
Of course, it didn't help to undo the red trust but I wanted to share these story with you because now you know, more or less, how much time it can take to report 200 or more abusers to an ordinary member who has never done it before.
Each report takes me about 5-10 seconds. If you don't just search for them, it's not much extra work to report them when you see them. 
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...Suggestion to earn an unban after plagiarism:
What if someone who is banned for plagiarism can earn an unban by redeeming themselves reporting others? If someone reports 10 accounts (with more activity than their own account) for plagiarism, I suggest to give him another chance. This could lead to a growing number of cheaters competing to find other cheaters, nicely cleaning up the forum.
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I got into trouble a few months ago and opened a reputation thread to clarify the situation. One of the users Digaran suggested to me to find 200 attempts of forum rules abuse and then again ask for the withdrawal of the red trust.
I thought this is a great advise so I started to report abuse. At first, I had problems and I was not sure if I was right because many spammers and others dealing with bending the system are very smart and know how to mask. For a few weeks, I found 14 attempts to break the rules with the accuracy of 85%. Over time, I've trained myself and started to notice rules violation much faster. Recently I reported over a dozen of such cases on a daily basis and my result is more as 300 reports with 99% accuracy. I found all kind of forum rules abuse spam, off-topic, merit trading, account farming, spam bots, not in English, ref links, only quotes, plagiarism, scam, etc.
Of course, it didn't help to undo the red trust but I wanted to share these story with you because now you know, more or less, how much time it can take to report 200 or more abusers to an ordinary member who has never done it before.
~and we follow the logic proposed by LoyceV then it simply means that banned Sr.Member can now create 11 accounts and will lurk in all mega spam threads for an year ( to gather activity more than his Sr. member account.).
Do you really think these spammers are going to spend a year to get one account back?
~and we follow the logic proposed by LoyceV then it simply means that banned Sr.Member can now create 11 accounts and will lurk in all mega spam threads for an year ( to gather activity more than his Sr. member account.).
Do you really think these spammers are going to spend a year to get one account back?
This can be easily avoided by requiring that account to maintain at least half of maximum activity during that period.
Not going silent and after a year bum! 10 reports.
I wound't be concerned about them cheating as they would also have to compete with other members in spotting the posts and if somebody is reporting all his 10 catches just a few minutes after the post have been made it's clearly suspicious.
There is another problem, while this restricts them from reporting their own alts it also narrows their potential true reports, as most of the plagiarism here is done by members with low activity who just want to get a low level account for bounty purposes.
So I doubt anyone would take this offer...
I've only caught 2 doing that and they were both juniors (I think), this while I've checked more than a hundred texts, so from my point of view it will be next to impossible recovering my account in such a short time to actually be worth it if I were an account farmer with god knows how many alts.
~and we follow the logic proposed by LoyceV then it simply means that banned Sr.Member can now create 11 accounts and will lurk in all mega spam threads for an year ( to gather activity more than his Sr. member account.).
Do you really think these spammers are going to spend a year to get one account back?
Then I think you mean Merits/Rank only, because Activity will be gained with time but it will not cause account to rank up.
I think you didn't understand what the subject of the conversation you quoted was. It had nothing to do with rank.
I just want to point that you can have Jr.Member with 250 activity and Senior Member also with 250 activity. (Due to Merits).
If somebody Sr.Member account get banned at 250 activity and we follow the logic proposed by LoyceV then it simply means that banned Sr.Member can now create 11 accounts and will lurk in all mega spam threads for an year ( to gather activity more than his Sr. member account.).
Afterwards he will report his 10 alt accounts with 11th account (I assume they will remain Jr.Member only due to their shit post and will have activity more than 250) and he will get back his senior member account (because he reported 10 accounts that has more activity than him.)
That's why I stressed on rank, if we take rank then he need to report 10 hero accounts to get his account back.
But do not know how the "Legendary" will get their account back, might be they need to report 10 Legendary.
Proposed by LoyceV
The problem I can see is that they would just sign up another 10 alts, copy paste with them and then report their own alts. Thus gaining their main account that got banned back.
