Topic: I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2) - page 10. (Read 12884 times)

To be honest, I was very surprised by this incident and did not expect this to happen to you when you handled 2 mixer campaigns with a large total escrow fund. kill yourself? and you shouldn't do that, your 2 children really need you. I'm curious about what actually happened and how the hacker could infiltrate your wallet!


your intention is very good to return the funds slowly, and I see that the DT team only marks you with neutral feedback, this is a very valuable experience for all campaign managers, and I wish you good luck.

We don't know if OP is telling the truth or not, but we live in a dangerous time where even the most secure CEX has been hacked; if CEX that spend millions of dollars on security can be hacked, then OP is a piece of cake. I'd argue that because the OP has pledged to repay the funds and his account is the most important asset to make that happen, raising flags would cause him more harm and shit than he already is.

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OP shit happens but listen I don't agree or disagree with your explanation, but pay attention. SUCIDE is not an option; put your shit up and come up with a solution. Best wishes. Don't give up; you've got this..

Thank you.

I totally agree. I'm not* sure if this is worth it but I've held campaign funds equivalent to what was lost today (mostly stablecoins like USDT, USDC) and I have never even think of taking just 1 cent out it. All the funds I escrowed were distributed to all the campaign participants.

Thanks for the tips. Yes, I plan on wiping my system and installing new OS, new programs. It's a pain in the @ss to go through all this but it is a necessary security measure. It just suck that I had to learn this the hard way.

I got a motorcyle that I bought 2 years ago which took me also 2 years of pain staking saving just to buy it, I'm gonna sell it so at least I can repay some of the stolen funds. I will update this thread about it very soon.

After seeing his reputation I don't think he is making any story. Because I do, his reputation will be more than this five thousand dollars. My condolences to julerz12 for this incident. I hope you will not despair and will continue to try to recover. And I think such mistakes will not happen again to you and I think people learn from mistakes Like you already got a big lesson from this incident. And I appreciate your decision to repay the fund.
And I think it is better not to escrow such a large fund if you don't have such a device to protect. It is best to refill the wallet every week.

I appreciate your generosity

You really have noble morals, and it is fortunate that we got to know your project through the signature campaign, and I appreciate your generosity you will pay the participants in the [banned mixer] signature campaign for the first week tomorrow. I hope that Julerz will do his best to return the funds to you, even if it is "little" as you mentioned, but it is your right and your money, I feel bad for what happened and I hope you will give the BM time to collect the money that was hacked and return it to you as soon as possible.

Accept my full respect and appreciation for you  

I am sorry to hear that, man. This is the dark side of the internet.
Don't get broken. Trust in yourself. Try to recover it and pay them back. Good luck.

Agreed, no money in the world is worth of destroying your life. I understand that in some countries and for some people that 5K is a lot of money, it is, but it's not the end of the world. If you took the money for yourself (not saying you did) you must think about if it's worth it. Sure, 5K is a year of salary in the PH but taking other people's hard earn money is something that morality and for some even religious just wrong no matter the size. It won't give you any satisfaction, and it won't make your life easier.

Saying that, the best steps to take is change every password on any platform you have, install a good virus installer (contact me I would love to provide you with a coupon code for free).

What I personally would do. Disconnect my pc from the internet. Copy any important files (NO PROGRAMS) to a hard drive. Complete reset your pc or even better reinstall windows from scratch.
Only use a Ledger for crypto or even better use Bitgo.

And do your best to make your clients whole, be honest with them how you can repay the damage. Don't make any promised you can't keep, be straight forward, that is the best way to go.

I want to end my message by saying it again: No money in the world is worth of destroying your life, keep your head up because I'm sure that there are a lot of people loving you and willing to help you.

Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out.

Electrum is ledger compatible.
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005161925-Set-up-and-use-Electrum?docs=true
I do not believe that julerz12 is a liar, but if, under the terms of the agreement, he was responsible for the deposit, then he must pay damages.

If someone like this can get hack then I don't understand why some people would think the OP made it up to ruined the rep he has build for years.

I think the only evidence to provide in situations like this is the wallet which the fund was held. I don't know why someone would think the evidence is not enough.
This is really an unfortunate situation and I sincerely hope the good members of this forum would give the OP the opportunity to redeem his rep back by paying for the lost funds.

I just want to say tagging OP red and expect him to pay for lost funds is not going to be easy on him assuming this is his major source where he will gets the most income to pay back.

@julerz12, what happen to you sucks but you should not let it demotivate you, and take comfort from @Hhampuz post, it make a lot of sense. Good luck.

I’m very sorry to hear what happened for you and i hope you can refund that money for the owners, in the meanwhile i will say that i truly believe what you said for many reasons. I have been in few campaigns you managed and you where always helpful and trustworthy what happened now will really hurt your reputation unfortunately no matter what, the reason i believe that you truly got hacked is you will earn better money than that if you continue managing campaigns for couples months and without losing customers.
It’s a lesson everyone should learn about where to put and save their assets especially important ones. Lately we have seen enough scams on exchanges

That's IMO the best decision. And as you see you'll even meet support from other forum users on that way. May be someone of reputable even will help with escrowing funds for some of your new campaigns with which you'll get an opportunity to earn money both for your family and repaying lost. I hope and wish all will go better way for you!

