Topic: It's no wonder we are infested with bounty and airdrop spammers (Read 876 times)

Yes, I sent PM to Hillarious after 300 reports with all kind of forum abuse but mostly spam, off-topic, spambots with an accuracy of 99%. Never responded like to all other messages. Today I have already 810 with an accuracy of 100%.

I changed my neutral reputation to positive in The Pharmacist profile after he withdraws red trust given to me after reading an explanation in my reputation thread. I supported sooner The Pharmacist and wrote in my post that I agree with his judgments and I see him as an asset (I have my posts as a proof and I could use it for reference but if most known members don't leave it, I thought isn't needed or even better to left it empty). There are few positive ratings in his profile without reference from Vod, Lauda, Actmyname, Hhampuz and only one with reference from Yahoo62278. I don't see any problem here but maybe I am wrong (this will be not the first time) so please explain what you mean about that?

I traded few times with people using a Telegram chat group started on BTT. I had few trades in this group and few persons leave me positive reputation. I thought I should send back if the trade was successful but there was no reference because we chatted on Telegram and I don't save my Telegram chats. If this is again problem I already deleted mine from Polonez account but I can do nothing with positive trust in my account from other members.

Why wouldn't you remove the red tag if you were him? Why this reference is such a big problem if highest DT members don't leave it either?

I don't search for them for a purpose. Exactly, as you say, I just enjoy reading. I invest in ICO for almost 2 years. That is why 80% of my time I spent on Altcoin section reading ANN threads when researching interesting projects. 5 or 10 seconds is enough to report post but what to do if a thread is flooded by spammers and there are 60 "great project" and "good" posts in a row? How much time do you think I need to report this garbage?

How to report such a thread flooded with spam? How to report a spammer with 80% of 2 words posts in his account?Using report button?

Of course, on a wave of last year hype  a lot of new people appeared on the form. They are not here to develop the community and not even because they are interested in crypto, they just want to make money. On the one hand there is nothing wrong with this, on the other hand, the amount of spam and grieve. Most likely, developers will change the course for creating quality content.

Since your MO is to spread completely false, baseless accusations fueled entirely by your own confirmation bias I feel I should respond so that a normal user can have both sides of the story and make up there own mind.

Several topics that were about that general topic had been opened in a few days.  In actual fact iirc I think I locked or deleted another thread (or 2) with a similar theme.  Keeping the discussion on a similar topic in a single thread is done to keep the redundant spam mega threads to a minimum.  Of course you are so close to the topic that your confirmation bias couldn't possibly allow you to think there was another possibility other than my desire to censor.

There must be 15 threads (I did not actually count) about god, athiesm, religion, spirituality and every other synonym for those words already in the sub.  There are new ones created all the time.  The thread in question was already 42 pages long and had long before became a spam mega thread with the last several pages of "one line shitposts".  The other threads still open had some actual discussion between opposing view points so it was left open.  Matter of fact the thread you say are my own threads are not my threads I did not start it, so stop lying.

Again it's clear in the last case your confirmation bias won't allow you to see any possibility other than a godless cunt censoring a topic.

You are a butthurt troll with a confirmation bias a 100 miles long.  You make blanket statements that are provably false.  Readers should hear this opinion before making a decision on the validity of your claims.

Edit: Apologies for going off topic OP but I felt I needed to respond to this trolls accusations.
Edit 2: to fix quotes

I'm all for bringing back Newbie Jail at least until they've proven they're not spambots at least. I've brought up the Jr. Member signatures issue before. I'm sure when theymos removed links from them he wasn't expecting the spam sig campaigns to carry on paying them for using text URLs.

At some stage this forum is going to have to revert to restricting new and low value members to starter boards. I'll leave you guys to debate the escape criteria, but a minimum merit count should be one of them imho. Maybe signatures should also be blocked for starter members as well.

Faucets have a really hard time keeping cheaters away. It's very easy to go to the Off-topic or Altcoin board and report thousands of posts. It's just kinda pointless as those boards have millions more useless posts.
Just out of curiosity: how much would a report pay? It takes 5-10 seconds to report a bad post, and I love getting paid in a cleaner forum.
Lately, I've been reporting more posts than I make, and in a few months my total reports will overtake my post count.

Not admin, mod picking. and here is the result locking a thread stating there is another one similar to that but never providing a link to the same topic. or this one is providing a link but there are no similarities between the two topics.  how about this one? isn't this a discrimination? your own topic(as legendster's own topic started by legendster) is still open which ironically is about Godless cunts and their opinions. it is indeed no wonder we are infested with bounty garbage posters.


Would you like to get paid by reporting garbage posts with one of your alts which has no signature? you don't even want others to get anything even if it is just in your imagination. your suggestion is not going to favour everybody equally, just a select group. facking lol.


For now let us see what will happen to somebody who has reported more than 200 posts accurately in hopes of red tag removal for apparent merit trading, let us see if mods give a fuck or not.