I thought of that, that's why the accounts they report need to have a higher activity than their own. It's not worth spamming with 10 new accounts, just to get one back.My bad. I missed that higher activity thing. Might work but I'm not sure that most of these people are really likely to put any work into something. There might be a few exceptions where someone just wasn't aware they need to link to the original source.
Then I think you mean Merits/Rank only, because Activity will be gained with time but it will not cause account to rank up.
I think you didn't understand what the subject of the conversation you quoted was. It had nothing to do with rank.
Then I think you mean Merits/Rank only, because Activity will be gained with time but it will not cause account to rank up.
Activity is the only thing that initiates a rank update, and it is based on regular community participation over a period of time, and it has limits to avoid over-accelerated rank increases. Merit is a barrier to prevent spammers and other low value posters from increasing rank - it does not initiate a rank update in itself.
The problem I can see is that they would just sign up another 10 alts, copy paste with them and then report their own alts. Thus gaining their main account that got banned back.
I thought of that, that's why the accounts they report need to have a higher activity than their own. It's not worth spamming with 10 new accounts, just to get one back.My bad. I missed that higher activity thing. Might work but I'm not sure that most of these people are really likely to put any work into something. There might be a few exceptions where someone just wasn't aware they need to link to the original source.
Then I think you mean Merits/Rank only, because Activity will be gained with time but it will not cause account to rank up.
What's the community opinion on discussing Steemit here? I did a quick search, and a couple of years ago threads with Steemit links were being deleted. I joined it recently to pick up a few dollars from my photography, and that was the original purpose of Steemit. However, it seems that the current focus is on promoting the Steem crypto-currencies, and blogging about bounty and other scams. I think honest rewards for content producers is worth discussing, especially if payment can be received in Bitcoin.
The problem I can see is that they would just sign up another 10 alts, copy paste with them and then report their own alts. Thus gaining their main account that got banned back.
I thought of that, that's why the accounts they report need to have a higher activity than their own. It's not worth spamming with 10 new accounts, just to get one back.My bad. I missed that higher activity thing. Might work but I'm not sure that most of these people are really likely to put any work into something. There might be a few exceptions where someone just wasn't aware they need to link to the original source.
The problem I can see is that they would just sign up another 10 alts, copy paste with them and then report their own alts. Thus gaining their main account that got banned back.
I thought of that, that's why the accounts they report need to have a higher activity than their own. It's not worth spamming with 10 new accounts, just to get one back. Suggestion to earn an unban after plagiarism:
What if someone who is banned for plagiarism can earn an unban by redeeming themselves reporting others? If someone reports 10 accounts (with more activity than their own account) for plagiarism, I suggest to give him another chance. This could lead to a growing number of cheaters competing to find other cheaters, nicely cleaning up the forum.
Thoughts?
What if someone who is banned for plagiarism can earn an unban by redeeming themselves reporting others? If someone reports 10 accounts (with more activity than their own account) for plagiarism, I suggest to give him another chance. This could lead to a growing number of cheaters competing to find other cheaters, nicely cleaning up the forum.
Thoughts?
The problem I can see is that they would just sign up another 10 alts, copy paste with them and then report their own alts. Thus gaining their main account that got banned back.
That is, you want that every mentioned term of definition the mathematical formula must have a quote primary source like this
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. Your mistake was using copy/paste, and you got busted.Quote
Then you can 80% of the forum for plagiarism bans, because the Internet does not have primary sources
I wouldn't be surprised if 80% is indeed guilty.Suggestion to earn an unban after plagiarism:
What if someone who is banned for plagiarism can earn an unban by redeeming themselves reporting others? If someone reports 10 accounts (with more activity than their own account) for plagiarism, I suggest to give him another chance. This could lead to a growing number of cheaters competing to find other cheaters, nicely cleaning up the forum.
Thoughts?
I have the solution to remove (I think about of) 90% of scammers on bounties, I will post it when I will have time to do so.