This could be some bot accounts, because I don't think reasonable Human Being would just came up posting POA without even reading the contents of the messages.

Gosh! Come on man. Don't get suicidal, no matter what the situation is. That won't solve anything, instead it will exacerbate the situation for those who care about you. I'm a father too and I can understand this pain of one losing their source of income. Yes, the hurtful words will come in torrents as this is ongoing but you've to grow a thick skin at a time like this by finding a way out. That way out should be centred on repaying the debts to both companies. Nothing else can be a better strategy. We all make mistakes and mistakes they say is a natural human flaw in all.

You just learned a very expensive lesson @julerz12

The first thing you should do is find out how you got hacked, with that you can at least prove that you didn't steal the money, I'm not saying you did, but having evidence is better than just your words. also so you can protect yourself in the future.
And as many other members said, you can still try and join other signature campaigns if you work hard for a year you can pay the 5k back, an average of $100 per week for 52 weeks is $5200.

Easier to delete spam.
Newbies follow every thread I post and most of the time just automatically post Proof of Authentication posts without even knowing the contents of the thread.

I sincerely apologize. I'm lost for words.

Yes, It was my own stupidity that this happened.

There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

I work alone, no one else is allowed to touch my PC, not even my kids.
I don't have those apps. I only have zoom and telegram/discord for communications with project teams.

I know. Again, it was my mistake for not using my hardware wallet. I choose convenience rather than security.

I fully understand and I accept the consequences wholeheartedly.

Yomix team was not told I'm holding the funds in electrum. They never asked, I guess they just trusted me upfront for which I am truly heartbroken that I have failed them.

Not that I know of. No one is even allowed in my room where I keep my PC. Not even my kids can touch it.

I plan on doing so. I know it will be a very long and hard road to overcome but I will most definitely try.

Again, I'm not planning on leaving this forum. I earn my living here (which is a shitty way of telling, I have no real job). My whole family depends on me and I would most definitely not let them down.

I have already suggested this to both project teams and by the looks of it, they have no plans of granting me this request, and rightfully so.

Thank you. I plan on working on a way to refund the stolen funds. It might take a while though as I have no other source of income other than bounty management.

Yes. I am using an outdated version which if I remember correctly, I just downloaded on December 2022. Either I downloaded a corrupted one or again, my entire system got hacked.

Thanks. That's entirely it. A stupid mistake. I got careless and got negligent with the fund's security.

Thanks. It's not really the amount that I'm totally heartbroken with but the impact this event will have on my family and me.
Please update us on your findings.

Yes, I plan on doing so.

I am currently also holding funds to Moonbet.io (an altcoin campaign), those tokens are safe since they are on my ledger but all the BTC funds from my Electrum wallet for Coinomize and YoMix campaigns were all drained.

This is very hard to say because I believe no one is perfect, have you come to imagine if this happened to any other reputable campaign manager here what could be our reaction?
Do we still call it a formulations or what?
Yes, this is very disappointing because you can' predicts what would happened in the next few minutes, because I could remembered vividly a member here complained of Electrum hack due to version update.

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Then boiled down @op, $5000 is not that a peanuts in conversion to my local currency, I have heard some managers not accepting much funds from their clients due to the risk involved in holding project funds, there are lots of risk involve while doing that. Although I have know you for a very long time as good manager in this forum but you won't have just tarnished your reputations. Now how would the project owners feels or how would your fellow members feels from their own perspectives towards this issues presently.
And if i could asked, how long do you think this could take you to clear it up if they may give you some grace to join any other sig campaign to pay gradually or take a loan physically to clear them up and gradually pay back while working in the forum. Try as much as possible to gain back your trust by paying back because I believe taking a leave off from here wouldn't be the right decision but to prove your innocent just accept the blame and pay them back it would take you about 1 years or thereafter but I believe taking loan would be the best idea to regain back your trust.

Now to everyone here this is just an incident it may happened to you and it can as well happened to me, lets not forget the fact that wallet hacking is inevitable, this could happen to you via by making payment to wrong address or exchange hack or possibly system got corrupted, at that situation you would be devastated not knowing what to do at the right. At this point I would suggest @op to seat back and take a rethink of what best to do before furthering ahead by reading every single comment here otherwise, he may got fainted with some kind of words he may found here.

I am very sorry bro please take heart, sometimes this is what we see in life.

You can prevent this by reaching out and:

- apologising
- expressing your willingness to repay of what got stolen
- coming up with repayment plan

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Shit happens, even one of the most prominent bitcoin devs, LukeJr got hacked recently and lost ~$3 mil worth of btc
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-developer-lukedashjrs-wallet-was-hacked-5432665

Come to think of it, I have a question, julerz12.

Why did you make the campaign thread a self-moderated one?

I don't recall any other, apart from those of Royse777, who had good reasons, but you apparently didn't.