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EDIT: in red above and the following:

@Flying Hellfish, I know that you are not going to be fired as a mod, I'm just trying to criticize you constructively. also you should know that I have no dignity, so calling me a lying troll is meaningless for me.

Last time I proposed to give some merits for reporting e.g. 20 copypasters, the answer was spammers would register new accounts to copypaste and they will report them just to gain the merit...
The same can apply if we give payment for reporting posts...
But this can work if there will be really only a selected group of people (or selected by a minimum merit count) who will be able to report for payment... and this will motivate members to earn merits, because it can lead them to another kind of payment job, the reporter...

The problem with all incentives is the possibility to be abused, but making it sort of sub-moderator job might be a good way to deal with that. I guess that really leaves the question of whether there is a budget to pay for it.

We used to have one. Lovingly called the Newbie jail.
I suggested an alternative Merit Jail as well.
I think there should be more mods but that's my pov. I am pretty sure the forum can afford it. It's a matter of will and consensus.



He recently did that with the Politics & Society admin picking thread.
What if it could be a paid gig? Each time you report something that is legitimately BS, you get paid a small amout of btc. Kinda like a faucet.
But not everyone can do this, maybe a select group of people who are not biased against signature renting but do not have paid signature spots themselves.

Makes sense?

theymos has previously released data about reporting, including a leaderboard of top reporters, but that was a long time ago and I haven't seen any recent numbers. It isn't possible to get any stats on that unless theymos makes it public.


Therein lies the root of what makes this forum so frustrating.

That could be because most of the members also don't care about reporting these kind of posts (as long as there's nothing they can gain when they report something e.g. some extra activity points or anything else....) I don't know how many members report spam posts, but I think it's less than a 100, but if someone has statistics about it, I'm really interested...
The other thing can be that most of the members (spammers, but not bots) don't really read back when they post something, (because it's so obvious to spot these bots(?) when they copy something from a few posts above...) so they don't realize that bots are copypasteing parts of other posts...

I think those ones might be bots. Copying from the same thread is their way of making it on-topic. They don't seem to realise that anyone who is following the thread and reading will spot it instantly.

Well let's be realistic, all those videos like "how to earn on this website", "How to rank up",etc... are a normal thing once the website get's popular enough. Nothing new at all.

That's why we have merit now.

Did you report at least 200 garbage and off topic posts on Bitcoin discussion section? did you PM hilariousandco to ask for a reconsideration on your negative trust? why did you leave positive trust for The Pharmacist without any reference? why do you have positive trust for a trade without any reference? I wouldn't remove the red tag from you if I were him.


Each report alone would take you 5-10 seconds to click on the report and write a word  and then click on send. what about the time you are spending on reading the posts?


Is prostitution one of those 1099 forms of income in the US? lol.

Maybe he means it's his income form...    Like a 1099 form for misc income in the US!!   
 

"bitcoin gold is very good cryptocurrencies i love it"
What a moron 

I've been talking about it for a long time. The wave of illiterate spammers from Indonesia and Pakistan is overwhelming. The merit system has made it harder for them, but it's nothing more than trench that is slowing them down, weeding out some of the spammers, but the more persistent ones remain. The idiot from the video can't even write bitcointalk right and calls it a "form"

That's really true, don't rush for the bad posts, they'll show up anyway...
My personal favourites are when newbies (or jr.members) copy 2 sentences from an earlier post from the same page of the topic... If they made the effort to search for a similar topics and copy something from the posts found there, it would be much difficult to spot them, but they simply don't care...

Yes you are right some members mostly the new ones don't care about policies or proper forum etiquette as all they care about is on what is making money for them inside the forum and like people who only care for themselves is they are exploiting it and they are even proud of it as discussed and shown in this thread (which you also replied), their thirst for earning is making the forum look bad overall.

Good luck with getting up votes in SteemIt although members can up vote once every article, it seemed like they are only up voting those who have high reputation as they are the ones maximizing your up vote power (as your up votes also give you Steem). Also a lot of factors come into play from your title construction to what topic are you putting your post at, but overall having a high reputation is one that gives you more up votes by default.

This highlights one of the problems. Different platforms have different perceptions and rules on the promotion of your posts and ranking, I posted an entry about the Bitcoin merit system on Steemit - https://steemit.com/bitcointalk/@upr8/clarification-of-the-bitcoin-talk-merit-system , but it has had few views as I'm pretty new, and I haven't got my head round their ranking system yet. I've had several suggestions that I need to pay $100 or so to get some upvotes so that I can earn $1,000, but that makes it sound like a ponzi. I've started a small group so that we can upvote each other on Steemit, and this seems to be the approved method. Obviously this is comletely the opposite of the policy here on Bitcoin Talk. I'm sure many new members don't understand the radical difference between the two platforms.

I've decided to use upr8.com to help members to understand the different policies, but so far I have only decided on the template, so I haven't created any content yet. I'll post a link when I have something meaningful on the site.