The Dear Flying Hellfish plagiarist species is not familiar with the economy in general, he refers to this site but this site is not the first source and I could not refer to it because it was a reference not to the source
(https://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp)
Plagiarism can be proven without finding the original source. Any older source is enough to prove you copied it.(https://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp)
The original source is what you should have linked to, to make clear it's a quote and not your own work.
How many forum signups a day are there? Newbie jail sounds cumbersome at this point.
The numbers make it nigh on impossible. With a million accounts signing up in the last year, the mods will have their hands full if they start evaluating all members. Newbie jail isn't bad, but asking moderators to evaluate all accounts would be asking too much.
I suspect most of them wouldn't post, but having read Bitarts post, I think it could be combined with a merit count. You need to earn at least 5 merits ( say) to be able to post on other boards. That would allow the community to choose new members to allow onto the main boards.
I'm guessing it'll get neglected and not many people will escape newbie jail. The bigger problem there is the Beginners forum will probably become endless threads about being stuck on that board.
The numbers make it nigh on impossible. With a million accounts signing up in the last year, the mods will have their hands full if they start evaluating all members. Newbie jail isn't bad, but asking moderators to evaluate all accounts would be asking too much.
I suspect most of them wouldn't post, but having read Bitarts post, I think it could be combined with a merit count. You need to earn at least 5 merits ( say) to be able to post on other boards. That would allow the community to choose new members to allow onto the main boards.
I'm guessing it'll get neglected and not many people will escape newbie jail. The bigger problem there is the Beginners forum will probably become endless threads about being stuck on that board.
Here is just one of the YouTube spamming tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH7B5lWFSE
The suggested post is the usual rubbish that we need to eradicate, and the YouTube viewer replying doesn't even appear to be competent enough to work through the signup process.
I believe that we need a startup board, so that the mods can evaluate new members. Without that it will not be possible to control the flood of several thousand hopeful spammers every day.
Some of the spammer's of this forum is from in the newbies they dont have enough information about bitcoin and that they can answer the question or in a topic correctly. So they have moderators they do there work to help newbies to stop spamming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQH7B5lWFSE
The suggested post is the usual rubbish that we need to eradicate, and the YouTube viewer replying doesn't even appear to be competent enough to work through the signup process.
I believe that we need a startup board, so that the mods can evaluate new members. Without that it will not be possible to control the flood of several thousand hopeful spammers every day.
Supply and demand is perhaps one of the most fundamental concepts of economics and it is the backbone of a market economy.
Supply - We created merit we had to expect such great demand for this product
Demand - In this period the demand is very high in merit, and we will get these videos and shitty posts.
The relationship between demand and supply underlie the forces behind the allocation of resources. In market economy theories, demand and supply theory will allocate resources in the most efficient way possible.
A, B and C are points on the demand curve. Each point on the curve reflects a direct correlation between quantity demanded (Q) and merit (P). So, at point A, the quantity demanded will be Q1 and the merit will be P1, and so on. The demand relationship curve illustrates the negative relationship between merit and quantity demanded write created post and video. The less a person needs merit, the better the quality of his messages and post (A), and the more a person needs merit, the more shitty messages he will write (C).
Supply - We created merit we had to expect such great demand for this product
Demand - In this period the demand is very high in merit, and we will get these videos and shitty posts.
The relationship between demand and supply underlie the forces behind the allocation of resources. In market economy theories, demand and supply theory will allocate resources in the most efficient way possible.
A, B and C are points on the demand curve. Each point on the curve reflects a direct correlation between quantity demanded (Q) and merit (P). So, at point A, the quantity demanded will be Q1 and the merit will be P1, and so on. The demand relationship curve illustrates the negative relationship between merit and quantity demanded write created post and video. The less a person needs merit, the better the quality of his messages and post (A), and the more a person needs merit, the more shitty messages he will write (C).
Did you just copy and paste this here??
BRB I'll go grab the source for you and then report you so you can be banned...
Bolded sections plagiarized from: https://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp
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