Hello world.
Have been away for lon and following HellFish advice I'm starting a selfmod thread. Feel free to say whatever you want
as long as it's not trolling.
So why starting this thread? Because there is this sentence I hear and read a lot that always triggers me a bit. Right wing people mockingly saying that you have to be a complete retard to be a socialist and that the argument
"it's not real communism" is stupid. This argument is just saying that USSR or whatever "communist" country failure isn't a proof of communism failure because... Well
it wasn't real communism.
And this argument is...
Perfectly valid though a bit
short-sighted.
I dare anyone to give an example of a
real communism state in our world, present or past. There are none.
There is this
HUGE MISTAKE made by tons of people who believe that communism = no private property =
everything belongs to the state. Which is a very brutal and stupid interpretation of communism manifest. Communism doesn't mean everything belongs to the state but everything is owned by the people. In particular for Marxists (which are the most common kind of communists) it's not that there should be no private property but that anything being used in the economy (the means of production) should belong to the workers using them. (Which means very VERY limited private property because depending on interpretation pretty much anything can be considered being part of the economy)
But let's simplify all this by saying that, in communism, the means of production are supposed to belong to
the people.The people.
Not the state,
the people. That's where lies the "it's not real communism".
Because what are exactly countries like Venezuela or USSR or Cuba or North Korea? They're countries where state is all powerfull, meaning the leaders are all powerfull. What do you call such countries?
Dictatorships. And it doesn't matter if the dictatorship calls itself communist or islamic or democratic or whatever. A
dictatorship is just a
dictatorship, a country where the people are oppressed by a very small group having the power. It's not communism at all! It's the opposite of communism.
So no
it wasn't real communism. But why is it a short-sighted answer? Well because it seems that every time a country adopts communism it falls immediately into a dictatorship. So even if those countries aren't communist, if every country trying to adopt communism falls into dictatorship 2 days later... Well it means that even if there is a slight difference,
communism leads to dictatorship.
And that's right. At least that WAS right. Communism means that the people own and control everything equally, but that wasn't possible, what was used was that people were represented by a government THEN this government controls everything (hence the dictatorship).
But maybe we have an alternative solution now. Maybe we can do things differently... What if we didn't use the government to control things? What if we did it ourselves directly? With our technologies we no longer have a use for representative politics. Direct democracy is completely possible.
So I can't say anything for sure of course, but it seems to me that we have new possibility. Applying the new technologies (including blockchains) to create a country where everything is directly controlled by the people, which would be real communism this time.
EDIT: Since TECSHARE and I have don't have the same definition of trolling I removed his posts from the thread but he ahd the good idea to post them on another one. You can find our arguments there
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reee-its-not-real-communism-or-why-socialism-can-still-be-an-answer-5076948 if you're interested
